Have You Ever/Dirty Magic Debate
Todd Rybicki
of the chorus in Dirty Magic. My question is.....do you think the
Offspring did this intentionally? If so,why? Did they just like the way
it sounded? Or do you think they didn't realize until after the records
had been pressed?
Gabesdbest
>Date: Mon, Dec 7, 1998 17:29 EST
>Message-id: <74hks6$f3vi$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>
Even though it is possible, it's kind of hard to imagine writting two songs
with such similar choruses and not realizing it. Especially since the same
four people wrote both songs and have continued played Dirty Magic since
Ignition was released 6 or 7 years ago.
To me it seems like they might have used the chorus intentionally. They reused
the same guitar riff from Genocide on Ixnay, and also did the remake of
Feelings so they don't seem to have a problem with recycling old material.
Though they have released a lot of original material and original lyrics on all
of their albums, I think they were probably writing Have You Ever and that
chorus came up and they thought it went well with the song.
jan...@my-dejanews.com
UBD...@prodigy.com (Todd Rybicki) wrote:
> I assume everyone has noticed the chorus on this song is similiar to that
> of the chorus in Dirty Magic. My question is.....do you think the
> Offspring did this intentionally? If so,why? Did they just like the way
> it sounded? Or do you think they didn't realize until after the records
> had been pressed?
>
To be honest, I did NOT think the songs were similar on the first few listens,
and still feel the same way. Dirty Magic is one of my favorite songs,too.
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Mr_Dog
the context of each song, Dirty Magic's chorus obviously being played a lot
slower. I reckon they liked that combo and just sped it up a bit to put on
Have You Ever to make what I reckon is a damned cool song.
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Todd Rybicki wrote in message
<74hks6$f3vi$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>...
>I assume everyone has noticed the chorus on this song is similiar to that
>of the chorus in Dirty Magic. My question is.....do you think the
>Offspring did this intentionally? If so,why? Did they just like the way
>it sounded? Or do you think they didn't realize until after the records
>had been pressed?
>
>Todd
>UBD...@prodigy.com
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>
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Todd Rybicki
listens,
>and still feel the same way. Dirty Magic is one of my favorite songs,
too.
>
>
>
>--
>Janet
Janet I didn't either on the first few listens. But listen to the
choruses on both songs. When he goes "Some days my soul's confined and
out of mind sleep forever......some days i'm so outshined and out of time
have you ever" is very similiar to the line in Dirty magic that goes
"Pull the shades.....razor blades...you're so tragic...I hate you so....
but love you more....I'm so elastic....the things you say.....games you
play....dirty magic". Go back and listen to those parts and tell me if
you find a slight similarity. I'm not saying they are identical but
slightly identical.
Todd Rybicki
>
>If u listen to both songs back to back they are quite different when put
in
>the context of each song, Dirty Magic's chorus obviously being played a
lot
>slower. I reckon they liked that combo and just sped it up a bit to put
on
>Have You Ever to make what I reckon is a damned cool song.
>
>--
>MD
You are right about both songs being good. When it all comes down to it,
each song has something going for it. So that's really all that counts.
Andrew
they sing "Falling, I'm Falling".
tom.bagwell
then Have you Ever, they sound very similiar to me
Mr_Dog wrote in message <366d5...@nnrp1.news.uk.psi.net>...
>If u listen to both songs back to back they are quite different when put in
>the context of each song, Dirty Magic's chorus obviously being played a lot
>slower. I reckon they liked that combo and just sped it up a bit to put on
>Have You Ever to make what I reckon is a damned cool song.
>
>--
>MD
>
StrychNyne
>out of mind sleep forever......some days i'm so outshined and out of time
>have you ever" is very similiar to the line in Dirty magic that goes
>"Pull the shades.....razor blades...you're so tragic...I hate you so....
>but love you more....I'm so elastic....the things you say.....games you
>play....dirty magic".
He's right, it does sound the same...I noticed it the first time I heard Have
You Ever. But they're both awesome songs so I guess they knew what they were
doing!!
Strych
Brad Weber
Andrew wrote:
> Listen to All I Want from Ixnay, and that also sounds like the part where
> they sing "Falling, I'm Falling".
Man, it's punk music, it all sounds the same.
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jan...@my-dejanews.com
OK, I see the similarities now that I've listened a few times--virtually
identical but a little faster. Coincidence--maybe not. This would've been an
interesting thing to bring up in the chat a couple of weeks ago (or maybe on
Rockline/Modern Rock Live this weekend!).
Maybe some of you can find work as copyright attorneys!