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Ami .

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Read this article. Someone is working overtime to depict Manuela as the
person who revived Prince's career:

Taken from the UK tabloid The Daily Mirror 10th April 04
www.mirror.co.uk

FROM SEX GOD TO DOORSTEP BIBLE BASHER

By Nick Webster

ON the quiet suburban streets of Minneapolis, he cuts a remarkable
figure. Dressed in a tailor-made suit and trademark stack heels, he
steps lightly out of his purring limo and, surrounded by four
bodyguards, approaches the modest picket-fenced homes.

And to each astonished resident opening their doors to the peculiar
group, multi-millionaire superstar Prince quietly asks: "Would you like
to talk about Jesus?"

Welcome to the new world of the man who once outraged a nation with the
song Sexy MF and who changed his name to a symbol. Gone are the wild
parties, the womanising and the bizarre all-purple lifestyle. Instead,
45-year-old Prince's hedonistic excesses have been replaced with
door-to-door preaching and Bible study classes.

Credit for this remarkable transformation, the Daily Mirror can reveal,
is down to his mother's dying wishes, new wife Manuela Testolini, who,
at 27, is 18 years his junior, and his baptism as a Jehovah's Witness.

It is Manuela - the fan-turned-employee-turned-spouse - who has stood by
his side as he embraced his new faith and it is she who has helped him
return to the musical spotlight after years of obscurity.

This month sees the release of his critically-acclaimed new album
Musicology and he recently made a triumphant return to performing at the
Grammy awards.

The bid to recapture his position among the pop elite is music to the
ears of Canadian-born Manuela.

Prince - who has romanced a string of women, including Sheena Easton,
Susanna Hoffs of The Bangles, Madonna, Kim Basinger, Kristin Scott
Thomas and Carmen Electra - has never been a big fan of monogamy.

But now, in middle-age, he seems to have adopted it with Manuela.

But the way he and Mani, as she is known, met and married is a strange
combination of fairytale and stalker fantasy.

She grew up in a tiny two-bed apartment in a run-down block on the
thundering Don Mills Road in Toronto, Canada.

She was a plain teenager who, as a high school student, was known as an
avid Prince fan.

Her passion for the diminutive musician continued at York University in
Toronto - where she studied for a degree in art - to the detriment of
her social life.

FELLOW student Sorayah Kassim-Lakha remembers her regularly playing her
hero's hits, particularly If I Was Your Girlfriend and I Wanna Be Your
Lover.

"Mani was always very quiet at college," Sorayah says. "She didn't go in
for parties and stuff like that.

"She was only ever interested in her art and in Prince. She was obsessed
with him. It's all she ever talked about."

Mani was a frequent visitor to the internet fan club alt.music.prince, a
forum devoted to her then hero and now husband.

She admitted to being a "lurker" - someone who watches what others say
but seldom joins in conversations.

One of the UK fans who did talk to her online was Antony Golding from
Bolton, Lancs.
"It's all a bit surreal," he says. "She was just a fan who posted a
couple of messages and then suddenly she was working at his Paisley Park
recording studios... and then she was his wife."

Manuela graduated from university in the summer of 1998 and soon after
she landed her dream job working with the singer. That year, she
received a brief credit on Prince's New Power Soul album.

Twelve months later, she became his assistant. Rumours quickly began to
circulate that she was more than just a member of staff before his
marriage to first wife Mayte Garcia was annulled in May 2000.

Less than three years earlier, Mayte had given birth to the couple's son
Gregory, who tragically only lived a week before dying from the rare
bone condition Pfeiffer Syndrome, a genetic skull deformity.

SOON after the annulment, Prince, who was once worth £100million,
took Manuela with him to Bible study classes with the Jehovah's
Witnesses.

After a hush-hush romance, superstar and fan tied the knot in a
Jehovah's Witness wedding in Hawaii on New Year's Eve 2001.

A year later, in a private ceremony at the Kingdom Hall in Chanhassen,
Minnesota, Prince and Mani were baptised into their new faith in front
of the 167-strong congregation.
A small bathtub-sized pool was hired for the occasion. Wearing
knee-length robes with swimsuits underneath, they became full members of
the church by being immersed in the pool.

Ronald Scofield - one of the elders of the Chanhassen Congregation,
Prince's new place of worship - says it was a special day for all.
"Every time one of our members gets baptised it's exciting. But this was
exceptionally exciting because it was someone who has made a lot of
changes to their life.

"We have watched Prince since he started studying the Bible and noticed
a dramatic change. It's something to be very proud of."

The death of Prince's mother, jazz singer Mattie Shaw, was a turning
point for the star, who has sold more than 100million albums.

Her dying wishes were for him to become a Jehovah's Witness, as she had
been for most of her life, and to see him married. He tied the knot with
Mani weeks before his mother passed away and six months after the death
of his father, pianist and bandleader John L Nelson.
As part of his new life, Prince and Manuela pay weekly visits to the
residents of Minneapolis. At times, Scofield accompanies the couple and
their bodyguards.

HE admits it can take a good few minutes before stunned homeowners
recover from the shock of finding a superstar at their door.
Speaking publicly about Prince's new beliefs for the first time,
Scofield confirms: "He's so well known that when he turns up on people's
doorsteps, it really surprises them.
"To see him in a Christian lifestyle is very pleasant. He's doing very
well and spiritually he seems to be making a great deal of progress,
too.

"We go on Bible studies together and work in field service, the
door-to-door ministry that Jehovah's Witnesses are known for. When you
get past the initial shock of actually meeting Prince, he is very
persuasive. He uses the scriptures very well."

After a decade of seclusion, the man christened Prince Rogers Nelson is
back to being plain old Prince and playing the hits that made him famous
such as Purple Rain, Let's Go Crazy and Little Red Corvette.

And no longer is he synonymous with Paisley Park and Minneapolis.

These days, he and Manuela spend much of their time in Los Angeles or
the sprawling £3million grey stone mansion he bought at 61 The
Bridle Path in an upmarket area of Toronto. At first, mystery surrounded
the purchase of the luxury home by a firm called Gamillah Holdings,
until it was discovered that the company's president is one Manuela
Testolini.

While the couple are away touring the US, builders are constructing a
large gatehouse and a new fence, complete with tennis court and pool.

Though it seems a world away, the estate is just a five-minute drive
from Mani's parents' tiny apartment.

Despite the age gap and the star's colourful past, Prince has been
welcomed with open arms by the Testolini family.

In January, residents of the village of Calabogie - on the outskirts of
Ottawa - couldn't believe their eyes when he and Mani arrived in a
gleaming limousine for the modest wedding of her sister Daniela to
businessman Michael Dykeman. Onlookers say Prince and his wife happily
mingled with the other 80 guests during the reception at the Dickson
Manor ski lodge.

The singer admits that along with a new wife, he also has a new set of
values. "There's no more envelope to push," he says. "I pushed it off
the table. It's on the floor. Let's move forward."

PRINCE also says that TV viewers are now bombarded with dirty music
videos.
"Back when I made sexy tunes, the sexiest thing on TV was Dynasty and if
you watch it now, it's like the Brady Bunch," he explains.
"My song Darling Nikki was considered porn because I said the word
masturbate. That's not me any more."

But with the new tour and album to sell, maybe the wife and new beliefs
are just another marketing tool being used by one of the world's
ultimate showmen.

Among those with a view about the "new" Prince is Minneapolis gossip
columnist CJ, who has followed his career for years, much to the
annoyance of the artist himself who wrote a song about her called Billy
Jack Bitch.

"A lot of credit is being given to Manuela," she says.

"Both his parents died recently, too. And that's the last barrier to
realising that you, too, will die. Maybe that's the reason for the
change in personality.

"He was always capable of monogamy but the man got bored quickly. The
traumatic death of his baby changed all that. It affected him in a big
way.

"People are curious as to why he's changed. The joke here in Minneapolis
is that it looks like they finally got the medication right."

Ami .

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Apr 10, 2004, 11:16:38 AM4/10/04
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<<<Ooohhh..and I bet you and your buddy Panic Attack just love this
gossip, eh? >>>

Yes, we do. And if you don't like gossip, get out of this thread and
post in any of the hundred other threads on this newsgroup.

Kareem

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Apr 10, 2004, 3:42:46 PM4/10/04
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They're forgetting about Larry Graham. Didn't Larry and Prince first become
close friends and Larry introduced Prince to the JW religion? If you're
Mani, and Prince says, I want to marry you but you must become a JW, don't
you think she'd go along with anything? They're driving around in limos and
drinking jamba juice for Cripes sake. :)

I wonder if Prince would have married her if she was a 350 lb obsessed fan
with all other qualities remaining the same. :)


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By Nick Webster

SOON after the annulment, Prince, who was once worth £100million,

the sprawling £3million grey stone mansion he bought at 61 The

Ami .

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Apr 10, 2004, 10:02:35 PM4/10/04
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<<Fuck off. I'll post where I want, Webtv Gurl. >>

Pissy troll bitch.

Ami .

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Apr 10, 2004, 10:05:16 PM4/10/04
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<<<They're forgetting about Larry Graham. Didn't Larry and Prince first
become close friends and Larry introduced Prince to the JW religion?>>>

According to this article, Prince's mother was a Jehovah's Witness. I
think this article raises as many questions as it answers.

Chuck

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Apr 11, 2004, 11:52:23 AM4/11/04
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I always thought his mother was a Seventh Day Adventist

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Lorne

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Apr 11, 2004, 4:46:34 PM4/11/04
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(Chuck) wrote:
>I always thought his mother was a Seventh Day Adventist

That was Andre's mother, who 'raised' Prince.
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adventists are an offshoot to JW.


Stephen

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"Ami ." <Gem_...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Read this article. Someone is working overtime to depict Manuela as the
person who revived Prince's career:

Taken from the UK tabloid The Daily Mirror 10th April 04
www.mirror.co.uk

FROM SEX GOD TO DOORSTEP BIBLE BASHER

By Nick Webster


Prince - who has romanced a string of women, including Sheena Easton,

(tabloid bullshit)
Susanna Hoffs of The Bangles,(tabloid bullshit) Madonna,(erm....let's at
least be a little realistic please) Kim Basinger,(ooh, they walked down the
street together one night and were photographed, it MUST be true !) Kristin
Scott
Thomas (like fuck) and Carmen Electra (yet another "he worked with her,
therefore he was shagging her" fantasies)- has never been a big fan of
monogamy.

That his dad died was the only piece of news to me there, shit I've been out
the loop for a little too long !!


clay

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Apr 11, 2004, 8:52:04 PM4/11/04
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> Taken from the UK tabloid The Daily Mirror 10th April 04
> www.mirror.co.uk

- key word.
'tabloid'

Bart Van Hemelen

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clay said the following (about "Re: Swipe From Prince.org: Mani
credited with transforming Prince" in alt.music.prince on Mon, 12 Apr
2004 00:52:04 GMT):

There's plenty of stuff that appears in tabloids that later turns out
to be true (though somewhat exagerrated). Those guys have far less
scruples than general newspapers plus deeper pockets and thus can get
to stories that others can't.

--
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Ami .

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Apr 12, 2004, 12:27:40 PM4/12/04
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<<<I always thought his mother was a Seventh Day Adventist.>>>

This is from page 67 of "Prince: A Pop Life" by Dave Hill, regarding
Bernadette Anderson

<<....there were further connections with the Nelsons, one of them
nutured by the church; the Nelsons, like many black families, were
practising Seventh Day Adventists, and so was Mrs. Anderson's husband,
Fred.>>

Here's something interesting about Prince's teenage years living in Mrs.
Anderson's house from page 68:

<<She did her job as a mom, let's put it that way,' says Pepe Willie,
remembering an occasion whem Mrs. Anderson suspected that Prince --
unusually for him -- played truant one day. "She did not mess around. I
stayed there until he (Prince) stopped crying....">>

Pepe doesn't say why Prince was crying. Maybe Mrs. Anderson had whipped
his butt for skipping school?

PanicAttack

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Gem Gu...@webtv.net (Ami .) wrote in message news:<19556-407...@storefull-3151.bay.webtv.net>...

> Read this article. Someone is working overtime to depict Manuela as the
> person who revived Prince's career:
>
> Taken from the UK tabloid The Daily Mirror 10th April 04
> www.mirror.co.uk
>
> FROM SEX GOD TO DOORSTEP BIBLE BASHER
>
> By Nick Webster
>
> ON the quiet suburban streets of Minneapolis, he cuts a remarkable
> figure. Dressed in a tailor-made suit and trademark stack heels, he
> steps lightly out of his purring limo and, surrounded by four
> bodyguards, approaches the modest picket-fenced homes.

If Prince is really a JW (which I'm not totally convinced/he's just
accociating with them) this would be a highly inappropriate way to go
out into "field service"--for which this activity is known. A limo?
Faithful JWs don't flow-show to draw attention to themselves like
that. They just don't! :)

Besides, Prince would be showing a lot more humilty by wearing a
dequise. In that way his celebrity would not take away from the
message...

Forgive me for being judgemental, a flaw I will admit to, but, I
BELIEVE THAT TOO OFTEN PRINCE DOES THINGS FOR THE WRONG REASONS!

>
> And to each astonished resident opening their doors to the peculiar
> group, multi-millionaire superstar Prince quietly asks: "Would you like
> to talk about Jesus?"

Again, did the person at the door really needed to know that it was
Prince? For the sake of getting his message across and keeping the
person at the door more honest, he should have concealed his identity.

>
> Welcome to the new world of the man who once outraged a nation with the
> song Sexy MF and who changed his name to a symbol. Gone are the wild
> parties, the womanising and the bizarre all-purple lifestyle. Instead,
> 45-year-old Prince's hedonistic excesses have been replaced with
> door-to-door preaching and Bible study classes.

Sometimes I wonder...HOW LONG? Until his career is back on it's feet?
:)



>
> Credit for this remarkable transformation, the Daily Mirror can reveal,
> is down to his mother's dying wishes, new wife Manuela Testolini, who,
> at 27, is 18 years his junior, and his baptism as a Jehovah's Witness.

His baptism to the best of my knowledge has never been confirmed. Yes
he is in association with JWs and has been simply considered one based
on this.



>
> It is Manuela - the fan-turned-employee-turned-spouse - who has stood by
> his side as he embraced his new faith and it is she who has helped him
> return to the musical spotlight after years of obscurity.

Wrong. There are seasoned pros out in Hollywood who are responsible
for this. Not Mani!



>
> This month sees the release of his critically-acclaimed new album
> Musicology and he recently made a triumphant return to performing at the
> Grammy awards.

Prince's performance at the Grammys in my oppinion made Prince look
out-dated!

>
> The bid to recapture his position among the pop elite is music to the
> ears of Canadian-born Manuela.

Any hip person already knows this!

>
> Prince - who has romanced a string of women, including Sheena Easton,
> Susanna Hoffs of The Bangles, Madonna, Kim Basinger, Kristin Scott
> Thomas and Carmen Electra - has never been a big fan of monogamy.
>
> But now, in middle-age, he seems to have adopted it with Manuela.

SEEMS is the primary word here...

>
> But the way he and Mani, as she is known, met and married is a strange
> combination of fairytale and stalker fantasy.

Again, any hip person already knows all this!

>
> She grew up in a tiny two-bed apartment in a run-down block on the
> thundering Don Mills Road in Toronto, Canada.

Warning number one....

> She was a plain teenager who, as a high school student, was known as an
> avid Prince fan.

Warning number two...

>
> Her passion for the diminutive musician continued at York University in
> Toronto - where she studied for a degree in art - to the detriment of
> her social life.

Warning number three...

>
> FELLOW student Sorayah Kassim-Lakha remembers her regularly playing her
> hero's hits, particularly If I Was Your Girlfriend and I Wanna Be Your
> Lover.

Warning number four...

>
> "Mani was always very quiet at college," Sorayah says. "She didn't go in
> for parties and stuff like that.

Fits the stalking profile to a the 9's.



>
> "She was only ever interested in her art and in Prince. She was obsessed
> with him. It's all she ever talked about."

SEE! What Did I tell ya Ami!

>
> Mani was a frequent visitor to the internet fan club alt.music.prince, a
> forum devoted to her then hero and now husband.

Poor Prince!



>
> She admitted to being a "lurker" - someone who watches what others say
> but seldom joins in conversations.

A hunter always does this...



>
> One of the UK fans who did talk to her online was Antony Golding from
> Bolton, Lancs.
> "It's all a bit surreal," he says. "She was just a fan who posted a
> couple of messages and then suddenly she was working at his Paisley Park
> recording studios... and then she was his wife."

It does'nt take a genius to figure out what went down. Just put two
and two together!

>
> Manuela graduated from university in the summer of 1998 and soon after
> she landed her dream job working with the singer. That year, she
> received a brief credit on Prince's New Power Soul album.

Put two and two together! It's not difficult to weave in your head
what happened.

>
> Twelve months later, she became his assistant. Rumours quickly began to
> circulate that she was more than just a member of staff before his
> marriage to first wife Mayte Garcia was annulled in May 2000.

Again, ever hip person knows this!

>
> SOON after the annulment, Prince, who was once worth £100million,


> took Manuela with him to Bible study classes with the Jehovah's
> Witnesses.
>
> After a hush-hush romance, superstar and fan tied the knot in a
> Jehovah's Witness wedding in Hawaii on New Year's Eve 2001.
>
> A year later, in a private ceremony at the Kingdom Hall in Chanhassen,
> Minnesota, Prince and Mani were baptised into their new faith in front
> of the 167-strong congregation.

??? Something's wrong here....JWs don't baptise at Kingdom Halls...Not
only that, the rumors had it that he was baptised months before this!

Then someone recently, a JW from Los Angeles that knows Larry Grahm
stated that Prince was not currently baptised...

> A small bathtub-sized pool was hired for the occasion. Wearing
> knee-length robes with swimsuits underneath, they became full members of
> the church by being immersed in the pool.

Something sounds wrong here. I know about the JWs and they never, to
the best of my kowledge, make specialy arrangements like this for
anybody. They only baptise a certain gatherings. Not like what was
just discribed.

>
> Ronald Scofield - one of the elders of the Chanhassen Congregation,
> Prince's new place of worship - says it was a special day for all.
> "Every time one of our members gets baptised it's exciting. But this was
> exceptionally exciting because it was someone who has made a lot of
> changes to their life.

Now I'm confused.

>
> "We have watched Prince since he started studying the Bible and noticed
> a dramatic change. It's something to be very proud of."
>
> The death of Prince's mother, jazz singer Mattie Shaw, was a turning
> point for the star, who has sold more than 100million albums.
>
> Her dying wishes were for him to become a Jehovah's Witness, as she had
> been for most of her life, and to see him married.

Prince's mother was NOT a JW. Besides, her funeral was at a Baptist
church and JWs don't believe in inter-faith.


He tied the knot with
> Mani weeks before his mother passed away and six months after the death
> of his father, pianist and bandleader John L Nelson.
> As part of his new life, Prince and Manuela pay weekly visits to the
> residents of Minneapolis. At times, Scofield accompanies the couple and
> their bodyguards.
>
> HE admits it can take a good few minutes before stunned homeowners
> recover from the shock of finding a superstar at their door.
> Speaking publicly about Prince's new beliefs for the first time,
> Scofield confirms: "He's so well known that when he turns up on people's
> doorsteps, it really surprises them.
> "To see him in a Christian lifestyle is very pleasant. He's doing very
> well and spiritually he seems to be making a great deal of progress,
> too.

I think Prince is a great actor. That's what I think...

>
> "We go on Bible studies together and work in field service, the
> door-to-door ministry that Jehovah's Witnesses are known for. When you
> get past the initial shock of actually meeting Prince, he is very
> persuasive. He uses the scriptures very well."

I would be careful this this man if I were them...

>
> Though it seems a world away, the estate is just a five-minute drive
> from Mani's parents' tiny apartment.
>
> Despite the age gap and the star's colourful past, Prince has been
> welcomed with open arms by the Testolini family.

I guess so if your broke!

>
> In January, residents of the village of Calabogie - on the outskirts of
> Ottawa - couldn't believe their eyes when he and Mani arrived in a
> gleaming limousine for the modest wedding of her sister Daniela to
> businessman Michael Dykeman. Onlookers say Prince and his wife happily
> mingled with the other 80 guests during the reception at the Dickson
> Manor ski lodge.
>
> The singer admits that along with a new wife, he also has a new set of
> values. "There's no more envelope to push," he says. "I pushed it off
> the table. It's on the floor. Let's move forward."

So now it's time to use the cleaned-up act to get that attention back.
Right?!

>
> But with the new tour and album to sell, maybe the wife and new beliefs
> are just another marketing tool being used by one of the world's
> ultimate showmen.
>

THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BELIEVED FOR A LONG LONG TIME, AND STILL DO HE'S
DOING IT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO HIMSELF! HE'S THERE FOR THE WRONG
REASONS.

> Among those with a view about the "new" Prince is Minneapolis gossip
> columnist CJ, who has followed his career for years, much to the
> annoyance of the artist himself who wrote a song about her called Billy
> Jack Bitch.
>
> "A lot of credit is being given to Manuela," she says.

I could never fathom what for.

PanicAttack

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You go GIRL!!!!!! :)

High-five!

PanicAttack

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> <<Fuck off. I'll post where I want, Webtv Gurl. >>
>
> Pissy troll bitch.

My my! Word up! :)

PanicAttack

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Bart Van Hemelen <see...@bottom.of.post.invalid> wrote in message news:<407d962f...@news.telenet.be>...

> clay said the following (about "Re: Swipe From Prince.org: Mani
> credited with transforming Prince" in alt.music.prince on Mon, 12 Apr
> 2004 00:52:04 GMT):
>
> >> Taken from the UK tabloid The Daily Mirror 10th April 04
> >> www.mirror.co.uk
> >
> >- key word.
> >'tabloid'
>
> There's plenty of stuff that appears in tabloids that later turns out
> to be true (though somewhat exagerrated). Those guys have far less
> scruples than general newspapers plus deeper pockets and thus can get
> to stories that others can't.

Very true, but...there are somethings that are fundamentally wrong
with this article per say...There's a lot that's wrong with this one:
(1) Prince's mother a JW--wrong (2) the manner in which JWs
baptise--wrong, (3) Mani getting all the credit for Prince's attempted
comeback--wrong...Just naming a few.

Some of the stuff mentioned is true. Mani's stalking behavior is one
of 'em. Prince using religion to stand out and draw attention to
himself is another. :)

PanicAttack

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Ami Wrote:
>Read this article. Someone is working overtime to depict Manuela as
>the person who revived Prince's career:

Overtime is an under-statement of the first degree. But, there are
many things written here that are fundamentally wrong or seems just
out of place.

The article stated:


>ON the quiet suburban streets of Minneapolis, he cuts a remarkable
>figure. Dressed in a tailor-made suit and trademark stack heels, he
>steps lightly out of his purring limo and, surrounded by four
>bodyguards, approaches the modest picket-fenced homes.

Something?s wrong with this picture because JWs tend to be very modest
in their approach to preaching activities. They do not use
door-to-door preaching as a grounds to draw personal attention to
themselves as this article suggests that Prince is doing.

Pulling up in limos and bodyguards all displayed in their full glory
is just not the way JWs do things. So if this is true, Prince is
taking liberties that he shouldn?t be and using this as a vehicle to
draw attention to himself--as if God is there to serve him. Not the
other way around. In other words, Prince is doing this for the wrong
reasons.

Please see this link on narcissism and religion:

http://www.healthyplace.com/communities/personality_disorders/narcissism/faq47.html

It reminds me a lot of Prince.

The article states:


>And to each astonished resident opening their doors to the peculiar
>group, multi-millionaire superstar Prince quietly asks: "Would you
>like to talk about Jesus?"

Again, any hip person can see right through this. Why wouldn?t he
dequise himself so that his celebrity does not over shadow the message
that he is bearing? MJ did it once upon a time?


The article said:
>Credit for this remarkable transformation, the Daily Mirror can
reveal, is down >to his mother's dying wishes, new wife Manuela
Testolini, who, at 27, is 18 >years his junior, and his baptism as a
Jehovah's Witness.

There?s nothing to substantiate this claim. The author of this article
is just merely guessing.

The article stated:


>It is Manuela - the fan-turned-employee-turned-spouse - who has stood
by his >side as he embraced his new faith and it is she who has helped
him return to the musical spotlight after years of obscurity.

Again, the author presents no evidence that Mani is indeed the one
responsible for Prince?s attempted comeback. Hollywood hunchos who
still believe in this man?s talent are the ones responsible for this
not her.

And in terms of Mani embrassing religion, she?s tagging along for the
ride simply to get what she wants. Nothing more nothing less. If
pretending to have your act together with the Almighty is what it
takes, than so be it.

The article states:


>The bid to recapture his position among the pop elite is music to the
>ears of Canadian-born Manuela.

And this is what it?s all about. Not religion. Not God. It?s about
money, it?s about fame, it?s about praise and self-glorification. Mani
wants to bask in the sunlight because she personally has nothing to
give that millions would spend money on to see. Which is why people
like her have to leech off those who do just to feel like a human
being.

Besides, the focal point of Prince?s life isn?t supposed to be about
music anymore but the will of God. So how can Mani justify encouraging
Prince to slave for two masters?

The article stated:


>Prince - who has romanced a string of women, including Sheena Easton,
>Susanna Hoffs of The Bangles, Madonna, Kim Basinger, Kristin Scott
>Thomas and Carmen Electra - has never been a big fan of monogamy.

>But now, in middle-age, he seems to have adopted it with Manuela.

Then what the hell was all that Mariah Carey shit a few months ago?
All the flowers?attending several of her performances?

The article states:


>But the way he and Mani, as she is known, met and married is a
strange
>combination of fairytale and stalker fantasy.

Which is a very dangerous situation that could spiral into violence
should Prince ever want out. You don?t marry someone who stalked you!

The article states:


>She grew up in a tiny two-bed apartment in a run-down block on the

>thundering Don Mills Road in Toronto, Canada. She was a plain


teenager who, as >a high school student, was known as an avid Prince
fan.

>Her passion for the diminutive musician continued at York University
in Toronto >where she studied for a degree in art - to the detriment
of her social life.

As well as to the detriment of Mayte and to Prince himself if he does
not watch his step! It?s not just about money with this girl. It?s
deeper! This is not love. This is an obsession!


The article states:


>FELLOW student Sorayah Kassim-Lakha remembers her regularly playing
her hero's >hits, particularly If I Was Your Girlfriend and I Wanna Be
Your Lover.

>"Mani was always very quiet at college," Sorayah says. "She didn't go


>in for parties and stuff like that.

>"She was only ever interested in her art and in Prince. She was


obsessed with >him. It's all she ever talked about."

This is not good. It?s scary! Watch Clint Eastwood?s movie called
?Play Misty For Me?. All of this reminds me of that.

The article states:


>Mani was a frequent visitor to the internet fan club
alt.music.prince, >a forum >devoted to her then hero and now husband.

>She admitted to being a "lurker" - someone who watches what others


say
>but seldom joins in conversations.

Not entirely true. She jumped in when she had to, to bash the hell out
of anyone who got in the way of her winning the prize!


The article states:


>One of the UK fans who did talk to her online was Antony Golding from
>Bolton, Lancs. "It's all a bit surreal," he says. "She was just a fan
who posted >a couple of messages and then suddenly she was working at
his Paisley Park >recording studios... and then she was his wife."

>Manuela graduated from university in the summer of 1998 and soon


after
>she landed her dream job working with the singer. That year, she
>received a brief credit on Prince's New Power Soul album.

>Twelve months later, she became his assistant. Rumours quickly began


to >circulate that she was more than just a member of staff before his
>marriage to first wife Mayte Garcia was annulled in May 2000.

Mani moves fast! There?s just no way she could have moved that quickly
without a plan from the get-go. She already knew what she was going to
do before she even got there. Poor Prince. May God Almighty watch over
his soul!

The article states:


>SOON after the annulment, Prince, who was once worth £100million,
>took Manuela with him to Bible study classes with the Jehovah's
>Witnesses.

>After a hush-hush romance, superstar and fan tied the knot in a
>Jehovah's Witness wedding in Hawaii on New Year's Eve 2001.

Which was why his first marriage was annulled. For Mani!

The article stated:


>A year later, in a private ceremony at the Kingdom Hall in
Chanhassen,
>Minnesota, Prince and Mani were baptised into their new faith in
front

>of the 167-strong congregation. A small bathtub-sized pool was hired


for the occasion. Wearing knee-length robes with swimsuits underneath,
they became full members of the church by being immersed in the pool.

>Ronald Scofield - one of the elders of the Chanhassen Congregation,


>Prince's new place of worship - says it was a special day for all.
>"Every time one of our members gets baptised it's exciting. But this
>was exceptionally exciting because it was someone who has made a lot
>of changes to their life.

>"We have watched Prince since he started studying the Bible and


>noticed a dramatic change. It's something to be very proud of."

Something doesn?t ring right about this. Because, from what I know, no
Elder is going to talk to some tabloid about anything personal from
someone in his congregation!

Secondly, JWs don?t baptize in this sort of fashsion, neither do they
make special concessions for anybody. They don?t care who it is! I
have friends who are JWs, and they do not baptize in Kingdom Halls or
make special concessions for people!

The article states:


>The death of Prince's mother, jazz singer Mattie Shaw, was a turning
>point for the star, who has sold more than 100million albums.

This is up for debate because Prince and his natural mother where
never close. I?m not saying that there was no love there, but they
were not close and neither did Prince attend her funeral.

The article states:


>Her dying wishes were for him to become a Jehovah's Witness, as she
had been for >most of her life, and to see him married.

Prince?s natural mother was not a JW! She had a Baptise funeral!

The article states:


>As part of his new life, Prince and Manuela pay weekly visits to the
>residents of Minneapolis. At times, Scofield accompanies the couple
>and their >bodyguards.

>HE admits it can take a good few minutes before stunned homeowners
>recover from the shock of finding a superstar at their door.

First of all how could Prince possibly do all of this if he?s on the
road half the time, in and out of the country? And why must people
come to their door and have the message distracted because of Prince?s
celebrity and a troup of bodyguards who look like a football team?
There?s no humility being displayed here!

Something?s not right here! JWs don?t go into field-service with
bodyguards! I don?t know who the author spoke with, but something?s
wrong?

Lee Harris

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> "Ami ." <Gem_...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:19556-407...@storefull-3151.bay.webtv.net...
> Read this article. Someone is working overtime to depict Manuela as the
> person who revived Prince's career:
>
> Taken from the UK tabloid The Daily Mirror 10th April 04
> www.mirror.co.uk
>
> FROM SEX GOD TO DOORSTEP BIBLE BASHER
>
> By Nick Webster
>
>
> Prince - who has romanced a string of women, including Sheena Easton,
> (tabloid bullshit)

Sheena is true. They had an apartment together.

> Susanna Hoffs of The Bangles,(tabloid bullshit)

Susannah has admitted she had relations with Prince.


Madonna,(erm....let's at
> least be a little realistic please)

Kim Basinger,(ooh, they walked down the
> street together one night and were photographed, it MUST be true !)

It is true-find the info on when Prince worked on Elisa Fiorello's album-he
was with Kim @ Paisley Park.

Kristin
> Scott
> Thomas (like fuck) and Carmen Electra (yet another "he worked with her,
> therefore he was shagging her" fantasies)- has never been a big fan of
> monogamy.

Carmen is true too

Lee

anaj...@gmail.com

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