hiv+ ?
Robert
positiv. Is that true?
Uli Stauss
Robert schrieb:
Andrew Lenahan
Hehehe...
Andrew "Duckworth is a pretty cool name though" Lenahan
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Malachy V
to friends of mine who know him in London.
Happily he has been doing well on the new protease inhibitors that have been
doing so well for those who can afford it. One side effect is the facial
puffiness that has changed his appearance somewhat. This has been artfully
disguised during the current tour.
Chris is doing quite well though and is happy with his new boyfriend.
Derek Watson
>
> The latest issue of "Maenner aktuell" reports that Chris Love is HIV
> positiv. Is that true?
If he is then he is, If he is not then he his not.
I hope Chris sues "Maenner aktuell" for every worthless penny they have
got in their dirty little pockets.
Rumours like that, true or not, are the worst kind.
When it was reported some years ago that Madonna was supposed to be HIV+
she hit back by saying quite simply "What if I were?".
Derek
Grover
Derek Watson <wats...@cableinet.co.uk> schreef in berichtnieuws
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Well, to be quite frankly it DOES interest me to a certain point.
If it's a rumour, then it's just a bloody rumour, but when someone says
'What if I were?', than I think it's a bit naīve, or am I wrong?
Since 2 years I suffer from an immune disease (nope, nothing to do with HIV)
and my 'appearance' has also changed in more or less the same way you can
see with Chris.
When I saw some recent pictures of Chris Lowe from '99 a few months ago I
thought: 'What the.....?? Is he totally burn-out by al his clubbing-nights
or is he ill?'. There was a bit of a discussion on this newsgroup as well,
about the way he looked and if he was alright.
Then I read somewhere (probably on Mike's site...?) that Modern Talking
wanted to work with them, but one of the reasons that didn't happen was
(according to Modern Talking): 'that one of them (Chris or Neil) was 'very
ill'.
Remembering the way Chris looked lately I thought: 'well, this may be true
then'.
The point is: if this is all a bloody joke or a bloody rumour than I think
it's really pathetic.
On the other hand: the disease I suffer from has made a tremendous impact on
my life and I've changed (physically, and very much emotionally) because of
that.
(if the emotional change is a good thing......YOU have to
decide.....heheheheheheheeee ;-)
And so, because of the fact that I know now what it really does with a
person when he or she is seriously ill, it really really moves me when I
hear that someone I know suffers from 'a disease' (or is taking medicine
with all the side-effects......).
I hope you can understand that a remark like "What if I were?" doesn't do
anything for me nowadays. Until a few years ago I was never ill and I
couldn't relate to people who had serieus problems with their health. I
didn't really care, because I didn't really understand it...... ;-(
"What if I were?"......it might have been I thought of myself a few years
ago........
Somehow I'm glad that I've got this disease, because it has really changed
my view on life.............
Years back it affected me somewhat when I saw that the PSB became less
commercially succesfull over here in Holland (and overall). Yeah, I could
really rang a radio-station and vote for a PSB song!! (and I'm NOT saying
that's a bad thing if people do that nowadays!!)
But somehow: it doesn't interest me anymore. All those little things I
worried about...........before I got this disease. My GOD ! You see things
in a whole different perspective suddenly.........
I don't know, maybe I'm being too sensitive about it all, but it's just the
way I see things at this point in my life.
If it's a rumour, well yeah: they know they're good at sueing now, don't
they?? ;-)
But when I hear that a person I really care about is really ill or may
become very ill: ofcourse I DO care!!!
(although I don't know Chris personally ofcourse, somehow I DO care about
him......................)
Have a great 2000!!!!!
Greetings,
~Grover.
JHz
JHz
Andrew Lenahan wrote:
> If it's not, wouldn't it be nice if the Boys won two libel suits in a row?
> Hehehe...
>
> Andrew "Duckworth is a pretty cool name though" Lenahan
>
> Robert <rob...@web.de> wrote in message news:3867...@news.uni-bielefeld.de...
Paul Cannon
he was in hospital for a while after Peters death. I sincerely hope this is
just speculation, I don't want to be any part of spreading rumours, though I
am genuinely concerned. I really hope this is not true!!!
David Brider
<386826DA...@tinet.ie>...
>Who cares. If he is he is. If not expect a law suit.
What? I care. He's one half of one of my favourite pop groups. Okay,
there's a good case for arguing that his private life is none of our
business, but even so are we supposed to not be concerned for the guy's well
being?
David.
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>he was in hospital for a while after Peters death.
who is Peter,btw?
And personally - after meeting Chris after their most recent show, I have to
admit that he didn't look very healthy. Maybe it's just too much partying.
And this conversation in turn leads me to the question, just a question mind
you.... but what would happen to the PSB if Chris or Neil were to pass away?
Do you think one of them would go on, or would PSB become a thing of the past?
Kind of a scary thought, but very realistic.
I can only hope that it won't be for a long time, but hopefully they'll get
some more respect here in the U.S. after that happens. That always seems to
happen to artists who die.
Excuse me for bringing up such a morbid subject, but just being honest with my
thoughts. =)
I remain,
your Candy Perfume boy - Brian =)
John Topley
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Tony Church
It's no ones business except is own.
It not stopping him turning out brilliant music.
Tony
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VeryMary94
>group
>on.
Oh god. You know, i have kind of gotten used to the idea that Chris could quite
possibly be HIV+, but the whole thing is so damned depressing and sad to think
about, that i try not to think about it (until the subect comes up here or
elsewhere) and instead focus on the good things: that whatever his status, he's
healthy enough now to be working/playing and touring with a vengeance. I don't
even want to think about what may happen should he become too ill to carry on.
Just pray for a cure and for continued (relatively) good health for everybody
who's HIV+.
--- M@RY
PSB . . . Funnily Enough
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thing of the past. Hoorah!
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>>
>> The latest issue of "Maenner aktuell" reports that Chris Love is HIV
>> positiv. Is that true?
>
In what context was this mentioned in the magazine? Could you tell us a bit
more? was it a news item, a casual mention, or an article of some sort?
tanks alot
Guild Music
confirmed by maybe Chris himself? My guess is he would be the most reliable
source to comment on this subject!!
All I seem to read here is that "someone I know who knows him" says it's
true.
For his sake, let it go. It is none of our business. If we wanted us to
know, he would publicly comment on it.
Anyone else agree with me on this one??
Regards
Someone who likes him for what he does, not what he has (allegedly) got!!
Stacey (Tennant)
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In article <19991228005923...@ng-bh1.aol.com>, mala...@aol.com
(Malachy V) wrote:
> Yes this is true. Chris Lowe has been HIV positive since about 1994, according
> to friends of mine who know him in London.
>
> Happily he has been doing well on the new protease inhibitors that have been
> doing so well for those who can afford it. One side effect is the facial
> puffiness that has changed his appearance somewhat. This has been artfully
> disguised during the current tour.
> Chris is doing quite well though and is happy with his new boyfriend.
>
Derek Watson
> Well, to be quite frankly it DOES interest me to a certain point.
> If it's a rumour, then it's just a bloody rumour, but when someone says
> 'What if I were?', than I think it's a bit naīve, or am I wrong?
No you misunderstand me and the way I phrased my original post I can see
why.
At the time of the Madonna story the press were hounding her and the
rumours were rife of her having hiv.
The quote "What if I were?" is just that, Madonna said "What if I were?"
to suggest to the press what if I were HIV+? you`ve asked and if I was
what would you do?
Madonna said she wasn`t and I suppose such rumours must have hurt, they
would have hurt me that is for sure as HIV is something I would not wish
upon anyone.
The curing of HIV and the effects of the disease should be brought into
the public arena so that the niave and ignorant learn about this
terrible thing, and the people who make up rumours or wildly speculate
should shut up and listen.
It is not me saying "What if you were?" implying that I personally do
not care because that would be wrong of me to think like that and it is
something I could not do.
I hope I haven`t upset anyone because that wasn`t the intention
honestly.
Derek
Dave G
Guild Music wrote in message <3869c338@nap-ns1>...
>If this is fact true, don't you think we should all believe it when it
is
>confirmed by maybe Chris himself? My guess is he would be the most
reliable
>source to comment on this subject!!
>
>All I seem to read here is that "someone I know who knows him" says
it's
>true.
>
>For his sake, let it go. It is none of our business. If we wanted us to
>know, he would publicly comment on it.
>
>Anyone else agree with me on this one??
>
>Regards
>Someone who likes him for what he does, not what he has (allegedly)
got!!
>
>Stacey (Tennant)
dave g got back with
good call stacey, who really is that bothered, if he has then it's his
business and no one else's, just enjoy the music
d
David Brider
<19991228124825...@ng-fx1.aol.com>...
>And this conversation in turn leads me to the question, just a question
mind
>you.... but what would happen to the PSB if Chris or Neil were to pass
away?
>Do you think one of them would go on, or would PSB become a thing of the
past?
>Kind of a scary thought, but very realistic.
>
>I can only hope that it won't be for a long time, but hopefully they'll get
>some more respect here in the U.S. after that happens. That always seems
to
>happen to artists who die.
>
>Excuse me for bringing up such a morbid subject, but just being honest with
my
>thoughts. =)
Appreciated. Yes, it is a worrying prospect, although I hope and pray it'll
be one that's a long time coming, if at all. I can't really see the name of
the Pet Shop Boys continuing if one of them were to pass on, although
whether the remaining one might continue to record and release material as a
solo artist is anyone's guess. Still...let's just hope it doesn't come to
that.
Drico One
>
> Asked if Chris Lowe was HIV+, Drico One wrote in message
> <386826DA...@tinet.ie>...
>
> >Who cares. If he is he is. If not expect a law suit.
>
> What? I care. He's one half of one of my favourite pop groups. Okay,
> there's a good case for arguing that his private life is none of our
> business, but even so are we supposed to not be concerned for the guy's well
> being?
>
> David.
Why? Besides the fact that he writes the most brilliant music, we don't
know him. I love his music, and am rather affectionate towards him as a
result. In fact, I love him in the way that you love somebody because
you are grateful to them for enriching your life, or because you admire
them. However, I do not know him personally. I've often admired the way
he protects his privacy, and doesn't feel beholden to the gay lobby who
wish to out individuals for sheer downright publicity. Chris will never
announce he is HIV+ if he actually is. And that is his right. I hope he
will be ok, as he and Neil have soundtracked my youth. I'll always love
them for that. I'll always wish them well. But no amount of nauseating
sickly-sweet best wishes will ever change the situation. If Chris is
HIV+ then I hope he copes. But I do not take it on myself to pretend I
know the guy personally, or have the experience to empathise with his
plight. Let him live his life his way. As best he can. I hope he is
fine. But one can only despair if one has first hoped. Finally, I think
it is pointless "concerning" yourself with this situation. Nobody knows
it's true. It may well be, but they'll never officially announce it. So
dance while the music still goes on.
Drico One.
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> We really are just concerned.
>
>
yep
David McCallum
I think everyone is HIV+.
LUVPSBNEIL
but he is definatley not Hiv+. It was a rumour that started a while
back..which Chris is not very happy about.
RENAE1979
yourself in a way? You say you spoke to Chris, yet not about "the HIV thing",
but you claim he is "not very happy about" the so called rumour. How can you
know what his feelings are on that particular topic if you didn't speak about
it?
Don't get me wrong... it's none of my business if he is or not, and generally,
I wouldn't waste my time by bothering to post anything about it... but that
just struck me as a little odd.
indigolem
way of getting chris to say the slightest little thing about his
personal life. completely immoral. or it could have just been
a joke, I suppose.
-indigolem. http://www.redrival.com/octoberzone/
Robert Sullivan
> I think everyone is HIV+.
What an IQ-negative thing to say.
~bob ;)
steve
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nascent
(indigolem) wrote:
but there is the horribly troubling aspect that chris's "friend" from the
book "literally" (what was his name? dominic I think?) was later revealed to
be a boyfriend type of person, and then apparently died of aids as I recall.
they talk fondly of him (and obviously miss him a great deal) in the booklet
for alternative.
nascent