Is prince ULCO BED on Candy Dulfer albums?
JunieMorrison
whats more is Prince associates are everywhere on Dulfer recordings. For
instance .....
Prince - Composer
Candy Dulfer - Arranger, Composer, Sax (Alto), Sax (Baritone), Sax (Soprano),
Sax (Tenor), Vocals, Producer, Engineer, Sampling, Vocal Arrangement, Horn
Arrangements, Mastering, Mixing
Pee Wee Ellis - Arranger, Horn, Vocals
Maceo Parker - Arranger, Horn, Vocals
Ball & Stuart & White & MacIntosh - Composer
Patricia Balrak - Vocals
Ulco Bed - Bass, Guitar, Percussion, Arranger, Composer, Drums, Guitar
(Rhythm), Keyboards, Vocals, Producer, Engineer, Performer, Horn Arrangements,
Mastering, Mixing
Look at the songwriting listing
1. 2 Funky (Bed) - 4:50
2. Sax-A-Go-Go (Dulfer/Easy Mo Bee) - 4:55
3. Mister Marvin (Bed) - 5:34
4. Man in the Desert (Bed) - 5:36
5. Bob's Jazz (Bed) - 4:52
6. Jamming (Bed) - 5:23
7. I Can't Make You Love Me (Reid/Shamblin) - 4:32
8. Pick up the Pieces (Ball/Duncan/Gorrie/McIntosh/McIntyre/Stuart/White/Yze) -
4:02
9. Sunday Afternoon (Prince) - 8:07
10. 2 Funky (Bed) - 4:36
But look at how he only lists one.
But even more interesting is how it can be traced back
But lets see Prince met Candy in europe LOOK who does all the writing for her.
He named a track "PEE WEE" after james browns sax player!!
And this is 1990... I am going to debate Prince is Ulco Bed... Ulco only has
listings for Candy Dulfer albums
Lily Was Here (Dulfer/Stewart) - 4:19
2. Pee Wee (Bed) - 3:50 <--notice this Pee wee as in James browns sax player
3. Saxuality (Bed/Dulfer) - 4:11
4. So What (Davis) - 4:59
5. Jazzid (Bed/Dulfer) - 4:21
6. Heavenly City (Bed/Dulfer) - 4:07
7. Donja (Bed) - 5:17
8. There Goes the Neighbourhood (Bed) - 3:55
9. Mr. Lee (Bed) - 4:57
10. Get the Funk (Bed/Dulfer) - 4:14
11. Home Is Not a House (Bata/Dulfer) - 4:07
12. Lily Was Here (Dulfer/Stewart) - 4:27
and also even more weird is the third listing which looks like madhouse tracks
or outtakes LOOK at the titles "Tommy Gun" "Capone" "2 miles" Are on to
something prince fans that we have never talked about??
.Wake Me When It's Over
2. I.L.U.
3. Tommy Gun
4. Jazz It's Me
5. 2 Miles
6. Funkyness
7. Capone
8. Get Funky
9. Chains
10. September
11. Upstairs
12. I'll Still Be Looking
13. Big Girl
14. Wake Me When It's Over
Are we on to something?? Did prince ever have madhouse outtakes rumored to be
called "September" and "Chains" and "Tommy Gun"
Oh and one more thing Lily was here was a sondtrack with Dave stewart. And
Prince and Dave stewart I said to be friends.
BTW Ulco shows up on the 99 release guitar and handclapping.
I brought this up a long time ago and somebody told me it wasnt I advise people
to LOOK again. I think its a alias act what do you think
Harry van Oers
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JunieMorrison
he was a madhouse/prince fan bigtime. I saw Ulco was on the last Candy album
but he didnt write anything this time. Is that his real name?? I just saw all
the credits and it just seemed funny to me. Where else does ulco record for?
Its very funny that the tracks to Big Girl looked like madhous etracks "2
miles" Tommy Gun Capone. Thats why I was suspicious looking in all music.
Harry van Oers
> Hmm where is ulco tho now?
> Is that his real name??
As far as I know it is his real name.
> Where else does ulco record for?
Just Candy, they go way back.
Bart Van Hemelen
"alt.music.prince" on 22 Nov 2000 21:17:45 GMT on the subject of "Is
prince ULCO BED on Candy Dulfer albums? ":
>Per nielsen
NILSEN. Six characters. It ain't that hard!
>never said who it was.
That's because he doesn't need to. Is using a search engine so hard?
http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?q=%22ulco+bed%22
gives 37 results. Jeez, that isn't too much now is it? Now check them
out... The FIRST one will tell you that it's definately NOT Prince --
it even has PHOTOS of Ulco!
>whats more is Prince associates are everywhere on Dulfer recordings. For
>instance .....
Lemme see:
>Pee Wee Ellis - Arranger, Horn, Vocals
NOT a "Prince associate".
>Maceo Parker - Arranger, Horn, Vocals
A "Prince associate" since what? A YEAR? Now look at the release date
of the record.
THAT is the extent of "Prince associates are everywhere"! WOW. What
evidence.
>And this is 1990... I am going to debate Prince is Ulco Bed... Ulco only has
>listings for Candy Dulfer albums
Stupidity reaches new levels. Why bother researching when you can make
up stuff... "hey it's one dude doing everything - it must be Prince".
What are you, TWELVE?
>and also even more weird is the third listing which looks like madhouse tracks
>or outtakes LOOK at the titles "Tommy Gun" "Capone" "2 miles"
This is PATHETIC.
>Oh and one more thing Lily was here was a sondtrack with Dave stewart. And
>Prince and Dave stewart I said to be friends.
Hilarious...
>I brought this up a long time ago and somebody told me it wasnt I advise people
>to LOOK again. I think its a alias act what do you think
I think you need to stop doing drugs and buy a new brain. PATHETIC.
Utter BULLSHIT. It took me FIVE SECONDS to prove you wrong. It
probably took you hours to think this up, and judging from your post
this is something you've been "thinking" about for months, maybe even
years. PATHETIC. Posts like this make me lose any respect for someone
like you. You've proven in the past that you've got a brain, now USE
IT.
And this crap is also all over okayplayer.com and even prince.org...
Good work, Hass. You've just become yet another pathetic Prince fan
who thinks making up stuff in his little brain WITHOUT ANY PROOF and
WITHOUT CHECKING ANYTHING and wasting people's time is more important
than using your brain. NOTHING you posted above even remotely supports
your theory. PATHETIC.
Dammit, even when someone PROVED YOU WRONG on this thread, you still
wouldn't believe him!
Now compare this to http://pr1nc3.com/opinion/hitnrun.asp -- 2500+
words and I've yet to see the first person to even prove me wrong on
anything. Matter of fact, days after I made it public my predictions
were confirmed: NPGonlineLTD posted a boast about earning a lot of
money from one of the shows.
I await your spiteful, "humerous" response...
Bart Van Hemelen
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rjholland
Usually I think people are quick to attack you, but when you act like an ass
to this extent I am reminded why people are quick to attack you.
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LastFunkyHeart
again!!!!!
There is no need to be rude just because Junie M had this theory.
"It took me FIVE SECONDS " Oohh you are the best!.....Seek help!!!!!
:(
Bart Van Hemelen
"alt.music.prince" on Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:10:52 -0600 on the subject
of "Re: Is prince ULCO BED on Candy Dulfer albums?":
>Lighten up Bart.
>
>Usually I think people are quick to attack you, but when you act like an ass
>to this extent I am reminded why people are quick to attack you.
*I* act like an ass?
Who posted a completely unsubstantiated theory -- that I could
disprove with ONE single search at altavista -- both here and on
okayplayer.com without having a single piece of evidence? No doubt
five years from now dozens of fans will think it's true. Look at this
ng: how many posts in the past couple of weeks about this stupid Dr
Feelgood album? Look at the FAQ: why is there an entry about that
Fargo shit (and people STILL think it's him)?
And this wasn't a post by some clueless bimbo, but by a guy who is
supposed to have a brain.
The question he should have asked to himself -- before posting his
views to the world -- isn't "is Ulco Bed a pseudonym for Prince?", but
should have been "is Ulco Bed a real life person?".
Joe Wright
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JunieMorrison
answers?? I dont use Alta vista. I just used allmusic and went to some
websites. But I would like to remind you just because it says on a website so n
so did this. IT doesnt mean that. There are tons of ghostwriters at motown and
if you did RESEARCH it wouldnt matter bart. IT WOULDNT MATTER AT ALL. Alot of
times I dont believe what I read in credits if things seem suspicious. So me
thinking Ulco bed was prince. I mean the name was one suspect and then the song
titles. It was also AND then the people Candy associated with. It just seemed
to me that way with Frankie Blue and Ulco bed. When somebody brought up
frankie. And then I saw he was on millenium and prince wrote something. Its
just suspect all these names and connections thats all. I mean had i seen a
name like "frank jacobs" I wouldnt have said anything but looking around
sometimes you gotta wonder.
Bart Van Hemelen
Is prince ULCO BED on Candy Dulfer albums?":
>How can somebody be so surly and such a ass because somebody didnt have the
>answers??
You didn't even BOTHER lookign for them. Instead, you devised one of
the lamest theories in years and put it online.
Now, considering that you are supposed to be a SMART guy and reliable
and well-informed, this is even WORSE because people tend to believe
you. And since plenty of them are lazy SOBs themselves, they won't
even bother checking a single thing.
>But I would like to remind you just because it says on a website so n
>so did this. IT doesnt mean that.
True. However, if DOZENS of independent sites say the same and offer
you EVIDENCE, chances are it is more likely to be true than your lame
theory.
>Alot of
>times I dont believe what I read in credits if things seem suspicious.
Funny, cuz your ENTIRE theory is based on a cursory reading of
MISTYPED credits.
>So me
>thinking Ulco bed was prince. I mean the name was one suspect
*sigh*
>and then the song
>titles.
Yeah, I forgot, Prince has the copyright on those words in those
combinations...
> It was also AND then the people Candy associated with.
You came up with a handful, most of them barely related to Prince.
> It just seemed
>to me that way with Frankie Blue and Ulco bed. When somebody brought up
>frankie. And then I saw he was on millenium and prince wrote something. Its
>just suspect all these names and connections thats all.
I see the name "Diane Warren" on albums by plenty of people has worked
with, yet I don't think she is Prince. People claim my theories are
weak, yet they have never been able to even put a dent in them, but
I'm supposed to let you -- and ESPECIALLY YOU -- spew total nonsense,
based on some very, very feeble connections, most of them the result
of your overactive imagination? Hass, YOU should know better.
The question you should have asked TO YOURSELF isn not "is Frankie
Blue/Ulco Bed/whoever a pseudonym of Prince?", but: "who is Frankie
Blue/Ulco Bed/whoever, is he/she a real person?" Instead, you went out
looking for "proof" that supported your theory. You noticed Frankie
Blue on one album Prince worked on, but you completely ignored the
fact that he's also on dozens of albums that Prince doesn't have an
ounce of involvement in.
On a recent PPML, some braindead idiot thought Prince had written a
song for Doris Day, because "the song title looked like it could be
one of his" and the credits said "Prince". When peopel made fun of
this, he got angry and demanded people should "prove him wrong" before
making fun of him. Sorry, but that's the other way around. HE should
be the one to offer more than some circumstantial evidence. The same
goes for you.
Moreover, you are supposed to be one of the people that RAISE the
level of discussion here. Instead, you ruined your reputation by
posting this unresearched, utterly childish nonsense.
JunieMorrison
>the lamest theories in years and put it online.
Actually I did. I didnt search altavista I just wanted to see what sessions
were tied to whom. Ulco Bed came up as a suspect because of the timeline was
significant.
>True. However, if DOZENS of independent sites say the same and offer
>you EVIDENCE, chances are it is more likely to be true than your lame
>Funny, cuz your ENTIRE theory is based on a cursory reading of
>MISTYPED credits.
I will say it again. Ulco Bed is not a usual name when it came tied to prince
and the albums Dulfer had I assumed by the songtitles and the listings it could
be a ghost musician credit. EVEN looking at a picture Ive seen people get
hoaxed because they make up a person on the web for Legal reasons.
>Yeah, I forgot, Prince has the copyright on those words in those
>combinations...
>I see the name "Diane Warren" on albums by plenty of people has worked
Theres a difference Diane Warren is at award shows. Ulco Bed isnt. Frankie
Blue isnt. These names just sounded like ghost session names. There are more
than we can imagine.
>People claim my theories are
>weak, yet they have never been able to even put a dent in them, but
>I'm supposed to let you -- and ESPECIALLY YOU -- spew total nonsense,
>based on some very, very feeble connections
Face it bart unless its firsthand information "yo were there type of
situation" its always going to be projectable theory that has little evidence
but suspicion moreso.
>most of them the result
>of your overactive imagination? Hass, YOU should know better.
Funny its just a theory. I never said it was fact. I presented something and I
found a connection to what seemed to be a ghost name to peoples albums. There
is no crime in that. I actually noticed Frankie blue working on others but it
was session work to artists. There was no info on who he was that I could find.
>On a recent PPML, some braindead idiot thought Prince had written a
>song for Doris Day, because "the song title looked like it could be
>one of his" and the credits said "Prince". When peopel made fun of
>this, he got angry and demanded
I will say this there are probably more Prince penned songs than we know about.
Dorris Day may be a giant reach of fantasy. But what I said about Ulco Bed or
frankie Blue isnt. I see alot of songwriting contributions to prince in
sessions. That nobody brings up could he possibly just work with anybody and
see if people notice??
> Instead, you ruined your reputation by
>posting this unresearched, utterly childish nonsense.
ruined my reputation? What I did was offer a theory. Thats all I did. No I
think ruining a reputation is when you completely go so ridden with angst
toward silly theories and missed posts about what prince did on Jan 5,1999 5:30
pm eating toast and some sun chips while working out the synth solo to Strange
but true. Only for you to come back and completely blast somebody because they
"MISSED" that one post 5 weeks ago. Oh heaven forbid that happen
Bart Van Hemelen
Is prince ULCO BED on Candy Dulfer albums?":
>I will say it again. Ulco Bed is not a usual name when it came tied to prince
>and the albums Dulfer had I assumed by the songtitles and the listings it could
>be a ghost musician credit. EVEN looking at a picture Ive seen people get
>hoaxed because they make up a person on the web for Legal reasons.
Prince's involvement with Candy is WELL KNOWN, as well as the extent
of it. WHY would Prince (or candy) lie about it? candy has even
described the tape Prince sent ot her, but she would lie about working
with him on almost all her albums?
>>I see the name "Diane Warren" on albums by plenty of people has worked
>
>Theres a difference Diane Warren is at award shows. Ulco Bed isnt.
No, YOU don't see him at the award shows.
>These names just sounded like ghost session names.
But they AREN'T, and a little research would have told you so.
Instead, you locked yourself in your room and patted yourself on your
back for the incredible find you did.
>Face it bart unless its firsthand information "yo were there type of
>situation" its always going to be projectable theory that has little evidence
>but suspicion moreso.
People even didn't want to admit that Prince said a racial slur when
they saw him say so ON TV. People didn't want to admit that Prince
said "I'm number one at the bank", even though he said similar things
in dozens of interviews and in posts on his official site.
You talk about "second hand reporting" (the correct term is EYE
WITNESS, BTW) but STILL cannot admit that you made a huge boob of
yourself? Get over it Hass, the longer this thead runs the more
ridiculous you sound. YOU chastise people for using EYE WITNESS
accounts (and quotes from interviews, and posts from Prince's official
site), but fail to admit that your own "evidence" mainly exists in
your mind (and NOWHERE else).
>Funny its just a theory. I never said it was fact.
Indeed you didn't. But you suggested that all signs point to it, and
that you had gone to extreme lengths to research it. Which was a LIE.
>I will say this there are probably more Prince penned songs than we know about.
Perhaps. Indeed, it is very likely. But instead of doing what
Interactive Experience used to do and make up a ton of stuff and
publish it as fact, RESEARCH what you say. I suggest you look up
Uptown's review of a book the people of Interactive Magazine helped
compile some years ago.
The Prince community is full of bimbos and posts like yours that
suggest a lot based on VERY FLIMSY evidence do too much harm. People
are way to willing to believe things when they fit their romantic
image. In the end, it makes YOU and those that believe you look
ridiculous and hurts any attempt at raising the standards of
discussion.
>Dorris Day may be a giant reach of fantasy. But what I said about Ulco Bed or
>frankie Blue isnt.
I suggest you re-read my original reply. I proved EASILY that it is.
>ruined my reputation? What I did was offer a theory. Thats all I did. No I
>think ruining a reputation is when you completely go so ridden with angst
>toward silly theories and missed posts about what prince did on Jan 5,1999 5:30
>pm eating toast and some sun chips while working out the synth solo to Strange
>but true. Only for you to come back and completely blast somebody because they
>"MISSED" that one post 5 weeks ago. Oh heaven forbid that happen
And voila, there it is, the "witty" reply I was expecting (and
PREDICTED in my original reply). And STILL you do not want to admit
defeat. Undoubtedly, some moronic post featuring me as the lead
character will pop up soon, and then once again you will prove me
right once again. You are SOOOOO predictable.
How about doing something out of the ordinary and admitting that this
time you made a HUGE goof and you shouldn't have even thought about
posting anything unless you were SURE? Or is that below you? Instead
of attacking me (by twisting facts, no less), how about acknowledging
that I was COMPLETELY right and you don't have a case, never had and
never will be?
Joe Wright
http://web.inter.nl.net/hcc/A.R.Rondeel/ulco.htm
but you had to be a complete tosser (as ususal).
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>described the tape Prince sent ot her, but she would lie about working
>with him on almost all her albums?
Its happened before in music history. I dont believe everything I read when
people are tied to each other. Motown and Warner bros come to mind with big
ghost names in the 70's/60's
>But they AREN'T, and a little research would have told you so.
>Instead, you locked yourself in your room and patted yourself on your
>back for the incredible find you did.
No actually somebody brought it up here and I thought wrong. No crime has been
committed.
>People even didn't want to admit that Prince said a racial slur when
>they saw him say so ON TV. People didn't want to admit that Prince
>said "I'm number one at the bank", even though he said similar things
>in dozens of interviews and in posts on his official site.
At one time in your life bart you said something that caught you in a mood that
was pretty immature. I can gurantee that. Who really cares if Prince said his
dog is satan or not back on the lovesexy tour in Amsterdam.
>
>You talk about "second hand reporting" (the correct term is EYE
>WITNESS, BTW) but STILL cannot admit that you made a huge boob of
>yourself?
I already said it was a mistake but I pointed out there are tons of examples of
ghost session names for others.
>Get over it Hass, the longer this thead runs the more
>ridiculous you sound.
The more ridiculous it has no point. 1.I said I made a mistake. 2.I suggested
even tho I heard otherwise and saw a picture I still thought it could be a
hoax.
> but fail to admit that your own "evidence" mainly exists in
>your mind (and NOWHERE else)
Evidence is all substantial when it comes to the web. Especially yours... you
seem to point so much evidence. But tell me were you there?? Its kind of like
you telling me what happened at a 2 pac shooting. You can read but you can
never get the actual occurence that took place in Las Vegas 96. Just as you
cant actually tell me what happens inside the walls of Paisley park where
prince goes hauling off barrels of money in his money bin while spitting racial
epiphets at white people. Because thats what happens I READ it on Uptown!
>
>Indeed you didn't. But you suggested that all signs point to it, and
>that you had gone to extreme lengths to research it. Which was a LIE.
I didnt research it to the extent a raving lunatic who just made the mistake
of missing a post in the year 1994 august 7th 4:20 pm. If you dont see
anything wrong with it then thats the real problem right there. Not me
misguessing a name. Alot of people cant even post on this board questions they
have cuz fear of a madman stomping their respect into the ground.
>Undoubtedly, some moronic post featuring me as the lead
>character will pop up soon, and then once again you will prove me
>right once again. You are SOOOOO predictable.
And you arent predictable? You downtrodden everybody on everyplace just because
they bring up something they didnt know that you know. On prince.org or AMP
That to me is really PREDICTABLE and quite moronic if you ask me. If people
miss a post I dont blast them cuz they didnt see it. Professor Van Hemelen
sometimes a post is missed by their eyes. Get over yourself. But you go off
the rocker when somebody asks a question that was covered 1 month ago. When
maybe they just got here. Oh that never could happen at all! See I dont have
this maligned view that everybody is heere to screw with you or maybe Bart
thats all it is. Its a conspiracy. Im seeing a pattern of what you normally do
to people. I will say this you lack a certain respect for others bigtime and
thats even worse than correcting peoples errors maliciously.. You want to
know because its true and Im not the only one who sees it. Great you have the
answers but try for once in your deillusional life to have some courtesy and
respect for people who havent been studying prince at the Uptown Paisley
Research Institute for their entire life on this forum.
>How about doing something out of the ordinary and admitting that this
>time you made a HUGE goof and you shouldn't have even thought about
>posting anything unless you were SURE?
How about you do something out of the ordinary and for once treat somebody with
respect who has a naive question. it doesnt have to be me just make it one
person who missed a post instead of hammering them because they dont check
prince.org or didnt see the post because they were on Vacation in Madrid.. One
person can you do it??
Lets see I said I made a mistake already in case you didnt see that. Maybe you
should RESEARCH that.
>Instead
>of attacking me (by twisting facts, no less), how about acknowledging
>that I was COMPLETELY right and you don't have a case, never had and
>never will be?
Are we lawyers? Are you Cochran?
How did I personal attack you? Lets see you came into my reply. I offered a
theory of what I saw that looked different. Why is it so important for you to
be right? Did I say you werent on this matter? I never said such a thing. If
anything bart you attacked me because you have this disease to be right. Thats
quite a messiah complex you got there. Your right... right out of your mind
making a big deal out of this. I can honestly say that I have never ever posted
on a board with somebody as so maligned with Net logic/info as you in the
Prince newsgroups and message boards..
PS all people of amp BART is right. He really is now give him the Righteous
Research scepter that he so desperately wants. Now I think I understand why
people dont post on here more questions. They really dont want to be taken a
chop at because their question was covered. See thats the funny thing you dont
even notice you have issues regarding that. You display paragraphs and
paragraphs of insults to people who do nothing less than ask a silly question.
And the end result for you to be right. If anything Bart you have shown
yourself yet another example once again to many people on this board that you
are just out to pick a fight with somebody who could care less. That person
being me. Just in case you didnt see the words so your adrenalin can increase
and you foam at the mouth begins....
YOU
ARE
RIGHT
TedDaniell
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Bart Van Hemelen
on Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:45:25 -0000 on the subject of "Re: Is prince
ULCO BED on Candy Dulfer albums?":
>This is all you had to do Bart---->
>http://web.inter.nl.net/hcc/A.R.Rondeel/ulco.htm
No, this is all Hass had to do.
>but you had to be a complete tosser (as ususal).
Funny, you didn't say that when Hass was babbling some BS about
"second hand information" etc a while ago in reaction to oen of my
posts. All I did is show him the difference between some vague,
unfounded accusations and a detailed criticism of his post. But
instead of admitting that I'm right, he starts throwing the same
insults again (which are unfounded) and comes up with this lame
explanation for his post -- while I had already taken those things and
exposed them for the feeble crap they are.
Why can't Hass just admit he was wrong? Why does he suddenly minimize
his post?
Joe Wright
I guess you don't get so uptight about people not researching every single
thing before they SPEAK otherwise someone would have kicked the crap out of
you by now!
It's usually easier for a person to ask a question (vocally or a post here)
than RESEARCH for some time, you can always skip over it. Just because you
already know the answer, aren't interested or don't consider it newsworthy
doesn't really make it polite to use your rude tone and try and belittle
them (Would this really be acceptable in REAL life?).
Joe.
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Funk
well, bart is an ev!l egotist.
Junie, he's just trying to have some fun.
sure makes for good reading :)
The P
thefreak
>What's the big deal guys?
wtf? didnt u see what went down and how and by whom as usual?
"I've got the same ol' friends, they've got the same ol' sins"
ICQ#18984002
TedDaniell
>
>wtf? didnt u see what went down and how and by whom as usual
Yeah, and my responce is to both of them. YOU stay outta it! ;)
thefreak
>>wtf? didnt u see what went down and how and by whom as usual
>
>Yeah, and my responce is to both of them. YOU stay outta it! ;)
No, because I lub both of 'em. Plus I could say the same thing to you:stay
outta it.:-)
Michael Gray
Queen Of The Damned
<<Just as you cant actually tell me what happens inside the walls of Paisley
park where prince goes hauling off barrels of money in his money bin while
spitting racial epiphets at white people. >>
ROTFLMAO!!!! And the line about the Uptown Paisley Park Research Institute
had me rolling!!
Good post and very much on point. I miss those parodies.
NP:He Loves Me (Lyzel In E Flat) -- Jill Scott
Bart Van Hemelen
Is prince ULCO BED on Candy Dulfer albums?":
>> WHY would Prince (or candy) lie about it? candy has even
>>described the tape Prince sent ot her, but she would lie about working
>>with him on almost all her albums?
>
>Its happened before in music history. I dont believe everything I read when
>people are tied to each other. Motown and Warner bros come to mind with big
>ghost names in the 70's/60's
Completely IRRELEVANT.
>>People even didn't want to admit that Prince said a racial slur when
>>they saw him say so ON TV. People didn't want to admit that Prince
>>said "I'm number one at the bank", even though he said similar things
>>in dozens of interviews and in posts on his official site.
>
>At one time in your life bart you said something that caught you in a mood that
>was pretty immature.
And once again hass twists the truth... So Prince was "in a mood", was
he? Funny, because apparently he was in the same mood during dozens of
interviews over a long period, when he posted messages on his website,
when he wrote songs, etc.
>Evidence is all substantial when it comes to the web. Especially yours... you
>seem to point so much evidence. But tell me were you there??
What are you, 12? "were you there"??? So unless someone is actually
present they cannot comment on something or even use other people's
testimony. Well, say goodbye to 99.99% of science, history, etc. And
to the judicial system. Etc.
>Its kind of like
>you telling me what happened at a 2 pac shooting. You can read but you can
>never get the actual occurence that took place in Las Vegas 96.
But I can come up with a very detailed description that is backed by
evidence etc. Bullet experts weren't there when a gun was shot, yet
they can often determine with 99% certainty that a bullet came from a
gun. You're talking BS, Hass, and you know it.
>Just as you
>cant actually tell me what happens inside the walls of Paisley park where
>prince goes hauling off barrels of money in his money bin while spitting racial
>epiphets at white people. Because thats what happens I READ it on Uptown!
Instead of devising this stupid charicature, how about grwoing up and
keeping this at a decent level? Are you able to do that, Hass?
Uptown is one of my sources yes, as well as interviews, posts on his
site,... What I do is confront these to what happened, confronting
Prince's words with his actions. Now, if you've got a better
explanation that incorporates everything (like I do in my pieces),
bring it forward. It's easy to say "well that isn't true", but if it
isn't, why don't you prove me wrong? Where is YOUR explanation? And
remember: no loose threads. If your explanation only fits for 80% and
conflicts with the other 20%, it isn't valid.
>>Indeed you didn't. But you suggested that all signs point to it, and
>>that you had gone to extreme lengths to research it. Which was a LIE.
>
>I didnt research it to the extent a raving lunatic who just made the mistake
>of missing a post in the year 1994 august 7th 4:20 pm.
Again taking the low road. As I proved in my original post: ONE visit
to altavista.com woudl have solved this. This has got NOTHING to do
with what you say here.
>Alot of people cant even post on this board questions they
>have cuz fear of a madman stomping their respect into the ground.
That says more about those people than about me.
>And you arent predictable? You downtrodden everybody on everyplace just because
>they bring up something they didnt know that you know. On prince.org or AMP
>That to me is really PREDICTABLE and quite moronic if you ask me. If people
>miss a post I dont blast them cuz they didnt see it. Professor Van Hemelen
Once again taking the low road...
>sometimes a post is missed by their eyes. Get over yourself. But you go off
>the rocker when somebody asks a question that was covered 1 month ago. When
>maybe they just got here.
NOT an excuse. EVERY guide to the inetrnet always says the same: LURK
before you post to get an idea of the level of discussion. Read the
FAQ. Etc.
>See I dont have
>this maligned view that everybody is heere to screw with you
Neither do I. Again you take the low road...
>I will say this you lack a certain respect for others bigtime
I do not respect those that are too lazy to wipe their own asses,
indeed. In this day & age there is no excuse for ignorance.
>How about you do something out of the ordinary and for once treat somebody with
>respect who has a naive question. it doesnt have to be me just make it one
>person who missed a post instead of hammering them because they dont check
>prince.org or didnt see the post because they were on Vacation in Madrid..
And again this "missing a post" crap. As you know very well newsgroups
are archived @ deja.com. Prince.org's news is searcheable. It isn't
about people missing posts, it's about people being too stupid to
enter a word in a search box and hitting "enter".
>How did I personal attack you?
Are we having short term memory problems?
---------------------------------------------------------
Here's what juniem...@aol.com (JunieMorrison) told
"alt.music.prince" on 24 Nov 2000 23:22:35 GMT on the subject of "RE:
Is prince ULCO BED on Candy Dulfer albums?":
>How can somebody be so surly and such a ass because somebody didnt have the
>answers??
Here's what juniem...@aol.com (JunieMorrison) told
"alt.music.prince" on 27 Nov 2000 23:19:32 GMT on the subject of "Re:
Is prince ULCO BED on Candy Dulfer albums?":
>No I
>think ruining a reputation is when you completely go so ridden with angst
>toward silly theories and missed posts about what prince did on Jan 5,1999 5:30
>pm eating toast and some sun chips while working out the synth solo to Strange
>but true.
---------------------------------------------------------
Both of these attack my character in an attempt to dismiss my reply.
Most of the post I'm replying to now is exactly the same thing: you
dismiss me to avoid saying what you cannot bring yourself to say: that
not a single thing I wrote in my first reply isn't true, and that I
was completely right from start to finish.
>Why is it so important for you to
>be right?
No, why is it so important to YOU? Why do you keep defending your
post?
>Did I say you werent on this matter?
Did you say I was?
>If
>anything bart you attacked me because you have this disease to be right.
No, because YOU, a smart guy, posted something incredibly stupid.
>Your right... right out of your mind
>making a big deal out of this.
*I* make "a big deal out of this"? Hmmm... Who posted his unfounded
theory both here and on okayplayer.com without having the decendy to
research it? Who was ready to gain praise from discovering "yet
another Prince pseudonym"? Who is as we speak trying desperately to
justify his post, despite me proving EXTENSIVELY that nothing in the
original post made any sense?
>You display paragraphs and
>paragraphs of insults to people who do nothing less than ask a silly question.
And I post the solution, or a way to get it.
>And the end result for you to be right. If anything Bart you have shown
>yourself yet another example once again to many people on this board that you
>are just out to pick a fight with somebody who could care less.
Once again taking the low road...
As for "somebody who could care less" -- that would explain the
lengthy replies filled with character assassination...
Bart Van Hemelen
"alt.music.prince" on 28 Nov 2000 16:28:46 GMT on the subject of "Re:
Is prince ULCO BED on Candy Dulfer albums?":
>What's the big deal guys?
http://www.prince.org/faq/search_faq.html?faq=38
Despite the fact that the "solution" appeared in several magazines
almost immediately after the release, even today there are still
people that think Prince was in "Fargo" (the movie):
http://www.prince.org/news/display.html?6327
I wouldn't be surprised if this "Prince = Ulco Bed" crap will return
in the future, since plenty of people will only have seen Hassen's
ridiculous original post and not checked back for replies.
Ifsixwuz9
whole post. "now give him the Righteous Research scepter that he so
desperately wants." LOL!
JunieMorrison
Its a pattern in someones behaviour thats all I can say and its straight sad.
I can put it in neon letters and I still will have to keep saying it.
TedDaniell
>almost immediately after the release, even today there are still
>people that think Prince was in "Fargo" (the movie):
He was, wasn't he??? hehehehehehe
Funk
>are archived @ deja.com. Prince.org's news is searcheable. It isn't
>about people missing posts, it's about people being too stupid to
>enter a word in a search box and hitting "enter".
this is good. ALOT of ppl are not aware of this.
The P
JunieMorrison
No its not. Im making a observation about hidden alias that are still unknown
to this day with bios and pics and the whole thing. Hell even John Lurie had
people going with "Marvin Pontiac" who he fabricated about a old musician who
got put in a insane asylum and then got hit by a bus. He later then admitted it
was alias for him to release a folk experimental songwriting lp. Heavens
forbid I thought maybe thats what happened in this case. A fabricated alias.
PS im wrong...
And once again hass twists the truth... So Prince was "in a mood", was
he? Funny, because apparently he was in the same mood during dozens of
interviews over a long period, when he posted messages on his website,
when he wrote songs, etc.
I didnt twist the truth. You can be in a mood alot of different times even the
same asshole mood that you dislike. You know why? Because thats what being a
individual is all about. To choose to be an asshole or not. You arent moody? I
beg to differ if you ever became a musician bart we would have a "BART" on
your newsgroups analyzing everything you do as well. Its alot different when
the microscope is on YOU all the time. Heck if Prince wants to be moody and
talk in a scottish accent like scrooge mcduck saying "I HATE my fans but I
looove me MONEY!!" while backstroking in his money bin he earned off Love4one
another charities and Crystal Ball sales from 1800 new funk he can do that.
Because nobody put a time limit on what being moody is defined as. Prince can
say Bugs bunny is satan and not to watch looney tunes because WB owns Bugs
trademark. If you do a nice thing one day then you are a asshole the next
guess what you ARE MOOOODY!! surprise prince is moody. Imagine that...
What are you, 12? "were you there"??? So unless someone is actually
present they cannot comment on something or even use other people's
testimony. Well, say goodbye to 99.99% of science, history, etc. And
to the judicial system. Etc.
No Im saying History is a series of events taken place on a wide scale of
people who witnessed it and it impacted us. You cant really factualize a
statement that prince said while he was brushing his teeth mumbling with his
gold symbol toothbrush "My fans are hoes and im pimping them Prince up fans
DOWN!" Thats not history thats a rumor. Just because uptown reports it
doesnt make it actual occurence that had taken place.
You're talking BS, Hass, and you know it.
BS is when you yell research at somebody for asking a question that they dont
know and they dont know about the Uptown Research Institute. Its like they are
thinking "This place sucks...why did I get slammed for not knowing that"
Thats BS
But I can come up with a very detailed description that is backed by
evidence etc.
Yes you can and to your credit you do that good. But you also go off the deep
end when somebody brings up something that is clashing with your thoughts on
Prince. Its seen on prince.org and here frequently. And nobody is really saying
you are wrong you just percieve that.
Instead of devising this stupid charicature, how about grwoing up and
keeping this at a decent level? Are you able to do that, Hass?
I dont have to devise a caricature. You do it to yourself. And thats quite
hypocritical to say for me to "grow up" I do not go around screaming "PATHETIC"
"MORONIC" "IDIOT" to anybody who any newbie asks a naive question. You want
a caricature that fits you?? Okay mojamba you got it
You dont know this one but that doesnt matter. On saturday night live within
all the overdone skits they have they have this character created by Jimmy
Fallon. He is "Nick Burns the company computer guy" The whole premise of this
skit is people ask questions that seem reasonable about computer terminals but
no matter what it is Burns (computer expert) always trashes them and calls
them "Moronic" "stupid" And puts them in a position where they dont even want
to speak then when he finally tells them whats wrong and they cant fix it and
he says "MOOOOOVE " reeal loud and then teases them and puts them down because
they are BENEATH him. That is you to a TEE. You are nick burns the company
computer guy. You put people beneath you who ask naive questions who dont have
the knowledge in certain areas you do. Thats what you dont get thru your head.
That doesnt make what you do right treating people the way you do because they
are rookies to newsgroups. " ~hes Nick burns the company computer guy"
Uptown is one of my sources yes, as well as interviews, posts on his
site,... What I do is confront these to what happened, confronting
Prince's words with his actions.
So basically speaking you have never talked to prince? You dont live in the
USA. You dont talk to him on the phone. You dont have any type of interaction
that could be regarded as "accurate example" of Prince the meanie. You
basically have alot of net minions who tell you things and you have to assume
this is true what you hear on the digital net matrix. While the rest of the
knowledge is taken from transcripts of interviews,media appearances and text
off a prince website. So you are basically the Kenneith starr of Prince.org
and AMP? You want to find princes mistakes and show him that he isnt a good
person all the time. Heavens sake!! He is a human!! Thats news to me...right
there
Now, if you've got a better
explanation that incorporates everything (like I do in my pieces),
bring it forward. It's easy to say "well that isn't true", but if it
isn't, why don't you prove me wrong? Where is YOUR explanation? And
remember: no loose threads. If your explanation only fits for 80% and
conflicts with the other 20%, it isn't valid.
Wait a minute Van halen Loose threads technically are what you do. You thread
together facts and rumors and text supposedly typed by prince on npgonline. I
will admit Bart its pretty good what you "THREAD" And "Piece" together. But
that by definition is loose because you cant really be sure thats prince typing
and you cant be sure that your INSIDE source isnt really smoking purple crack
from a get wild bottle. So technically bart I hate to say it but you got LOOSE
threads too. They are good threads but still loose. "LOOOSE shake your
muthafuckin DOO"
Again taking the low road. As I proved in my original post: ONE visit
to altavista.com woudl have solved this. This has got NOTHING to do
with what you say here.
So alt vista is this near new mexico? Can I drink the water? Lets be real for a
second bart something you seldom do. Because I didnt know to search altvista
for what I needed that makes me "PATHETIC"? Hell no... I check allmusic and
Ultimate band list and yahoo. Shoot me for that... It has everything to do
what I am getting at USUALLY. Bart quick.. whose alias is JS THERACON? Its
Junie Morrison RESEARCH!!! thats so pathetic you didnt know. All you had to
do was have Parliaments motor booty affair and look at the credits and see "JS
theracon" then be in the studio in Bahamas where it was recorded. Thats an
example of how you come off. Very "Nick Burns" like and chief if you want to
debate that ask anybody who sees your posts. Very snide and crabby because they
dont know what you know. But what is common knowledge to you isnt to others.
Psst some on here are House wives who like the purple one who dont have the
technical jargon that "Nick Burns" does. "MOOOOOOOOVE"
That says more about those people than about me.
No it says you fly off the handle over nothing. a Rookie who asks a naive
question who doesnt search altvista. Thats a crime in some countries isnt it
bart? You can get caned for that cant you??
Once again taking the low road...
Bart you gave me the directions for that thats for sure. Need we research your
infamous insulting posts on Prince.org or amp. (take your pick) Dont talk to me
about me knowing the Low road cuz if you want a challenge man then count up
all the times you insulted people on forums and I will count all the times I
did. IT wont even equal a fraction to how many times you shifted in 4 wheel
drive to take the low road to Crabbyville. You know it and everybody on here
knows it.
NOT an excuse. EVERY guide to the inetrnet always says the same: LURK
before you post to get an idea of the level of discussion. Read the
FAQ. Etc.
Bart this is so Nick burns-like. Some people dont have the time you do company
computer guy. Their profession isnt on the internet as I have said. Some people
just want a answer to their question. They may be lazy in your eyes but some
people dont want a asshole remark just because their question might have been
answered back in 1993 "Oh you dont know the FAQ?? What are you STUUUPID?/?
MOOOOOOOVE!!"
Neither do I. Again you take the low road.
Bart quick for the 200 k question who called somebodys thoughts "idiotic"?
Thats called the low road. In other words YOU did it first amigo. Try again
it was a good try
I do not respect those that are too lazy to wipe their own asses,
indeed. In this day & age there is no excuse for ignorance.
See above some people dont "HAVE" it like you do company computer guy.
And again this "missing a post" crap. As you know very well newsgroups
are archived @ deja.com. Prince.org's news is searcheable. It isn't
about people missing posts, it's about people being too stupid to
enter a word in a search box and hitting "enter".
They are stupid because they dont search a topic? What if the subject doesnt
come up they are looking for because its too dated and its been deleted from
deja or whereever?? Or what if it comes up with hundreds of matches for that
word? What if they only have limited time? You dont have the answer for that
and thats why I say easy Nick Burns....
How did I personal attack you?
Are we having short term memory problems?
If I remember correctly you replied to my post and insulted me because of a
wild theory on a prince alias I had mistaken. Did that post say anywhere "BART
you suck I hate you Ulco bed is prince and you are wrong sucker"? Answer:
NOwhere did I mention you in my ulco bed post. You came crashing thru and I
witnessed firsthand how deillusional you really are. If I remember correctly
you attacked everything I said and even had the lunatic side to post the same
type of tangent on okayplayer.com. Just because you are addicted to being
right. I already said you were right. And I cant say it too many times. But I
will say it one more time for you Nick Burns..... YOU ARE RIGHT ULCO BED IS NOT
A PRINCE ALIAS..... now... in the immortal words of Nick Burns "MOOOOOOVE"
"~hes Nick Burns the company computer guy"
JunieMorrison
the Faq for newsgroup discussion say anywhere the proper etiquette to replying
to a question is OHHHH I dunno... "MORON " or "Idiot" "PATHETIC!" yelling out
"Research" that sort of things?? Id be interested in knowing what the FAQ says
on insulting and badgering the posters who ask simpleminded questions where
company computer guy (you) inhabits..
Im just checking because you said we need to study the faq on rules and
regulations right? Or do those not apply to you? Im sure insulting somebody in
a discussion forum is proper procedure. So you know you probably are RIGHT on
that. So nah never mind with the question. But hey some people skip over the
shaky areas they need to work on at the AMP University. So you know I will let
this one slip no demerit on your record.
Since you want to do everything by the book a little advice ...
PRACTICE what you preach.
Bart Van Hemelen
Is prince ULCO BED on Candy Dulfer albums?":
>>>Its happened before in music history. I dont believe everything I read when
>>>people are tied to each other. Motown and Warner bros come to mind with big
>>>ghost names in the 70's/60's
>>
>>Completely IRRELEVANT.
>
>No its not.
Yes it is. The two things have got NOTHING to do with each other.
>I didnt twist the truth. You can be in a mood alot of different times even the
>same asshole mood that you dislike. You know why? Because thats what being a
>individual is all about.
Hass, stop taking drugs. (Or start taking them again.) Learn the
difference between personality and mood. The difference between
coincidence and pattern.
>No Im saying History is a series of events taken place on a wide scale of
>people who witnessed it and it impacted us. You cant really factualize a
>statement that prince said while he was brushing his teeth mumbling with his
>gold symbol toothbrush "My fans are hoes and im pimping them Prince up fans
>DOWN!" Thats not history thats a rumor. Just because uptown reports it
>doesnt make it actual occurence that had taken place.
And once again Hass starts making up stuff because he knows he is
losing this argument. Hass, how about CONCRETE examples instead of
these vague, unsubstantiated claims? Oh wait, I know why: THERE ARE
NONE.
>BS is when you yell research at somebody for asking a question that they dont
>know and they dont know about the Uptown Research Institute.
And once again Hass starts making up stuff because he knows he is
losing this argument. In case you forgot, Hass, I used Altavista, a
simple, plain search engine. Google.com is also good. Used by millions
of people each day to... LOOK UP STUFF.
>Yes you can and to your credit you do that good. But you also go off the deep
>end when somebody brings up something that is clashing with your thoughts on
>Prince.
Hass, how about CONCRETE examples instead of these vague,
unsubstantiated claims? In case your brain isn't equipped to
understand what I post half of the time: I point to EXAMPLES -- not
OPINIONS -- that contradict people's words. FACTUAL events:
interviews, posts, dates, etc. I "attack" the validity of their
opinions by proving them wrong, something you haven't managed to do at
all in this thread.
>I dont have to devise a caricature.
Right...
>You dont know this one but that doesnt matter. On saturday night live within
>all the overdone skits they have they have this character created by Jimmy
>Fallon. He is "Nick Burns the company computer guy" The whole premise of this
>skit is people ask questions that seem reasonable about computer terminals but
>no matter what it is Burns (computer expert) always trashes them and calls
>them "Moronic" "stupid" And puts them in a position where they dont even want
>to speak then when he finally tells them whats wrong and they cant fix it and
>he says "MOOOOOVE " reeal loud and then teases them and puts them down because
>they are BENEATH him. That is you to a TEE. You are nick burns the company
>computer guy. You put people beneath you who ask naive questions who dont have
>the knowledge in certain areas you do. Thats what you dont get thru your head.
>That doesnt make what you do right treating people the way you do because they
>are rookies to newsgroups. " ~hes Nick burns the company computer guy"
"ask questions that seem reasonable". But are they?
Ten minutes ago I had an account exec at my desk yelling at me for
screwing up the password to the intranet we had made for a client.
Guess what? I looked through the logs and discovered that the error
was HIS: he'd managed to misspell the password to this thing we've
been working on for ages ("heigth" instead of "height").
Now, HE has TWO projects to supervise. I am currently working on THREE
active projects, I'm also supposed to remember details about half a
dozen upcoming ones, I also have to support older projects (about a
dozen, each with their own quirks), etc. I can do this, yet he has
problems rememebring basic stuff (which he can look up easily by
himself anyway).
Plus: you'd be amazed at how many times I have been called to an
urgent job which in the end involves plugging in an electric cable.
What I'm saying is that most "reasonable" questions usually aren't.
Most of them are the result of laziness and incompetence. And in this
day & age, is it really that hard to look stuff up? To use a search
engine? Why do you continue to celebrate total incompetence? Why do
you insists that when dumb people enter the room, automatically the
conversation should dumb down?
>So basically speaking you have never talked to prince? You dont live in the
>USA. You dont talk to him on the phone. You dont have any type of interaction
>that could be regarded as "accurate example" of Prince the meanie.
<sigh>
Yeah, what's the point of looking at what Prince says, endorses,
promotes, DOES -- it's all a big lie unless you've talked to him. Now,
funnily enough, if there's one thing that is a returning thing with
Prince, it is the FACT that he rewrites his story, his past, to fit
his new ideals. He's also lied, made promises he had no intention of
fulfilling, etc. All of these are backed by EVIDENCE. Just look at
what he promised about this tour, and what actually happened. Now,
there's about two months inbetween, and they didn't bother correcting
anything. Yet, judging from you POV, what people OBSERVED when they
went to the shows is less believable, less valuable than what Prince
posted on his site.
>You
>basically have alot of net minions who tell you things and you have to assume
>this is true what you hear on the digital net matrix.
Pathetic... I am ALONE. I base my posts on what others have posted,
yes, but also on a ton of other things. Why do you CONTINUE to LIE,
Hass? Where are the CONCRETE examples? Not some vague blah blah, but
FACTS.
>While the rest of the
>knowledge is taken from transcripts of interviews,media appearances and text
>off a prince website. So you are basically the Kenneith starr of Prince.org
>and AMP?
Yet again the low road because you cannot win the argument.
> You want to find princes mistakes
I don't have to find them. They're IN YOUR FACE. But YOU chose to
ignore them, base theories on half the facts because the other half
doesn't fit. This is what I accused you of in the first place in this
thread: that you went out of your way to find evidence that Ulco Bed
was Prince, clinged on to every useless bit of info ("it's an anagram
of could be!", "dave stewart is on the disc!") and ignored anything
that disproved your theory. All the things you accuse me of (but
cannot prove since there IS NO PROOF) are true of YOU, of YOUR post.
> and show him that he isnt a good
>person all the time. Heavens sake!! He is a human!! Thats news to me...right
>there
Why do you continue to ignore major personality flaws in Prince's
character that are CLEARLY having an influence on his work?
>Wait a minute Van halen
How funny, making fun of the name. Real grown up Hass, and usually the
sign of someone desperately losing the discussion. You know who you
sound like? George Costanza, desperate to "win" the fight but out of
his depth, and thus resorting to stupid, childish insults.
>Loose threads technically are what you do. You thread
>together facts and rumors and text supposedly typed by prince on npgonline. I
>will admit Bart its pretty good what you "THREAD" And "Piece" together. But
>that by definition is loose because you cant really be sure thats prince typing
He ENDORSES it, doesn't he? The things I refer to are in the section
of the site that is EXPLICITELY announced on his site as STRAIGHT FROM
THE HORSE'S MOUTH. If it's there, it's OFFICIAL. No stupid excuses
like "well he doesn't type it". NOT the point, and you know it.
>So technically bart I hate to say it but you got LOOSE
>threads too. They are good threads but still loose.
Instead of theorizing, GIVE SOME EXAMPLES.
>So alt vista is this near new mexico? Can I drink the water? Lets be real for a
>second bart something you seldom do. Because I didnt know to search altvista
>for what I needed that makes me "PATHETIC"? Hell no... I check allmusic and
>Ultimate band list and yahoo. Shoot me for that... It has everything to do
>what I am getting at USUALLY. Bart quick.. whose alias is JS THERACON? Its
>Junie Morrison RESEARCH!!! thats so pathetic you didnt know.
And AGAIN you take the low road... I don't need to know because I CAN
LOOK IT UP:
http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?q=theracon
18 results. Wow. Big fucking deal. Now, if I cared enough, was
inteested enough, I could easily find the answer. People come here,
sounding desperate, posting the same shit over and over again --
"where are the lyrics to radical man???" -- yet think it's too much
trouble to SEARCH for it themselves. So I point this out -- for the
nth time -- and guess what? Dozens of people suddenly find the time to
bitch about me! Now, where were they when that guy asked his question
-- TWICE?
Of course, the original poster also had to do his bit, and instead of
acknowledging that I was right, he put on some righteous tone and
posted some sarcastic crap. But he -- and everyone else -- knows deep
in their hearts that I WAS RIGHT. If you're that interested, do some
fuckingeffort. I got interested in Sly Stone a long time ago, and
instead of whining on a mailing list of posting in a ng, I went out
and used a search engine to locate stuff. I went to libraries and did
research. Etc. If you care enough to ask -- and ask again, and again
-- why is it too hard to DO SOME OF THE WORK YOURSELF? Especially in a
ng that isn't exactly helpful.
>Thats an
>example of how you come off.
No, that was you making stuff up
>Psst some on here are House wives who like the purple one who dont have the
>technical jargon that "Nick Burns" does. "MOOOOOOOOVE"
If you don't know how to use a search engine, get off the web.
>Bart you gave me the directions for that thats for sure. Need we research your
>infamous insulting posts on Prince.org or amp. (take your pick)
Do I throw insults about? YES. At people who deserve it: the lazy
bums, the stupid think they know it alls. You pretend this here is a
civilised discussion, but instead all you do is post some nonsense,
mixed with unsubstantiated allegations. AGAIN you misunderstood me,
and either you did this deliberately, or you did this because you are
not half as smart as you pretend to be.
>NOT an excuse. EVERY guide to the inetrnet always says the same: LURK
>before you post to get an idea of the level of discussion. Read the
>FAQ. Etc.
>
>Bart this is so Nick burns-like. Some people dont have the time you do company
>computer guy.
In case you didn't UNDERSTAND it, I repeat:
>>EVERY guide to the internet always says the same
I'm not talking about 1000+ page books. I'm talking about two page
articles entitled "what is usenet". I'm talking about the manual you
get when you subscribe to an ISP. People know damn well they're
clueless idiots most of the time, but in this day and age they abuse
political correctness to "have the right to be stupid". Sorry, but I
won't be part of that.
Think the kitchen's too hot? Get the fuck out or adapt. Wanna play
with the big guys? Better bring your protective gear.
>Some people
>just want a answer to their question. They may be lazy in your eyes
They ARE lazy. No discussion. If you want the lyrics to a song really
badly: GO FIND THEM. Don't wait for anyone to do it for you.
>but some
>people dont want a asshole remark just because their question might have been
>answered back in 1993 "Oh you dont know the FAQ?? What are you STUUUPID?/?
>MOOOOOOOVE!!"
See above for my remark on "EVERY guide to the inetrnet always says
the same". If you don't know the rules: NOT MY FUCKING PROBLEM.
>They are stupid because they dont search a topic? What if the subject doesnt
>come up they are looking for because its too dated and its been deleted from
>deja or whereever?? Or what if it comes up with hundreds of matches for that
>word? What if they only have limited time? You dont have the answer for that
>and thats why I say easy Nick Burns....
"what if, what if..." EACH TIME I provide PROOF that it was EASY to
find the solution.
"What if they only have limited time?" The BIGGEST LIE of them all.
NOTHING is faster than going to a search engine and looking for it
yourself. At least do that effort before wasting other people's time.
Here's a DARE to AMP: if the lot of you are so concerned about
treating newbies well, how about starting to give somethign back
yourself? The pattern is always the same: wait for Bart to take the
bait, then react after he's posted. And the few times that people
actually post anything, guess what? They're usually WRONG.
>NOwhere did I mention you in my ulco bed post. You came crashing thru
Wait. You post something ona PUBLIC forum and then complain about
getting a reaction?
>and I
>witnessed firsthand how deillusional you really are.
*I* am?
>If I remember correctly
>you attacked everything I said and even had the lunatic side to post the same
>type of tangent on okayplayer.com.
CORRECTION. I *first* posted on prince.org after someone mentioned it
in a thread. NEXT I went to okayplayer.com and posted it there. THEN I
come here and find you have posted the SAME SHIT here too.
> Just because you are addicted to being
>right.
No, because YOU took it upon yourself to add your piece to the Prince
mythology. Just like all those people posting their stupid theories on
bootlegs ("well I know Prince leaks them").
>I already said you were right.
But you didn't mean it. And before you admitted I was right, you
decided to post a character assassination (just liek you did in this
post), to lessen the impact of me being right.
Because heaven forbids that YOU would look like the total ass (=
donkey) you proved yourself to be.
Bart Van Hemelen
Is prince ULCO BED on Candy Dulfer albums?":
>Since you want to do everything by the book a little advice ...
>
> PRACTICE what you preach.
1. Where does it say that I "want to do everything by the book"?
2. My posts are a REACTION. If people "followed the rules", used their
minds, etc, I wouldn't do it.
So again you get to look like a fool, because instead of addressing
the problem at the root, you try to remedy the symptoms.
JunieMorrison
You are getting after somebody for not following the rules of net newsgroup
discussion. Thats what you said whether it has to do with following all of the
rules. You are just singling some out that newbies dont. But thats hypocritical
>2. My posts are a REACTION. If people "followed the rules", used their
>minds, etc, I wouldn't do it.
But you dont yourself follow the rules you are just as worse as the people you
accuse. Slaggin them off calling them names is more worse than somebody who
asks a question that has already been covered or can be "RESEARCHED!!" as you
say it.
>you try to remedy the symptoms.
>
Im not a doctor Bart Im just saying you are rather hypocritical. Follow the
rules.. why should they if you dont?
JunieMorrison
>Hass, stop taking drugs. (Or start taking them again.) Learn the
>difference between personality and mood. The difference between
>coincidence and pattern.
Bart hate to say it but you never have had a psychoanalyze session with Prince.
So you cant diagnose he isnt "moody" That is rather silly. You stop taking PCP
its making your "mood "switch to nonsense. It really is its not factual. Its a
LOOSE thread.
>And once again Hass starts making up stuff because he knows he is
>losing this argument.
Losing what arguement? I said you were right. There is no argument Im telling
you that you are a straight hypocrite for telling people to follow the rules of
a net newsgroup when you dont either by singling out rules.
>Hass, how about CONCRETE examples instead of
>these vague, unsubstantiated claims? Oh wait, I know why: THERE ARE
>NONE.
How about you realize your evidence isnt facts but rumors. Rumors sometimes
cant be disproven but its far from a fact what you say. You arent a reporter
you play one on the net tho. That would make a good Tv commercial
>I used Altavista, a
>simple, plain search engine. Google.com is also good. Used by millions
>of people each day to... LOOK UP STUFF.
And I told you...I dont use altvista. I use different tools to get the
information Im looking for. I use different options that all.
>Hass, how about CONCRETE examples instead of these vague,
>unsubstantiated claims?
Okay you say prince is all about the money. You argue this nonstop for no
reason at all. Theres no way to figure out if hes all for the money or the
music. Because you dont know him you only know stories. Its not a real
reaction. Its a perception. Please stop with the peyote and listening to prince
while you surf the web. Its clouding your perception.
>ask questions that seem reasonable". But are they?
Not in your mind Bart no. And thats the problem. You cant fathom why a "newbie"
would not know what you know. And that is the whole thing right there. I said
this already
>Ten minutes ago I had an account exec at my desk yelling at me for
>screwing up the password to the intranet we had made for a client.
>Guess what?
Im not saying you arent intelligent. Im saying this isnt a business its a
discussion board and some people are not as adapt to you at things you know.
Some people have a hard time with their computer as well.
> I also have to support older projects (about a
>dozen, each with their own quirks), etc. I can do this, yet he has
>problems rememebring basic stuff (which he can look up easily by
>himself anyway).
So this makes you Hal supercomputer in 2001?? So what he doesnt have the skill
you do. Maybe you should be the one in charge. So apply for the job. God what
does that have to do with you being a anal retentive asshole to people you dont
know?
>Plus: you'd be amazed at how many times I have been called to an
>urgent job which in the end involves plugging in an electric cable.
>
Thats a little different when it comes to Prince matters. Basically they are
questions not tech equip problems. You arent on the meter on amp. So dont even
go there.
>Why do you continue to celebrate total incompetence
That is a overstatement and you know that. Thats the problem you post too
bombastic of people you dont know.
>Why do
>you insists that when dumb people enter the room, automatically the
>conversation should dumb down
Heres a thought...dont reply to them
>Prince, it is the FACT that he rewrites his story, his past, to fit
>his new ideals.
Maybe hes deillusional theres not a crime in that. Some people come to mind
were like that "Howard Hughes" So WHAT
>He's also lied, made promises he had no intention of
>fulfilling, etc. All of these are backed by EVIDENCE.
And this shows hes not a reliable person. Hes a flake is basically what you are
saying. Alot of artists are. Theres no crime in that. You cant change somebodys
view
>when they
>went to the shows is less believable, less valuable than what Prince
>posted on his site.
>
Where does it say on npgonline its posted by prince? WHERE BART??
Answer:Nowhere! Thats just a deduction. What if it isnt prince and its Opnmind?
Theeres no way to tell unless you actually get the call from prince to say this
online on his website. So what if its endorsed by him maybe he likes people
talkin in riddles like gandalf. But Im sorry chief its not factual. Once again
its a LOOSE thread.
>Pathetic... I am ALONE. I base my posts on what others have posted,
>yes, but also on a ton of other things. Why do you CONTINUE to LIE,
>Hass?
Theres that word again. How is it lying? Uptown is help. Media websites are
help. Web Cohorts are help. I beg to differ you are not alone. Thats not a lie
far from it.
>Yet again the low road because you cannot win the argument.
Im not trying to win Im showing that you really cant face up to being a crab
to people for no reason at all because its a quirk with you. Thats the humor
in the whole thing. Ive already said you were right and I keep saying it. And
you know what? This proves how deillusional you are.
>I don't have to find them. They're IN YOUR FACE. But YOU chose to
>ignore them, base theories on half the facts because the other half
>doesn't fit.
Where did I say prince doesnt make mistakes? If you RESEARCHED I said we all
make mistakes. How does that make him a bad person? Answer for the daily
double:IT DOESNT!
>This is what I accused you of in the first place in this
>thread: that you went out of your way to find evidence that Ulco Bed
>was Prince, clinged on to every useless bit of info ("it's an anagram
>of could be!", "dave stewart is on the disc!") and ignored anything
>that disproved your theory.
I didnt ignore everything. I had doubts thats why I put a question to it in the
posts. If I saw a bio pic on a website that means nothing to me. Because John
Lurie had a shady picture on his website with a guy with a turban that looked
like it was from the early 40's. But the guy didnt exist and he fooled alot
people with his promotion campaign.
>All the things you accuse me of (but
>cannot prove since there IS NO PROOF) are true of YOU, of YOUR post.
I never wanted to disprove you. Im just saying these people who ask stupid
questions just because they dont know doesnt mean they are beneath you. Why
dont you skip over their posts?? Thats a sickness...
>Why do you continue to ignore major personality flaws in Prince's
>character that are CLEARLY having an influence on his work?
>
Im not ignoring anything. Im saying hes a human. What are you gonna disagree
with that? What is he a evil leprechaun from MPLS? "Ah you got me music but I
got me masters and me gold haha to you fans" You might have some research on
that next week so strike that "Rumor" oh im sorry" fact" about prince being a
evil leprechaun.
>usually the
>sign of someone desperately losing the discussion.
Losing what??Im telling you are being a bitchy crab to people who dont deserve
it. Everybody sees it.
> You know who you
>sound like? George Costanza, desperate to "win" the fight but out of
>his depth, and thus resorting to stupid, childish insults.
They arent insults per se. And to be Van Halen thats quite a compliment I didnt
say whether you were eddie or alex tho. So thats kind of up in the air. See
bart I have fun with this. On the other hand you just post manical tangents to
people you dont even know. I am a prime example of that. I have witnessed that
first hand. And that bart is scary....
>He ENDORSES it, doesn't he? The things I refer to are in the section
>of the site that is EXPLICITELY announced on his site as STRAIGHT FROM
>THE HORSE'S MOUTH
Just because he endorses it doesnt mean he types it. Basically bart Im just
saying there isnt factual hence it is loose. And if you argue that then just
realize theres no way to tell unless you are the one typing the message prince
is dictating you to type it. And no way are you in a position to say its
FACTUAL. He probably does but to straight out say those are his words. Does he
sign his posts with "PRINCE"?? On okayplayer.com people usually sign at the
bottom but this is rather cryptic. And since his fans seem to take on so many
prince traits its hard line to distinguish.
> If it's there, it's OFFICIAL. No stupid excuses
>like "well he doesn't type it". NOT the point, and you know it.
Maybe he thinks its a good parody of himself. Bart Im not saying you arent
right Im just saying from the standpoint of you talking about "Loose"threads.
This is a definite example of what you are so against.
>Instead of theorizing, GIVE SOME EXAMPLES.
Okay for one: you are assuming prince is writing messages on Npgonline because
he endorses it. Well alot fan official sites are endorsed without people
actually typing their thoughts in. They just think its cool.
Two: Prince isnt really saying much its cryptic language that usually has to be
decoded. Which is probably his form of entertainment.
>And AGAIN you take the low road... I don't need to know because I CAN
>LOOK IT UP:
Okay Bart that was a easy one. who is the alias for Oryn Project on mp3.com?
You wont find that on alt.vista but if you knew someplace else you could find
it. The point is I know who...and to me its knowledge but I dont look down on
people who dont know what I know thats just silly.
> knows deep
>in their hearts that I WAS RIGHT.
This sounds like a broken record. Nobody is saying you arent right you are just
proving you are alaskan king crab. Just put your clampers in somebodys
direction who deserves it. God what is it like living with you.
> I got interested in Sly Stone a long time ago, and
>instead of whining on a mailing list of posting in a ng, I went out
>and used a search engine to locate stuff. I went to libraries and did
>research. Etc.
And this means?? You research good for you.
>Especially in a
>ng that isn't exactly helpful.
Helpful is blasting at people because they dont have altvista sorcery spells. I
mean cmon...
>If you don't know how to use a search engine, get off the web.
Technically this isnt the web Im posting thru a net newsgroup on a message
board on aol. So you know...just thought Id point that out. This was here
before the web was designed. I like using this better because its faster to
pull up things I need. But thats a preference it doesnt make me stupid.
>Do I throw insults about? YES. At people who deserve it: the lazy
>bums, the stupid think they know it alls.
Ive seen you toss people about who arent regular posters over nothing and its
like what kind of psychosis drugs did you take for that net reaction to occur??
> You pretend this here is a
>civilised discussion, but instead all you do is post some nonsense,
>mixed with unsubstantiated allegations.
It wasnt civilized the second you posted on this thread. You said I ruined my
reputation and had a "IDIOTIC post" Sorry but you cant make that claim in amp
now.
Wait a minute unsubstantiated allegations?? You mean like you saying what
Prince said? Even tho it didnt come out of his mouth and is just some cryptic
text on his site? Sorry to break it to you but what you say is unsubstantiated
allegations. NOWHERE on npgonline does it say on the bottom of the journal
entries "SIGNED by his royal badness,Prince"
And that makes it what? Say it in unison "UNSUBSTANTIATED allegation"
>Think the kitchen's too hot? Get the fuck out or adapt. Wanna play
>with the big guys? Better bring your protective gear.
>
This isnt a warzone you are deillusional. Who are you now General patton?
>They ARE lazy. No discussion. If you want the lyrics to a song really
>badly: GO FIND THEM. Don't wait for anyone to do it for yo
Thats not all they asked bart some people dont deserve what you say to them.
You wanna talk about "rules and regulations" on the net. You arent following
some by disrespecting people on a forum. THATS a fact. And to you I say Look it
up You cant single out rules and have it your way if you are gonna bring up
"regulations" Because you are surely not following them
> If you don't know the rules: NOT MY FUCKING PROBLEM.
>
Again with the rules? Tell me bart do you think its any different if you dont
follow a rule for nettiquette?? No it isnt RULES are Rules. Again Im going by
your logic now. Try using some of the medicine you spoon to people at
yourself. Your in need of some heavy doses on respect RULES on net forums.
>And the few times that people
>actually post anything, guess what? They're usually WRONG.
And this makes you proud Lord of the righteous royal scepter. You have this big
quirk about being "Right"
>Wait. You post something ona PUBLIC forum and then complain about
>getting a reaction?
You could have said "no that isnt right just search alt.vista" but you had to
post paragraphs. That was weird to me. It showed me you have deillusional
traits.
>I* am?
Not many would argue with that how many times have you insulted people over
nothing?? Too many times to count.
>CORRECTION. I *first* posted on prince.org after someone mentioned it
>in a thread. NEXT I went to okayplayer.com and posted it there. THEN I
>come here and find you have posted the SAME SHIT here too
What are you the Security Guard of the net?? Thats another example of being
deillusional
>But you didn't mean it.
Thats the talk of a spoiled child
I do mean it. You are right and if you think I dont mean it thats your problem.
>Because heaven forbids that YOU would look like the total ass (=
>donkey) you proved yourself to be.
>
Total ass donkey? Bart you definitely have that title to your name as well
after blowing up this thread over what. "you didnt mean it" You act like such a
stubborn child. You are right. god how many times can somebody say it. Dont
come at me "you didnt mean it" THATS hillarious. Character assassination? You
came at me amigo. I didnt go gunning for you. Factual and actual...
>. You know who you
>sound like? George Costanza, desperate to "win" the fight but out of
>his depth, and thus resorting to stupid, childish insults.
Let me say this another example of your deillusional. What fight? You are
losing some depth in reality. All I wanted to know in this thread was if Ulco
Bed was really a alias or not. GET over yourself Im not battling with a
raving deillusional crab. You seriously need to be put in a steamer.
PS...you are right
Bart Van Hemelen
Is prince ULCO BED on Candy Dulfer albums?":
>Okay you say prince is all about the money. You argue this nonstop for no
>reason at all.
Keep burying your head in the sand...
How about you start READING what I write, instead of making it up in
your main? READ what I wrote on the hit n run tour
(http://pr1nc3.com/opinion/hitnrun.asp).
If you STILL don't get it after that, well, you're hopeless and not
half as smart as you pretend you are.
My point is VERY simple: that Prince's greed is ruining his music and
his career. If you think I'm wrong, PROVE me wrong. But not with the
kind of tactics I discuss further on (which basically involves you
ignoring any evidence for the most ridiculous of reasons, yet using
the same evidence to rpove your point).
> Theres no way to figure out if hes all for the money
Lemme see: besides the countless variations on "I'm number one at the
bank" or him defending a record by saying that "he made more money off
of it than any of his WB albums except PR" or his post on the plans
with Rave which concerned ONE thing and ONE thing ONLY (mo' money),
let me remind you of this:
http://www.npgonlineltd.com/paisleynews.html
###################################
November 15, 2000:
FAIRFAX
word around the PATRIOT CENTER in Fairfax iz that the HIT N' RUN show
there on November 10 was the highest grossing show in the building's
history! Ain't that sumthin'! :)
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>Because you dont know him you only know stories.
No, I know him through interviews, through his site, through his
music, through his ACTIONS. And since I've been paying way more
attentiont hat you...
>Its a perception.
Of cours eit is. But so far NOBODY has yet foudn any way to disprove
what I'm saying, and Prince's actions CONFIRM what I'm saying. Just
look at the above post, and then look at what I wrote in my opinion
piece: I PREDICTED the post!
>Not in your mind Bart no. And thats the problem. You cant fathom why a "newbie"
>would not know what you know.
I was one once upon a time too. And I did NOT behave like these
people.
> Im not saying you arent intelligent. Im saying this isnt a business its a
>discussion board and some people are not as adapt to you at things you know.
>Some people have a hard time with their computer as well.
THEIR problem not ours. WE shouldn't be DUMBING DOWN because the
rest's too slow.
>>Why do you continue to celebrate total incompetence
>
>That is a overstatement and you know that.
Is it? Here's something posted here just hours ago:
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Here's what newpower...@aol.com (NewPowerPartyMan) told
"alt.music.prince" on 03 Dec 2000 21:23:48 GMT on the subject of "Help
With Song Please":
>i downloaded earthquake by graham central station...does anyone know where this
>is available on cd?
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I mean... COME ON!!!!!
>>Why do
>>you insists that when dumb people enter the room, automatically the
>>conversation should dumb down
>
>Heres a thought...dont reply to them
The they come back. And again. And again.
>Where does it say on npgonline its posted by prince? WHERE BART??
http://www.npgonlineltd.com/paisleynews.html
Then choose "back". Then read: "PAISLEY TRANSMISSIONS - News straight
from Paisley Park".
>Answer:Nowhere! Thats just a deduction. What if it isnt prince and its Opnmind?
Doesn't matter. It's the OFFICIAL news.
>Theeres no way to tell unless you actually get the call from prince to say this
>online on his website. So what if its endorsed by him maybe he likes people
>talkin in riddles like gandalf. But Im sorry chief its not factual. Once again
>its a LOOSE thread.
BULLSHIT and you know it.
>Where did I say prince doesnt make mistakes? If you RESEARCHED I said we all
>make mistakes. How does that make him a bad person?
There's a difference between mistakes and lies. He knew FULLY WELL in
August (when he made those "tour promises") that none of them would
come through. That's not a mistake, that's a LIE.
>I didnt ignore everything. I had doubts
You had DOUBTS? Your ENTIRE post was one that said "all evidence point
to it". Which I disproved in one simple post.
>If I saw a bio pic on a website that means nothing to me. Because John
>Lurie had a shady picture on his website with a guy with a turban that looked
>like it was from the early 40's. But the guy didnt exist and he fooled alot
>people with his promotion campaign.
And AGAIN: this has got NOTHING to do with Prince. Bob Sinclair's
promo pics also don't show him, and it's still not PROOF that you
could be right.
>Just because he endorses it doesnt mean he types it.
Not the point and you know it.
>> If it's there, it's OFFICIAL. No stupid excuses
>>like "well he doesn't type it". NOT the point, and you know it.
>
>Maybe he thinks its a good parody of himself.
Now WHO is assuming anything here? Do you have ANY proof of this?
>Okay Bart that was a easy one. who is the alias for Oryn Project on mp3.com?
It's O'ryn, not Oryn. And I don't know. I remember reading about it,
though...
>You wont find that on alt.vista but if you knew someplace else you could find
>it. The point is I know who...and to me its knowledge but I dont look down on
>people who dont know what I know thats just silly.
Once again, it's not about KNOWING it's about TRYING. What I say is
that there's plenty of info out there, so why don't people try looking
for it themselves first? What I react to is LAZINESS.
>Helpful is blasting at people because they dont have altvista sorcery spells.
Is it that much to ask to read ONE page?
http://doc.altavista.com/help/search/search_cheat.html
>It wasnt civilized the second you posted on this thread. You said I ruined my
>reputation and had a "IDIOTIC post" Sorry but you cant make that claim in amp
>now.
Your post was idiotic and I proved it was. Simple as that.
>Wait a minute unsubstantiated allegations?? You mean like you saying what
>Prince said? Even tho it didnt come out of his mouth and is just some cryptic
>text on his site? Sorry to break it to you but what you say is unsubstantiated
>allegations. NOWHERE on npgonline does it say on the bottom of the journal
>entries "SIGNED by his royal badness,Prince"
See above...
>And that makes it what? Say it in unison "UNSUBSTANTIATED allegation"
Keep dreaming. Just ignore everything that doesn't fir your
viewpoint... Just keep pretending I'm wrong because I'm Bart...
>Again with the rules? Tell me bart do you think its any different if you dont
>follow a rule for nettiquette?? No it isnt RULES are Rules. Again Im going by
>your logic now. Try using some of the medicine you spoon to people at
>yourself. Your in need of some heavy doses on respect RULES on net forums.
And more specifically:
http://members.aol.com/godwithgun/newbie.htm#2
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2: so what gets me flamed around here?
stupidity. that's the number one killer of usenet. many of the
people that make up alt.music.nin are, shall we say, less than
tolerant of things less than intelligent.
[...]
the bottom line is, the best way to learn is to lurk (read for awhile
without posting) and take note of what the people who get flamed do.
if you are looking to avoid it, avoid their behavior!
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>>And the few times that people
>>actually post anything, guess what? They're usually WRONG.
>
>And this makes you proud Lord of the righteous royal scepter. You have this big
>quirk about being "Right"
WTF? You are now endorsing MISINFORMATION???
>You could have said "no that isnt right just search alt.vista" but you had to
>post paragraphs.
1. YOU posted a number of paragraphs. All I did was reply to EACH of
your stupid allegations.
>It showed me you have deillusional
>traits.
Have you read YOUR first post?
>Character assassination? You
>came at me amigo. I didnt go gunning for you. Factual and actual...
Hass, BULLSHIT and you know. You desperately tried to dismiss my reply
based on completely unrelated stuff. You continue to defend your
original post, despite me proving at length that it's based on stupid
stuff. You've contradicted yourself dozens of times (for one: claiming
that liner notes are unreliable, yet failing to see that your ENTIRE
post is based on a cursory -- not even detailed -- reading of liner
notes, spliced together with some very feeble connections and ignoring
any evidence to the contary).