XENOPHOBIA CELEBRATION REPORT w/ACCURATE SETLISTS [LONG]
Harold Lewis
DAY ONE: June 21, 2002
DAYTIME ACTIVITIES AT PAISLEY PARK: Clinic/Q&A session in Studio B with Femi
Jiya and Joe Lepinski (Prince's personal recording engineers). This was VERY
interesting. For those that don't know, Studio B was where Prince recorded
Sign O' The Times. It is somewhat dated now technology-wise, so Prince now
uses the state-of-the-art Studio A (closed to fans unfortunately). This was
repeated twice, once in the morning and once in the afternoon. In between a
CD called One Nite Alone Live! was played in Studio B (consisted of various
portions of several ONA Tour shows, including Portland and Indianapolis).
Another CD entitled It Ain't Over was also played throughout the week, which
I believe was the aftershow performance from The World nightclub in New York
City. One Night Alone was also played occasionally during the week.
This was also the only day that the majority of Paisley Park was open to the
fans. People were allowed to wander around more or less on their own.
However, security cameras caught a couple of people trying to steal things
and access was restricted the rest of the week (we were only allowed into
Studio B, The Paisley Park Museum, the soundstage, dance rehearsal room, and
the NPG Music Club Room). Needless to say, the fact that a few people ruined
it for everyone was very disappointing.
The day was plagued by rain and severe thunderstorms (in fact, parts of
Minnesota experienced flooding) so the majority of the planned outside
activities never took place the first day (makeshift dance floor with DJ,
basketball, volleyball, other fun and games).
Each night Prince and Mani were often spotted walking around and watching
the opening acts from a couch at the rear of the soundstage.
OPENING ACT: Maceo Parker (9:05 p.m. to 11:00 p.m.; 115 minutes)
PRINCE: 11:45 p.m. to 2:20 a.m. (220 minutes)
SETLIST:
The Rainbow Children
Muse 2 The Pharaoh
Xenophobia
A Case of You
Mellow
1+1+1=3/Love Rollercoaster
The Ride/Alphabet St.
The Other Side of The Pillow
Strange Relationship
Sing A Simple Song (w/Larry Graham)
La, La, La Means I Love You
Didn't Cha Know
When You Were Mine
Avalanche
Family Name
Take Me With U
Raspberry Beret
The Everlasting Now
Joy In Repetition (Encore)
The first night of the Celebration was originally intended to be played at
the Orpheum Theater in downtown Minneapolis. However, it was moved at the
last minute due to "logistical problems," which was probably a fancy way of
saying that they didn't sell as many tickets as they had hoped (prices
ranged from $85 to $125 for the general public). Anyone who had bought
tickets to the Orpheum gig had to return their tickets through Ticketmaster
and purchase tickets at Paisley Park for $100.
The performance consisted of a regular One Nite Alone tour show as was
expected (great for the many foreign fans that had been unable to catch the
tour here in the States). Prince was in a wonderful and relaxed mood from
the very beginning and seemed to have a constant smile on his face. The
highlight was when he brought several fans onstage to dance during "1+1+1=3"
and "Love Rollercoaster." One fan from Japan was named Tuna, so Prince
obviously had a great time with that. At one point he said that Tuna had
better get funky or he was going to "Put him back in the can." The addition
of "The Ride" was a deviation from the planned set list, and was extremely
long and contained fantastic guitar work from Prince. He also added a few
lines from "Alphabet St." at the end. Prince had the audience sing the
entirety of "Raspberry Beret." The encore of "Joy In Repetition" was
phenomenal and lasted over 10 minutes.
DAY TWO: June 22, 2002
DAYTIME ACTIVITES AT PAISLEY PARK: Sheila E. drum clinic/Q&A session in the
NPG Music Club Room. Easily one of the best clinics. She still looks and
sounds great (her opening set in the evening was one of the most enjoyable
of the week) and was very approachable and nice to the fans.
OPENING ACT: Sheila E. (9:15 p.m. to 11:15 p.m.; 120 minutes)
PRINCE (June 23rd): 12:25 a.m. to 1:35 a.m. (70 minutes)
SETLIST:
The Rainbow Children (Instrumental)
Power Fantastic
Extraordinary
Here On Earth
With You
Pearls B4 The Swine (Instrumental)
The Ghetto (Cover)
Sweet Baby
When The Lights Go Down
Strollin'
Gotta Broken Heart Again
You've Got A Friend (w/Sheila E.; Cover of James Taylor tune)
Pop Life (Encore)
One word describes the second evening at Paisley Park: HOT! And I'm not
referring to just the performances, which were scorching all night. The
intense thunderstorms from the day before managed to flood the air
conditioning system in the soundstage area; this was combined with nearly
1,000 attendees and high humidity (which caused condensation to form on the
floor and made it extremely slippery). After Sheila E's fantastic set,
Takumi (Prince's guitar technician) announced that everyone would have to
leave the soundstage area for about 20 minutes so they could attempt to dry
the floor. Needless to say, this upset many people who had waited in line
for several hours to obtain the best spots closer to the stage. Everyone was
fairly cooperative, however, as they filed out in to the PP parking lot.
After a half hour or so everyone was let back in. As people were filing in
Prince and the NPG were already onstage playing an instrumental version of
"The Rainbow Children." Several minutes went by before they continued, even
though many fans were still not inside. I would describe the general theme
of the second performance as "Prince: The Lounge Singer." It was one of the
most laidback performances of the week and Prince spent most of the evening
playing piano (in fact, he didn't pick up a guitar all night). He apologized
several times to both the fans and Sheila for the problems with the air
conditioning, promising that it would be fixed and he would "take us all on
a date." Little did we know what that would mean until later!
Prince played some real gems that night and his vocals never sounded better.
"Gotta Broken Heart Again" was played for the first time since the Dirty
Mind tour in 1980-81. A cover of James Taylor's "You've Got A Friend" was
dedicated to Sheila E., who came out and sang a verse to the delight of
everyone. It was Prince's shortest performance of the Celebration at
approximately 70 minutes.
Prince mentioned a couple of times during the show that he was going to take
us all to a movie. He said we were going to go see Minority Report since it
had the word "minority" in it. No one thought he was actually serious until
the end of "Pop Life" when he told everyone to follow the white car (his
limousine) to the Chanhassen Theater down the street. So, a caravan of cars
made the two mile trek to the theater, where Prince had rented out three
screens for the attendees and the Paisley Park staff. He, Mani, and Sheila
E. also stayed for the movie (which didn't begin until 2:20 a.m.). What a
memorable experience and completely unexpected!
DAY THREE: June 23, 2002
DAYTIME ACTIVIES AT PAISLEY PARK: Discussion session with Tavis Smiley
(formerly of BET), Londell McMillan, Dr. Clarence West, and Michael Eric
Dyson. The topic was "Xenophobia" although they delved into a variety of
subjects. Femi Jiya and Joe Lepinski also held another clinic/Q&A session in
Studio B.
OPENING ACT: Victor Wooten (8:05 p.m. to 10:30 p.m.; 155 minutes)
PRINCE: 11:25 p.m. to 12:40 a.m. (75 minutes)
SETLIST:
Days of Wild (w/Larry Graham)
The Jam (w/Larry Graham)
Dolphin
Sign O' The Times
The Work, Part I
Paisley Park
Renato's Keyboard Solo
Peach/"It Ain't Over" Jam (w/Damon Dickson)
Everyone was relieved to feel that the air conditioning problem from the
night before had been solved. The third night's performance was very high
energy, especially compared to the evening before. Prince and the band
(including Kirk Johnson on percussion throughout and Larry Graham on bass
for the first two songs) marched into the soundstage Sign O' The Times-style
from the back to begin with a 15-minute version of "Days of Wild." "The Jam"
followed with Larry Graham on vocals and extensive solos by the musicians.
Things slowed down a bit with a mellow version of "Dolphin," which lead into
a funky new arrangement of "Sign O' The Times." "The Work, Pt. 1" was next,
followed by a rockin' version of "Paisley Park" (chorus sung by the fans).
Keyboardist Renato Neto soloed for a few minutes thereafter, before Prince
returned to the stage for "Peach." Several little kids were brought up
onstage during the latter, including Kirk Johnson's daughter. Prince lead
everyone in the chant of "It Ain't Over" as everyone marched out again; this
chant became the motto of the fans and Prince for each succeeding night and
was repeated numerous times.
DAY FOUR: June 24, 2002
DAYTIME ACTIVITIES AT PAISLEY PARK: Saxophone clinic/Q&A session by Maceo
Parker in the NPG Music Club Room. Londell McMillan led a discussion
regarding the state of the music industry afterwards.
OPENING ACT: Norah Jones (8 p.m. to 9:15 p.m.; 75 minutes)
PRINCE: Set #1 (9:45 p.m. to 10:45 p.m.; 60 minutes); Set #2 (10:55 p.m. to
11:40 p.m.; 45 minutes)
SETLIST #1 (ACOUSTIC):
Don't Play Me
Whole Lotta Love (Cover of Led Zepplin tune)
7
Tangerine
A Case Of You
Pink Cashmere
One Kiss At A Time
Alphabet St./Beverly Hillbillies Theme
Girls and Boys
(Sometimes I Feel Like A) Motherless Child (cover)
The Truth
"Guitar Playin' Man" Jam
The Other Side Of The Pillow
She Loves Me 4 Me
Peach/"It Ain't Over" Chant
Wherever U Go, Whatever U Do
Forever In My Life
Last December
SETLIST #2 (PLUGGED):
Take The A Train/Strollin' (Instrumental)
How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore?
Diamonds and Pearls
The Beautiful Ones
Free
Starfish and Coffee
Sometimes It Snows In April
I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore
Prince and the Band (New Song!)
Xenophobia/Bustin' Loose Chant
Prince's stepfather, Howard Baker, and half-brother Omar attended this show
and all of the subsequent nights.
A lot of fan's dreams came true when they figured out by the stage setup
that we were about to witness a very special night in Prince history: a
full-blown acoustic set (for the first time in his career)! The stage setup
consisted of a chair, Prince's acoustic guitar, and Kirk Johnson's conga
drums (he played on a few songs), and for most of the hour-long set Prince
was illuminated only by a solitary spotlight. Words do not do justice to
this performance (just look at the set list!) and it truly had to be heard
to believed. The so-called "Guitar Playin' Man" jam was hilarious and
featured Prince making up lyrics as he went along about how bothered he was
when he gets telephone calls from telemarketers and bill collectors. Kirk
Johnson's daughter came onstage to dance again during "Peach." Prince
allowed the audience to sing almost all of "Forever In My Life" and the
chorus to "Last December."
After about a 10-minute break, during which Renato tinkled the piano keys,
Prince and the NPG came onstage for a short "plugged" set. They started with
a jazz jam that seemed to mix "Take The A Train" and "Strollin'. He than
began a short piano segment before kicking in a swing/jazz jam called
"Prince and The Band." This is a new unreleased track as Prince rapped just
about all of the lyrics from a sheet while sitting behind his keyboards. It
features extensive soloing from the band members and the chorus of "C'Mon,
Clap Yo Hands.4 Prince and the Band!" The instrumental "Xenophobia" was the
encore and included the "Bustin' Loose" chant.
It was truly a magical night that those in attendance will never forget.
DAY FIVE: June 25, 2002
DAYTIME ACTIVITES AT PAISLEY PARK: Clinic/Q&A session by saxophonist Eric
Leeds and keyboardist Renato Neto in the NPG Music Club Room. Renato
mentioned that the band had rehearsed 25 new songs especially for the
Celebration.
OPENING ACT: Bernard Allison (8:15 p.m. to 9:20 p.m.; 65 minutes)
PRINCE: 10:30 p.m. to 12:25 a.m. (115 minutes)
SETLIST:
Prince Guitar Solo
Bambi
Whole Lotta Love (Cover of Led Zepplin tune)
Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)
The Question of U
The One
Jazz Jam
I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man
Ain't No Sunshine (Cover of Bill Withers tune)
She's Always In My Hair
The Ride (w/Morris Hayes on keyboards)
Alphabet St. (w/Morris Hayes on keyboards)
Blues Jam (w/Morris Hayes on keyboards)
Elephants & Flowers
All The Critics Love U In New York
Beautiful Strange
Calhoun Square (Encore)
If Saturday night had been "Lounge Singer Night," Tuesday evening was
definitely "Rock Night." Prince played heavy guitar on nearly every song and
the set included many rarities. One of the video projectors was setup in the
back of the soundstage and broadcasted weird, psychedelic images over the
audience and onto Prince's face and video screens. It made for a very cool
effect the whole night.
The set opened with Prince alone on stage, illuminated from the rear by a
white spotlight and smoke. He launched into a scorching guitar solo for 2-3
minutes before stopping to allow the band to get into place. An intense
version of "Bambi" opened the show. Prince sang all of the verses before
moving into a cover of Led Zepplin's classic "Whole Lotta Love." The first
surprise of the evening was a full-blown version of "Something In The Water
(Does Not Compute)," containing all of the lyrics and Prince playing the
keyboard part on his guitar. Awesome. This lead into "The Question of U" and
a new arrangement of "The One," which was arranged in a much more rock
fashion (I barely recognized it at first). A long jazz jam followed, which
seemed a bit out of place given the rest of the material. This was followed
by "I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man," which Prince has drastically
rearranged by slowing the tempo down by half and turning it into more of a
blues song (this was actually one of the highlights for me of the night.it
sounded GREAT!).
A cover of Bill Wither's "Ain't No Sunshine" was next, followed up with "She
's Always In My Hair" (an obvious crowd favorite). Former NPG band member
Morris Hayes then joined the band, playing Prince's keyboards on "The Ride,"
"Alphabet St." (a full-band version), and a lengthy blues jam. The main set
concluded with a lengthy jam on two surprise inclusions: full, complete
versions of "Elephants & Flowers" and "All The Critics Love U In New York."
Prince had the audience repeat the chorus to the former several times near
the end, and during the latter many audience members were brought up onstage
to dance (including 79-year old Mary Boyer from Cleveland, Ohio). Prince
then returned to the rock theme with absolutely blazing versions of
"Beautiful Strange" and "Calhoun Square" (the encore). These last two songs
sound much better live than on record.
Another absolutely unforgettable night!
DAY SIX: June 26, 2002
DAYTIME ACTIVITES AT PAISLEY PARK: Bass clinic/Q&A session with Larry
Graham.
OPENING ACT: Musiq Soulchild (8:30 p.m. to 9:40 p.m.; 70 minutes)
PRINCE: 10:50 p.m. to 1:25 a.m. (155 minutes)
SETLIST:
The Rainbow Children
Muse 2 The Pharaoh
Money Don't Matter 2 Night
Xenophobia
A Case of You
Mellow
1+1+1=3/Housequake (small portion)/Love Rollercoaster
The Other Side of The Pillow
Strange Relationship
Sing A Simple Song (w/Larry Graham)
La, La, La Means I Love You
Didn't Cha Know
When You Were Mine
Avalanche
Family Name
Take Me With U
Raspberry Beret
The Everlasting Now
Days of Wild/"Soul Child" Jam (w/Musiq) (Encore)
This was the second of the two shows originally scheduled for the Orpheum
Theater in downtown Minneapolis that was also moved to Paisley Park. After
Prince's performances the previous three evenings it was a bit of a
disappointment. This was moreso because it was essentially another viewing
of the One Nite Alone tour set, not because of the quality of Prince's
performance. Eric Leeds and Najee replaced Maceo Parker on saxophone for the
final two nights Prince was very talkative throughout the show.
The one new addition to the set was a complete, full-band version "Money Don
't Matter 2 Night." Prince also threw in the "Who in this house knows about
the 'quake?" chant and horn part from "Housequake" several times during
"1+1+1=3." Prior to "The Other Side of The Pillow" has asked the NPG what
their definition of cool was. Rhonda just pointed towards him, to which
Prince replied, "The paycheck's still the same!" Prince went on to mention
that his definition was Miles Davis and told everyone (imitating Miles) a
story about how he had tried to give Prince a real ugly belt, which he
refused because it was so bad. "F.U. then!" Miles told him. Prince then went
on to say that our interpretation of what "F.U." was said a lot about the
type of person we were. Everyone seemed to get a real kick out of this.
The encore, with Rhonda on Prince's keyboards was a 25-minute jam. The first
portion, dubbed the "Soul Child" jam, utilized the same beat from "The
Everlasting Now." After several minutes of this it turned into "Days of
Wild." Musiq and Larry Graham guested during this portion of the show.
DAY SEVEN: June 27, 2002
DAYTIME ACTIVITIES AT PAISLEY PARK: Drum clinic/Q&A session by John
Blackwell in the NPG Music Club Room. Outside, fans were asked to write
their names and where they were from, and any messages to Prince on the
pavement using sidewalk chalk. The parking lot was covered by the end of
day!
OPENING ACT: Rachelle Ferrell (9:15 p.m. to 11:30 p.m.; 135 minutes)
PRINCE (June 28th): 12:05 a.m. to 2:10 a.m. (125 minutes)
SETLIST:
Najee Flute Solo
One Nite Alone
Adore
I Wanna Be Your Lover
Do Me, Baby
Condition of the Heart
U're Gonna C Me
Empty Room
How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore?
Nothing Compares 2 U
Speech
Shake!/Automatic/Shake!
Manic Monday (Sung by NPG Music Club Member, Connie Castillo)
Soul Sanctuary
God/God (Instrumental) (w/Kip Blackshire, Musiq, Rachelle Ferrell)
Last December
ENCORE:
Purple Rain
Anna Stesia/'Party 'Til The Sun Comes Up" Jam
Most people felt that the final evening of the Celebration was going to be
special, and I do not believe that anyone left disappointed. As the crowd
was let into Paisley Park for the evening everyone in attendance was given a
CD single containing a live version of "Days of Wild" from the Montreal ONA
tour stop on June 18th, 2002 (this had been played over the PA several times
during the week). Many people also received a free "O+(>" pin.
The show began with Najee walking onstage playing a flute solo. He went to
Prince's keyboards (moved to the center of the stage) and sat down while
continuing. A couple of minutes later Prince walks out to Najee, massage's
his shoulders a bit, and bids him adieu. The first six songs of the night
were performed solo by Prince on piano: "One Nite Alone," "Adore," "I Wanna
Be Your Lover," "Do Me Baby," a complete version of "Condition of the
Heart," and "U're Gonna C Me." The band then joined him.
What happened next was totally unexpected. He began singing "Empty Room"!
The audience, who had been sitting down until this point, rose to its feet
and gave the loudest ovation of the entire week. I think Prince was a bit
taken aback, so he stopped and said "Y'all ain't ready for that yet!" He
then went on to joke with the crowd about breaking up with a woman, finding
a strand of her hair, etc. Prince then performed the entire song (minus the
guitar solo) on piano. It was AMAZING. I don't know what else I could say
other than I would have paid $250 just to have seen him perform this one
song. It was that good. Trust me.
The show then continued with "How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore?" and
"Nothing Compares 2 U." After a short speech he launched into a funky piano
jam that turned into a full version of "Shake!" Several audience members
were brought up to dance. Following the first verse of "Shake!" Prince sang
the first verse and chorus to "Automatic," then went back to the rest of
"Shake!"...playing it to conclusion. Prince then asked if there were any
singers in the house, and choose NPG Music Club member Connie Castillo to
come up and sing. He wouldn't tell her what song they were going to do, that
she was just to follow the beat when the band started to play. He called it
"Karaoke Night at Paisley Park." The band then launched into "Manic Monday"
and Connie sung the entire song perfectly; in fact, Prince looked surprised
and amazed at how well she did. Afterwards I think she started to cry and he
gave her a big hug. A beautiful, full version of "Soul Sanctuary" followed.
Prince asked for all of the lights to be turned off. He began with the vocal
version of "God" which turned into the "God (Instrumental)." This lasted
nearly 15 minutes and featured a sax solo from Najee and vocal solos on the
"God made you, God made me" portion from Kip Blackshire, Musiq, and Rachelle
Ferrell, as well as from the entire audience. This was an extremely
emotional moment. The lights were then turned on and the entire band played
"Last December," again with the audience singing the chorus along with
Prince. It was the only time that Prince picked up a guitar during the
evening.
Everyone then left the stage for a few minutes before beginning the encore
with "Purple Rain." The funkiest version of "Anna Stesia" ever played
concluded the set and the week, lasting nearly 25 minutes and featuring
Larry Graham, Musiq, Rachelle Ferrell, her brother, and her guitar player.
Everyone was allowed to stay and "party 'til the sun comes up."
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"Harold Lewis" <upt...@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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> This was also the only day that the majority of Paisley Park was open to
the
> fans. People were allowed to wander around more or less on their own.
> However, security cameras caught a couple of people trying to steal things
> and access was restricted the rest of the week (we were only allowed into
> Studio B, The Paisley Park Museum, the soundstage, dance rehearsal room,
and
> the NPG Music Club Room). Needless to say, the fact that a few people
ruined
> it for everyone was very disappointing.
Not joey again????? ;)
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kitchen area there was a little couch and a tv and vcr and a shelf of
tapes. I noted that he had 3 Bill Cosby comedy shows, and...... Jason
and the Argonauts. Too cool (that latter choice).
Bart Van Hemelen
say the following on the subject of "XENOPHOBIA CELEBRATION REPORT
w/ACCURATE SETLISTS [LONG]" in alt.music.prince on Sat, 29 Jun 2002
19:07:49 GMT:
>What happened next was totally unexpected. He began singing "Empty Room"!
>The audience, who had been sitting down until this point, rose to its feet
>and gave the loudest ovation of the entire week. I think Prince was a bit
>taken aback, so he stopped and said "Y'all ain't ready for that yet!" He
>then went on to joke with the crowd about breaking up with a woman, finding
>a strand of her hair, etc. Prince then performed the entire song (minus the
>guitar solo) on piano. It was AMAZING. I don't know what else I could say
>other than I would have paid $250 just to have seen him perform this one
>song. It was that good. Trust me.
And people accuse me of being obsessed. NO SONG played live is worth
$250. It's this kind of BS that helps Prince justify his "let's just
ask whatever ridiculous amount we can think of and people will still
pay it" policy.
I went to Werchter on Friday, a perfectly organised festival. Tickets
went on sale months ago (i.e. people could PLAN this) and cost 40
euro. Travel to & from the festival + food & beverages onsite were
altogether another 40 euro or so. Those are sensible prices. And what
did I get for that money?
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- The Notwist pyramid marquee 16:00 16:50
Can't see the attraction in this band, from what I heard @ Werchter
they never get beyond their influences and at no point I was even
remotely interested in them.
- Black Rebel Motorcycle Club pyramid marquee 17:20 18:10
Half of their set was fantastic, the other half however wasn't. It
showed a bit too much that they're stilla young band with a limited
repertoire, but when they were good, they were great.
- White Stripes pyramid marquee 18:40 19:40
Believe the hype. I read the reports in the English music mags last
year and couldn't really believe what they were writing. I love the
album, but I couldn't see how they were gonna do this live and keep
everyone interested. Well, I was simply blown away by them. Just
seeing them play is such a joy to watch, even better than watching
Flea & Frisciante of the Chili Peppers exchange glances of brotherly
love. John Peel was raving abut them last year, and now I can see why.
- Sonic Youth pyramid marquee 20:10 21:10
Awesome. Brave enough to play a set mostly consisting of their latest
album, plus a number of oldies -- "Cotton Cross", "Kool Thing", "Drunk
Butterfly" (!!!!). They're back with a vengeance after going a bit too
far into arty noise the past couple of years.
- Arno main stage 20:30 21:40
Only saw the last ten minutes of him, and while it was great to
finally see him here, it also reminded me how bad Herman Sherman has
been towards plenty of Belgian bands over the years when they weren't
on his management roster (can someone explain to me why Noordkaap only
got the opening slot a couple of years ago, whereas The Scene got
afternoon slots year after year while not even releasing any decent
albums?).
- dEUS main stage 22:20 23:35
Ah, what a joy to see them again. And some of these new arrangments
are brilliant -- "Hotellounge" (!). The new song wasn't bad, but
didn't feel finished and seemed kinda inspired by Millionaire. Great
visuals (by a collective called California, IIRC) -- Tom even stopped
"Nothing Really Ends" to enjoy the images of the dolphins. Tim was
cool as fuck again, as per usual.
- Chemical Brothers main stage 0:15 1:45
I don't think they've played a single note live, quite frankly, and
often they were too predictable. Neat graphics and it is mindblowing
to hear their music oon a really loud sound system, but they never
touched me (unlike Underworld and Orbital, for instance).
Al in all, a great day, even though I had to endure plenty of physical
pain in the pyramid marquee because people were wild during the White
Stripes and Sonic Youth (plus standing upright for hours on end is
really getting to me).
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T
Bart man, PLEASE.... Just enoy what's happening for once.
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> Bart man, PLEASE.... Just enoy what's happening for once.
T, are you offically an asskisser or arsekisser as we would call it in
blighty?
Harold Lewis
surprise. I'm sure anyone who was there would back me up on this. It was the
definite highlight among many highlights.
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T
<nigel_swan...@lycos.co.uk> wrote:
>
>"T" <TIS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> Bart man, PLEASE.... Just enoy what's happening for once.
>
>
>T, are you offically an asskisser or arsekisser as we would call it in
>blighty?
Nope, just call me someone who knows when something is good, and when
something is bad.
Nigel Swan
> >T, are you offically an asskisser or arsekisser as we would call it in
> >blighty?
>
> Nope, just call me someone who knows when something is good, and when
> something is bad.
Glad you enjoyed it matey.
Rudedog
> $250. It's this kind of BS that helps Prince justify his "let's just
> ask whatever ridiculous amount we can think of and people will still
> pay it" policy.
Dude, $17.50 per concert is not a lot of money, maybe in Belgium, but
certainly not here. Ppl paid $35 per nite( 2 concerts a night), for 7 days
man AT PAISLEY PARK. The tracklists looked awesome for the most part(how
many of those songs has he played on a regular concert, surely not Empty
Room). How many ppl walked away with a Days Of Wild CD(or bought them for
$5) and maybe and possibly turn around and sell them on Ebay for $250?(You
pretty much went there for free!) I think every single person got more then
they, even we were all expecting out of the Celebration...of course that
includes Larry's Bass & Preaching workshops :)
Rudedog
FaceDown7
U made me think of 2 things
1) i wish i knew u were there
u've been cool 2 me in the past
and it would have been chill 2 Meet
2) u made me sick 2 my stomache
reading the fact that i MISSED
"power fantastic"
4 those who dont know - this is the night the air conditioner broke and they
kicked everyone out - i had 2 endure an hour plus of damon dickson emcee ing a
lame dance party and hula hoop contest (outside of paisley)
i should have known better than 2 rely on him 2 tell me when 2 RE-Enter the
show
i Came in 4 "Extraordinary" (which i thought was the first song) up until
i read your post, this was one of my favorite shows (when the lights go down,
gotta broken heart again, with U etc..)
missing that jam killed me
however i did get 2 see T pee on the new
round building, no lie
and then procede 2 tell some fan that it was
an Unfinished GAY BATH HOUSE.
And we DID see EMINEM vs MOBEY in the DANCE OFF!
now 4 anyone who has anything 2 say
about the price, it was a straight up bargain. when u think Any normal
One nite alone show is $150
shit janet jackson and madonna cost me $250 face value
this was a straight up bargain
Empty ROOM was a shocker
(so much so that i 4got it was unreleased)
but he really neaded guitar on that one
"whole lotta love" was 2 die 4 on tuesday
2 DIE 4.
when the bootlegs come out
we all need 2 buy them
because taping a paisley show IS NOT EASY AT ALL
and when u hear these shows
u will DIE
7
NuPwrSoul
>On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:38:56 +0100, "Nigel Swan"
><nigel_swan...@lycos.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>"T" <TIS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> Bart man, PLEASE.... Just enoy what's happening for once.
>>
>>
>>T, are you offically an asskisser or arsekisser as we would call it in
>>blighty?
>
>Nope, just call me someone who knows when something is good, and when
>something is bad.
>
That's why of all the "naysayers" you are definitely one of the few
with integrity when critiquing Prince's music.
T
I did snarl down a HUGE plate of Toast Tuesday night though :)
T
Dennis Versteeg
following to our attention:
>On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:38:56 +0100, "Nigel Swan"
><nigel_swan...@lycos.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>"T" <TIS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:9iu0iu4jp9a0qnluv...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> Bart man, PLEASE.... Just enoy what's happening for once.
>>
>>
>>T, are you offically an asskisser or arsekisser as we would call it in
>>blighty?
>
>Nope, just call me someone who knows when something is good, and when
>something is bad.
that's the attitude more people should have. I don't mind people be
criticial about or praising Prince, but sometimes you've just got to
ascknowledge it when he's done something good or bad.
And of course it's all a matter of taste...
-dennis-
----
Indoor painting - outdoor sketching
Ceci n'est pas une pipe
Nits - Indoor Painting (Oudoor Sketching) - 1983
friend2001
total surprise. I'm sure anyone who was there would back me up on this.
It was the definite highlight among many highlights.>>>
I'll back you up on it! I leaned over to my girlfriend and told her
near the end of it "This is absolutely amazing!!" that he was playing
it. It WAS the highlight of the week.
Shane
"It would be ludicrous to think that we couldn't do this..WE DO
this...THIS IS WHAT WE DO!"
George Clinton with Prince at The World (second show that night) in New
York City, April 9, 2002
Bart Van Hemelen
SUCKS)evilpeople.coms> really say the following on the subject of "Re:
XENOPHOBIA CELEBRATION REPORT w/ACCURATE SETLISTS [LONG]" in
>> And people accuse me of being obsessed. NO SONG played live is worth
>> $250. It's this kind of BS that helps Prince justify his "let's just
>> ask whatever ridiculous amount we can think of and people will still
>> pay it" policy.
>
>Dude, $17.50 per concert is not a lot of money, maybe in Belgium, but
>certainly not here.
Plenty of artists manage to give concerts for a very reasonable price.
Usually the kind of artists that care about their fans.
>Ppl paid $35 per nite( 2 concerts a night), for 7 days
>man AT PAISLEY PARK. The tracklists looked awesome for the most part(how
>many of those songs has he played on a regular concert, surely not Empty
>Room).
And why limit this joy to a few selected people who are nuts enough to
spend $250 on 5 days of concerts (the Werchter festival has a weekend
pass -- 80 bands in 3 days on 2 stages -- for 88 euro and this is
considered rather *expensive* over here), not including hotel rooms,
rental cars, etc (or that you have to take a long holiday from work)?
>How many ppl walked away with a Days Of Wild CD(or bought them for
>$5) and maybe and possibly turn around and sell them on Ebay for $250?(You
>pretty much went there for free!)
And again: why limit this to a few select folk? You'd think that an
artist wants his music to be heard by as many people possible, but
when it comes to Prince you have to jump through hoops on fire and
people STILL think "well this is worth it".
Peopel complain about Madhouse Music (yes, I know their prices are
quite high, but you eliminate a lot of hard work you otherwise have to
do yourself, plus you know you're dealing with a reputable business),
but selling rare CDs on ebay is praised? I really don't get it.
Bart Van Hemelen
the following on the subject of "Re: XENOPHOBIA CELEBRATION REPORT
04:46:41 GMT:
>now 4 anyone who has anything 2 say
>about the price, it was a straight up bargain. when u think Any normal
>One nite alone show is $150
Which is an INSANE price.
>shit janet jackson and madonna cost me $250 face value
Also INSANE prices.
Bart Van Hemelen
following on the subject of "Re: XENOPHOBIA CELEBRATION REPORT
w/ACCURATE SETLISTS [LONG]" in alt.music.prince on Mon, 01 Jul 2002
11:51:07 -0400:
>Bart man, PLEASE.... Just enoy what's happening for once.
T, do you really, honestly think that this Celebration malarky is a
GOOD thing? $250/5 days (and you don't even get to go there unless
you're member of a $100/year club), several of them barely organised.
Don't you really think that ALL fans should be entitled to hearing
Prince play an acoustic set, or rare songs, for a FAIR, affordable
price? Do you really think this "let's squeeze the nutters dry" tactic
is helpful?
Handing out the DOW CD to fans @ the Celebration may on the face of
things look like a nice gesture, until you realise that Prince knows
this thing is gonna be sold on ebay for stupid money. It's yet another
of his "looking at the monkeys" ploys.
If Prince really genuinely CARES about his fans (and I'm 100% sure he
doesn't), why isn't he devising a tour that a) is affordable (don't
even try that $150 shit in Europe, it won't stand, not in the least
because no promoter is nuts enough to risk this), and b) is worthwhile
and memorable?
Harold Lewis
And yes, I felt bad for those who couldn't get in PP until later that night.
I was kinda lucky to be close to the front when they were letting everyone
back in. When he played "Power Fantastic" there couldn't have been more than
a couple of hundred people in there.
"FaceDown7" <face...@aol.com> wrote in message
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MG
Rudedog
> Plenty of artists manage to give concerts for a very reasonable price.
> Usually the kind of artists that care about their fans.
Does everyone artist have to conform to what you or I consider reasonable
price? The guy has expenses, I know thats no excuse, but look at what the
guy has and look at who he has to pay, thats all I'm saying.
> And why limit this joy to a few selected people who are nuts enough to
> spend $250 on 5 days of concerts (the Werchter festival has a weekend
> pass -- 80 bands in 3 days on 2 stages -- for 88 euro and this is
> considered rather *expensive* over here), not including hotel rooms,
> rental cars, etc (or that you have to take a long holiday from work)?
Maybe cause Paisley Park has limited space, and the expensives in Werchter
festival with a bunch of nobodies is probably less for many reasons to go
into. I'm sure those 80 bands have talent, but I don't think Britney Spears,
Christina Aquilera and 78 other American pop stars will put on a concerts
for 88 Euro. Get serious Bart :)
(BTW, they paid $250 for 7 days :)
> And again: why limit this to a few select folk? You'd think that an
> artist wants his music to be heard by as many people possible, but
> when it comes to Prince you have to jump through hoops on fire and
> people STILL think "well this is worth it".
Cause they made the LONG fuckin trek to Paisley. Isn't it a nice reward to
get a cool item like the DOW CD for paying all the expenses you listed
above? How is going to a Celebration, jumping through hoops of fire?...man
thats a BOLD statement there, you're gonna have to back it up.
> Peopel complain about Madhouse Music (yes, I know their prices are
> quite high, but you eliminate a lot of hard work you otherwise have to
> do yourself, plus you know you're dealing with a reputable business),
> but selling rare CDs on ebay is praised? I really don't get it.
Big difference between selling bootlegs and selling "rare" CDs man, you know
it. Also, with Ebay, you have a chance(depending on time, amount of auctions
of the same item, ending date, rarity of the item, etc) to get what you want
for a low or reasonable price, whereas Madhouse Music has SET
prices. I'm not doggin' MM's business, thats just how it is. At MM, 10-30
ppl(?) do the legwork for all the stuff. On Ebay, its a different story,
you're working with BILLIONS of collectors...seperate identities.
I don't understand how selling rare CDs on Ebay gets praised? I certainly
don't like it when ppl try to sell something way overpriced.
Anyways, the point about the DOW CD, is that ppl can possibly make their
money back or at least some of it with the DOW CD and if do some checking
around, you'll see what I mean.
Rudedog
EnDoRpHiN
guy. Anyone who is so dissatisfied with a performer and yet continues
to obsessively follow and chronicle his every move has serious problems.
MG
MG
Richard Dower
> when the bootlegs come out
> we all need 2 buy them
> because taping a paisley show IS NOT EASY AT ALL
Ain't it the truth....rats and spies everywhere.
Richard Dower
> Careful 7............
Why?...everyone knows what you do, even security knew to keep an eye on you.
Nigel Swan
"MG" <mg...@csusm.edu> wrote in message news:3D21D2EA...@csusm.edu...
> You are 100% correct. -Mg
Maybe MG, but your posts to AMP peak when responding to Bart so be careful
what you say.
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starboy
shit, but Prince always plays the stuff that goes over well for a
while, so many of these selections have been done at soundchecks and
will be done in the future. Hopefully he has the interest to tour in
Europe. I think more than 80% of the crowd was from overseas.
Bart Van Hemelen <tenthousa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<ug23iucu05tprla5k...@4ax.com>...
starboy
shit, but Prince always plays the stuff that goes over well for a
while, so many of these selections have been done at soundchecks and
will be done in the future. Hopefully he has the interest to tour in
Europe. I think more than 80% of the crowd was from overseas.
Bart Van Hemelen <tenthousa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<ug23iucu05tprla5k...@4ax.com>...
starboy
shit, but Prince always plays the stuff that goes over well for a
while, so many of these selections have been done at soundchecks and
will be done in the future. Hopefully he has the interest to tour in
Europe. I think more than 80% of the crowd was from overseas.
Bart Van Hemelen <tenthousa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<ug23iucu05tprla5k...@4ax.com>...
MG
Bart Van Hemelen
SUCKS)evilpeople.coms> really say the following on the subject of "Re:
XENOPHOBIA CELEBRATION REPORT w/ACCURATE SETLISTS [LONG]" in
> > Plenty of artists manage to give concerts for a very reasonable price.
>> Usually the kind of artists that care about their fans.
>
>Does everyone artist have to conform to what you or I consider reasonable
>price? The guy has expenses, I know thats no excuse, but look at what the
>guy has and look at who he has to pay, thats all I'm saying.
And he could EASILY make the same money by touring in a SENSIBLE way
and by making his music MORE accessible.
1,000 people x $100 = 100,000
10,000 people x $50 = 500,000
See what I'v"e done there? Simple maths.
>Maybe cause Paisley Park has limited space
Then why hold it there in the first place?
>and the expensives in Werchter
>festival with a bunch of nobodies is probably less for many reasons to go
>into. I'm sure those 80 bands have talent
http://www.rockwerchter.be/flashen/content.htm
Check out the line-up and notice who those nobodies are.
>(BTW, they paid $250 for 7 days :)
Which is still significantly more than 88 euro for 3 days / 80
concerts.
>Cause they made the LONG fuckin trek to Paisley. Isn't it a nice reward to
>get a cool item like the DOW CD for paying all the expenses you listed
>above? How is going to a Celebration, jumping through hoops of fire?
Barely impossible to plan (dates get announced too short in advance),
expensive, taking a week off work, traveling there, staying there,
rental car (cuz PP is in the middle of nowhere),...
>> Peopel complain about Madhouse Music (yes, I know their prices are
>> quite high, but you eliminate a lot of hard work you otherwise have to
>> do yourself, plus you know you're dealing with a reputable business),
>> but selling rare CDs on ebay is praised? I really don't get it.
>
>Big difference between selling bootlegs and selling "rare" CDs man, you know
>it.
I'm not talking about bootlegs.
>I don't understand how selling rare CDs on Ebay gets praised?
See the comments about the DOW CD etc.
>Anyways, the point about the DOW CD, is that ppl can possibly make their
>money back or at least some of it with the DOW CD and if do some checking
>around, you'll see what I mean.
And that's a GOOD thing? "Hey, I ripped off you guys by asking a
ridiculous amount of money for coming here, now you can do the same to
your fellow fans and screw them out of hard-earned money by selling a
deliberate rare CD for ridiculous $".
Bart Van Hemelen
the following on the subject of "Re: XENOPHOBIA CELEBRATION REPORT
-0700:
>It is true that only a few fans have the time and means to see this
>shit, but Prince always plays the stuff that goes over well for a
>while, so many of these selections have been done at soundchecks and
>will be done in the future.
Not true at all.
>Hopefully he has the interest to tour in
>Europe.
He won't, because no promotor is gonna want to charge $150. Not for
Prince. Unless he's nuts.
leeharrisonline.com
what people will pay. At the Paul Mccartney shows top ticket prices were 250
(close to 300 dollars with "service charges"). I had a 250 dollar ticket on
the ticketmaster screen in the 5th row for McCartney, but just couldn't see
paying that much for a show, so I let it go. then the next day a second show
opened up, I got a 100 dollar ticket, and had a fantastic time.
The ONA show too-I saw that in DC right up the street from the white house, was
on the fifth row, seriously enjoyed the soundcheck and the concert, no regrets.
I don't see it as an artist gouging fans-the market has clearly demonstrated
that folks will pay high prices to scalpers for tickets-why not the artist go
ahead and charge what scalpers will anyways?
Lee
The Hundred Song Album Project: http://www.mp3.com/leeharris100
Online Diary, yada yada: http://www.leeharrisonline.com
Mike A
> T, do you really, honestly think that this Celebration malarky is a
> GOOD thing? $250/5 days
First off for someone who's always bitching about people knowing the
facts it was $250 for 7 days, not 5 and you got 7 freaking Prince
concerts plus 7 shows from other acts including Sheila, Maceo, Wooten,
etc. And you're complaining about this price???? 35 bucks a night????
Whatever. A lot of your points are usually dead on (except for your
praising of the almighty SHITE known as Basement Jaxx) but here you're
just bitching to be bitching.
MikeA
Rudedog
> 1,000 people x $100 = 100,000
> 10,000 people x $50 = 500,000
>
> See what I'v"e done there? Simple maths.
Okay, now do some accounting, where is this money gonna go? Taxes, bills,
musicians, set up crews, lighting, security, etc.
> >Maybe cause Paisley Park has limited space
>
> Then why hold it there in the first place?
Cause its cool! More intimate then a 500, 000 person Arena, don't you think?
I definitely enjoyed the ONA tour more then previous tours I've attended
JUSt for that reason
> >and the expensives in Werchter
> >festival with a bunch of nobodies is probably less for many reasons to go
> >into. I'm sure those 80 bands have talent
>
> http://www.rockwerchter.be/flashen/content.htm
>
> Check out the line-up and notice who those nobodies are.
Again, nobodies.
> >(BTW, they paid $250 for 7 days :)
>
> Which is still significantly more than 88 euro for 3 days / 80
> concerts.
Again, with nobodies. I doubt 80 world renown pop stars now would charge 88
Euros. Garage bands and old eighties/nineties bands don't count. Prince
still has a SIGNIFICANT following even though he hasn't had a hit in what,
ten years? Most of the bands I saw listed I have never even heard of!
> I'm not talking about bootlegs.
Fine, apply that portion of my post to rare Cds then.
> See the comments about the DOW CD etc.
Elaborate....
> And that's a GOOD thing? "Hey, I ripped off you guys by asking a
> ridiculous amount of money for coming here, now you can do the same to
> your fellow fans and screw them out of hard-earned money by selling a
> deliberate rare CD for ridiculous $".
I don't see how its screwing if they are willing to pay for something and
are pretty happy coming out. Please explain.
Yes it is a good thing, you get a pretty rare item that you can hold on to
and that many ppl want and will be willing to dish out hundreds of dollars(o
ut of their OWN FREE WILL BART). Not too many artists do that man, and yes
there is a big difference between the DOW CD and artists letting fans
bootleg them. what? Listen to the DOW disc.
Rudedog
HOBBS47
>Bart Van Hemelen wrote:
>> T, do you really, honestly think that this Celebration malarky is a
>> GOOD thing? $250/5 days
>From: Mike A mik...@provide.ne
>And you're complaining about this price???? 35 bucks a night????
>Whatever. A lot of your points are usually dead on (except for your
>praising of the almighty SHITE known as Basement Jaxx)
don`t forget daft punk :)
this fucker has no credibility.
and save the"and prince does?"reply,you`ve already used that.
T
>T <TIS...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:9iu0iu4jp9a0qnluvjsouli3s6efp3m2ne@
>4ax.com:
>
>> Bart man, PLEASE.... Just enoy what's happening for once.
>>
>
>
>To bring back an oldie but goodie:
>
>www.users.qwest.net/~kashari/bart.jpg
He heeeee, I gotta hand it to the old bag,., This IS pretty funny ;)
>
>
>Caption: King Bart says: You Vill Not Have Fun Unless I So Decree!!!
MG
HOBBS47
>What about Madonna?
>
i`ll give the old HO credit,she suckers the public in every time.
Bart Van Hemelen
(leeharrisonline.com) really say the following on the subject of "Re:
XENOPHOBIA CELEBRATION REPORT w/ACCURATE SETLISTS [LONG]" in
>Bottom line on ticket prices etc.-in a capitalist society, artists will charge
>what people will pay. At the Paul Mccartney shows top ticket prices were 250
>(close to 300 dollars with "service charges"). I had a 250 dollar ticket on
>the ticketmaster screen in the 5th row for McCartney, but just couldn't see
>paying that much for a show, so I let it go. then the next day a second show
>opened up, I got a 100 dollar ticket, and had a fantastic time.
>
>The ONA show too-I saw that in DC right up the street from the white house, was
>on the fifth row, seriously enjoyed the soundcheck and the concert, no regrets.
> I don't see it as an artist gouging fans-the market has clearly demonstrated
>that folks will pay high prices to scalpers for tickets-why not the artist go
>ahead and charge what scalpers will anyways?
Uhm.... ethics? Respecting your fans?
Bart Van Hemelen
SUCKS)evilpeople.coms> really say the following on the subject of "Re:
XENOPHOBIA CELEBRATION REPORT w/ACCURATE SETLISTS [LONG]" in
>> 1,000 people x $100 = 100,000
>> 10,000 people x $50 = 500,000
>>
>> See what I'v"e done there? Simple maths.
>
>Okay, now do some accounting, where is this money gonna go? Taxes, bills,
>musicians, set up crews, lighting, security, etc.
And then he STILL makes more money from the second deal + many more
peopel get exposed and go home happy not only to have seen a great
concert plus also not to have had to pay an arm & a leg for it & might
even go to several concerts. It's called RETURN BUSINESS.
>> >and the expensives in Werchter
>> >festival with a bunch of nobodies is probably less for many reasons to go
>> >into. I'm sure those 80 bands have talent
>>
>> http://www.rockwerchter.be/flashen/content.htm
>>
>> Check out the line-up and notice who those nobodies are.
>
>Again, nobodies.
RHCP? Rammstein? Bush? Sonic Youth? Chemical Brothers? White Stripes?
Mercury Rev? QOTSA? Cornelius? Heather Nova? Etc.
Now, WHO was it that played at the Celebration this year?
>> >(BTW, they paid $250 for 7 days :)
>>
>> Which is still significantly more than 88 euro for 3 days / 80
>> concerts.
>
>Again, with nobodies. I doubt 80 world renown pop stars now would charge 88
>Euros. Garage bands and old eighties/nineties bands don't count. Prince
>still has a SIGNIFICANT following even though he hasn't had a hit in what,
>ten years? Most of the bands I saw listed I have never even heard of!
That says more about you than about these band. How many records did
the Peppers last album sell? I'd guess more than everything Prince has
released in the past 6 years. Hell, I bet their latest DVD has sold
more!
>> And that's a GOOD thing? "Hey, I ripped off you guys by asking a
>> ridiculous amount of money for coming here, now you can do the same to
>> your fellow fans and screw them out of hard-earned money by selling a
>> deliberate rare CD for ridiculous $".
>
>I don't see how its screwing if they are willing to pay for something and
>are pretty happy coming out. Please explain.
>
>Yes it is a good thing, you get a pretty rare item that you can hold on to
>and that many ppl want and will be willing to dish out hundreds of dollars(o
>ut of their OWN FREE WILL BART). Not too many artists do that man, and yes
>there is a big difference between the DOW CD and artists letting fans
>bootleg them. what? Listen to the DOW disc.
You're not getting the point in a spectacular way.
Richard Dower
> Upon close inspection, did "Rudedog" <rudedog@(SPAM
> You're not getting the point in a spectacular way.
Point is bart...you are going over the edge, take a step back man, i see the
veins-a-poppin'....prince is a dick: We Know!.
TwoDown
Bart Van Hemelen <tenthousa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Upon close inspection, did juven...@aol.compople
> (leeharrisonline.com) really say the following on the subject of "Re:
> XENOPHOBIA CELEBRATION REPORT w/ACCURATE SETLISTS [LONG]" in
> alt.music.prince on 02 Jul 2002 22:04:27 GMT:
>
> >Bottom line on ticket prices etc.-in a capitalist society, artists will
> >charge
> >what people will pay. At the Paul Mccartney shows top ticket prices were
> >250
> >(close to 300 dollars with "service charges"). I had a 250 dollar ticket on
> >the ticketmaster screen in the 5th row for McCartney, but just couldn't see
> >paying that much for a show, so I let it go. then the next day a second
> >show
> >opened up, I got a 100 dollar ticket, and had a fantastic time.
> >
> >The ONA show too-I saw that in DC right up the street from the white house,
> >was
> >on the fifth row, seriously enjoyed the soundcheck and the concert, no
> >regrets.
> > I don't see it as an artist gouging fans-the market has clearly
> > demonstrated
> >that folks will pay high prices to scalpers for tickets-why not the artist
> >go
> >ahead and charge what scalpers will anyways?
>
> Uhm.... ethics? Respecting your fans?
>
I *NEVER* had the chance to see a Prince show from a decent seat until
he took over and charged accordingly. And I paid *LESS* for these front
row seats than the first shows I went to where I had balcony seats from
"ticket dealers" because I couldn't get tickets in the first minutes
they were available a state away. As long as you don't *HAVE* to pay
$125 to see a show, $125 is a good deal for a front row seat,
soundcheck, and maybe an aftershow to boot.
I don't think this is a lack of respect. It struck me as quite the
opposite.
Rudedog
> RHCP? Rammstein? Bush? Sonic Youth? Chemical Brothers? White Stripes?
> Mercury Rev? QOTSA? Cornelius? Heather Nova? Etc.
Argh....(throwing hands up) RD??
> Now, WHO was it that played at the Celebration this year?
Someone obviously a lot more entertaining then the ppl you listed.
> That says more about you than about these band. How many records did
> the Peppers last album sell? I'd guess more than everything Prince has
> released in the past 6 years. Hell, I bet their latest DVD has sold
> more!
Well, maybe they are bigger in your country then mine, ever think of that?
I've heard of some and other I've listen to and believe me, none of them
match up to Prince. I'm not saying that to kiss Prince's ass, I'm saying
because they aren't as GOOD as...I mean, come on...Sonic Youth?? Ozomatli??
How many of those 80 bands have had a 20+ career or longer? Now I like some
of them, but ain't no way I'd pay the equivilent to 88 Euros to see them
play.
I actually have one Ozomatli bootleg, completely WORTHLESS! Red Hot Chili
Peppers, ok they are cool, but they ain't BAD ASS now.
> You're not getting the point in a spectacular way.
Neither are you, nevermind.
Rudedog
thefreak
>Red Hot Chili
>Peppers, ok they are cool, but they ain't BAD ASS now.
LOL--and obviously Prince must be better than the other shit since he blows a
damn gasket over something that others ( die hard naysayers) have been
praising. I mean who wants to go see Sonic Youth , Ozmat, Heather Nova, Merc
Rv lololol? Instead of P for 7 nights? Get the fuck outta here with that
critics band crap.
Passed the church and the steeple, the laundry on the hill
Billboards and the buildings
Memories of it still keep calling
And calling
But forget it all I know I will
ICQ#18984002
Rudedog
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>> Mercury Rev? QOTSA? Cornelius? Heather Nova? Etc.
>I mean, come on...Sonic Youth?? Ozomatli??
>How many of those 80 bands have had a 20+ career or longer?
well-in the list above the chili peppers have been together about twenty years
now, sonic youth has been together twenty years. :-)
>Red Hot Chili
>Peppers, ok they are cool, but they ain't BAD ASS now.
They've certainly improved since John cleaned up and rejoined. is Prince
"bad-ass" now?
>Rudedog
uh-oh! I didn't know this was Rude.
Elvis Sucks!
heh
leeharrisonline.com
>>ahead and charge what scalpers will anyways?
>
>Uhm.... ethics? Respecting your fans?
If the fans end up having to pay the high prices to a scalper-why not let the
artist get the money? Not that McCartney Needs the money-but it is a supply
and demand situation. Artists will (and should) charge what people will pay.
Simple econimics. How many gigs did McCartney and the Beatles play for next to
nothing from 1959 to 1963? How many millions were they ripped off for from
unscrupulous managers, music publishers, promoters--I say the bloke has earned
it.
Rudedog
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> well-in the list above the chili peppers have been together about twenty
years
> now, sonic youth has been together twenty years. :-)
I;ll give ya Chili Peppers since they have been steadily releasing albums
for many years now, but Sonic Youth??? Maybe they have gone Indie, but I
haven't seen an album in years!
> They've certainly improved since John cleaned up and rejoined. is Prince
> "bad-ass" now?
Have you seen Prince on tour Lee? You wouldn't be asking me this then.
Considering he dropped the Hit and Run tracklist and is playing some RARELY
played songs, and has a tight ass band and is playing intimate venues
instead of the 300, 000 plus packed stadiums, and is releasing better
material these days, yes Lee he is BAD ASS.
> uh-oh! I didn't know this was Rude.
>
> Elvis Sucks!
He sure does man! He sure does!! One for the money, two for the show....oops
:)
Rudedog
leeharrisonline.com
>
>I;ll give ya Chili Peppers since they have been steadily releasing albums
>for many years now, but Sonic Youth??? Maybe they have gone Indie, but I
>haven't seen an album in years!
They have a new one out any day now called "Murray Street"
They released 4 EP's at the beginning of 2000
But here's a discography
1983 Confusion Is Sex SST
1985 Bad Moon Rising DGC
1986 Made in USA Rhino
1986 EVOL DGC
1987 Sister DGC
1988 Daydream Nation DGC
1990 Goo DGC
1992 Dirty DGC
1994 Experimental Jet Set, Trash & No Star DGC
1995 Washing Machine DGC
1995 Live in Holland Sonic Death
1996 Live in Texas T.E.C. Tones
1998 A Thousand Leaves DGC
1999 Goodbye 20th Century SYR
2000 NYC Ghosts & Flowers Geffen
2000 SYR 5 SYR
2002 SYR 6 SYR
2002 Murray Street Interscope
>Have you seen Prince on tour Lee?
Yes I have-but is Prince really a Bad Ass?
>> Elvis Sucks!
>
>He sure does man! He sure does!! One for the money, two for the show....oops
>:)
That's Carl Perkins
:-)
Rudedog
> Yes I have-but is Prince really a Bad Ass?
Well he isn't a smell ass!
> >> Elvis Sucks!
> >
> >He sure does man! He sure does!! One for the money, two for the
show....oops
> >:)
>
> That's Carl Perkins
WTF is Carl Perkins? I thought that was the opening line from Blue Suede
Shoes??
Rudedog
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Nigel Swan
"Rudedog" <rudedog@(SPAM SUCKS)evilpeople.coms> wrote in message
> Damn, Elvis ripped off EVERYONE, literally! FUCK ELVIS!!!!
Heh, I love it when Rude talks utter bollocks.
Rudedog
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> Heh, I love it when Rude talks utter bollocks.
Nigel, you know I'm right...about everything :)
Rudedog
Nigel Swan
"Rudedog" <rudedog@(SPAM SUCKS)evilpeople.coms> wrote in message
> Nigel, you know I'm right...about everything :)
Will Henman beat Hewitt in the semis at wimbledon?
I might have a fiver on your choice.
Kofijahm
>> That's Carl Perkins
>
>WTF is Carl Perkins? I thought that was the opening line from Blue Suede
>Shoes??
>
LOL!!!
Rudedog
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Kofijahm
>Sorry, I'm not as old as you old foggies ;)
::::throws a water balloon at Rude just because it's the 4th of July::::
;-)
Rudedog
"Kofijahm" <snow...@aol.comandgetit> wrote in message
> ::::throws a water balloon at Rude just because it's the 4th of July::::
>
> ;-)
KISS MY........ARGH!! ;)
(...getting wacked in the face with a water balloon)
Rudedog
FaceDown7
>
>
>On 02 Jul 2002 04:46:41 GMT, face...@aol.com (FaceDown7) wrote:
>
>>when the bootlegs come out
>>we all need 2 buy them
>>because taping a paisley show IS NOT EASY AT ALL
>>
>>and when u hear these shows
>>u will DIE
In Theory only!
the bricks have be laid
7
FaceDown7
>
holy crap
SHUT THE FUCK UP RICHARD!!!
ive been reading your posts and just ignoring U - but u R such and IDIOT
i can no longer!!!!
this comment isn't about T
and its not about U
SO SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!!
the real deal europeans know all about U
U r not affiliated with them other than TOTALLY ruining "THE WORK"
u suck suck suck suck
u destroyed that CD set
7
leeharrisonline.com
>> >
>> >He sure does man! He sure does!! One for the money, two for the
>show....oops
>> >:)
>>
>> That's Carl Perkins
>
>WTF is Carl Perkins? I thought that was the opening line from Blue Suede
>Shoes??
>
>Rudedog
>
"Blue Suede Shoes" was a number one hit for Carl Perkins. Elvis covered it on
his first album, and rerecorded it for his film "GI Blues", alas, he never had
it out as a single and it never charted in the US for Elvis (although I think
it charted in the UK)
leeharrisonline.com
>
>Rudedog
Elvis actually covered ths song as a favor to sam phillips and carl perkins.
The song was written while Elvis, Carl, and Johnny Cash were on tour together
in early 1955-I actually think Johnny Cash came up with the title after hearing
someone say that phrase and told Carl about it-and Carl had it written in 15
minutes.
Having a song recorded by Elvis from 1955 to 1958 was quite a coup as he was
selling 1-2 million of each single he released, and accounted for about 40
percent of RCA's sales those years.
Bill Monroe never complained
Rudedog
> Elvis actually covered ths song as a favor to sam phillips and carl
perkins.
> The song was written while Elvis, Carl, and Johnny Cash were on tour
together
> in early 1955-I actually think Johnny Cash came up with the title after
hearing
> someone say that phrase and told Carl about it-and Carl had it written in
15
> minutes.
You just know everything now don't you Lee?? :)
> Having a song recorded by Elvis from 1955 to 1958 was quite a coup as he
was
> selling 1-2 million of each single he released, and accounted for about 40
> percent of RCA's sales those years.
ELVIS STILL SUCKS!!! HE ATE WAY TOO MUCH JUNK FOOD AND GOT NASTY FAT, not
just FAT, but NASTY FAT!!
LOL! Here's a little Prince-word-switcharoo thingie I just made up:
If you rearrange two of the letters(and drop the s) in ELVIS, you get EVIL.
Ponder on that one Lee!! :Hmmmm.... :)
Rudedog
Rudedog
> "Blue Suede Shoes" was a number one hit for Carl Perkins. Elvis covered
it on
> his first album, and rerecorded it for his film "GI Blues", alas, he never
had
> it out as a single and it never charted in the US for Elvis (although I
think
> it charted in the UK)
Lee, have you seriously ever had a life outside of music?? :)
Rudedog
Richard Dower
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> holy crap
> SHUT THE FUCK UP RICHARD!!!
> ive been reading your posts and just ignoring U - but u R such and IDIOT
> i can no longer!!!!
Great...then my plan worked...twerp.
>
> this comment isn't about T
> and its not about U
> SO SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!!
Neither was my comment dipshit.
Richard Dower
> the real deal europeans know all about U
> U r not affiliated with them other than TOTALLY ruining "THE WORK"
> u suck suck suck suck
> u destroyed that CD set
I am not affiliated with them on one hand, yet on the other i am accused of
destroying a bootleg?.
The real deal europeans know all about me...and what exactly should they
know?.
This statement shows how little you guys truely know.
Richard Dower
> In Theory only!
> the bricks have be laid
Waste of time...the euro tapers/bootleggers will beat you guys to it, so
ya'll can't cash in.
tata.
Kares
"Rudedog" <rudedog@(SPAM SUCKS)evilpeople.coms> wrote in message
is there life outside of music???....
K
thefreak
>
not to some of us...music is the s.t. to our lives(cliche I know but
still...)
..and I hid the speed inside my show...come on, come on down, Sweet Virginia
ICQ#18984002
Rudedog
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> is there life outside of music???....
I really dunno, some have said there is! ;)
Rudedog
Kofijahm
>> Lee, have you seriously ever had a life outside of music?? :)
>
>is there life outside of music???....
NO!
leeharrisonline.com
>
>Rudedog
It depends on your definition of the word "life." I actually am in the middle
or re-reading "Elvis-the Complete Recording Sessions" book, so those facts were
at the top o' my head.
I started playing when I was 4, started buying music when I was 8, started my
first band when I was 14, started DJing on a college station when I was 15, and
got a job in a record store when I was 17. So my life has always been music.
:-)
leeharrisonline.com
>just FAT, but NASTY FAT!!
Very True-and there are definite periods of Elvis' recording career that were
awful-but the Sun years, the early 60's and the late 60's all have some amazing
work.
My fascination with Elvis lies partly with the music, but equally with the
pathos and ultimate emptness of his life and self-destruction. He gained the
world, lost his soul, yada yada yada.
Rudedog
> I started playing when I was 4, started buying music when I was 8, started
my
> first band when I was 14, started DJing on a college station when I was
15, and
> got a job in a record store when I was 17. So my life has always been
music.
But you have experimented with drugs right? I think you need to start
experimenting again :)
Rudedog
Rudedog
> >ELVIS STILL SUCKS!!! HE ATE WAY TOO MUCH JUNK FOOD AND GOT NASTY FAT, not
> >just FAT, but NASTY FAT!!
>
> Very True-and there are definite periods of Elvis' recording career that
were
> awful-but the Sun years, the early 60's and the late 60's all have some
amazing
> work.
>
> My fascination with Elvis lies partly with the music, but equally with the
> pathos and ultimate emptness of his life and self-destruction. He gained
the
> world, lost his soul, yada yada yada.
YEAH, ELVIS SUCKS!! WHAT YA SAID MAN! ELVIS SUCKS!!
Remember Lee, Elvis=Evil!! Remember that one too Nigel!
Rudedog
leeharrisonline.com
>experimenting again :)
>
>Rudedog
>
Just beer, whiskey, and tequila.
lee
Rudedog
> Just beer, whiskey, and tequila.
I think its time for your first Zima Lee!
Rudedog
Nigel Swan
"Rudedog" <rudedog@(SPAM SUCKS)evilpeople.coms> wrote in message
> YEAH, ELVIS SUCKS!! WHAT YA SAID MAN! ELVIS SUCKS!!
>
> Remember Lee, Elvis=Evil!! Remember that one too Nigel!
Rude, we all know you love Elvis and that you own an outfit just like the
ones Elvis wore in Vegas during his chubster period.
How is the Elvis karaoke going? :)
Rudedog
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> Zima??!! you fruity loopy Cali's!!! It's Crown, 1800 Tequila and
> then Hot Sex to top it off. ;)
D, if T hadn't described you as the creature from the Black Lagoon, you'd be
my kind of woman ;)
Rudedog
(Don't hit me :)
SMIRNOFF ICE!!!! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Rudedog
"Nigel Swan" <nigel_swan...@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Rude, we all know you love Elvis and that you own an outfit just like the
> ones Elvis wore in Vegas during his chubster period.
Whooooooooo, fantasy can be fun folks, but we all know you get drunk and
fantasize about Antonio Banderas in his undies :)
> How is the Elvis karaoke going? :)
Hey, Ted told me your have an Antonio Banderas fan club blowup doll in his
Desperado outfit! :)
Rudedog
Nigel Swan
"Rudedog" <rudedog@(SPAM SUCKS)evilpeople.coms> wrote in message
>
> Whooooooooo, fantasy can be fun folks, but we all know you get drunk and
> fantasize about Antonio Banderas in his undies :)
Ha! My secret is out
> Hey, Ted told me your have an Antonio Banderas fan club blowup doll in his
> Desperado outfit! :)
Poor Ted is still upset that I told the word of his fascination with
Prince's windmill!!!
Nigel Swan
>
> Poor Ted is still upset that I told the word of his fascination with
> Prince's windmill!!!
World even
FaceDown7
>> u suck suck suck suck
>> u destroyed that CD set
>
>
>I am not affiliated with them on one hand, yet on the other i am accused of
>destroying a bootleg?.
>
>The real deal europeans know all about me...and what exactly should they
>know?.
>
>This statement shows how little you guys truely know.
THE One thing U did 4 the bootleggers
was RUIN and destroy the sound quality
of their CD set "the work" after the job was turned down by someone who
actually would have made the set sound better.
U HAVE NOTHING in your collection that is Not Circulating and that IS why U
dream and Cream about T.
Ireland is cool so i will wish a potatoe famine ON JUST U!
7
T
>>This statement shows how little you guys truely know.
Now THIS one is HILLARIOUS! ;)
"We do not serve Bricklayers here!" ;)
Enjoy the new discs Lib.....
T
Bart Van Hemelen
really say the following on the subject of "Re: XENOPHOBIA CELEBRATION
REPORT w/ACCURATE SETLISTS [LONG]" in alt.music.prince on Wed, 03 Jul
2002 01:45:51 GMT:
>I *NEVER* had the chance to see a Prince show from a decent seat until
>he took over and charged accordingly. And I paid *LESS* for these front
>row seats than the first shows I went to where I had balcony seats from
>"ticket dealers" because I couldn't get tickets in the first minutes
>they were available a state away.
Which says more about the corruption inside ticketing agencies than
about Prince. Why not fight this corruption instead of saying "well if
they're nuts enough to pay $100 and more, I'm gonna charge that."?
--
Bart Van Hemelen
http://pr1nc3.com/BVH/
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"Why me, Lord? Where have I gone wrong? I've always been nice to people.
I don't drink or dance or swear. I've even kept Kosher just to be on the safe
side. I've done everything the bible says, even the stuff that contradicts
the other stuff."
- Ned Flanders, The Simpsons, "Hurricane Neddy"
Bart Van Hemelen
SUCKS)evilpeople.coms> really say the following on the subject of "Re:
XENOPHOBIA CELEBRATION REPORT w/ACCURATE SETLISTS [LONG]" in
>> well-in the list above the chili peppers have been together about twenty
>years
>> now, sonic youth has been together twenty years. :-)
>
>I;ll give ya Chili Peppers since they have been steadily releasing albums
>for many years now, but Sonic Youth??? Maybe they have gone Indie, but I
>haven't seen an album in years!
Says more about you than about SY. They're currently on Geffen (not
exactly indie), have just released a fantastic album, and the current
tour is getting rave reviews. On top of that they continue to release
EPs via their own, independent label, plus are involved in countless
other records. After 20+ years as a band, SY are still a major force
and continue to lead the way.
Bart Van Hemelen
(leeharrisonline.com) really say the following on the subject of "Re:
XENOPHOBIA CELEBRATION REPORT w/ACCURATE SETLISTS [LONG]" in
>>why not the artist go
>>>ahead and charge what scalpers will anyways?
>>
>>Uhm.... ethics? Respecting your fans?
>
>If the fans end up having to pay the high prices to a scalper-why not let the
>artist get the money?
I really don't get this: following the leads of crooks and thieves?
Why not go all the way: "hey, if people are nuts enough to buy those
cheap bootleg t-shirts outside the venue, I'm gonna stop using decent
cotton on the official ones." Etc.
Bart Van Hemelen
XENOPHOBIA CELEBRATION REPORT w/ACCURATE SETLISTS [LONG]" in
>> That says more about you than about these band. How many records did
>> the Peppers last album sell? I'd guess more than everything Prince has
>> released in the past 6 years. Hell, I bet their latest DVD has sold
>> more!
>
>Well, maybe they are bigger in your country then mine, ever think of that?
Latest RHCP album sold 12.5 million copies worldwide.
Richard Dower
> THE One thing U did 4 the bootleggers
> was RUIN and destroy the sound quality
> of their CD set "the work" after the job was turned down by someone who
> actually would have made the set sound better.
T. was offered the job...he turned it down, why?...because he didn't want to
give up the contents of his collection and lose what he had.
As for quality....what do you fell has been destroyed?...give specifics,
instead off labeling 20 discs as one.
>
> U HAVE NOTHING in your collection that is Not Circulating and that IS why
U
> dream and Cream about.
You sure about that?....you 100% positive i have nothing that is not
circulating?, i can tell you i have stuff you aint even heard of or dreamed
of.
But i just sit back and wait for stuff to appear.
>
> Ireland is cool so i will wish a potatoe famine ON JUST U!
No doubt your level of mentality, you child.
Richard Dower
> THE One thing U did 4 the bootleggers
> was RUIN and destroy the sound quality
> of their CD set "the work" after the job was turned down by someone who
> actually would have made the set sound better.
One thing?...are you sure?....you guys no nothing about what i have or have
not done....you guys know nothing about what music i supplied or did not
supply.
All you have are rumors, theories and gossip....no facts, speculate all you
want...it still proves nothing.
>
> U HAVE NOTHING in your collection that is Not Circulating and that IS why
U
> dream and Cream about T.
I say again are you sure?....have you heard NPG-TV Channel 5 2CD?...no,
yes?...you know what is on that?, no?, yes?...where it came from?...no?,
yes?.
You know about all the outtake discs...you have them?, no?, yes?...you know
what is on them?, no?, yes?....you know about the new songs?, no, yes?.
Since URFilliated and are an insider...tell us, share the joy of your
knowledge with others.
Richard Dower
"T" <TIS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On 07 Jul 2002 03:13:05 GMT, Lib the dumb f*ck wrote:
> Now THIS one is HILLARIOUS! ;)
>
>
> Enjoy the new discs Lib.....
They ain't had anything to do with you..that's for sure.
leeharrisonline.com
>the
>>artist get the money?
>
>I really don't get this: following the leads of crooks and thieves?
>Why not go all the way: "hey, if people are nuts enough to buy those
>cheap bootleg t-shirts outside the venue, I'm gonna stop using decent
>cotton on the official ones." Etc.
>
>--
>Bart Van Hemelen
It's free-market economics. supply and demand. if people wouldn't pay the
high prices (as sometimes they don't-and tours get cancelled i.e. mariah
carey), the artist wouldn't charge the high prices.
simple as that.
Lee
FaceDown7
>circulating?, i can tell you i have stuff you aint even heard of or dreamed
>of.
>
>But i just sit back and wait for stuff to appear.
If this is True - this is xactly what u bitch about - Free the Music
or better yet SELL THE MUSIC
why hold on2 it Seriously Why?
My point is IF u have stuff get it out there
Sell it yourself - sell it 2 Tball, Premium, Sabotage - if its real stuff -
they pay real money not just free BOOTS
if u don't have stuff then, U don't.
those labels r under the impression u have nothing left
AND
those labels all concur
"the work" was a disaster - soup 2 nuts
a good idea but followed thru TERRIBLY
what ever u think of T - he is ANAL about sound quality- and if he did it it
would have been top notch
shit if u left the stuff the way it sounded
on Fantasia, dreams, H20, Deposition, cosmos it would have been better
whatever program u Used left digital artifacts all over songs
lets not even discuss the inclusion of FAKES, the terrible artwork or
the Omissions (granted i know not all of this was your doing )
the bottom line is
if u got stuff give it up
SELL IT
4 xample why is the real version of
"fuscia light" longer and much clearer ?
ahh funk it
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np>Cosmic Day