So. What if there's no music club in 2003?
Gil Noble's hairline
different, no? Only a handful of folks are willing to admit they'll
re-sign if the rest of the year turns out as expected. Other than the
unfortunates still waiting for their CD's to arrive, there shouldn't be
a lot of bitching if Prince pulls the plug on Dec. 31st.
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Billy
calendar year starting with the day they allowed people to start signing up,
but it was mentioned at the start, that this year, there wouldn't be no
"extentions" running into the following year if you joined late, you just
get all the CD's that were (supposed) originally promised, and you have the
benefits of purchasing members only seating during the remainder of your
time.
That's a benefit and plus of waiting to join the club this year. I didn't
have the $100 to piss away when renewal came along, so I figured I'd wait
until they started sending out the CD's, then when he started doing shows
and I saw the outrageous prices I felt they were charging (boy, I'd like to
know how the American "Fams" feel now, that he's doing better setlists for
pretty much alot cheaper seating than what they had to pay) I decided I'd
pass on any shows at the prices, since they had gone up pretty much by 50%
more than the prior tour. And I knew I had no intentions of flying to MPLS
for the Celebration, as I'd rather spend my vacation time with my Wife &
Family. So then they decide to "HOLD" any future shipments of CD's to new
members who joined late after they started sending out the "One Nite Alone"
CD until the next CD(s) were released. Now with the rumors circulating that
the new Live 3 CD set that is scheduled for public release towards the end
of November will be the fulfillment, I'm definitely holding out any plans to
join up for this year, unless the rumors were false, and that this will only
count as one CD, and 2 more will follow.
But then again, depending on how many "One Nite Alone" CD's were pressed, it
won't totally surprise me to see them go up for sale in the retail section
along side the other "Members Only Exclusive" of the "Rave In2 The Joy
Fantastic" CD that is now being sold in the retail section, and was up for
sale last year at the Celebration, and from what I heard, several people who
were not members last year received the CD as a bonus when they signed up
this year.
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PurpleMakaveli
> there shouldn't be
>a lot of bitching if Prince pulls the plug on Dec. 31st.
My guess/opinions............
Prince had us chanting "join the club!!" 2 the non members last Saturday
evening, after asking people upstairs if they had computers...."d'yall have
computers?"
So i assume based on that the club will continue...i was shocked to see so many
members in England...so lets say he has 1500 members X £100 - $150,000 from
England...so lets estimate 1000 members come to see the show (some c him
2,3,4,maybe 5 times) and bring a guest 2000 X 100 = $200,000
200,000 + 150,000 = $350,000 from his members in England ok maybe a tad more i
doubt less. Imagine the fanbase worldwide..NPGMC is a gold mine. So n e way
England Tour can pay for the travel expenses,wages of the band members, hotels,
free aftershows/partys for the European tour and also the Japanese Tour, the
rest? P 4 Profit. NPGMC The guy is smart and u don't need me 2 tell u that!
I would Join again because i believe its worth it..Prince made his members feel
more like friends that consumers or fanatics, 4 example i was dancing on stage
standing next to Prince while he was playing piano, i saw him play drums, shit
what more does a fan need? that was impressive...i tell ya
PurplePeace2ya
HOBBS47
>(boy, I'd like to
>know how the American "Fams" feel now, that he's doing better setlists for
>pretty much alot cheaper seating than what they had to pay)
still worth every penny dude,thats how good even the "basic/north american"show
was.and don`t call me "fam" asshole! ;)
someguy
>England Tour can pay for the travel expenses,wages of the band members,
>hotels,
>free aftershows/partys for the European tour and also the Japanese Tour
yeh maybe, depending on where he decides to stay.
Bart Van Hemelen
rumoured that purple...@aol.com (PurpleMakaveli) spake thus on the
subject of "Re: So. What if there's no music club in 2003?" in
alt.music.prince:
>So i assume based on that the club will continue...i was shocked to see so many
>members in England...so lets say he has 1500 members X £100 - $150,000 from
>England...so lets estimate 1000 members come to see the show (some c him
>2,3,4,maybe 5 times) and bring a guest 2000 X 100 = $200,000
>
>200,000 + 150,000 = $350,000 from his members in England ok maybe a tad more i
>doubt less. Imagine the fanbase worldwide..NPGMC is a gold mine.
You have no idea of the costs involved in a tour, especially when you
need to consider this is Prince.
>NPGMC The guy is smart and u don't need me 2 tell u that!
Let me run it and I'll promise you his current income will be peanuts
-- and fans would be happy. And with fans I'm not talking about the
handful of people that keep hanging on, I'm talking about a HUGE
fanbase.
>I would Join again because i believe its worth it..Prince made his members feel
>more like friends that consumers or fanatics
Bwahahaha.
>4 example i was dancing on stage
That's so lame. That's vegas. That's desperation.
--
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someguy
>-- and fans would be happy. And with fans I'm not talking about the
>handful of people that keep hanging on, I'm talking about a HUGE
>fanbase.
ok bart, i'm interested, tell me, what would you do.....?
how would you up his income from the NPGMC?
While keeping the fans happy.
also how would the "HUGE" fan base know whats going on?
JeePee
<tenthousa...@yahoo.com> decided to surprise everyone by saying:
>In the dim and distant past on 08 Oct 2002 22:31:06 GMT, it was
>rumoured that purple...@aol.com (PurpleMakaveli) spake thus on the
>subject of "Re: So. What if there's no music club in 2003?" in
>alt.music.prince:
>
>>So i assume based on that the club will continue...i was shocked to see so many
>>members in England...so lets say he has 1500 members X £100 - $150,000 from
>>England...so lets estimate 1000 members come to see the show (some c him
>>2,3,4,maybe 5 times) and bring a guest 2000 X 100 = $200,000
>>
>>200,000 + 150,000 = $350,000 from his members in England ok maybe a tad more i
>>doubt less. Imagine the fanbase worldwide..NPGMC is a gold mine.
>
>You have no idea of the costs involved in a tour, especially when you
>need to consider this is Prince.
>
>>NPGMC The guy is smart and u don't need me 2 tell u that!
>
>Let me run it and I'll promise you his current income will be peanuts
>-- and fans would be happy. And with fans I'm not talking about the
>handful of people that keep hanging on, I'm talking about a HUGE
>fanbase.
Somehow I think that all your ideas of how to run the club will be met
with a "no I don't think so" by Prince. After all he is the one giving
it the final approval. And the way it is run now is the way Prince
wants it, otherwise it would've been different.
--
JeePee
We have no info on that.
And we do not know who does.
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PurpleMakaveli
>You have no idea of the costs involved in a tour, especially when you
>need to consider this is Prince.
Give me more of a breakdown, i am interested to see how far out i am, since u
do have an idea (of the costs involved i mean)
Bart Van Hemelen
rumoured that jp.plu...@NOSPAMquicknet.nl (JeePee) spake thus on
the subject of "Re: So. What if there's no music club in 2003?" in
alt.music.prince:
>Somehow I think that all your ideas of how to run the club will be met
>with a "no I don't think so" by Prince.
Of course.
Bart Van Hemelen
rumoured that endor...@aol.comasif (someguy) spake thus on the
subject of "Re: So. What if there's no music club in 2003?" in
alt.music.prince:
>>Let me run it and I'll promise you his current income will be peanuts
I've already posted several of my ideas at the start of npgmc 2.0.
What I'd do different additional to that:
No $100 price tag, but say $10 / year.
No useless flash crap. No heavy graphics.
No lame princebonics.
True interactivity: trying to determine where to do concerts by asking
fan input and doing polls.
Sample downloads of upcoming releases.
Plenty of updates, for instance while he's on tour pictures from each
concert, if possible a short video excerpt,...
Useful information: track listing of upcoming albums including track
times, recording details, etc.
No lame boyband type crap for sale (underpants, candles,...) but MUSIC
stuff for affordable prices.
And I'd also want to release live CDs / DVDs without overdubs,
compilations of vault tracks, extended "ultimate" versions of classic
albums (additional mixes, alternate versions, outtakes,...).
Etc.
Bart Van Hemelen
rumoured that purple...@aol.com (PurpleMakaveli) spake thus on the
subject of "Re: So. What if there's no music club in 2003?" in
alt.music.prince:
>>You have no idea of the costs involved in a tour, especially when you
>>need to consider this is Prince.
>
>Give me more of a breakdown, i am interested to see how far out i am, since u
>do have an idea (of the costs involved i mean)
During the 1995 European tour, Prince regularly hired rooms in hotels
in three different cities (Rotterdam, Paris, London) just in case he
didn't feel like going to the city he was supposed to be in that
evening. Maybe he's gotten a bit saner about things like this on the
advice of his bookkeeper. But don't forget this is a guy who used to
do big tours backed by makor label money.
hippocrocamoose
"Bart Van Hemelen" <tenthousa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> What I'd do different additional to that:
> No $100 price tag, but say $10 / year.
interesting, but if he was to release any cd's thru the club, he'd end up
with a very narrow profit, if any.
> No useless flash crap. No heavy graphics.
i agree at the moment but with internet connetions getting faster i think
this will matter less and less
> No lame princebonics.
it's prince
> True interactivity: trying to determine where to do concerts by asking
> fan input and doing polls.
> Sample downloads of upcoming releases.
> Plenty of updates, for instance while he's on tour pictures from each
> concert, if possible a short video excerpt,...
i like this.
> Useful information: track listing of upcoming albums including track
> times, recording details, etc.
definately
> No lame boyband type crap for sale (underpants, candles,...) but MUSIC
> stuff for affordable prices.
i agree that theres alot of shit, but it's only there if you want it.... the
prices however should come down ALOT
> And I'd also want to release live CDs / DVDs without overdubs,
> compilations of vault tracks, extended "ultimate" versions of classic
> albums (additional mixes, alternate versions, outtakes,...).
thats all decided by prince tho, not the people running the club
RainbowBooty
U.S. fans. I say "most" because he did knock himself out doing extras
in New York and Los Angeles, but most of the cities in the U.S. didn't
get any special perks. The most obvious difference in how European and
U.S. fans are being treated is the price of the premium tickets, which
are priced lower overseas than the North American fans were charged.
He has also improved the setlists, he's being friendly to fans by
shaking hands with them, talking to them and letting people dance
onstage, which he DID NOT do at his U.S, shows. When I saw him early
in the ONA tour, he brought ushers from the theater staff onstage to
dance, but there was no big fan dance along.
HOBBS47
> letting people dance
>onstage, which he DID NOT do at his U.S, shows.
and i for one am glad about that,it`s a big waste of time.if i wanna see some
fat chick flop around in clothes way too small for her,i`ll go hit up Ms. Van
Hemelen :)
Bart Van Hemelen
rumoured that "hippocrocamoose"
<Ric...@townsley7.freeserve.co.ukfake> spake thus on the subject of
"Re: So. What if there's no music club in 2003?" in alt.music.prince:
>> What I'd do different additional to that:
>> No $100 price tag, but say $10 / year.
>
>interesting, but if he was to release any cd's thru the club, he'd end up
>with a very narrow profit, if any.
I started out with saying:
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In the dim and distant past on Sat, 12 Oct 2002 14:32:30 +0200, it was
rumoured that Bart Van Hemelen <tenthousa...@yahoo.com> spake
thus on the subject of "Re: So. What if there's no music club in
2003?" in alt.music.prince:
>I've already posted several of my ideas at the start of npgmc 2.0.
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So read those first. (Hint: they containt he word "amazon".)
The $10 fee is simply an "administrative cost" to become a member.
Which granst you access to exclusive stuff.
>> No useless flash crap. No heavy graphics.
>
>i agree at the moment but with internet connetions getting faster i think
>this will matter less and less
No, since the Flash crap on his site used to be so heavy it slowed
down my browser on my damn fine PC: it was so badly programmed it ate
up too much system resources. It's better now since they've thrown
away a lot of it.
>> No lame princebonics.
>
>it's prince
Well, no. It's fine for lyrics and for the occasional letter he
writes, but for a site that is his promotional tool towards the entire
world, it's not on.
>> No lame boyband type crap for sale (underpants, candles,...) but MUSIC
>> stuff for affordable prices.
>
>i agree that theres alot of shit, but it's only there if you want it....
It's in the way of music, and it's simply ridiculous. Prince's
audience is grown-ups (well, it used to be).
>> And I'd also want to release live CDs / DVDs without overdubs,
>> compilations of vault tracks, extended "ultimate" versions of classic
>> albums (additional mixes, alternate versions, outtakes,...).
>
>thats all decided by prince tho, not the people running the club
Well, yes and no. I wouldn't bother running the club unless I had
access to things like this.