Art Garfunkel's recent comments
TooDef2see
misunderstanding? Art Garfunkel recalls it that way. "The main reason we split
was because, at a certain moment, I felt like taking a pause, to rest for a
little bit," Garfunkel recently told the London Times. "Paul took it as the end
of our cooperation. He said he would never work with me again. But you should
ask him now ... I would really love to hear what his answer would be." Who
wouldn't?>>>>
Joey Berger
wrote:
Then Art should just call him and ask. If I heard S&G were getting
back together, I think I'd be really upset.
Joey Berger
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Joey Berger
<clea...@w.a.s.t.e.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:04:59 GMT, Joey Berger <pa...@simon.org> wrote:
>
>>If I heard S&G were getting
>>back together, I think I'd be really upset.
>
>Just out of curiosity, why?
Because I think it would be a step in the wrong direction, at least
for Paul. First of all, Think Too Much proved that the S&G magic would
not be easily recaptured. Second of all, well, not even that far off,
S&G has been done - Paul Simon has expanded musically in directions
that are not really suited to Simon & Garfunkel. And I like those
areas better than the Simon & Garfunkel Sound(tm), as much as I love
that. If they did some shows together, well, that's cool, but to
reunite as a partnership - no way!
WhoMe
>voice.
Then buy Art's solo albums. The songs he chooses on those are better sutied to
his voice than something like "The Obvious Child" would be anyway.
Bill
"It will destroy your family, your happy home is gone
No one can protect you from it once you turn it on."
-- Bob Dylan
T.V. Talkin' Song
Bishmark
music that they do best as a duet but that Paul would continue with the things
that he does best as a soloist too.
Mark
Wilkie
they tried for H & B and failed, it was because Paul realized that he
contributes way too much in terms of creativity to allow Art to come in and
basically have a 50% say as to the production of the music. He's even
farther along in his musical power now than he was back then, so I don't see
it happening in any way.
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Gerard Eastwood
Joey, I agree with you that a new S&G collaboration would likely disapoint.
I also think it would be unlikely to happen.
My impression is that Art Garfunkel is locked into the idea of re-creation
that music and that sound as it was back in the 60's, whereas Paul music has
clearly moved onward and upward. Rightly Paul would not release control of
the process to Art as was done back then. Having been in an equal creative
partnership with Paul (at the production level) Art would unlikely be
comfortable with taking a secondary role in any new work.
I think that "My Little Town" is an example of how Paul could use their
voices to good effect and in new ways from the S & G 60's period. Artie has
stated that he does not like that song and did not enjoy the process of
recording that with Paul. That is the key to their differences and why it
would unlikely succeed.
Over his career Paul has re-invented himself musically many times and is
determined not to just repeat old work. Art's work has largely stuck to the
same formula.
It is a pity that they couldn't have a professional relationship whereby
they could both be comfortable with their solo careers and yet Paul would be
able to approach Artie to assist with new material where appropriate to his
vision just as he has done very successfully with many musicians over the
years. I think Artie would have too much expectation that such
collaboration would have to be on equal terms and on a permanant basis. If
the many post S & G collaborators of Paul's had that same expectation the
body of his work would be vastly different (if existing at all) to what he
has produced.
This is not intended to put down Artie contribution to the S & G work (I
don't like all his solo work but some work - especially Breakaway LP is
great and showcases his wonderful voice). My point is that Paul as the
songwriter has maintained full control over his work since 1970 and it is
illogical that he would allow that control to be lost. There are many
examples of how his many collaborators have influenced his work but Paul has
clearly maintained creative control over his work. Isn't that what you
would expect after all these years.
Gerard Eastwood
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Philipp Boerker
>>>>>Did Simon and Garfunkel break up way back when because of a wee
>misunderstanding?
Well, they broke up because their recording contract ended. They in fact
had only one contract with Columbia which included 6 options to extend the
contract by one more year. (The royalties changed from 8% to 10% over the
years. Paul Simon got an extra 2 cents per composition on single records
and 1.5 cents per composition on all other records. They also had to
record a given number of songs.)
The last option on an additional year was exercised in December 1969
and commenced on February, 10th 1970. This fits well with the break-up,
doesn't it?
Greets,
Philipp.
--
Philipp Boerker - Gr...@cs.tu-berlin.de
in principio erat verbum - the rest is silence
(John) (Hamlet)
WhoMe
>and commenced on February, 10th 1970. This fits well with the break-up,
>doesn't it?
...but was not the cause.
Philipp Boerker
>>The last option on an additional year was exercised in December 1969
>>and commenced on February, 10th 1970. This fits well with the break-up,
>>doesn't it?
>...but was not the cause.
Well, a lot of people say that Art's tries on acting ended the duo but in
fact the duo lasted only that long because of their recording contract.
IMHO BOTW was mostly Paul Simon stuff with Art's voice added to it. (some
will say that this is what S&G were about anyway... :)
Greets,
Phil.
WhoMe
>fact the duo lasted only that long because of their recording contract
BUT the expiration of a recording contract was NOT the CAUSE of the breakup.
Philipp Boerker
>>Well, a lot of people say that Art's tries on acting ended the duo but in
>>fact the duo lasted only that long because of their recording contract
>BUT the expiration of a recording contract was NOT the CAUSE of the breakup.
Admiting this was implied by my reply.
Regards,
Micheal & Carol Alaniz
in awhile. I agree with you completely.
Carol A..
Kabuky
and found you to be RIGHT on target. I totally agreed w/your comments that
neither Paul nor Art would relinquish their "right" to have 50% control of any
music they might want to produce "together". So sad........I agreed that if
Paul and Art could have worked together as friends with unequal give and take
(such as they probably did back in the 60's) with sometimes Paul taking the
lead, sometimes Art taking the lead on their respective solo albums, that it
would be a win/win/win situation w/fans and themselves having such wonderful
musical experience. It goes back to trust and friendship, respect and the
ability to relinquish and accept control....none of which I think either are
able to do right now in this phase of their relationship. So sad to see but,
having been there myself, I understand the problem. Hope they get back on
track someday on a road to friendship!! Deb
WhoMe
>lead, sometimes Art taking the lead on their respective solo albums, that it
>would be a win/win/win situation w/fans and themselves having such wonderful
>musical experience.
I don't feel there is anything lacking in my Paul Simon musical experiences...
Chris Stern
" WhoMe" <bkaw...@aol.coma> wrote in message
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> >with sometimes Paul taking the
> >lead, sometimes Art taking the lead on their respective solo albums, that
it
> >would be a win/win/win situation w/fans and themselves having such
wonderful
> >musical experience.
>
>
> I don't feel there is anything lacking in my Paul Simon musical
experiences...
>
>
>
Chris
SNUMBER6
>The greatest musical experience of my life was S&G live.
>
>Chris
Two voices and one guitar ?? That's my favorite also ...
In the Village ....
I am not a number ... I am a free man !!!!
Chris Stern
"SNUMBER6" <snum...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From: "Chris Stern" <cws...@mediaone.net>
>
> >The greatest musical experience of my life was S&G live.
> >
> >Chris
>
> Two voices and one guitar ?? That's my favorite also ...
>
>
>
One guitar played by Paul Simon at his peak as a guitarist. He brought 4
onstage. (Larry Knechtel for Bridge on the piano)
The songs of Paul Simon!
Superb venue (RAH)
Literally spellbinding
Chris
WhoMe
Well, for me, the real art of Paul Simon, with or without a second voice, has
been in making truly great records.
Chris Stern
" WhoMe" <bkaw...@aol.coma> wrote in message
> >The greatest musical experience of my life was S&G live.
>
>
> Well, for me, the real art of Paul Simon, with or without a second voice,
has
> been in making truly great records.
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
>
Chris
Wilkie
WhoMe <bkaw...@aol.coma> wrote in message
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> >The greatest musical experience of my life was S&G live.
>
>
> Well, for me, the real art of Paul Simon, with or without a second voice,
has
> been in making truly great records.
>
>
And Paul admits himself that he's not the greatest live performer out there.
You really have to love the music, which love is generated by the
recordings.
Chris Stern
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> >
> And Paul admits himself that he's not the greatest live performer out
there.
> You really have to love the music, which love is generated by the
> recordings.
>
Well does he now? Amazing how many young kids were up on their feet last
year at the Paul/Bob concerts and a look at a few past reviews might suggest
a different perspective. Way back in 64/65 he stunned English folk club
audiences who had never heard of him never mind the songs. S&G were amazing
live, the Live Rhymin tour was superb as was the Still Crazy tour and for me
solo I enjoyed the One Trick Pony concerts best of all. Then there were the
Graceland concerts with Ladysmith Black Mambazo etc and then the Born at the
Right TIMe Tour where Paul was a consumate performer at the peak of his
powers.
When did we see a less than great performance? As a Brit I missed his US
solo tour in 83 or 4 but have been told that he was magnificent.
Chris