how did pearl jam get their name?
Lee Lai
I need help. Could someone email me and tell me how Pearl Jam got
their name. Much appreciated.
Lachlan Davis
Lee Lai wrote:
>
> I need help. Could someone email me and tell me how Pearl Jam got
> their name. Much appreciated.
I'm not swearing to the validity of this...it's just what I read
somewhere (I forget where, though). Now that I think of it, I may have
heard this from two sources, one of which *may* have been the Rolling
Stone bash-fest...once again, though, I'm not positive. I *heard* that
one of the band members (I think Eddie, but I'm not sure) had an aunt
named Pearl. This Aunt Pearl had a recipe for a preserve (jam) that
included a hallucinogenic ingredient...hence the name 'Pearl Jam'.
Sounds crazy, I know, but that's what I heard.
Can you picture these guys sitting around eating sandwiches, saying,
"Wow, man! That's some goooooood jam!" They'd be stoned out of their
mind's and get the munchies...and eat more sandwiches....
Maybe the term 'Spreading the jam' holds more truth to it than we all
realized. All together now, let's spread the jam!
I used to have a friend who theorized that the name came from 'pearl'
drums, and 'jam' as in making music. I don't think this is correct, but
it's interesting.
Lachlan
Mussina36
come one people, isnt it obvious what pearl jam is. It is cum, its
pearlly in color and is spreadable and sticky like jelly. Thats my
theory, but maybe thats just my perverted mind at work...lol.
Alex Tobias
Sounds like you didn't get laid in a while...it's amazing what runs
through peoples minds when the don't get enough sex....
Mata
On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Alex Tobias wrote:
> On 1 Jun 1997 23:08:11 GMT, muss...@aol.com (Mussina36) wrote:
>
> >come one people, isnt it obvious what pearl jam is. It is cum, its
> >pearlly in color and is spreadable and sticky like jelly. Thats my
> >theory, but maybe thats just my perverted mind at work...lol.
>
> Sounds like you didn't get laid in a while...
that's interesting... i that didn't even cross my mind as i read
that message. it must be you who is thinking about it. it's
amazing what runs through people's minds when they don't get
enough sex. oh, wait... you already said that.
Mata
Kavirla
muss...@aol.com (Mussina36) writes:
>that is all media crap. do you think these guys can publically say their
>band is named seman jelly. I can tell you, no one names a band after
>grandmas good jelly. It is an all ages, politically correct, nice little
>story an agent made up. Have we forgotten, that most rock stars are big
>immature children.
two points,
one, ev is on video tape saying that absurd grammie's jam story, and he
could barely keep a straight face doing it. really, for all his acting
experience, he certainly wasn't applying it here. yes, this is all ages
version that EV made up for tv interviews.
two, think mother love bone. oh, right, i have to be a total perv to
think that has a sexual connotation.
i cannot believe i am responding to this thread.
kate
Jett Karma
mans...@drizzle.com (Chris Mansfield) wrote:
>>Nice theory, Alex, but the boys in PJ seem a little mature to name their
>>band something so adolescent.
>
>oh really? you should hear some of the early interviews they did on radio and
>MTV. i think you wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the semen theory. these guys
>aren't as uptight as people would think... ;)
********
And you know me, I always think there's some
Freud-walking-the-sidelines reason for everything. I personally
believe it would make a great deal of sense for the name to mean cum.
Who probably came up with the name "Pearl Jam"? Supposedly, it was
Eddie, with some story about his great grannie. Maybe there's even
some truth to it. The oddest things happen, and who am I to judge
absolutely not knowing the facts? I mean, not only is it a great
marketing thing; sex sells, even when you don't realize the "sex" in
it. God, alcohol companies are my favorites for this. Pearl
Jam...they are definitely Mssrs. Subliminal, if you ask me. But
there's more to it. Loads more.
Say you name yourselves cum and then deny it, in essence, by telling
some romantic tale about your great grannie (Americana) who was
married to an Indian chief (whoa! True Americana!) who happened to be
into psychedelic jams (drugs). But your name really means cum (sex)
and you play grunge (rock-n-roll), which has a lot of ties in to
nihilism (Death). I think that about covers it from the marketing
standpoint...I mean, how much more could you possibly saturate the
issue...sex, drugs, rock-n-roll, death, and fuzzy nostalgic warmth?
I mean, throw in a good vegetarian pizza (food), and there is no Stone
you've left unturned! I personally admire this, from this standpoint
Alone. There genius in that. And, I think there are more and much
less, um, mercenary? reasons for the name. In fact, I think there are
some pretty sophisticated reasons, some pretty childish reasons, and
some very childlike reasons.
All will be *revealed* (naturally! can I ever hold anything back and
tell it in less than 25 pages? No, but let me qualify that....),
causing everyone to come to the same conclusion, and maybe *even* at
the same time, that I am just a little off the oft-beaten, um, path.
:)~
--Jett, no excuses or medications
Nexus28
that would be really disgusting if it was about cum---gross!
have you guys seen the ten bio, where ed is sitting by that camp fire at
night and tells how they got the name? it's one of my favorite pieces of
videos. so, yes unless he's lying about it--i could see that too, cause i
wouldn't want anyone to know i thought of a really gross hidden
name/message such as that.
but no, that clip is priceless, he says in it he doesn't have the recipe,
it must have skipped a generation, but he's in a never-ending search for
hallucinagenic pearl jam. but you people who have that clip know what i'm
talking about, i don't know what it is, but just the way he's talking or
something--it just seems so spiritual or something. if i could only keep
one video tape--i'm not kidding, that would be it.
thanks, nexus28
Jett Karma
muss...@aol.com (Mussina36) wrote:
>that is all media crap. do you think these guys can publically say their
>band is named seman jelly. I can tell you, no one names a band after
>grandmas good jelly. It is an all ages, politically correct, nice little
>story an agent made up. Have we forgotten, that most rock stars are big
>immature children. Eddie was a gas station attendant in search of one big
>break. He had no future until he met up with the pj boys. And even then,
>there were no gaurantees they would be big rock stars. Its quite possible
>that 8 years ago when they assembled they were all immauture enough to
>name their band cum jelly. Their music is great, but their minds are
>somewhat polluted (like mine). oh, and by the way, i get laid everyday.
Well, I *have* to respond to this, too. To say that they're immature
for doing this, is in my opinion, rather premature. So Eddie was
looking for that one big break on through. Cum jelly alone would
guarantee that? Eddie tells this very pretty story on a promo? tape
about how he's looking for this lost "family heirloom" recipe (takes
"family jewels," Ed, if you ask me). And now, he's still looking for
that magic recipe for Pearl Jam. I love it. If there's anything even
vaguely true about the story, I love it even more. I think, if
anything, this PJ story goes to show the quick workings of a crafty
little (maybe that's the wrong size) brain. I'm not sure whose,
exactly; but, I have my suspicions and they don't necessarily include
any agent that was anything less than alchemical.
--Jett, who congratulates (most heartily) the daily conquest/s of
mussina (after all, it goes both ways)
PattenDar
two points,
>one, ev is on video tape saying that absurd grammie's jam story, and he
>could barely keep a straight face doing it. really, for all his acting
>experience, he certainly wasn't applying it here. yes, this is all ages
>version that EV made up for tv interviews.
>two, think mother love bone. oh, right, i have to be a total perv to
>think that has a sexual connotation.
>i cannot believe i am responding to this thread.
>kate
I too never believed the gramma jam story. The look on Eds face during
that interview says is all (and they say he doesn't have a sense of
humour!) He was definitely feeling no pain during that interview. What's
the band gonna do---they have to have an "official" version for the press.
-Darlene
(Also not believing that shy Dar is responding to this thread)
Kavirla
In article <19970603055...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
nex...@aol.com (Nexus28) writes:
>that would be really disgusting if it was about cum---gross!
why? it is the fluid that is the source of life. and what a pretty way to
say & describe it. i cum-end the guys for their creativity. i was going
to posit all sorts of things about your sex life, but not knowing your age
or sex or orientation, i will begrudgingly edit myself.
but i reassert, i have seen ev tell that silly grammie's jam story more
than once, and never was he even remotely believable. just cuz he says
it, doesn't necessarily make it true. obviously with fans like you
around, he was right in cum-ing up with a nice,safe sexless version.
i STILL cannot believe i am cum-tributing to this thread. spurt spurt.
kate (the closest i'll ever get to doing that....)
Alex Tobias
muss...@aol.com (Mussina36) wrote:
>Their music is great, but their minds are
>somewhat polluted (like mine). oh, and by the way, i get laid everyday.
Sorry, self gratification doesn't coun as getting laid..that brings
your average back down to once a year....lol
Alex Tobias
mans...@drizzle.com (Chris Mansfield) wrote:
>>Nice theory, Alex, but the boys in PJ seem a little mature to name their
>>band something so adolescent.
>oh really? you should hear some of the early interviews they did on radio and
>MTV. i think you wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the semen theory. these guys
>aren't as uptight as people would think... ;)
Wasn't my theory...lol...I have been falsely accused due to
someones careless snipping of one of my replies to the original "cum
theory" post.
I actually bought into the "Eddie's American Indian Aunt's recipe
thing".
But after reading some of the posts on this thread I don't know
what to believe anymore about it....
Alex
Kavirla
oh, i'm sure someone will do this better, but let me get it started....
In article <5n1pj4$7...@surf.beaches.net>, alex...@aol.com (Alex Tobias)
writes:
> That's kind of a lame comment...you have your logic reversed, the PJ
>boys would still be playing clubs in Seattle if it weren't for Eddie.
as if they would have done nothing and found no other singer? puuleeze.
we have NO way of knowing, much less assuming, that they would not have
made it. they still would have gotten all the attention that seattle was
getting in the wake of nirvana. i've listened to the demos that stone sent
south and ended up in ev's hands. pretty fucking awesome. you just
don't know, you just don't know.
>Good guitarists, bass playes, drummers are a dime a dozen out
>there...but someone who can write songs and sing like Eddie has much
>better chance of making it...
dime a dozen? the rest of the band are dime a dozen? someone else take
this, please.
>Also Eddie is the one who understood the business side of the music
>biz better than the "PJ Boys". Eddie is the one who developed some
>inside music industry connections before the band got signed....
heeelllooo? mother love bone was a signed band. kurt cobain and others
originally hated jeff and stone cuz they were so into getting into the
industry, and always working the connections. remember the green river
disputes?
now this got started cuz someone could not believe pj would actually name
themselves pj cuz of the inside cum joke. i mean, they _knew_ they were
going to famous and who would want such a crude and stupid name if they
are going to be sooooo fucking famous and piss off all the
no-sense-of-humor prudes that would become their slavishly devoted fans,
raaayyyeeet? this reasoning is just too stupid for words.
kate
Mussina36
i guess that puts you in the negative
Mussina36
you are right about eddie knowing the industry...my appologizes to the
group
Hester
What I find amazing is that everyone here just accepts the fact that the
name being about a drug recipe is more socially acceptable than being
about semen! If EV were going to make up a story, why would he make up
that one! Why not a story acceptable to all? That's why I can't
believe it is made up.
Laurie
Id My Tree
bsmith wrote:
>
> Mussina36 wrote:
> >
> > you are very knowlegdeable about the whole pj scene, but it is possible
> > that is what the band is names after(i.e. whitesnake, a white mans penis)
> > These rock stars are mostly undereducated people with no futures until the
> > one big break the industry gives them. Otherwise, its renting an
> > appartment with 4 other guys and eating frozen dinners forever. They are
> > definately capable of naming the band after cum.
> I posted a note about the meaning of "Merkinball" here a while back. If
> you don't remember, go look up the word "merkin" in the biggest
> dictionary you can find...I certainly wouldn't put this above them!
>
> Jared
> Bsm...@txdirect.net
I just went and looked up "merkin" in this big ass unabridged
dictionary, and this is all I got:
merkin, (N). a cannon mop [Obs.]
Obs obviously stands for obsolete, but what the hell is a cannon mop?
Matt C.
--
To reply, delete "SICKOFSPAM" from the address
Mussina36
I totally agree with you Jett
Mata
On Wed, 4 Jun 1997, DRifTeR wrote:
> i heard that they got their name becuase eddie's pearl amp helps make
> good 'jam.' yeah, i know that soudns really stupid, but that's what i
> heard.
doesn't 'pearl' only make drums?
Mata
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Kavirla
In article <3394F0...@SICKOFSPAMrichmond.infi.net>, Id My Tree
<wmaa...@SICKOFSPAMrichmond.infi.net> writes:
>
>I just went and looked up "merkin" in this big ass unabridged
>dictionary, and this is all I got:
>merkin, (N). a cannon mop [Obs.]
>Obs obviously stands for obsolete, but what the hell is a cannon mop?
>
gee, maybe this is wild guess here, but it is a mop (i.e., a cleaning
device) they used to clean cannons? and since cannons are kinda obsolete,
that would make the special mop/merkin kinda obsolete too? (i didn't see
any mops around the rocket launchers in the footage about the army for
hire out of south africa on 60 minutes....) hhmmm, i wonder if they keep
them around those cermonial cannons? any military school folks around?
lol. hell, i could even be wrong! lol.
kate (shocked, absolutely shocked i am still cum-tributing to this
thread.....)
Yngver
In article <3394F0...@SICKOFSPAMrichmond.infi.net>
Id My Tree <wmaa...@SICKOFSPAMrichmond.infi.net> writes:
> I just went and looked up "merkin" in this big ass unabridged
> dictionary, and this is all I got:
> merkin, (N). a cannon mop [Obs.]
> Obs obviously stands for obsolete, but what the hell is a cannon mop?
A cannon mop is used to wipe out the inside of a cannon. Another
meaning for merkin is a hairpiece, used in the days when lice were very
common and people sometimes shaved the pubic region to prevent or get
rid of lice. If you were an aristocrat or aspired to be one, you
naturally did not want your intimate partners to think you had lice
like the hoi polloi, so you wore a merkin to disguise the fact that you
had shaved yourself.
Neither of these is EV's definition of a merkin, however.
-Yngver
Yngver
In article <33950C...@earthlink.net>
Hester <fun...@earthlink.net> writes:
The story goes that his grandmother was a Native American (or part NA,
or married to one, depending on the source), and that she made jam from
peyote cactus buttons, which is the source of mescaline, a drug popular
in the late 60s/early 70s for its LSD-like properties.
As it's long been known that peyote creates what we used to call a
"mind-altering drug," the notion of a "hallucinogenic recipe" using
peyote existed long before EV invented his tale. Why hallucinogenic
allusions are more socially accepted (in rock music) than naming your
band after semen I don't know, but it's a time honored tradition.
Perhaps it's because a drug like mescaline or LSD is not on par with a
dangerously addictive drug like heroin.
Secondly, I have seen EV's grandmother on TV in Chicago, and she
doesn't appear to be a Native American. And there aren't any peyote
cacti growing in Illinois, you know, so where did she get the stuff?
And if she did, why would she give it to a child?
Thirdly, a merkin is an artificial hairpiece for the pubic area. In an
interview EV explained that it was "a kind of arrow." Obviously he did
not feel that the real definition of a merkin was publicly acceptable,
and so he made up something else. Since he did it in this case, it
seems apparent that he did the same thing in the case of Grandma's jam.
-Yngver
Alessiana
Kavirla wrote:
>
> muss...@aol.com (Mussina36) writes:
>
> >that is all media crap. do you think these guys can publically say their
> >band is named seman jelly. I can tell you, no one names a band after
> >grandmas good jelly. It is an all ages, politically correct, nice little
> >story an agent made up. Have we forgotten, that most rock stars are big
> >immature children.
>
>
> one, ev is on video tape saying that absurd grammie's jam story, and he
> could barely keep a straight face doing it. really, for all his acting
> experience, he certainly wasn't applying it here. yes, this is all ages
> version that EV made up for tv interviews.
>
> two, think mother love bone. oh, right, i have to be a total perv to
> think that has a sexual connotation.
>
> i cannot believe i am responding to this thread.
>
> kate
after mother love bone, cums pearl jam. lol!!!
pearl jam = sex
imo, pearl jam has multiple meanings and that's exactly why they named
themselves pearl jam.
remember this is a band that originally called themselves Mookie
Blaylock after a basketball player. and they titled their debut after
his jersey number.
pearl jam = basketball
remember eddie is a surfer.
pearl jam = surfing
think of the obvious musical reference
pearl jam = music
then of course the native american heritage angle
pearl jam = a spiritual trip
so, like the words ed chooses and like no code itself, there are
multiple meanings. i can't think of anything more indicative of this
band then their name. to me, it says everything.
great trip, ain't it???
:)
aless
Nexus28
uh, no for one thing it's his great grandmother.
and another you people who think it's about cum are reading into things to
much.
you're paranoid. when you go to football games and see the players in a
huddle do you think they're talking about you?
Not every aspect is like no code, it's mainly an artfull and unique way to
put out an album, not just an ordinary plastic jewel case. why do you
think it's about cum? that is so fourth grade. the male inserts his penis
in the females vagina--you do know what a penish is don't you son? and
what comes out is spam.
yeah, some bitch told me last time i posted an argument for the indian
side that, i don't know, something about "fans like me" anyway bitch if
your listening,fans like me what are you talking about? just because ed
told us how he came up with it, you automatically have to figure out a way
to put a triangle and a circle in the middle. well you can have your
opininion and think that his personal image manager or whatever thought it
up. me, i have my right to believe ed's story about his great
grandmother's preserve and you saying "fans like me" isn't going to change
a thing. i happen to believe in their helping the sioux indians in south
dakota. wait are they making that up too? are they just playing all the
indian type music, heard in almost every album for nothing? just because
jim morrison lie about his parents being killed by indians doesn't mean
ed's lying about this. in that bio clip, jeff even mentions ed as a
spiritual leader--not a lier. oh yeah, you also said something about how
they had to put out something for the media. hold on listen to that last
part. are we talking about the same band? anyway, you know who you are,
it's the bitch that keeps going "i can't believe i'm still cum-tributing
to this thread" then don't. you are the true fan. you are the ultimate
fan. i don't know a thing (fans like me) i could care less if you
responded to this or not--i'm done with you! that will be all!
nexus28
Jett Karma
Alessiana <Ales...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>after mother love bone, cums pearl jam. lol!!!
>
>pearl jam = sex
>
>imo, pearl jam has multiple meanings and that's exactly why they named
>themselves pearl jam.
>
>remember this is a band that originally called themselves Mookie
>Blaylock after a basketball player. and they titled their debut after
>his jersey number.
>
>:)
>
>aless
*******
Well, even that Aless. Yeah, the album is called "Ten," but the roman
numeral for it is "X." As in GenX. I love it all. The multiple
meanings...all those layers to always peek under. Great fun!!!
--Jett who likes X a whole lot, but thinks they 11'd themselves with
what came after.
Andrew Millar
On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, bsmith wrote:
For the record pearl jam got their name from eddie's grandma who was
called Pearl and made a weird type of jam which had hallicnate (I know I
can't spell it) affects
MOOKIE66
Okay lets just beleive the whole grandma peyote cactus story and stay away
from the cum issue. it would make me feel better and we can finally kill
this thread. Thanks!
Brandi
mook...@aol.com
"Model role model, roll some models in blood
get some flesh to stick so they look like us."-EV Satan's Bed
lucyga
>>For the record pearl jam got their name from eddie's grandma who was
>>called Pearl and made a weird type of jam which had hallicnate (I know I
>>can't spell it) affects
>
it's true.
TOm
Virat Mohan
Pearl Jam was Eddie Vedders' grandfather's name and only after Eddie
Vedder joined the combination of members from soundgarden + stone and
ament they changed their name.
--
Virat Mohan
DerekLee1
Actually, you moron, that's EXACTLY what "pearl jam" is -- cum. It's a
porn industry slang term for cum. Jeez, don't you people read Hustler????
Mata
On 16 Jun 1997, Mussina36 wrote:
> Actually, you moron, that's EXACTLY what "pearl jam" is -- cum. It's a
> porn industry slang term for cum.
what's the porn industry's term for jam? do porn stars say:
"hey, anyone want some cum on their muffin?"
> Jeez, don't you people read Hustler????
read hustler?? what an interesting concept.
Mata
--
Buford Rochester
DerekLee1 wrote:
>
> Actually, you moron, that's EXACTLY what "pearl jam" is -- cum. It's a
nope.
Is that a big thing in Hustler? Pearl Jam?
So, guess we could say Pearl Jam have the attention of the
Hustler crowd.
bsmith
Ok, here is my theory on how they got their name (I know you don't care
but I don't care what you care about)
I think it is a mixture of both things we have discussed here. Things
with names that have double meanings are always a little catchier. I
think maybe eddie does have a Grandma Pearl with her *special* jam, And
I think we have established that the name might mean cum. But I don't
think that either one of these things alone is a good enough thing to
inspire them to name the band after it (imagine nameing a band after
your grandma, or cum). But together, There is a whole new thing! It's
clever and a little sneaky and something special (makes for a very good,
catchy, clever name) ...and when it counts they can always swear that
its based on the harmless Grandma story.
Mussina36
--
Jared
exactly...the grandma story is a somewhat politically correct, family
like, made up little fairy tale for all ages,except for the fact that she
was producing drugs, but that is overlooked by the non-critical person.
Kim McShane
I have a magazine article from 92(I think, maybe 93) and Ed says its
named after the jam his grandmother made that is actually called peot
jam or something like that, it was supposed to have some hallucinogenic
qualities to it (its like acid jam)
Yngver
muss...@aol.com (Mussina36) wrote:
>exactly...the grandma story is a somewhat politically correct, family
>like, made up little fairy tale for all ages,except for the fact that she
>was producing drugs, but that is overlooked by the non-critical person.
And even that is mitigated by the Native American aspect of the tale, so
that the hypothetical non critical person can assume she was only
producing these hallocinogenic drugs for use in spiritual ceremonies, not
to give to curious youngsters like Eddie for recreational use.
-Yngver
RRapp096
This from the group that named a two-song EP "merkinball"---which...i
believe is an ingrown pubic hair.......
However...the semen thing is new to me...i always thought Pearl Jam was
meant to be about "Pearl Jamming"...that thing
where...oh...nevermind...it's sexual....
Yngver
Kim McShane <mcs...@sk.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>I have a magazine article from 92(I think, maybe 93) and Ed says its
>named after the jam his grandmother made that is actually called peot
>jam or something like that, it was supposed to have some hallucinogenic
>qualities to it (its like acid jam)
You know, does anyone think that someone could actually make
hallucinogenic jam like this? Peyote is a type of cactus, and the
hallucinogenic part of it is the button. So if you took these buttons and
ground them up to make jam, like you would with any jam or jelly made of
cactus, you would have to cook it with the sugar, right? And wouldn't that
destroy the hallucinogenic properties? Any jam-cooks here know?
-Yngver, who thinks the story is not only wildly improbable, but maybe
even impossible
EggRolling
>Buford Rochester wrote:
> DerekLee1 wrote:
> > Actually, you moron, that's EXACTLY what "pearl jam" is -- cum. It's
a
> > porn industry slang term for cum. Jeez, don't you people read >
Hustler????
>
> nope.
> Is that a big thing in Hustler? Pearl Jam?
> So, guess we could say Pearl Jam have the attention of the
> Hustler crowd.
> I have a magazine article from 92(I think, maybe 93) and Ed says its
> named after the jam his grandmother made that is actually called peot
> jam or something like that, it was supposed to have some hallucinogenic
> qualities to it (its like acid jam)
Couldn't the answer be all these things? Like their lyrics can be
interpreted to mean many things, so can their name and that's how they
wanted it?
MOOKIE66
rrap...@aol.com wrote:
This from the group that named a two-song EP "merkinball"---which...i
believe is an ingrown pubic hair.......
Okay If we're going to delve this deep into it at least get it right.
A merkin ball is a type of toupee (really can't spell) for pubic used in
the middle ages.
God I don't know why i reply to this stuff
***********
Brandi
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Model role model, roll some models in blood.
Get some flesh to stick so they look like us."-EV Satan's Bed
Hester
Yngver wrote:
>
> Kim McShane <mcs...@sk.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >I have a magazine article from 92(I think, maybe 93) and Ed says its
> >named after the jam his grandmother made that is actually called peot
> >jam or something like that, it was supposed to have some hallucinogenic
> >qualities to it (its like acid jam)
>
> hallucinogenic jam like this? Peyote is a type of cactus, and the
> hallucinogenic part of it is the button. So if you took these buttons and
> ground them up to make jam, like you would with any jam or jelly made of
> cactus, you would have to cook it with the sugar, right? And wouldn't that
> destroy the hallucinogenic properties? Any jam-cooks here know?
>
> -Yngver, who thinks the story is not only wildly improbable, but maybe
> even impossible
Seems like a lot of trouble just to get high!
Laurie
--
To reply, delete the word "SPAM".
Yngver
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Hester <fun...@earthlink.net> writes:
> > You know, does anyone think that someone could actually make
> > hallucinogenic jam like this? Peyote is a type of cactus, and the
> > hallucinogenic part of it is the button. So if you took these buttons and
> > ground them up to make jam, like you would with any jam or jelly made of
> > cactus, you would have to cook it with the sugar, right? And wouldn't that
> > destroy the hallucinogenic properties? Any jam-cooks here know?
> >
> > -Yngver, who thinks the story is not only wildly improbable, but maybe
> > even impossible
>
> Seems like a lot of trouble just to get high!
Yep. And the more I think about it, the more I doubt it's possible to
make jam from peyote, or at least, edible jam. Peyote is intensely
bitter and nauseating. It wouldn't make for very tasty jam, if you used
enough to actually have any effect.
In addition, the Native Americans who use peyote for spiritual reasons
make a trek to Texas (the only place it grows in the U.S.) to collect
it. Seems improbable that EV's granny or great-grandma, which ever, had
ready access to peyote.
-Yngver
Alessiana
Hester wrote:
> > You know, does anyone think that someone could actually make
> > hallucinogenic jam like this? Peyote is a type of cactus, and the
> > hallucinogenic part of it is the button. So if you took these buttons and
> > ground them up to make jam, like you would with any jam or jelly made of
> > cactus, you would have to cook it with the sugar, right? And wouldn't that
> > destroy the hallucinogenic properties? Any jam-cooks here know?
i had been taught to keep certain substances in the freezer because they
lose potency when exposed to heat. if this is true then you can't
directly make jam using peyote. of course you can always mix peyote
w/jam.
;)
anyway, for all i know this could be one of those dumb druggie myths.
aless - don't look in my frezzer
Dauler
Hester wrote:
>
> Yngver wrote:
> >
> > Kim McShane <mcs...@sk.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >
> > >I have a magazine article from 92(I think, maybe 93) and Ed says its
> > >named after the jam his grandmother made that is actually called peot
> > >jam or something like that, it was supposed to have some hallucinogenic
> > >qualities to it (its like acid jam)
> >
> > hallucinogenic jam like this? Peyote is a type of cactus, and the
> > hallucinogenic part of it is the button. So if you took these buttons and
> > ground them up to make jam, like you would with any jam or jelly made of
> > cactus, you would have to cook it with the sugar, right? And wouldn't that
> > destroy the hallucinogenic properties? Any jam-cooks here know?
> >
> > even impossible
>
> Seems like a lot of trouble just to get high!
>
> --
> To reply, delete the word "SPAM".
I think were getting away from the question here. From what I know, the
name came from someone (great aunt, grandmother? Heard a lot of rumors
still unsure) related to ed named pearl. It wasn't that she made any
kind of special jam that the name came from, but it was her jam, Pearl's
jam, made into Pearl Jam somewhere along the way. Correct me if Im
wrong.
D. Drysdale
I heard that they were originally called "Mookie Blaylock" after the
Miami Heat basketball player, and then changed it to Pearl Jam, which,
is what I read is true, comes from, as many others stated a
hallucinogenic jam that Eddies grandmother Pearl made. I also read
that the title "Ten" comes from Blaylock's number.
-Dave