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Robert P Holley

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Apr 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/8/97
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Phipps wrote:
>
> With the release of the Holy River Video, I think the Artist's fate has
> been determined-in my mind anyway. This song, to be released as a
> single for promotion is a major marketing flaw, unless his target market
> is only 30's+. What happened to his funkin' grouve that was prevalent
> up until the symbol album? Has he and all you loyal fans gone off the
> deep end? I couldn't help but to laugh when every one of you praised
> Gold Experience when it was released! It was his worst work to date
> until he released Chaos and Disorder. I will admit I am fond of "a few"
> of the tracks on Emancipation, but not enough to warrant it's purchase.
> Come-on BOSS!!! Now that you are free, try to push the limits of your
> professional envelope. Get Michael B. and Sonny T. back in the lineup.
> Let's face it; Pop-Rock is dead. The Artist should use his creative
> synth programming ability to realize an Electro-Funk revolution. The
> music industry is a solid social infrastructure, and The Artist is "the
> BOMB" that could rip it open!
>
> Just a few thoughts I'm sure many of you are not willing to admit.
>
> Mark

Mark,

Please understand that if we happen to disagree, it doesn't mean we're
afraid to "admit it". It just means we disagree.

--
Robert P Holley

"U Don't Love Me, *munch* U're a Faker,
*munch* U Just Want Me 4 My Acres."

Phipps

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Apr 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/8/97
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Patrick/Pro

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Apr 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/9/97
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On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Hyperpessimist wrote:

> The Ur-Vile [BaNe] wrote:
> > If your gonna
> > label one of his albums 'worst', mabye the Black Album would work.
> > But TGE? That's crazy. TGE is FunkE ;) nuff said. peace

> The black album is his BEST EVER as far as I'm concerned. Gold Experience
> is way down the list as far as I'm concerned. Am I crazy? Hell no! :-)

> later

> h.

Opinions... Preferences... we all have em.
I don't think The Black Album compares to
the Gold Experience by a long shot. I
only really got into 2 songs: Rock Hard...
and Superfunkcalifragisexy.

But hey, I just like that NPG sound.
A lot of the old synth stuff I'm just now
beginning to appreciate, because I really
couldn't "feel" it. I can appreciate the
unique sound, but I like to be able to
feel and relate to it. Perfect example
(for me and many) -- "Purple Rain" or
"Computer Blue" or "Love 2 the 9's".

I guess it just depends on personality.
Some people prefer the more chaotic stuff;
some prefer the more tranquil stuff.
It also may depend on what you grew up on
and what you're into in general. If you
like 2 dance, "Human Body" may be for you.
If you feel ruled over, "Face Down" may do it.

I think O(+> is at least 1 of the best.
At the same time I like C&D which is quite
a contrast except 4 maybe "into the light"/
"i will." There's so much music to appreciate.
I wouldn't waste my time beating a "poor"
piece of music into the ground because I
personally didn't like it.

P & L,
Patrick
--
"If the only thing that tells is Father Time,
then sacrifice is a mutha sublime. We Love it."
Prince, "The Sacrifice of Victor"
--

The Ur-Vile [BaNe]

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Apr 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/9/97
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Phipps wrote:
>
> With the release of the Holy River Video, I think the Artist's fate has
> been determined-in my mind anyway. This song, to be released as a
> single for promotion is a major marketing flaw, unless his target market
> is only 30's+. What happened to his funkin' grouve that was prevalent
> up until the symbol album? Has he and all you loyal fans gone off the
> deep end? I couldn't help but to laugh when every one of you praised
> Gold Experience when it was released! It was his worst work to date

<snip>

You don't like it. fine. But his worst to date!?!?!?!? Man,
this is the album that made me a 0(+> fan for life. My favorite
album of all time. The album that can make me cry. If your gonna

Hyperpessimist

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Apr 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/9/97
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The Ur-Vile [BaNe] wrote:
>
> If your gonna
> label one of his albums 'worst', mabye the Black Album would work.
> But TGE? That's crazy. TGE is FunkE ;) nuff said. peace

The black album is his BEST EVER as far as I'm concerned. Gold Experience

Dr. Phunkenstine

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Apr 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/9/97
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actually, you might benefit by seeing a therapist.....the blaack album
over TGE?...a couple of good songs over a solid albums worth of rock-funk?
I know a good psycho-therapist...want his number?

On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Hyperpessimist wrote:

------------
The Doctor
We are the children of concrete and steel,
This is the place where the truth is concealed.
Now is the time that the lie is revealed,
Everything is possible but nothing is real.
-V. Reid


staby

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Apr 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/10/97
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Phipps <phi...@tyenet.com> wrote in article <334ABC...@tyenet.com>...


> With the release of the Holy River Video, I think the Artist's fate has
> been determined-in my mind anyway. This song, to be released as a
> single for promotion is a major marketing flaw, unless his target market
> is only 30's+. What happened to his funkin' grouve that was prevalent
> up until the symbol album? Has he and all you loyal fans gone off the
> deep end? I couldn't help but to laugh when every one of you praised
> Gold Experience when it was released! It was his worst work to date

> until he released Chaos and Disorder. I will admit I am fond of "a few"
> of the tracks on Emancipation, but not enough to warrant it's purchase.
> Come-on BOSS!!! Now that you are free, try to push the limits of your
> professional envelope. Get Michael B. and Sonny T. back in the lineup.
> Let's face it; Pop-Rock is dead. The Artist should use his creative
> synth programming ability to realize an Electro-Funk revolution. The
> music industry is a solid social infrastructure, and The Artist is "the
> BOMB" that could rip it open!
>
> Just a few thoughts I'm sure many of you are not willing to admit.
>
> Mark
>

Even idiots are entitled to an opinion.

Phipps

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Apr 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/10/97
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And I guess that's why you are stating yours; nothing to say, useless...

Johnny Johnson

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Apr 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/11/97
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In article <334D50...@tyenet.com>, phi...@tyenet.com wrote:

@staby wrote:
@>
@> Phipps <phi...@tyenet.com> wrote in article <334ABC...@tyenet.com>...
@> > With the release of the Holy River Video, I think the Artist's fate has
@> > been determined-in my mind anyway. This song, to be released as a
@> > single for promotion is a major marketing flaw, unless his target market
@> > is only 30's+. What happened to his funkin' grouve that was prevalent
@> > up until the symbol album? Has he and all you loyal fans gone off the
@> > deep end? I couldn't help but to laugh when every one of you praised
@> > Gold Experience when it was released! It was his worst work to date
@> > until he released Chaos and Disorder. I will admit I am fond of "a few"
@> > of the tracks on Emancipation, but not enough to warrant it's purchase.
@> > Come-on BOSS!!! Now that you are free, try to push the limits of your
@> > professional envelope. Get Michael B. and Sonny T. back in the lineup.
@> > Let's face it; Pop-Rock is dead. The Artist should use his creative
@> > synth programming ability to realize an Electro-Funk revolution. The
@> > music industry is a solid social infrastructure, and The Artist is "the
@> > BOMB" that could rip it open!
@> >
@> > Just a few thoughts I'm sure many of you are not willing to admit.
@> >
@> > Mark
@> >
@>
@> Even idiots are entitled to an opinion.
@
@And I guess that's why you are stating yours; nothing to say, useless...


Go ahead and flame the man bringin' da' truth!!

Emancipation was an alright album!! When I first listened to it, I thought
it was incredible. After I listened to the CD for a couple of days, I
realized that I had about a half of a CD of cool music ..out of 3 CDS at
30 bucks!!

Prince (thats what his mama named him) is capable of producin' better
music!! He does need to drop the pop-rock bullsh*t. Prince needs to go
back to his roots...FUNK!!

Come ..it sucked!!
Gold..it sucked!!!
Chaos and Disorder..it really sucked!!

What do they have in common..nothing to really groove to!!

Emancipation has a couple of funky tunes ..and the record sales and the
reviews proved that point. If Prince concentrated his efforts into funk,
he would retake the music world and blow away all that crappy alternative
and rap bullshi*t.

John Johnson

The Ur-Vile [BaNe]

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Apr 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/11/97
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Johnny Johnson wrote

> Gold..it sucked!!!

I cringe everytime I hear someone say this. Hell, I cringe everytime
I hear <This 0(+> album> sucks. NO 0(+> ALBUM SUCKS!!!! period.
Some are a lot better than others, but I can't think of any album
of his that I don't like at least one song from.

peace.

Robert P Holley

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Apr 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/12/97
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Johnny Johnson wrote:
> Prince (thats what his mama named him) is capable of producin' better
> music!! He does need to drop the pop-rock bullsh*t. Prince needs to go
> back to his roots...FUNK!!
>
> Come ..it sucked!!
> Gold..it sucked!!!
> Chaos and Disorder..it really sucked!!

Jeeze, if I listened to an artist and felt his last three albums sucked,
I don't think I'd be a fan for long. Or even spending time in his
newsgroup.

Phipps

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Apr 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/14/97
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Let's hope the term "sucks" isn't a part of your vocabulary. If it is,
your packing a double-standard. Have some netiquette, and refrain from
flaming a dude for his use of words with regards to certain albums.
Let's face it, some of his albums do suck: Gold
Chaos
Emancipation (most of)

Let's face it, we are all entitled to an opinion. If you think that
browning up to The Man-no matter what he does-is going to get you
somewhere, your dreaming. For a change, somebody agreed with me in this
group! I've ceased to buy Nelson's new material without a detailed
listen first. It's come to this my friends.

Mark

Tricky

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Apr 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/15/97
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Phipps wrote:
>
> The Ur-Vile [BaNe] wrote:
> >
> > Johnny Johnson wrote
> >
> > > Gold..it sucked!!!
> >
> > I cringe everytime I hear someone say this. Hell, I cringe everytime
> > I hear <This 0(+> album> sucks. NO 0(+> ALBUM SUCKS!!!! period.
> > Some are a lot better than others, but I can't think of any album
> > of his that I don't like at least one song from.
> >
> > peace.
>
> Let's hope the term "sucks" isn't a part of your vocabulary. If it is,
> your packing a double-standard. Have some netiquette, and refrain from
> flaming a dude for his use of words with regards to certain albums.
> Let's face it, some of his albums do suck: Gold
> Chaos
> Emancipation (most of)

Let's not face it. It's only your opinion, and a pathetically
underdeveloped one at that.

> Let's face it, we are all entitled to an opinion.

Apparently, that entitlement is not merit-based :)

> If you think that
> browning up to The Man-no matter what he does-is going to get you
> somewhere, your dreaming.

Why is it that someone who still likes the music is "browning
up to the Man"? Maybe Ur-Vile just likes the music.

> For a change, somebody agreed with me in this
> group! I've ceased to buy Nelson's new material without a detailed
> listen first. It's come to this my friends.

We'll definitely go into mourning over this news...

Tricky

The Ur-Vile [BaNe]

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Apr 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/15/97
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Phipps wrote:

> Let's face it, some of his albums do suck: Gold
> Chaos
> Emancipation (most of)
>

whatever. Replace "some of his albums do suck" with "I don't care
for these albums" and you have it. And anyone that says Gold
sucks I think is crazy. I can't ever conceive someone
labeling the album that made me a 0(+> fan for life something
that sucks. Mabye your definition of "sucks" is different than
mine.

...ugh, I gotta go... I'll continue this later. peace.

The Ur-Vile [BaNe]

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Apr 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/15/97
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Tricky wrote:
>
>
> Why is it that someone who still likes the music is "browning
> up to the Man"? Maybe Ur-Vile just likes the music.

> Tricky

Replace like w/ love, and you've hit it on the button ;)
And for what reason would I be brownnosing (question to
previous poster bfore Tricky)? Like 0(+> is gonna visit
me here in Centralia for posting that I think TGE is the
best... although I wouldn't mind it if the man proved me
wrong (he,he,he). peace.

Stefan Manzow

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Apr 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/18/97
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Robert P Holley <holl...@voicenet.com> schrieb im Beitrag
<334FF5...@voicenet.com>...
> He what do you know anyway?
This has written the most songs and has the courage to do what he likes not
what you expect from him there is only one question to ask"When is he going
to tour the world again?"
Can anybody give me an answer?
Stefan R. Manzow

the dawn

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Apr 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/19/97
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The Ur-Vile [BaNe] <ur-...@geocities.com> wrote in article
<3353C7...@geocities.com>...

u are damn straight -- gold got me re-hooked after 7.

dave

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...aint it kinda funny when u see the dawn... 0(+>

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