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Morgan Waters

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Jul 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/29/97
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What is the Time signature for duchess and proverbial mind spread? Is
it 11/4 like Eleven? E-mail me

Rush3671

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Jul 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/30/97
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>What is the Time signature for duchess and proverbial mind spread? Is
>it 11/4 like Eleven? E-mail m

They both have 11 beats to the measure, but "Duchess" is played at a much
slower tempo than "Eleven" and seems to have more of a straightforward
"four" feel to it. My guess would be that "Duchess" is in 11/4...but
"Eleven" is definitely in 11/8.....the other difference between the two
being that Herb's drumming made "Eleven" so much more interesting than
Brain makes "Duchess." *sigh*

Speaking of Herb and weird time sigs, does anybody know where the lyrics
to "19" from the Laundry album can be found online? I found 'em once but
now I can't find the site I was at.

TIA

PORKSPAM

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Jul 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/30/97
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Actually try counting a measure of 6/4 and then 5/4. It seems much
better.

Rush3671

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Jul 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/31/97
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>Actually try counting a measure of 6/4 and then 5/4. It seems much
>better.

Very true. But with Ler's guitar playing on every other beat in the 11
format, it takes him 22 beats to cycle through the pattern (2, 4, 6, 8,
10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 22) , so I suppose the song could just as easily
be written in 22/4. Hell, it's anybody's guess.

Luke Vader

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Aug 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/7/97
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Rush3671 wrote:
> >What is the Time signature for duchess and proverbial mind spread? Is
> >it 11/4 like Eleven? E-mail m
>
> They both have 11 beats to the measure, but "Duchess" is played at a much
> slower tempo than "Eleven" and seems to have more of a straightforward
> "four" feel to it. My guess would be that "Duchess" is in 11/4...but
> "Eleven" is definitely in 11/8.....

Isn't the only difference between 11/4 and 11/8 the way you would write
them out? I mean, you could have quarter notes in one measure, but only
have like 4 quarter notes or whatever, or you could have eighth notes in
one measure, but have like 8 of them. Isn't this just a matter of moving
the line that divides the measures?

Blaine

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John gaffney

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Aug 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/9/97
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The difference between 11/4 and 11/8 is the way you feel the pulse. In
an 8 meter the eighth note is felt as a pulse in a 4 meter the quarter
note is felt as the pulse. What gets tricky is how the accents are felt
within the measure. An example would be 5/8. It could either be felt
like 123 12 or 12 123. This is how eigth meter are typically felt.
Another example would be 12/8. You think 123 123 123 123 you don't
think 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12.

I'll relisten to the song to see if I can figuere out the meter.

starc...@gmail.com

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Jan 18, 2015, 11:30:22 PM1/18/15
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El martes, 29 de julio de 1997, 4:00:00 (UTC-3), Morgan Waters escribió:
> What is the Time signature for duchess and proverbial mind spread? Is
> it 11/4 like Eleven? E-mail me


A;

time signature of Eleven: 11/8 (123.123.123.12)
time signature of Duchess:11/8 (12345.123456)

both are great drummers girls.

bgaug...@gmail.com

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On Tuesday, July 29, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Morgan Waters wrote:
> What is the Time signature for duchess and proverbial mind spread? Is
> it 11/4 like Eleven? E-mail me

Nope
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