Ticket Scalping Explained
agni...@gmail.com
For big events and good seats the official price of a ticket is far
less then people end up paying. Part of the problem is many artists
don't want to perform live because they are not getting their fair
share of the money that people pay for tickets. What happens is people
who work in box offices buy the tickets before the box office is even
open. I knew a scalper. He didn't work every day selling tickets but
whenever there was a big event no matter where it was, he would work in
the box office. He certainly wasn't a regular employee of the place
were the tickets were sold but he was in the box office before it
opened. The only way that could happen, is the people who work for the
organizations that holds the events are getting kickbacks. The rich and
the powerful know this but they aren't going to tell you; after all
they want the best seats for themselves.
The answer is to put every ticket up for bid on the internet. If people
bid for every ticket the scalpers would be put out of business and the
people who did the shows would get more money which most likely would
mean that there
Brian (aka Zod)
fuck auctioning tickets, i've become quite adept at using ticketbastard,
and i'd probably end up paying more for quality tickets i usually pull up.
demand for tickets is so high, even if the first 15 rows on the floor
went on sale to the public, they'd still sell in a minute, because of
all the different ways people can simutaneously order tickets.
If they started auctioning tickets i think i'd be worse off.
- Brian
agni...@gmail.com
> > bid for every ticket the scalpers would be put out of business and the
> > people who did the shows would get more money which most likely would
> > mean that there
> >
> fuck auctioning tickets, i've become quite adept at using ticketbastard,
> and i'd probably end up paying more for quality tickets i usually pull up.
>
> demand for tickets is so high, even if the first 15 rows on the floor
> went on sale to the public, they'd still sell in a minute, because of
> all the different ways people can simutaneously order tickets.
>
> If they started auctioning tickets i think i'd be worse off.
>
> - Brian
I see you have some sort of advantage and of course you want to keep it.
Guncho
agni...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ticket Scalping Explained
>
> For big events and good seats the official price of a ticket is far
> less then people end up paying.
Uhh, how do you figure? Ticketmaster sells the majority of tickets to
any show at face value directly to the consumer.
Part of the problem is many artists
> don't want to perform live because they are not getting their fair
> share of the money that people pay for tickets.
No artist has ever said such a thing.
What happens is people
> who work in box offices buy the tickets before the box office is even
> open. I knew a scalper. He didn't work every day selling tickets but
> whenever there was a big event no matter where it was, he would work in
> the box office. He certainly wasn't a regular employee of the place
> were the tickets were sold but he was in the box office before it
> opened. The only way that could happen, is the people who work for the
> organizations that holds the events are getting kickbacks. The rich and
> the powerful know this but they aren't going to tell you; after all
> they want the best seats for themselves.
What's happening is you have no clue what you are talking about.
As an ex Ticketmaster employee, I'll tell you exactly how it works:
For say an onsale at 10AM, tickets go onsale at 9:55AM. No outlet
employee can override this and buy tickets before that. For events
that have a ticket limit, no account or credit card can exceed this
limit. As every account requires a different name, address, phone
number and credit card how many accounts do you think you could build
and pay off in five minutes. Also when outlet services runs their
report after every onsale, it would be pretty obvious if someone was
buying tickets before they were supposed to and the employee would be
dealt with. I'm not saying it never happens, but what company doesn't
have employee theft? I can assure that Ticketmaster takes this very
seriously, especially as they have nothing to gain from this happening
and lots to lose.
>
> The answer is to put every ticket up for bid on the internet. If people
> bid for every ticket the scalpers would be put out of business and the
> people who did the shows would get more money which most likely would
> mean that there
That there what?
Chris
Evolution
Guncho wrote:
You may have been a TM employee, but you don't have a clue... Here's how
they do it. The employee does a first pull for the ticket limit (8 for
the Bridge School Benefit). They have already told the people in line
to use cash to speed things up and most oblige. If the first person in
line wants 2 tickets, they buy the additional 6 and go on to the next
person, pull another 8, sell that person 4 or whatever, and buy the
rest. I know they can do this, because that's what the honest ones do,
only they sell the extra first pull tickets to the next in line. Of
course, if the first in line is a scalper, he'll take all 8.
Now, obviously, this method is only one that I know of, and it depends
on cash. But with thousands of outlets each siphoning off a few tickets
this way, that's a lot of tickets which get put on Ebay.
Laurie
Guncho
I don't have a clue? What is your source of this information? Pure
speculation?
It's a not a big secret how scalpers get tickets, they buy them. They
pay people to line up, call in and go online. There's also lots of
independent people doing nothing more than buying tickets online and
reselling them on ebay. All of these people also take full advantage
of any presale they can; radio stations, fan clubs, American Express
Front Of The Line. Also, anyone who has season tickets to say the
Leafs or the Raptor's gets, first dibs on those seats for any show.
I'm sure a lot of these tickets get sold to brokers and I'm sure that
lots of brokers have as many season tickets as they can.
Blaming it on crooked outlet agents is ridiculous. Like any company,
you can steal from them but people do get caught and do get fired for
it.
PS You can't make people use cash.
Chris