OK, B-Side list with remixes, mixes and lives ommited. These are the
British singles. I dunno the others. There are singles missing, but
that's cos they don't contain any B-Side originals.
I hope this is read-able on your news prog :).
________________________________________________________________________
B-SIDES | SINGLES
~~~~~~~ | ~~~~~~~
________________________________|_______________________________________
We Gonna Rock |
Everybody In The Place | What Evil Lurks (EP)
Android |
________________________________|_______________________________________
Pandemonium |
Your Love (original excursion) | Charly
________________________________|_______________________________________
Crazy Man |
G-Force | Everybody In The Place (fg rmx)
________________________________|_______________________________________
We Are The Ruffest | Wind It Up (rewound)
________________________________|_______________________________________
Rhythm Of Life |
Full Throtle | One Love
________________________________|_______________________________________
Scienide | Poison
________________________________|_______________________________________
Molotov Bitch | Firestarter
________________________________|_______________________________________
The Trick | Breathe
________________________________|_______________________________________
No Man Army | Smack My Bitch Up
________________________________|_______________________________________
______________________________________
RAN (R.Nicol) EMINENT UK
Eminent @ hyperspeed . demon . co . uk
______________________________________
It came out like this - pretty readable(ish) :) Thanks for your help
- DH
Groan. Thanks Pete. Knew I could rely on you... :O)
> >Is it /possible/ to
> >compile one if there isn't? I'm not too interested in remixes and live
> >performances (they all sound like Keith screaming "RHYTHM RESPONSE" to me
> >:) ), so that narrows it down a bit.
> >I'm pretty sure this isn't on the FAQ, but I'll double check.... nope.
>
> Er, check the FAQ... (don't pretend to check the FAQ)
Its not in the alt.books.robert-rankin FAQ - that was the one /I/ was
checking....
No flames pls, I won't reply to any more.
>>Is it /possible/ to
>>compile one if there isn't? I'm not too interested in remixes and live
>>performances (they all sound like Keith screaming "RHYTHM RESPONSE" to me
>>:) ), so that narrows it down a bit.
>>I'm pretty sure this isn't on the FAQ, but I'll double check.... nope.
>
>Er, check the FAQ... (don't pretend to check the FAQ)
Or read RAN's post for an immediate answer and then read the FAQ.
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>Does anyone have a complete list of Prodge B sides?
FAQ.
>Is it /possible/ to
>compile one if there isn't? I'm not too interested in remixes and live
>performances (they all sound like Keith screaming "RHYTHM RESPONSE" to me
>:) ), so that narrows it down a bit.
>I'm pretty sure this isn't on the FAQ, but I'll double check.... nope.
Er, check the FAQ... (don't pretend to check the FAQ)
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The FAQ's all very well, but it didn't tell me anything I didn't already
know about the B sides. I wondered if there were any rarer ones that
/weren't/ in the FAQ.
By the way, is that Benny Blanco (I think thats what its called) mix thing a
"proper" Prodigy track? If so, that's one B side, at least, thats not on the
FAQ....
DH
>>>I'm pretty sure this isn't on the FAQ, but I'll double check.... nope.
>>Er, check the FAQ... (don't pretend to check the FAQ)
>Or read RAN's post for an immediate answer and then read the FAQ.
Er, read RAN's post for incomplete answers?
(Just how many were missing? I lost count!)
Proof that a FAQ pointer was needed in the first place.
That's just a live track. Never released. In b-side form or any other
form.
>> >Does anyone have a complete list of Prodge B sides?
>> FAQ.
>Groan. Thanks Pete. Knew I could rely on you... :O)
Yes, for a COMPLETE list of B-sides on Prodigy singles, you certainly
could. No-one else in this thread did such a thing.
This is why I point people towards the Prodigy FAQ - to save the
bother of someone else writing incomplete answers.
>> >Is it /possible/ to
>> >compile one if there isn't? I'm not too interested in remixes and live
>> >performances (they all sound like Keith screaming "RHYTHM RESPONSE" to me
>> >:) ), so that narrows it down a bit.
>> >I'm pretty sure this isn't on the FAQ, but I'll double check.... nope.
>> Er, check the FAQ... (don't pretend to check the FAQ)
>Its not in the alt.books.robert-rankin FAQ - that was the one /I/ was
>checking....
Very clever.
>>>>I'm pretty sure this isn't on the FAQ, but I'll double check.... nope.
>>>Er, check the FAQ... (don't pretend to check the FAQ)
>>Or read RAN's post for an immediate answer and then read the FAQ.
>
>Er, read RAN's post for incomplete answers?
>(Just how many were missing? I lost count!)
>
>Proof that a FAQ pointer was needed in the first place.
I gave an FAQ pointer. The problem about the FAQ is it doesn't
specifially mention the b sides... just the tracks on the record.
I mentioned both to him for the fact that RAN's list may be
incomplete. You can calm down now.
>Proof that a FAQ pointer was needed in the first place.
I did do it from memory. I'm trying to think what I've missed, but the
only things I can think you may mean are:
Other mixes/remixes of the A side
Other mixes/remixes of an Album track and
Live recordings
which he asked to be ommited.
I think I spelt Throttle wrong, though.
Rip Up The Sound System Everybody In The Place (fs rmx)
(vinyl only)
Forgot that one. I think that's it.
>> Or read RAN's post for an immediate answer and then read the FAQ.
>The FAQ's all very well, but it didn't tell me anything I didn't already
>know about the B sides.
In that case, why did you ask for a list of B-sides?
>I wondered if there were any rarer ones that
>/weren't/ in the FAQ.
Why didn't you ask for that then?
>By the way, is that Benny Blanco (I think thats what its called) mix thing a
>"proper" Prodigy track?
It's a live Prodigy track that does exist. I'm not sure what
"proper"ness you're looking for.
>If so, that's one B side, at least, thats not on the FAQ....
It's not a b-side, or anything. It's not on any official Prodigy
record at all.
>>Proof that a FAQ pointer was needed in the first place.
>I gave an FAQ pointer. The problem about the FAQ is it doesn't
>specifially mention the b sides... just the tracks on the record.
You can work out what the B-sides are, if you have common-sense...
>I mentioned both to him for the fact that RAN's list may be
>incomplete.
So RAN should have just given him a FAQ pointer.
>You can calm down now.
So can you.
>Sorry,
>Rip Up The Sound System Everybody In The Place (fs rmx)
> (vinyl only)
>Forgot that one. I think that's it.
Far from it!
You missed many more.
(BTW - Rip Up The Sound System has been out on CD)
Tell us how many he missed. Go on, post a list of all the B-sides.
According to your own mother-fucking FAQ, the B-sides are:
We Gonna Rock
Android
Everybody in the Place
Pandemonium
Your Love
G-Force
Crazy Man
Rip Up the Sound System
We Are the Ruffest
Rythm of Life
Full Throttle
Scienide
The Trick
RAN has covered all these! You are wrong!
> (BTW - Rip Up The Sound System has been out on CD)
Great way to defend your original point.
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Fuck all....
>Far from it!
>
>You missed many more.
>
>(BTW - Rip Up The Sound System has been out on CD)
Well it's not on mine. I got the British copy. Dunno if there was a
re-print or something.
Oh for god sake all I did was answer the fucking question.
>>Far from it!
>>You missed many more.
I retract this statement, and apologize for making it. You missed only
one, as far as I can see.
>>(BTW - Rip Up The Sound System has been out on CD)
>Well it's not on mine. I got the British copy.
Same here, it's not on mine either.
>Dunno if there was a re-print or something.
Story is...
XL brought out a 5-track version of EITP (as listed in the FAQ) on CD,
they then realised that it may not be illegible for the charts, IIRC,
so they chopped 'Rip Up...' from it.
So these early EITP CDs are very rare and coveted!
Cheers. Pete's right though. I don't know how or why, but somehow he's
always 'right'. Or maybe he just says he is to look big.
Well thats basically all you have to do in here anymore or respond to start a
flame war.. You get 20 posts on how you should have read the FAQ, then another
20 posts on how the FAQ is Fucked up..
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> >> >Does anyone have a complete list of Prodge B sides?
> >> FAQ.
> >Groan. Thanks Pete. Knew I could rely on you... :O)
>
> Yes, for a COMPLETE list of B-sides on Prodigy singles, you certainly
> could. No-one else in this thread did such a thing.
OK then. Fire away. All the B Sides, and the demo trax - basically
everything that's not Live, or a remix.
> This is why I point people towards the Prodigy FAQ - to save the
> bother of someone else writing incomplete answers.
> >> >Is it /possible/ to
> >> >compile one if there isn't? I'm not too interested in remixes and live
> >> >performances (they all sound like Keith screaming "RHYTHM RESPONSE" to
me
> >> >:) ), so that narrows it down a bit.
> >> >I'm pretty sure this isn't on the FAQ, but I'll double check.... nope.
> >> Er, check the FAQ... (don't pretend to check the FAQ)
> >Its not in the alt.books.robert-rankin FAQ - that was the one /I/ was
> >checking....
> Very clever.
Sarcasm is so hard to detect on the net. Are you serious?
Being by the Prodigy
> >If so, that's one B side, at least, thats not on the FAQ....
>
> It's not a b-side, or anything. It's not on any official Prodigy
> record at all.
OK. How many other of these tracks are there? Or at least, give me a list of
some of them :)
>> >By the way, is that Benny Blanco (I think thats what its called) mix
>thing a
>> >"proper" Prodigy track?
>> It's a live Prodigy track that does exist. I'm not sure what
>> "proper"ness you're looking for.
>Being by the Prodigy
Benny Blanco is indeed by the Prodigy.
>> >If so, that's one B side, at least, thats not on the FAQ....
>> It's not a b-side, or anything. It's not on any official Prodigy
>> record at all.
>OK. How many other of these tracks are there?
These live-only tracks? Absolutely loads! Probably around 20 of these
little gems.
>Or at least, give me a list of
>some of them :)
Right, here's an incomplete list. Some names used aren't neccessarily
the 'official' names (usually because there are no official names for
them!):
Benny Blanco
Benny Blanco (Remix)
Break And Enter (punk version)
Break And Enter (Vocal mix)
Break And Enter (metal version)
Brown
Claustrophobic Sting (beta version)
Diesel Power (without verses)
Ghost Town
Now Hear Dis
Ride The Rhythm
Rock N Roll
Rock N Roll (98 version)
Serial Thrilla (beta version)
Speedway (breakbeat version)
SMBU (beta version)
Voodoo People (Prodigy Remix of Chemical Brothers Remix)
Oh no prblem, thank you BTW. Is this one I missed 'Rip' or are you
talking about GOA? Cos GOA's a mix of the Heat. That was my
justification for leaving it out.
>Same here, it's not on mine either.
>Story is...
>XL brought out a 5-track version of EITP (as listed in the FAQ) on CD,
>they then realised that it may not be illegible for the charts, IIRC,
>so they chopped 'Rip Up...' from it.
>So these early EITP CDs are very rare and coveted!
How come America could have 8 tracks to a single or something?
Exactly. And I didn't even try to take the piss out of PT for doing the
"read the FAQ" thing. Thanks RAN for not referring me to the FAQ anyway, but
I'd better remember that in future if I want Prodigy info I can't ask the NG
for it and get away without starting a flame war.
- DH
Different (better in this case) laws.
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Thanks Pete. This is helpful :)
>>I retract this statement, and apologize for making it. You missed only
>>one, as far as I can see.
>Oh no prblem, thank you BTW.
Thank you for accepting it.
>Is this one I missed 'Rip' or are you
>talking about GOA?
I was just on about 'Rip...'.
>Cos GOA's a mix of the Heat. That was my
>justification for leaving it out.
Yeah, a good point. It's titled in a way that could fool someone into
thinking it's a new song rather than just a new remix of an existing
song (a la Rat Poison, and Hyperspeed).
>>Same here, it's not on mine either.
>>Story is...
>>XL brought out a 5-track version of EITP (as listed in the FAQ) on CD,
>>they then realised that it may not be illegible for the charts, IIRC,
>>so they chopped 'Rip Up...' from it.
>>So these early EITP CDs are very rare and coveted!
>How come America could have 8 tracks to a single or something?
One of the good things about America is that they don't have that
stupid chart rule about "You can only have x number of tracks lasting
no longer than y minutes in total".
This is why you get usually good value when you pick up on a US import
in your local HMV/Tower/whatever.
(Mind you, the way America's Billboard charts are compiled is very
dodgy indeed. I would call it complete fixing.)
More 'foreign' music trivia: The reason why Japanese versions of
albums have so many tracks (usually existing b-sides) tacked onto them
(or on a CD2!), is because the Japanese people have later release
dates, so the Japanese labels make sure the Japanese version is really
cool value so that 1) the fans don't buy the non-japanese versions 2)
to make up for being 'late' with it.
I know that Liam had indeed made this but chose not to release because
of Tricky's version, so wouldn't this count as not being a 'live-only'
track, even though it only made the light of day at Reading 98?
BTW, what happened about The Eton Rifles?
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>Jus' thought - how about Liam's remix of Casanova? Does that count as a
>Prodge track?
Well, yeah. And that's not just the only remix he did for a
band-that-isn't-Prodigy - there's around 10 (or so) more, see the FAQ.
>Someone should get all of these down and try to get them MP3'd.
They already are.
I was intending to have them(*) linked from EN's files area pages...
but that can't happen for certain reasons.
(* = only commercially unavailable ones of course)
>There's
>practically no other way of most people being able to get hold of them.
Casanova's still around in a few record shops, and the remixes he did
for Front 242 resurfaced on a special Front 242 compilation album
which is still out.
Jesus Jones and Method Man have also re-issued Prodigy remixes as
b-sides on recent singles.
Shame we can't say the same for all those unreleased live tracks. Or can
we......?
> I was intending to have them(*) linked from EN's files area pages...
> but that can't happen for certain reasons.
I originally thought he meant the live unreleased tracks. If you're
looking for mp3z of the remixes, then check out http://travel.to/prodigy
(Is there anything it can't do? j/k)
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Speaking of unreleased live tracks:
http://www.isk.kth.se/~id96_kko/prodigy.htm
Hey, great. BTW, didn't mean to fly off the handle.
> How come America could have 8 tracks to a single or something?
How come there are such restricting laws on UK singles, anyway?
</Hangs head in ignorance/>
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Yeah but Rat Poison sounds completely different to Poison though, so I
personally don't really think of it as a remix. Are there lots of trax like
this?
>> >Someone should get all of these down and try to get them MP3'd.
>> They already are.
>Shame we can't say the same for all those unreleased live tracks. Or can
>we......?
I've got lots of the unreleased tracks, from my collection of around
25 different Prodigy live gigs on tape. All the ones I mentioned in
this thread are ones I have (except for the alternative version of
Benny Blanco).
>In article <928961570.18501.0...@news.demon.co.uk>,
> see-my-sig-for-...@nospam.demon.co.uk (The Real Thing :
>prodge.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>> Ghost Town
>I know that Liam had indeed made this but chose not to release because
>of Tricky's version, so wouldn't this count as not being a 'live-only'
>track, even though it only made the light of day at Reading 98?
Indeed, the only ways you can get hold of it is:
1) From any live bootleg of Reading 98, which gives you a live only
version.
2) MP3 of above.
3) Break into Liam's studio, which will get you the studio version!
>BTW, what happened about The Eton Rifles?
IIRC, the Jam Tribute thing should be coming out this year, and the
only names I hear about it when it's mentioned on the radio is Oasis
and The Beastie Boys. Looks like Prodigy won't be doing anything for
it after all.
Cool. Meet you there, 2 AM on Saturday. :)
>> How come America could have 8 tracks to a single or something?
>How come there are such restricting laws on UK singles, anyway?
It's not a 'law', but a rule enforced by UK Official Top 40 compilers
Gallup/CIN.
"Arthur Brown" told me that the move to restrict UK singles to 3
tracks and 20 mins was put forward by various managers and promotors
of purely commercial bands (ie: boy bands like Boyzone and the like),
as they found that their poor pretty little darlings were finding it
hard to actually go and put some effort into coming up with some
b-sides, unlike bands that have actual talent.
The CIN bowed to this pressure, and it was passed. :(
Anyone in this coutry can go and release a single with 4 or more
tracks on them if they like. But don't expect to see a chart placing
for it!
(The Propellerheads recently deliberately issued a 4-track single.)
The last Prodigy single (SMBU) was issued before the new 3-track rules
came into force.
Janus Stark's last single (released some months ago) only had 3 tracks
on it. :(
We could organise a petition or something...
>> Yeah, a good point. It's titled in a way that could fool someone into
>> thinking it's a new song rather than just a new remix of an existing
>> song (a la Rat Poison, and Hyperspeed).
>Yeah but Rat Poison sounds completely different to Poison though,
Er, not to me...
>so I
>personally don't really think of it as a remix.
Weeell, it is a remix. Very heavily changed, yeah.
>Are there lots of trax like this?
Here's some that have been heavily remixed by Liam, IMO:
EVERYBODY IN THE PLACE
Original Version > 155 and Rising
YOUR LOVE
Original Version > Remix
DIESEL POWER
Original Version > Dirtchamber Remix
>> The CIN bowed to this pressure, and it was passed. :(
>We could organise a petition or something...
EN (and some music magazines) thought of doing that, but it would be
ineffective. It's covered in last year's EN News somewhere.
Oh. How do I subscribe to that? I notice it comes through the newsgroup.
Subscribe to the mailing list by sending a blank email to:
en_...@hotmail.com with the Subject reading: Subscribe (your e-mail
address)
For example
recepient: en_...@hotmail.com
Subject: Jo...@doe.com
There! :)
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>> 3) Break into Liam's studio, which will get you the studio version!
>Cool. Meet you there, 2 AM on Saturday. :)
While you're there, replace his old skool hip-hop vinyls for some
albums by Black Lace, Chas N Dave, Barron Knights and Bay City
Rollers.
Should be a laugh when he does his set at Gatecrasher :)
>Well, yeah. And that's not just the only remix he did for a
>band-that-isn't-Prodigy - there's around 10 (or so) more, see the FAQ.
Baby D? They're cool. Or were. They weren't that different.
But our "Woo Haa; Got you all in Check" Single had 6 or 8 tracks, and
that got in the charts.