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Rambl...@webtv.net

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Mar 22, 2001, 4:36:52 AM3/22/01
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hi, i took some tools to a yield sign today and took it home,
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
IN TRIBUTE OF PEARL JAM!
SO IF I GET ARRESTED THAN JAM FANS FIGHT FOR ME, PLEASE LOL?

LaminA

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Mar 22, 2001, 6:13:26 AM3/22/01
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<Rambl...@webtv.net> wrote...
WOW WONT YOU BE THE COOLEST JAM FAN IF SOMEONE HAS AN ACCIDENT AT THAT
INTERSECTION LOLOL

I swear to god, I'm going to invent a keyboard without a Caps Lock key...and
rid the world of webtv/aol too.
Stealing a yield sign is something we only briefly THINK of doing, you don't
actually go out and do it ya drop kick.

Joe - off to steal a Give Way sign

PJam07

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Mar 22, 2001, 11:05:52 AM3/22/01
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hehe - we weren't serious about stealing a yiled sign - that was just cloud
talk
I feel sad for everybody that gets such an obscure reference
when we find this guy, let's kick his ass!
very ;-)
-billy

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oshuns

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Mar 22, 2001, 12:01:13 PM3/22/01
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don't blame pearl jam for the deep selfishness it took to remove a traffic
sign. hello? where's your conscience? people could get hurt. bring it
back and lay it against the post. and grow ahead, for the sake of mankind.

s

MomO2Boys

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Mar 22, 2001, 12:30:40 PM3/22/01
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>From: "LaminA" jgwh...@hotmail.com

>WOW WONT YOU BE THE COOLEST JAM FAN IF SOMEONE HAS AN ACCIDENT AT THAT
>INTERSECTION LOLOL
>
>I swear to god, I'm going to invent a keyboard without a Caps Lock key...and
>rid the world of webtv/aol too.
>Stealing a yield sign is something we only briefly THINK of doing, you don't
>actually go out and do it ya drop kick.
>
>Joe - off to steal a Give Way sign
>

Seriously though...I saw something on one of those newsshows like Primetime or
48 Hours or 20/20 about a group of "kids" (they were old enough to know better)
that stole or knocked down a stop sign. That night some young guys in a car
were killed at that intersection when their car was hit by a semi ( I think).
These kids are looking at some serious time.

Lisa


Wendy Hicks

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Mar 22, 2001, 12:39:39 PM3/22/01
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if causes wreck will be charged for manslaughter

jimbo

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Mar 22, 2001, 3:06:30 PM3/22/01
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Those kids (17 and 18 year olds) who stole the STOP sign were convicted of
negligent homicide and are doing upwards of 15 years in state prison. Think
stealing signs is such a funny thing now?

Christopher Mc Coy

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Mar 22, 2001, 5:25:52 PM3/22/01
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Like people already said, that was a big mistake to do that. If you really
wanted a yield sign there are plenty of stores and online sites that sell
plastic yield signs and stuff that you can put in your room if you thought
the yield sign looked cool. Go with one of those, it's not worth risking
being responsible for someone's death or facing jail time cause you want a
"real" yeild sign.

Chris

M. Lowerr

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Mar 22, 2001, 8:23:45 PM3/22/01
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... you know you can buy a "retired" one at a city auction for around
$10 (at least you can in my area)...

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Mar 22, 2001, 10:12:58 PM3/22/01
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It was a Yield sign not a stop sign.. In Indiana i saw about 8 trillion of them
that were basically useless except if you get in a fenderbender it basically
says you were wrong cause you had the yield sign....

on a related note there is this "drug Free School Zone" sign nearmy house with
a huge pot leaf with a line through it .. i think im gonna gank it.. i want it
so bad
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CjS "."
::Sigh::

Leanmc420

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Mar 22, 2001, 10:36:54 PM3/22/01
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>Ramblings wrote:
>
>hi, i took some tools to a yield sign today and took it home,

You hear about the folks that stole a stop sign, it caused and accident, and
someone died? Well, those folks got convicted of premeditated murder. Prison
sucks.

Put the Yield sign back. It was put up for a reason. That reason was to warn
drivers, not decorate your house.

ab

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Mar 22, 2001, 10:58:22 PM3/22/01
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actually i still think its pretty funny, its a yield sign, not a stop sign,
so cut the guy some slack, u boring ass 40 year olds who watch 20/20 or 48
hours and actually think its intelligent media

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ab

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Mar 22, 2001, 11:08:26 PM3/22/01
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Dude you have reinspired me to steal a yield sign, but i think i will steal
about 10, 1 for every whiney ass parental type who is gonna lecture u on the
rights and wrongs of society. My bet says that the all those who complain
are probably parental types, you know those terrible ass drivers who dont
even pay attention to the road, becuz their bratty kids are smacking each
other in the backseat. Yield signs are useless, if a driver actually
possess one ounce of commen sense. Heres an example, gee , im merging with
another road, let me think, should i slow down and make sure i wont smack
into anther car, hmm thats a hard one, really people. So if u got that one
ounce of intelligence dont lecture the dude anymore, if u dont have it, then
dont even bother to speak anymore.


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Nerys29

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Mar 23, 2001, 12:20:06 AM3/23/01
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Not to say that I've never pondered the stealing of a Yield sign, but I figure
maybe first I should go out and buy the album YIELD! YES!
Then, on the other hand, I have never seen one on the road in my life. I can't
think of one anywhere in this city.

Leanmc420

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Mar 23, 2001, 1:40:47 AM3/23/01
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>ab wrote:
>
>actually i still think its pretty funny, its a yield sign, not a stop sign,
>so cut the guy some slack, u boring ass 40 year olds who watch 20/20 or 48
>hours and actually think its intelligent media

Sorry, I didn't realize that *not* contributing to other people's deaths was
boring. Better go out and do something that might kill some folks, just to
stay hip. Thanks for clueing me in!

Laurie Hester

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Mar 23, 2001, 1:42:57 AM3/23/01
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Yes, I guess all people who believe stealing and endangering peoples'
lives are wrong, are just "whiney parental types" and you are the cool
one. Just don't come here complaining when your PJ collection gets
stolen from your car, or you get in an accident. What goes around..."If
you hate something, don't you do it too." It never ceases to amaze me
how some people can rationalize doing something wrong.

Laurie

Leanmc420

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Mar 23, 2001, 1:54:55 AM3/23/01
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>ab" afb...@pitt.edu wrote:
>
>Dude you have reinspired me to steal a yield sign, but i think i will steal
>about 10, 1 for every whiney ass parental type who is gonna lecture u on the
>rights and wrongs of society. My bet says that the all those who complain
>are probably parental types,

How much do your parents pay to send you to college? How much does society pay
to send you to college? You are a fucking waste of protein. Get with the
program and leave traffic signs alone.

ab

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Mar 23, 2001, 1:56:58 AM3/23/01
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hey laurie i got three things for you

first i got a opinion for you
-u are definitly the whiney ass parental type, (i estimate your age to be in
the mid-thirties)
second i gota question for you?
-have u ever done anything wrong, jsut becuz u wanted to or thought it would
be cool, o yeah u did, thanks, now shut up!!
third i got a fact for you
-i am defiantly one of the cool ones, there is no debate on this folks, its
an accepted fact, and actually law in over 37 states


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stardog

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Mar 23, 2001, 2:16:22 AM3/23/01
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Laurie Hester <laurie...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Yes, I guess all people who believe stealing and endangering peoples'
> lives are wrong, are just "whiney parental types" and you are the cool
> one. Just don't come here complaining when your PJ collection gets
> stolen from your car, or you get in an accident. What goes around..."If
> you hate something, don't you do it too." It never ceases to amaze me
> how some people can rationalize doing something wrong.
>
> Laurie


I'm not afraid to admit that I stole a Yield sign a few years back when the
album came out. I took it from a neighborhood that was just being built
that had no houses or anything yet, just empty roads and street signs. The
sign was replaced within a week, so no harm done. It looks great on the
wall.

Would I do it now, 3 years later? No, not likely. But do I feel bad about
acting like a teenager and stealing a street sign? Nope.

How's that for rationalizing doing something wrong?

-j


ab

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Mar 23, 2001, 2:27:37 AM3/23/01
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hey
Curisng is not very nice, its a very rude thing to do. Not to mention that
it only points out your imature inability to deal with anger. Why dont u
grow up and learn to communicate without having to resort to such words to
show your anger. And agian i point out, its a yield sign, not a stop sign
or some other important road sign. The yield sign is there to point out the
already obvious, so if you were intelligent, oh nevermind, i forgot we
already established your unitelligence with the whole resorting to curse
words thing. Ok folks i have changed my position, no more stealing signs,
we dont want leanmc420 to plow into another car, when she merges into
another lane and didn't think to make sure no cars were in her way..


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Willem Veentjer

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Mar 23, 2001, 2:54:50 AM3/23/01
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Don't worry dude i stole a Give Way sign (the Aussie version of the Yield
sign) here before Yeild came out and I got all my mates to sign it cos we
were at a party at the time. It was pretty cool and no-one died where i took
it from and since the government has replaced it. What im saying is enjoy ur
sign...i enjoy mine on my wall and when Yild came out I thought it was even
better.

Cheers,

Dave


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ab

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Mar 23, 2001, 6:32:38 AM3/23/01
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your welcome, i will make sure to keep u aware of the latest trends

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MomO2Boys

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Mar 23, 2001, 1:07:57 PM3/23/01
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>From: "ab" afb...@pitt.edu

>actually i still think its pretty funny, its a yield sign, not a stop sign,
>so cut the guy some slack, u boring ass 40 year olds who watch 20/20 or 48
>hours and actually think its intelligent media

Well, the sign was put there for a reason and when somebody gets sideswiped by
a another car because they didn't fail to yield..well, judging by your apparent
train of thought, you will still think it's pretty funny. There will be always
be people like you which is why there will always be special ed. What is your
idea of intelligent media? Cartoon Network?

Lisa

MomO2Boys

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Mar 23, 2001, 1:15:39 PM3/23/01
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>From: "ab" afb...@pitt.edu

>Dude you have reinspired me to steal a yield sign, but i think i will steal
>about 10, 1 for every whiney ass parental type who is gonna lecture u on the
>rights and wrongs of society. My bet says that the all those who complain
>are probably parental types, you know those terrible ass drivers who dont
>even pay attention to the road, becuz their bratty kids are smacking each
>other in the backseat. Yield signs are useless, if a driver actually
>possess one ounce of commen sense. Heres an example, gee , im merging with
>another road, let me think, should i slow down and make sure i wont smack
>into anther car, hmm thats a hard one, really people. So if u got that one
>ounce of intelligence dont lecture the dude anymore, if u dont have it, then
>dont even bother to speak anymore.
>

My bet is you aren't actually a student in Pittsburg but perhaps mop the floors
and empty the trash there and just by chance found a computer somebody had
accidentally left on? By the way, I am not a "parental type"...I am actually a
parent. I pray that in the future some law is passed where people have to
start taking some sort of "Am I smart enough to be a parent" test before being
allowed to procreate (make babies). I will be able to sleep much better at
night knowing there is no way in hell you would pass such a test.

Lisa

MomO2Boys

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Mar 23, 2001, 1:17:17 PM3/23/01
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>From: "ab" afb...@pitt.edu

>hey laurie i got three things for you

Take your three inches and step away from Laurie. She doesn't need them.

Lisa

Laurie Hester

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Mar 23, 2001, 1:32:33 PM3/23/01
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Or better yet, that his parents wouldn't have been able to pass that
test! ;)

Laurie

Christopher Mc Coy

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Mar 23, 2001, 1:50:57 PM3/23/01
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Even if you are the most selfish person in the world, still keep in mind
that you could be the one who gets into a car accident because the person
didn't realize they were supposed to yield to you. Your comment "yield

signs are useless, if a driver actually possess one ounce of commen sense"
(*his own spelling errors left in there*), is terribly naive, and could
easily result in your own death. There are enough bad drivers out there, no
need to cause even more accidents out there than there already are. So
forget all that garbage about parental types and lectures, cause if you had
any common sense, even if you are 100% selfish, I'm sure you would not want
to get into an accident and possibly killed, by a driver who didn't know to
yield, due to lack of a yield sign.

Chris

ab

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Mar 23, 2001, 3:22:45 PM3/23/01
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hey your pretty funny, you played me at my own game, im glad to know some
people have a sense of humor in here

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ab

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ab

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Mar 23, 2001, 3:26:34 PM3/23/01
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-that definitly was not cool, go after me, but not my parents

Im the immature college kid here, not you....


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Laurie Hester

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Mar 23, 2001, 4:04:30 PM3/23/01
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Do you honestly expect me to believe you are a college student when you
cannot spell or construct a sentence? 13 is my guess, based on your
maturity level, your thinking that stealing is cool, and your rebellion
against "parental types".

My crack about your parents may be unwarranted, so show us that they did
a good job in raising you to be an honest, mature individual, with
empathy toward others. Then I can say they did a good job. You are a
reflection of them...

Laurie

ths

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Mar 23, 2001, 10:38:02 PM3/23/01
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Joe, of the Lamina persuasion, wrote--
> WOW WONT YOU BE THE COOLEST JAM FAN IF SOMEONE HAS AN ACCIDENT AT THAT
> INTERSECTION LOLOL
>
> I swear to god, I'm going to invent a keyboard without a Caps Lock
key...and
> rid the world of webtv/aol too.
> Stealing a yield sign is something we only briefly THINK of doing, you
don't
> actually go out and do it ya drop kick.

Can't YIELD signs be bought at pretty much any junk store? To me, taking
down a traffic sign should be result in a mandatory five year term in jail
or something. People could get killed. Just once I want to see someone
have the balls to steal a sign for an exit for a road or whatever. That
might actually be funny, but stealing a STOP sign (or other) is beneath
contempt, IMHO.


ths

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Mar 23, 2001, 10:46:04 PM3/23/01
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> Can't YIELD signs be bought at pretty much any junk store? To me, taking
> down a traffic sign should be result in a mandatory five year term in jail

The above crap was written by...
=
!squid


Washo

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Mar 24, 2001, 1:32:38 AM3/24/01
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Seriously. It's almost like saying "I'm going to steal a trafic light!"

What is the point of having a Yield sign hanging in your room?

...You will look at it once a day, think of PJ, and smile

...but that could be a driver not being able to look at it and dying.


>Can't YIELD signs be bought at pretty much any junk store? To me, taking
>down a traffic sign should be result in a mandatory five year term in jail
>or something. People could get killed. Just once I want to see someone
>have the balls to steal a sign for an exit for a road or whatever. That
>might actually be funny, but stealing a STOP sign (or other) is beneath
>contempt, IMHO.

Rock on!

- Washo

Tom Johnson

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Mar 24, 2001, 10:43:53 AM3/24/01
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"ab" <afb...@pitt.edu> wrote

> Heres an example, gee , im merging with
> another road, let me think, should i slow down and make sure i wont smack
> into anther car, hmm thats a hard one, really people.

Hmmm, let's see. You've got two roads merging into one lane. One of them
should have the right of way. Which one? Should we leave it up to the
drivers to decide? Nope, can't do that, because you can never count on what
another driver is going to do. That's what the yield sign is there for. It
simply states which lane does not have the right of way.

I've got yield signs right down the road from me. It never ceases to amaze
me how many drivers either have no idea what "yield" means or don't even see
them, and they drive right in front of speeding dumptrucks. Your logic is
idiotic. You can't trust people to even read signs, let alone KNOW when
they should yield.

Tom

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Laurie Hester

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Mar 24, 2001, 12:28:33 PM3/24/01
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Also, the driver who has the right-of-way may drive that way every day,
and KNOW the other guy has the Yield sign, but wouldn't know it's
missing. So he's not gonna slow down. The guy with the missing sign
may assume he's got the right of way since he doesn't have a yield sign
either, or may slow down some, but the other guy is going so fast, he
doesn't see him. There's a reason why they put those signs up.

Laurie

Christopher Mc Coy

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Mar 24, 2001, 2:10:54 PM3/24/01
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You reply to my post and don't even write anything? Ummmm?

Chris

DavioW1

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Mar 24, 2001, 8:09:23 PM3/24/01
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look, stealing signs can be dangerous, and in fact can kill. But locking up
kids for nonviolent manslaughter is ridiculous.There are worse criminals who
ought to be in jail. and clearly the verdict hasnt had much effect 'cause
people are still stealing signs anyways. Oh and you people really ought to
learn to be more lighthearted. A little deviance like stealing a "YIELD SIGN"
doesnt do too much. In fact, i bet pj would basically agree with me on this.
your all insignificant as it stands, so break free your chains a little bit.

Wasn't it eddie who was basically saying its ok to burn the flag????? how is
that any better then stealing a sign. ... you people who are jerking off about
this 'wrong' rant should basically leave this newsgroup, b/c your supporting a
band that doesnt relaly agree with you.

dave

Sam Morris

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Mar 24, 2001, 9:24:03 PM3/24/01
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That post was either the result of some really bad sarcasm or some really
off-kilter logic.

Burning the American flag and stealing a road sign are two different things.
I agree, it's perfectly okay to burn a symbol that symbolizes our government
(which, today, is shit). Technically, if you burn a flag, you're
constitutionally protected by the first amendment. On the other hand, isn't
stealing a road sign a federal offense? Kind of like tampering with a
mailbox?

Anyway, ignore that last paragraph. The point is that there is a difference
between social dissidence and public stupidity.

-Sam

PS- I don't think that PJ would back you up on the stealing road sign is ok
theory. I could be wrong, though...

PPS- I'm reminded of the sticker Robert Smith had to put on the Staring at
the Sea album about how you shouldn't go out and kill Arabs.

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çhŽĄ§

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On 24 Mar 2001 06:32:38 GMT, mino...@aol.comnonono (Washo)
pathetically whined about:

>Seriously. It's almost like saying "I'm going to steal a trafic light!"
>
>What is the point of having a Yield sign hanging in your room?
>
>...You will look at it once a day, think of PJ, and smile
>
>...but that could be a driver not being able to look at it and dying.

drivers don't obey yield signs anyway!!!!

Ask me, I have sroty about one, there is a triangle intersection, the
two less used sides have stop signs, and the third has a yield sogn,
which no one follows, and I have to stop for the assholes who floor it
through the yield sign when i have the right of way, there are at
least 4 accidents a year there, all because people never yield...

it should be a stop sign..
--
Chris
__
I'm as confused as a baby in a topless bar
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Laurie Hester

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Mar 25, 2001, 1:38:42 AM3/25/01
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DavioW1 wrote:
>
> look, stealing signs can be dangerous, and in fact can kill. But locking up
> kids for nonviolent manslaughter is ridiculous.There are worse criminals who
> ought to be in jail. and clearly the verdict hasnt had much effect 'cause
> people are still stealing signs anyways. Oh and you people really ought to
> learn to be more lighthearted. A little deviance like stealing a "YIELD SIGN"
> doesnt do too much.

So, which is it? First you say stealing signs is "dangerous and in fact
can kill", then you say stealing a sign "doesn't do too much."

> In fact, i bet pj would basically agree with me on this.
> your all insignificant as it stands, so break free your chains a little bit.
>
> Wasn't it eddie who was basically saying its ok to burn the flag????? how is
> that any better then stealing a sign.

If you don't see the difference between stealing and expressing a
protest legally, then that's very sad...

> ... you people who are jerking off about
> this 'wrong' rant should basically leave this newsgroup, b/c your supporting a
> band that doesnt relaly agree with you.

Oh really. Since when has PJ ever expressed support for stealing? What
an idiot.

Laurie

>
> dave

Leanmc420

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Mar 25, 2001, 3:09:44 AM3/25/01
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>afb...@pitt.edu wrote:
>
>hey
>Curisng is not very nice, its a very rude thing to do.

No, this is a Pearl Jam newsgroup and cursing is a fucking *completely*
acceptible thing to do. Stick to the tickle me elmo newsgroups if you want to
write utter bullshit and not have someone take you to task on it.

>Not to mention that
>it only points out your imature inability to deal with anger. Why dont u
>grow up and learn to communicate without having to resort to such words to
>show your anger.

I don't know, flame *Ed* for setting the bad example. You are a fucking moron,
I'm not enraged or upset, I think I can commmunicate very well.

Y-O-U A-R-E A F-U-C-K-I-N-G M-O-R-O-N!

Did it get through? I'm not the ignorant one, you are. I spelled it out, read
it again or ask your mother to help you. Again, I'm not mad, I'm just stateing
the obvious. Only an asshole would steal a traffic sign put up to save live in
order to be cool.

>And agian i point out, its a yield sign, not a stop sign
>or some other important road sign.

All road signs are important, you would realize that if you had a life and
drove a lot. Again, ask your mother to explain it to you. Maybe she can give
you a glass of milk, too.

>The yield sign is there to point out the
>already obvious, so if you were intelligent, oh nevermind, i forgot we
>already established your unitelligence with the whole resorting to curse
>words thing.

Ah, so if you are a fucking idiot, and someone tells you you are a fucking
idiot, they are the dumb ones? Fucking idiot.

>Ok folks i have changed my position, no more stealing signs,
>we dont want leanmc420 to plow into another car, when she merges into
>another lane and didn't think to make sure no cars were in her way..
>

Fucking idiot.

DavioW1

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Mar 25, 2001, 10:21:40 AM3/25/01
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jesus christ laurie, your really a bitch. first of all, your taking this like
your child has been killed by an insane driver who is blind. and i never
actually said that pearl jam has ever stated that 'PJ ever expressed support
for stealing?' I simply said that e.v. has made statements saying that certain
forms of crime are ok. (weed, flags, etc.)..... oohhh ok, so in that case,,,,,,
i guess its ok for eddie to go driving while hes fishbowling, as long as there
are signs on the road. jesus christ. lighten up a little. i dont think this
reads alt.pmsoverload.pearl-jam.

I really hate being an asshole laurie. i really do. but you did instigate this
with your idiot naming. you could at LEAST say you disagree with my argument.
apparently you never did the evolution

dave


JettKarma

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dav...@aol.com (DavioW1) did proclaim:

****************************************************
There's an overload of stuff around, that's true, and it's basically
not PMS.

I hate to quote the Bible, I really do, but it does seem that, "Why do
you see the straw in your brother's eye, and the beam that is before
your eye you do not notice?" does indeed fit. (Matthew 7:3) Besides,
it's Sunday morning. What better time for me to quote Biblical
phrases at the unsuspecting? :)))

--Jett

Laurie Hester

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DavioW1 wrote:
>
> jesus christ laurie, your really a bitch.

Do you mean "you're really a bitch"? Right. I'm a bitch because I'm a
woman who dares tell a man he's wrong, is that it?

> first of all, your taking this like
> your child has been killed by an insane driver who is blind.

People have been killed because of stupid kids stealing road signs. It
doesn't matter if they're mine or not. This is what I mean about mature
people thinking about the consequences of their actions, and having
empathy for others.

> and i never
> actually said that pearl jam has ever stated that 'PJ ever expressed support
> for stealing?'

No, you said, > ... you people who are jerking off about


> this 'wrong' rant should basically leave this newsgroup, b/c your supporting a
> band that doesnt relaly agree with you.

And we are saying stealing is wrong, so you must be saying the band
doesn't, if they don't agree with us.

> I simply said that e.v. has made statements saying that certain
> forms of crime are ok. (weed,

A victimless crime; stealing is not a victimless crime. Do you not see
the difference?

> flags, etc.)

As far as I know, this isn't a crime. Which is why there are some
people who want to amend the constitution to outlaw it. It's an
expression of free speech, and hurts no one.

>..... oohhh ok, so in that case,,,,,,
> i guess its ok for eddie to go driving while hes fishbowling, as long as there
> are signs on the road.

Who said it's okay to drive while high? That's different from smoking a
little weed in your home, or on stage when you have a driver to take you
back to the hotel.
Honestly, do you not see the difference between stealing and a
victimless crime? You're the one who said PJ doesn't think stealing is
wrong.

> jesus christ. lighten up a little.

Yes, it is amusing when people try to rationalize stealing. Oh, it's
okay, we're just stealing from the government, or it's okay, we're just
stealing a little candy bar, or it's okay, we're stealing from a company
which is insured for theft, etc. Can you think of any other funnies?

> i dont think this
> reads alt.pmsoverload.pearl-jam.

Oh, did you learn that insult from your parents who obviously didn't
teach you that stealing and endangering lives was bad? "Son, if you
can't win an argument with a woman, pull out our secret weapon...accuse
her of being PMS."


>
> I really hate being an asshole laurie. i really do.

Then stop being one. Simple.

> but you did instigate this
> with your idiot naming.

I'm sorry, but I stand by my statement that someone who thinks stealing
isn't wrong is an idiot.

> you could at LEAST say you disagree with my argument.

What argument? You have not made a coherent argument that stealing road
signs and endangering lives is not a bad thing to do. Hey, ask anyone,
I can admit when I'm wrong. Give me a solid reason why stealing a road
sign is NOT a very stupid thing to do. Implying that PJ thinks stealing
is okay because they smoke pot is not a good argument.

> apparently you never did the evolution

I don't know what you mean by that, but evidently I've evolved further
than you...

>
> dave

oshuns

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Mar 25, 2001, 1:56:33 PM3/25/01
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DavioW1 <dav...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010325102140...@ng-fe1.aol.com...

> jesus christ laurie, your really a bitch.


hey man, name calling is for kids in kindergarten. so unless you are, keep
your mouth off my sisters.

s


DavioW1

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Mar 25, 2001, 6:36:58 PM3/25/01
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listen Laurie, first of all

your really funny... in fact, its pretty amusing to see you get so worked up
about something you cant really control. I appreciate your humor and your
apparent enjoyment of making me feel like an insignificant little dominant
male. oh and please dont go into the sex rant thing. its so passe. i mean, sure
i went a little bit overboard with the bitch bit, but thats not stopping you
from calling me and assortment of names, ranging from pig to fruitcake.

second of all

you seem to enjoy twisting my arguments into your favor. In fact, im kinda
confused. your calling marijuana a victimless crime? its all relative to the
context of the crime. people get killed if they dont sell their weed or do
something stupid w/ it. a sign gets taken, it gets replaced 5 days later, and
nothing happens. this sign deal is a crime that when put in context with a
accident, seems awful. I agree with you on that. 100%

take a certain relative i have, who used to pull fire alarms. It's a similar
crime in a lot of ways. now, the fire truck pulls up, leaves, and wastes $. its
a federal offense as well. and, lets say, jimmy and jane are walking with their
child in the stroller, and get hit by the oncoming fire truck. this, like
stealing a sign, is put into context. its all relative to how the story plays
out.

ok, and, yes I agree that my argument was a stretch when I was stating that
pearl jam belives that certain forms of crime is wrong. and just on a side
point, it is illegal to burn the flag. as is desecrating it. if you go down to
the police station, you can hand over your old flags to be burned in a
ceremony. the gov't doesnt appreciate you burning a flag in your local park.

thirdly.

EDDIE certainly has driven high. I basically cant prove that, seeing as he's
never been caught for it... but basically if your a marijuana smoker, someday,
in your life, you will drive high. its kinda unavoidable.

oh and, basically, everyone steals. the government and the corporations you
support launder more money, kill more people, break more backs, and in general
are much more evil then street crime will ever be.


ok.... now laurie, here is my list (feel free to add) why people will steal
signs

-to support pearl jam
-b/c its fucking hilarious
-makes great wall adornments
-good bragging rights.
-its something to do when you have nothing else to do
-you can give the signs to children
-by stealing signs you're finally going to see where your tax dollars are going
-laughs are worth more then frowns,

I hope you still respect me as a human being, neanderthal or not. sexist
'IDIOT' or not.

Dave

ps..... common laurie, laugh a little, if nothing else, i've got to get a
little chuckle out of you. at least a little one?

Washo

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Mar 25, 2001, 9:17:37 PM3/25/01
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Kudos :)

- Washo

Laurie Hester

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Mar 26, 2001, 11:35:09 AM3/26/01
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Hey, I respect a lot of idiots. :)

Rai

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Mar 28, 2001, 12:42:58 AM3/28/01
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Laurie Hester wrote:

> Do you mean "you're really a bitch"? Right. I'm a bitch because I'm a woman who
> dares tell a man he's wrong, is that it?

Ok -- not to interject more immaturity into an already immature topic, but I
couldn't resist.

No offense Laurie, but the hyper-internalization of insults on the part of women, to
make it seem as if anyone who calls a woman a name is insulting her "audacity to
stand up for herself as an equal." That's bullshit, in my opinion..anyone can be a
bitch: Man or woman. Turning his insults of you into a seemingly sexist attack does
wonders for alienating otherwise rational men (I'd like to pretend I'm in that
group) away from the feminist movement. If feminism means equal rights for all, than
I'll burn my bra with the best of them. But if feminism equals making it some sort
of sexist attack for a man to say (rudely) how he feels about a woman, than scratch
my balls and call me Brutus. Anyone can insult anyone, regardless of the package
between the legs.

--
Rai

"I never end my messages with a damn quote."


Laurie Hester

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Mar 28, 2001, 2:13:58 AM3/28/01
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Rai wrote:
>
> Laurie Hester wrote:
>
> > Do you mean "you're really a bitch"? Right. I'm a bitch because I'm a woman who
> > dares tell a man he's wrong, is that it?
>
> Ok -- not to interject more immaturity into an already immature topic, but I
> couldn't resist.

haha. See, this is the kind of conversation I stoop to when you aren't
around...


>
> No offense Laurie, but the hyper-internalization of insults on the part of women, to
> make it seem as if anyone who calls a woman a name is insulting her "audacity to
> stand up for herself as an equal." That's bullshit, in my opinion..anyone can be a
> bitch: Man or woman. Turning his insults of you into a seemingly sexist attack does
> wonders for alienating otherwise rational men (I'd like to pretend I'm in that
> group) away from the feminist movement. If feminism means equal rights for all, than
> I'll burn my bra with the best of them. But if feminism equals making it some sort
> of sexist attack for a man to say (rudely) how he feels about a woman, than scratch
> my balls and call me Brutus. Anyone can insult anyone, regardless of the package
> between the legs.

Well, maybe it's my age showing here; but when I was a teenager, only
women were bitches. I do know that the meaning has changed somewhat,
but I think in today's context, the meaning is the same as being an
asshole. I think we've had this discussion before, but this is a sore
point for me because I've experienced this in the workplace. I'm a
strong woman (yeah, really), and have experienced many times the
attitude towards a strong man (a leader, a manager, a good quality) but
a strong woman is a bitch. I'm glad that you're young and idealistic
yet, and glad that you haven't experienced (or have shaken off) any
racism. But racism ain't nothing compared to sexism in this society.
And I really don't care if someone calls me an idiot or asshole, which
trolls usually resort to when they insult men. But don't call me a
bitch. There have been times on this ng when I may have deserved that
insult. But when I make a rational argument which just happens to be a
good, strong one, and have not insulted anyone, I do not deserve it. In
this context, it has the same meaning as when I was young. You don't
hear women losing an argument calling a man or a woman a bitch. It's
used by men to try to put women in their place. I've heard my sons call
each other a bitch, but that was when one was actually being an
asshole. I wasn't. This wasn't that context.

Also, it was combined with the PMS thing; don't get me started...

Laurie

Lisa Kavanaugh

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Mar 28, 2001, 11:03:19 AM3/28/01
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>From: Laurie Hester laurie...@home.com

>Also, it was combined with the PMS thing; don't get me started...
>
>Laurie

Don't get me started...don't EVEN get me started.

Did anyone see that episode of SNL?

Lisa

John Hansen

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Apr 5, 2001, 12:41:01 AM4/5/01
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>ay, there are at
>least 4 accidents a year there, all because people never yield...

4 whole accidents a year??? wow....
John Hansen Sarasota Fl.
Jhans...@aol.com

John Hansen

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Apr 5, 2001, 12:47:53 AM4/5/01
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>From: lean...@aol.com (Leanmc420)
>Date: 3/25/01 4:09 AM Easter

>t only points out your imature inability to deal

> You are a fucking moron,

> I'm not the ignorant one, you are. I spelled i

>Only an asshole

> in
>order to be cool.

>so if you were intelligent, oh nevermind, i forgot

>already established your unitelligence with the whole

>you are a fucking idiot,

people might think all these things about you for having that 420 shit in your
user name....

woohoo international smoke pot day????

John Hansen

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Apr 5, 2001, 12:49:57 AM4/5/01
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> I pray that in the future some law is passed where people have to
>start taking some sort of "Am I smart enough to be a parent" test before
>being
>allowed to procreate (make babies). I will be able to sleep much better at
>night knowing there is no way in hell you would pass such a test.
>
>Lisa
>
>if this law becomes was a reality lauriehester would not be a parent

John Hansen

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Apr 5, 2001, 12:57:13 AM4/5/01
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>Can you think of any other funnies?

yes laurie your funny

John Hansen

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Apr 5, 2001, 1:00:21 AM4/5/01
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>rom: dav...@aol.com (DavioW1)

>-to support pearl jam
>-b/c its fucking hilarious
>-makes great wall adornments
>-good bragging rights.
>-its something to do when you have nothing else to do
>-you can give the signs to children
>-by stealing signs you're finally going to see where your tax dollars are
>going

I supported you and your arguement until this...for the first time I agree with
lauriehester....you ARE a moron

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