Just wondering again
Julie Lamb
1 who's the most prolific poster (and where are they now)
2 what's the maximum number of posts we've had in any one day?
3 What's the longest thread we've ever had ?
Yorkshireman
was not one to keep (or something similar) had hundreds of posts.
Not sure if that was a good thing or not
Chris
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Micky
I know this...the most prolific poster has to be Che Guevara
What were the other two questions?
Cheers
Micky
Madeleine
Well, maybe it isn't "bound to win a prize" but I remember the thread about
discussing / designing / organising the AMPS T-shirt was very very long
(2001/2?).
Is there a prize (or pestigious award) by the way? I'd hate to forget to
sign /send in the paperwork (tho I'd be in excellent company).
Madeleine
"Let the music wash your soul" Paul Simon
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Nicolas
"Julie Lamb" <JL...@wrlamb.fsnet.co.uk> wrote
> 3 What's the longest thread we've ever had ?
The one where we argued. Oh, wait: we do this all the time!
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Nicolas
"Nicolas" <FORG...@free.fr> wrote
> > 3 What's the longest thread we've ever had ?
>
> The one where we argued. Oh, wait: we do this all the time!
No, no, I remember now: the one where it was about someones's sister.
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willy
willy
Julie Lamb wrote:
> 1 who's the most prolific poster (and where are they now)
That's tough to say. We spread it out pretty well here.
>
>
> 2 what's the maximum number of posts we've had in any one day?
Probably right after the Simon and Garfunkel performance earlier
this year. That's the biggest surge I can remember.
>
>
> 3 What's the longest thread we've ever had ?
Either the Ray Phiri thread or "NPSR: Iraq War."
SNUMBER6
>1 who's the most prolific poster (and where are they now)
>
>2 what's the maximum number of posts we've had in any one day?
>
>3 What's the longest thread we've ever had ?
There was a site once I came across that allowed you to do this ... I can't
find it again ... but I found this link which greatly expands a previous post
of yours ...
http://www.shartwell.freeserve.co.uk/humor-site/newsgroup-users.htm
Be seeing you
In the Village
Number 6
Loops
No we don't.
SNUMBER6
>>The one where we argued. Oh, wait: we do this all the time!
>
>No we don't.
but your sister does ...
Julie
group.
Julie
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> http://www.shartwell.freeserve.co.uk/humor-site/newsgroup-users.htm
Nicolas
"SNUMBER6" <snum...@aol.com> wrote
> but your sister does ...
oh yeah?! Well bring her, ya hump!
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Joey Berger
wrote:
There was one from a few years back called "Credibility" or something
like it that was quite long, IIRC.
Joey Berger
pa...@simon.org
Lasers In The Jungle: http://paul.simon.org
www.paulsimon.com
"Who am I to blow against the wind?"
Who Me
WE DO NOT!
:-)
Bill
"The last time the French asked for 'more proof' it came marching into
Paris under a German flag."
--David Letterman
"I just love the French. They taste like chicken!"
--- Hannibal Lecter
Who Me
>group.
Oh no!! I didn't realize there were ANY "sane reasonable" people in this group.
I have to leave now.
Who Me
>
>
>Micky wrote:
>
>> I know this...the most prolific poster has to be Che Guevara
It is.
Julie
"sane and reasonable" ;-)
Julie
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Julie
"sane and reasonable" ;-)
Julie
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Thomas A Baas
> "I just love the French. They taste like chicken!"
> --- Hannibal Lecter
>
>
"I think Hannibal Lector, MD would satisfy me, and might even satisfy the
owners and proprietors of USCorp, much better than George W Bush. Do we
want a bumbling amateur or a man who really has a talent as well as a
relish for multiple homicide?
"I can see no room for debate here. The Lyin' Scion may have killed a
hell of a lot more people than Hannibal, by a margin of about 2000 to one,
but he does it without flair or zest."
-Robert Anton Wilson on why Hannibal Lector would make a better president
than Bush.
PS...the French, as well as the small percent of us Americans who can
think for themselves, STILL need proof.
Nicolas
"Thomas A Baas" wrote
> PS...the French, as well as the small percent of us Americans who can
> think for themselves, STILL need proof.
well, not the small percent of those who can think for themselves.
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BLACKMANNY1
>
>
>Micky wrote:
>
So did I
SNUMBER6
>well, not the small percent of those who can think for themselves.
Search French Military Victories on google and click I feel lucky ...
Thomas A Baas
search weapons of mass destruction on google and click I feel lucky.
Then compare how many French soldiers sacrificed their lives in WWII
compared to the number of Americans who did.
Who Me
>"sane and reasonable" ;-)
>
>Julie
you lookin' for a "bite me"?
:-)
Who Me
>hell of a lot more people than Hannibal, by a margin of about 2000 to one,
>but he does it without flair or zest."
um, yeah. Saddam is a really nice guy, and should have been left in control.
Bill
"The last time the French asked for 'more proof' it came marching into
Paris under a German flag."
--David Letterman
"I just love the French. They taste like chicken!"
--- Hannibal Lecter
Who Me
uh, look, that's not even a good debate. The wepons DO exist. The UN issued
sanctions based on the existence of the weapons. Saddam admitted the existence
of the weapons. Do ya think he destroyed them and din't tell anybody?? NO!!
They are still SOMEWHERE.
Thomas A Baas
I'm sorry you feel that way. I don't.
Thomas A Baas
regardless, the fact that they weren't used, even when the most powerful
military in the world was blowing shit out of their entire country says
something...it says that Iraq wasn't a sufficient enough threat to
pre-emptively declare war when we couldve just continued disarming them.
On 20 Jul 2003, Who Me wrote:
Who Me
>
>
then what the f are you talkin' 'bout?!?!
(no reply needed. I can already tell you don't have a clue)
Who Me
""continued""?!? Clearly you are without a clue.
Thomas A Baas
Do you honestly think that everybody who thinks the war was a bad idea
supports Saddam? If so, you obviously know nothing about what's been
going on. Pick up a newspaper or something...quick...it might help your
opinion if you actually knew the situation.
On 20 Jul 2003, Who Me wrote:
Thomas A Baas
yes, CONTINUED. Were you not following the news very closely in March?
Or were you too deafened by the cowboy rhetoric of that liar who was
determined to go to war before the inspections even began? Whose going to
want to drop all their weapons anyways when the most powerful country in
the world is determined to go to war with them no matter what they do? If
Bush would've shut the hell up for a second, we could've made Saddam
powerless long ago by ending sanctions on his people & turning them
against him...instead we led our soldiers to kill the people we were
supposed to being liberating, and now there's more support in Iraq for
Saddam than there was before the war started. Mindless violence isnt
always the only answer. And proposing we out-think Saddam instead of
stooping to his level doesnt mean I like Saddam. Unless you use the logic
of a 10 yr old on the schoolground.
Well now the US is out there inspecting Iraq for themselves...have they
found anything the UN inspectors didn't yet?
gee and that war was so close, wasn't it? I mean our weapons were barely a
match for all those WMD that Iraq used against us, the most powerful
nation in the world...no wonder it took us
so many years to finally defeat them...they obviously were a threat! oh
wait a minute...what do you mean it only took a month or so & they didn't
use any WMD against us? :)
think before you talk.
On 20 Jul 2003, Who Me wrote:
Julie
" Who Me" <bkaw...@aol.coma> wrote in message
> you lookin' for a "bite me"?
> :-)
No, I'm vegetarian.
Julie
Nicolas
"SNUMBER6" <snum...@aol.com> wrote
> Search French Military Victories on google and click I feel lucky ...
excellent!
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Nicolas
"Thomas A Baas" <tb...@csd.uwm.edu> wrote
> Then compare how many French soldiers sacrificed their lives in WWII
> compared to the number of Americans who did.
It wasn't a sacrifice: they were attacked. It was a sacrifice for Americans.
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Julie
towards your own country ?
Julie
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SNUMBER6
>Are you sure you're French ? You seem very unpatriotic! Why the hostility
>towards your own country ?
Perhaps the rampant rise of anti-semitism ... Things have gotten rather bad for
Jews in France ...
http://www.chronwatch.com/featured/contentDisplay.asp?aid=3511
here's one article for instance ...
Who Me
>supports Saddam?
Yes. How can you not? I'm not convinced it was a good thing. We can see now
that it's not over, and there may yet be some ugly times ahead, but something
had to be done. The alternative was just to give him more nad more time. Time
to do WHAT though?!?
Who Me
>powerless long ago by ending sanctions on his people & turning them
>against him...
been there, done that. DIDN'T WORK.
>instead we led our soldiers to kill the people we were
>supposed to being liberating,
Civilians were not targeted.
>and now there's more support in Iraq for
>Saddam than there was before the war started.
I guess, more than anything, this proves that polls can be skewed to prove
anything you want to prove. Polls show that 70% of Iraqis support the American
presence. It is clearly imperative that we now find Saddam though.
>Mindless violence isnt
>always the only answer.
Tell that to Saddam and Osama.
>And proposing we out-think Saddam instead of
>stooping to his level doesnt mean I like Saddam. Unless you use the logic
>of a 10 yr old on the schoolground.
IMO, it takes the logic of a 10 yr old to still think there was a reasonable
alternative.
>Well now the US is out there inspecting Iraq for themselves...have they
>found anything the UN inspectors didn't yet?
So, what do you think? Do you SERIOUSLY belive that Saddam rid himself of
weapons the whole world KNEW he had, and didn't tell anyone?? They exist. They
will be found.
>wait a minute...what do you mean it only took a month or so & they didn't
>use any WMD against us?
Using them would have been an admission of their existence. What's rather
blatantly obvious is that he hid them when the threat against him became
imminent.
>think before you talk.
PLEASE!!
Who Me
>for
>Jews in France ...
...and why is THIS not reported in the mainstream press?? Oh yeah. It's because
they're preoccupied with thrying to prove that GWB is a liar.
It occurred to me, some time ago, that perhaps this is the thing that Saddam,
Germany and France have in common...
Yuval
>>Perhaps the rampant rise of anti-semitism ... Things have gotten rather bad
>>for
>>Jews in France ...
>
>
>
>
> ...and why is THIS not reported in the mainstream press??
Maybe because most of the American people don't give a damn on anything
outside the US?
> Oh yeah. It's because
> they're preoccupied with thrying to prove that GWB is a liar.
Isn't he?
Yuval
Who Me
>> they're preoccupied with thrying to prove that GWB is a liar.
>
>Isn't he?
>
Aren;t they all? What, however, makes the difference between those that the
media will go after, and those they will not go after?
willy
Please do not confront Bill on political issues, whether your
arguments are logical or not. We will have a happier newsgroup without any
Iraq-related discussions. Bill has turned nice again lately, and it's much
more fun. Arguing these points will not convince him. You could
demonstrate every single point you make with all kinds of evidence, and you
still will not change his mind. And he will not change your mind. It will
only get ugly. I understand that lively discussion is what newsgroups are
all about, but I promise you this will lead nowhere. We've been down this
road before. It's wasted energy. Give peace a chance. Keep hope alive.
Free James Brown!
willy
endorsement of your country's policies. If that were the case, Americans
would have to waffle an awful lot to maintain their patriotism.
willy
Who Me wrote:
> >> Oh yeah. It's because
> >> they're preoccupied with thrying to prove that GWB is a liar.
> >
> >Isn't he?
> >
>
> Aren;t they all?
I'll say!
> What, however, makes the difference between those that the
> media will go after, and those they will not go after?
A lot of things.
willy
Nicolas
"SNUMBER6" <snum...@aol.com> wrote
> >Are you sure you're French ? You seem very unpatriotic! Why the hostility
> >towards your own country ?
>
> Perhaps the rampant rise of anti-semitism ... Things have gotten rather
bad for
> Jews in France ...
yes, this is one the main reason. The incapacity (or the unwillingness) of
this country to protect some of his citizens from others. Today was the
official celebration of the "rafle du Vel d'Hiv" where 13.000 Jews were
arrested in Paris and sent to death. Not by Germans but by french policemen!
So am I french? Yes. But am I patriotic? How could I be? And yes I've got a
lot of admiration for the US who, despite their mistakes, have never
persecuted Jews.
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Who Me
>demonstrate every single point you make with all kinds of evidence, and you
>still will not change his mind.
There IS no evidence.
Who Me
>> media will go after, and those they will not go after?
>
> A lot of things.
Wrong. Only one thing. He's not OUR guy. See, I must admit, I still don't grasp
why people voted for GWB in the 2000 primaries (unless they really are
boneheaded enough to just go for the name recognition). I thought he was
creepy. Nonetheless, we must now deal with the reality of him as president,and,
quite frankly, I have not yet perceived him to be as much a liar as Willie...
SNUMBER6
>And yes I've got a
>lot of admiration for the US who, despite their mistakes, have never
>persecuted Jews.
In fact, Jews were the main group fighting for the rights of the blacks when
they were being segregated ... We know some of the folksingers bringing this
out ...
Bob Dylan, Peter Yarrow, Phil Ochs, Jack Eliot, Theodore Bikel, half the
Weavers Guthrie's wife and kids ... and even Paul and Art ... to mention some
...
Not counting the large number of influential people who did not sing ...
Joey Berger
>>> What, however, makes the difference between those that the
>>> media will go after, and those they will not go after?
>>
>> A lot of things.
>
>
>
>Wrong. Only one thing. He's not OUR guy. See, I must admit, I still don't grasp
>why people voted for GWB in the 2000 primaries (unless they really are
>boneheaded enough to just go for the name recognition). I thought he was
>creepy. Nonetheless, we must now deal with the reality of him as president,and,
>quite frankly, I have not yet perceived him to be as much a liar as Willie...
>
I was thinking yesterday that the two of them should go into business
together, sort of a Liars Incorporated. Clinton'll say anything and
GWB looks like he believes every non-truth and misrepresentation that
comes out of his mouth. What a pair.
>
>
>
>
>Bill
>
>"The last time the French asked for 'more proof' it came marching into
>Paris under a German flag."
>--David Letterman
>
>"I just love the French. They taste like chicken!"
> --- Hannibal Lecter
>
Joey Berger
pa...@simon.org
Lasers In The Jungle: http://paul.simon.org
www.paulsimon.com
"Who am I to blow against the wind?"
Joey Berger
Didn't MLK wack arm-in-arm with Abraham Joshua Heschel in the famed
March on Washington?
SNUMBER6
>Maybe because most of the American people don't give a damn on anything
>outside the US?
The link I gave basically reprinted the Washington Post story ...
Who Me
>comes out of his mouth.
A man hears what he wants to hear...
See, as of yet, there has been no 'misrepresentation' proven. A lot of people
WANT to prove that...
Who Me
>they were being segregated ... We know some of the folksingers
>Phil Ochs,
I could be wrong, and I don't have my copy of the bio at home, so I can't look
it up, but I don't think Phil was Jewish.
Who Me
trying to resist...
:-P
Who Me
>
but is it on CNN, CBS or A and NBC? That is the mainstream.
Nicolas
> In fact, Jews were the main group fighting for the rights of the blacks
when
> they were being segregated ...
Correct. Yiddish newspapers were also the only newspapers to write a piece
of article when a black man was murdered. Many of these newspapers also put
a placard at their window when such a crime happened.
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Limegreen Lizard
> sanctions based on the existence of the weapons. Saddam admitted the existence
> of the weapons. Do ya think he destroyed them and din't tell anybody?? NO!!
> They are still SOMEWHERE.
LOOOOL
This sentence Bill, funny as always :-)
P.S. Do you represent anyone from the white house?
Bodo
Limegreen Lizard
> >demonstrate every single point you make with all kinds of evidence, and you
> >still will not change his mind.
>
> There IS no evidence.
>
Oh, you have choosen the wrong sentence for this argument, you
should have taken this sentence:
"Bill has turned nice again lately, and it's much
more fun." ;-)
Bodo
SNUMBER6
>I could be wrong, and I don't have my copy of the bio at home, so I can't
>look
>it up, but I don't think Phil was Jewish.
I found this ... it's from the internet so it must be true ... although it
really does appear to be correct ...
Ochs senior was the son of traditionally religious Polish refugees, who met his
also-Jewish wife in her native Scotland while he was attending medical school
with her brother. The family lived in Jacob’s mother Fanny Ochs’ Kosher
home in the Lower East Side while Jacob served in the Army. He was discharged
for manic depression, and was relegated to the field of institutional TB care
in Far Rockaway, Perrysburgh NY, and, eventually, Columbus, Ohio. Moody and
withdrawn, Phil became, under his mother’s encouragement, a superb
clarinetist at local conservatories. When he was assaulted for being a
"Jew-boy" he fought back, and his attacker became his sole friend.
willy
If you could whip out one rarely-performed Simon and Garfunkel tune for
them to perform if they reunite, what would it be?
willy
I don't have reason to think he's much less of a liar than Clinton, except
that he hasn't had as much time in office. But then I'm not sure he knows if he's
telling a lie or a truth much of the time. Maybe it's just his demeanor, but he
comes across as the loveable speech-reader more than the President. It just
doesn't seem like he's entirely running the show. I think Dick Cheney is probably
the brains of the outfit.
SNUMBER6
> If you could whip out one rarely-performed Simon and Garfunkel tune for
>them to perform if they reunite, what would it be?
The Church is Burning ... if Artie's mike were off ...
Julie
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>
> If you could whip out one rarely-performed Simon and Garfunkel tune
for
> them to perform if they reunite, what would it be?
>
Also "Blues run the Game" (is that allowed ,not being a PS song)
Oh and " He Was My Brother"
And don't forget "On The Side Of A Hill"
Oops, you said ONE. Sorry , impossible task.
Julie
Madeleine
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Madeleine
"Let the music wash your soul" Paul Simon
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Cathy Friedmann
audience would be left wondering. <g>
Cathy
--
"Staccato signals of constant information..."
("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon
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Who Me
>
>This sentence Bill, funny as always :-)
Only to the seriously ill-informed. Even your boy Willie accepted the existence
of the weapons.
Bill
Who Me
>really does appear to be correct ...
>
>Ochs senior was the son of traditionally religious Polish refugees, who met
>his
>also-Jewish wife
Okay. I thought I had some recollection of him having been Presbyterian, or
something like that...
Who Me
>doesn't seem like he's entirely running the show.
No president is. That's part of why JFK took a bullet. He thought he was in
charge...
Who Me
>them to perform if they reunite, what would it be?
Lone Teen Ranger
Madeleine
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Madeleine
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Cathy
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"Staccato signals of constant information..."
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Joey Berger
>>GWB looks like he believes every non-truth and misrepresentation that
>>comes out of his mouth.
>
>
>
>A man hears what he wants to hear...
>See, as of yet, there has been no 'misrepresentation' proven. A lot of people
>WANT to prove that...
Bush said the folowing last week:
"We gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn't let
them in."
Him, referring to Saddam, the time referenced being earlier this year.
That is a lie - I'm not saying anything more, other than it's not hard
to find instances of Bush lying. Same for Clinton. Even our own Jean
Chretien. But to say that he *didn't* lie, or misrepresent, is just
plain idiocy.
Joey Berger
wrote:
Two words for you: (Lone teen ranger, j/k): Karl Rove
Go. Read. This. Now.
Fascincating profile - best journalism I've read in a long time.
http://bnfp.org/neighborhood/Lemann_Rove_NYM.htm
Joey Berger
Joey Berger
>>The link I gave basically reprinted the Washington Post story ...
>>
>
>
>
>but is it on CNN, CBS or A and NBC? That is the mainstream.
Perhaps there is no mainstream - perhaps too many have removed
themselves from the spectrum to allow for a mainstream.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Bill
>
>"The last time the French asked for 'more proof' it came marching into
>Paris under a German flag."
>--David Letterman
>
>"I just love the French. They taste like chicken!"
> --- Hannibal Lecter
>
Joey Berger
Joey Berger
>>Didn't MLK wack arm-in-arm with Abraham Joshua Heschel
>
>
>
>
>trying to resist...
>:-P
D'oh!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Bill
>
>"The last time the French asked for 'more proof' it came marching into
>Paris under a German flag."
>--David Letterman
>
>"I just love the French. They taste like chicken!"
> --- Hannibal Lecter
>
Joey Berger
Who Me
>them in."
>
>Him, referring to Saddam, the time referenced being earlier this year.
>That is a lie -
Depends on your point of reference. How do you want to look at it. It's clearly
less of a lie than Willie Clinton (which I took personally, because he pointed
his finger at me when he said it) saying "I did not have sexual relations with
that woman..." See, Saddam id pure evil. Saddame should have been removed. The
same people who are looking for every instrance of GWB stretching the truth
will justify every instance of bullshit in a Michael Moore ""documentary.""
This bothers me. I'd be less defensive of GWB if a lie was always a lie, even
if it was told in what is perceived to be a good cause. Still, for me, the
bottom line is Saddam is evil. Saddam did keep inspectors out of Iraq for
years. Who knows what he did with the weapons during those years? The odds,
however, are not good that he chose to destroy them and not tell anyone.
Who Me
>themselves from the spectrum to allow for a mainstream.
The mainstream would be that from which most people get their ""news"" (and ABC
seems quite proud of pointing out, several times a day, that more people get
their ""news"" from ABC than from any other source). My gripe today, however,
is with NBC. I tuned in a ""news"" program this evening, simply because I
didn't feel I knew enough about what's going on in Liberia. Well, it was
honestly 15 minutes into the ""newscast"" before Liberia was mentioned, THEN
the local station cut in to tell us that all storm warnings and watches had
expired!!! WTF?!?!?
Joey Berger
>>"We gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn't let
>>them in."
>>
>>Him, referring to Saddam, the time referenced being earlier this year.
>>That is a lie -
>
>
>Depends on your point of reference. How do you want to look at it. It's clearly
>less of a lie than Willie Clinton (which I took personally, because he pointed
>his finger at me when he said it) saying "I did not have sexual relations with
>that woman..." See, Saddam id pure evil. Saddame should have been removed. The
>same people who are looking for every instrance of GWB stretching the truth
>will justify every instance of bullshit in a Michael Moore ""documentary.""
>This bothers me. I'd be less defensive of GWB if a lie was always a lie, even
>if it was told in what is perceived to be a good cause. Still, for me, the
>bottom line is Saddam is evil. Saddam did keep inspectors out of Iraq for
>years. Who knows what he did with the weapons during those years? The odds,
>however, are not good that he chose to destroy them and not tell anyone.
That's all fine and good, but you must admit that he did lie - and
this particular lie is strange, even for Bush. I mean, he could say a
whole bunch of other lies, rumours and innuendo, right (hasn't he in
the past - check out www.bushwatch.com for an annotated archive), but
in this case he actually seemed to not have a clue as to what the hell
has been going on for the last ten months. It's not that it was for "a
good cause," as you imply, but almost has if he has a blatant
disregard for, and disdain for, the truth. Finally, I don't know how
one lie can be "less of a lie" than another ("clearly" to boot).
Either a lie is a lie or it's not. Perhaps Clinton lying about his sex
life is worse to you than Bush lying about a war that has killed too
many of your fellow citizens, but it doesn't make it any less of a
lie. And it doesn't have anything to do with Saddam being "pure evil,"
or Michael Moore's mishandling of the truth - then again, I must be
one of those people who justifying everything MM does (which sort of
doesn't fit with the beginning of this run-on sentence).
I guess the point is that if we weren't so ideologically blind, and
could call a spade a spade or a lie a lie, regardless of its utterer
(new word? What does the jury say?), our democracy - and our discourse
- would be a lot more meaningful.
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>Bill
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>"The last time the French asked for 'more proof' it came marching into
>Paris under a German flag."
>--David Letterman
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>"I just love the French. They taste like chicken!"
> --- Hannibal Lecter
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Joey Berger
Joey Berger
>>Perhaps there is no mainstream - perhaps too many have removed
>>themselves from the spectrum to allow for a mainstream.
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>The mainstream would be that from which most people get their ""news"" (and ABC
>seems quite proud of pointing out, several times a day, that more people get
>their ""news"" from ABC than from any other source). My gripe today, however,
>is with NBC. I tuned in a ""news"" program this evening, simply because I
>didn't feel I knew enough about what's going on in Liberia. Well, it was
>honestly 15 minutes into the ""newscast"" before Liberia was mentioned, THEN
>the local station cut in to tell us that all storm warnings and watches had
>expired!!! WTF?!?!?
Oy. I don't think "most people" actually get news. Some of them try
and get it, but have an undeserved faith in corporate media. But I
think a lot of people are content to toss their hands in the air and
give up. I mean that - really content. It's sad, and if the FCC has
its way, it'll get a lot worse. Bill, do you ever watch CBC news?
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>Bill
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>"The last time the French asked for 'more proof' it came marching into
>Paris under a German flag."
>--David Letterman
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>"I just love the French. They taste like chicken!"
> --- Hannibal Lecter
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Joey Berger
Cathy Friedmann
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> I guess the point is that if we weren't so ideologically blind, and
> could call a spade a spade or a lie a lie, regardless of its utterer
> (new word? What does the jury say?)
Works for me. If "utterance" & "utterly" (but no real connection
context-wise w/ the latter) are okay, why not an "er" suffix? Granted, the
two "er"s in a row are a bit awkward, but hey, its meaning is clear. ;-)
Cathy
--
"Staccato signals of constant information..."
("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon
, our democracy - and our discourse
willy
We are in agreement! Someone notify the authorities!!
Who Me
>one lie can be "less of a lie" than another
Saddam DID buy uranium.
Who Me
>one of those people who justifying everything MM does
hell of an admission.
Cathy Friedmann
Cathy
--
"Staccato signals of constant information..."
("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon
"willy" <wi...@willy.com.invalid> wrote in message
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Who Me
Rarely. My reception sucks. For hockey, however, at least prior to ABC going
HD, it was worth fiddling with my antenna.
Remind me tomorrow to tell you about the day I gave up on tv news. Past my
bedtime now...
Joey Berger
>>- then again, I must be
>>one of those people who justifying everything MM does
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>hell of an admission.
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Too bad it's not the truth though.
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>Bill
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>"The last time the French asked for 'more proof' it came marching into
>Paris under a German flag."
>--David Letterman
>
>"I just love the French. They taste like chicken!"
> --- Hannibal Lecter
>
Joey Berger
Joey Berger
>>Bill, do you ever watch CBC news?
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>Rarely. My reception sucks. For hockey, however, at least prior to ABC going
>HD, it was worth fiddling with my antenna.
>Remind me tomorrow to tell you about the day I gave up on tv news. Past my
>bedtime now...
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Just curious. It and PBS (especially NOW with Bill Moyers) is about
all the TV news I can stomach. I enjoy CBC radio and NPR, and some
talk shows (Charlie Rose) and I guess 60 Minutes (it's just so smug),
but really, I decided a while ago that braodcast news is for those who
don't really look for depth. Thank goodness for the proliferation of
print media on the 'net, not to mention the diversity of viewpoints,
and, yes, forums like these.
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>Bill
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>"The last time the French asked for 'more proof' it came marching into
>Paris under a German flag."
>--David Letterman
>
>"I just love the French. They taste like chicken!"
> --- Hannibal Lecter
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Joey Berger
Who Me
>going
>>HD, it was worth fiddling with my antenna.
>>Remind me tomorrow to tell you about the day I gave up on tv news. Past my
>>bedtime now...
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>Just curious. It and PBS (especially NOW with Bill Moyers) is about
>all the TV news I can stomach.
Tell ya what; I did tune in the CBC on February 1 of this year (the shuttle
disaster). Earlier I had been watching the Fox network, and they were reporting
that the vehicle came apart over Nagadocious, TX. I tuned in the CBC, and saw
them reporting that it was Nagadoches. Without question, I immediately
concluded that it was the Fox people who were morons.
Moyers is way too liberal for me. Too bad. He used to do good stuff.
I stopped watching TV news back during the Tonya Harding/Nanct Kerrigan
incident. That having happened here, it was, of course, even bigger news. I
came home one evening and turned on the TV, and the first 15 minutes of the
news was about this. The second big story at the time was Loreena Bobbit.
Another then minutes. Their third story that night was about this guy who had
wanted a sex change operation, but couldn't afford it, so, he got himself a
steak knife...
When they showed the video of the bloody chair where he had done it, I knew I
didn't need to be seeing any more of this.