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Um, this IS NOT a 311 or KKK newsgroup!
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-Lauren-
"Do Well and Doubt Not"
Also, do you know you are posting to the friends, no doubt, hole, and korn
sites?
this totally untrue accusation has floated around since the band got
together, and it has been cleared up too many times to count. in their
hometown (i forget where), "311" is the police code for public indecency
or indecent exposure or something like that. the 3-11 connection is not
only a coincidence, but a real stretch, and it was probably a KKK member
who concocted that idea.
oh, i see, so even though the band explained what the name really means,
there's still a possibility that they're connected with a bunch of
hood-wearing racist assholes? if you wanna incite ignorance fear and
hate, try a go somewhere else
Kevin Clow wrote in message <3611A6...@pei.sympatico.ca>...
>Tim Hodge wrote:
>> No, it stands for KKK, that's why they sing racist lyrics.
>
>your simean continence suggests a heritage rich in species diversity.
>you don't know shit, so stop talkin' shit. dumbass.
Buffs...@yahoo.com wrote in message <6urnhq$bhq$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>I heard that the music group 311's name stands for KKK?
>Is this true? Please clarify. Thanx a bunch!
>
>HEY,
> I HEARD THAT TOO. BUT 311 STANDS FOR THE POLICE CODE FOR INDEACENT
>EXPOSIER.
No, it stands for KKK, that's why they sing racist lyrics.
your simean continence suggests a heritage rich in species diversity.
If 311 are not racists then explain why they'd be singing racist lyrics.
if you're going to make that stupid accusation, back it up. quote a
racist lyric from a 311 song.
dont bother.
if 311 were racist, say members of the kkk, then somebody should explain to
them that doug (sa) is hispanic, therefore if theyre so big on the klan they
shouldnt associate with him so politely.
>Tim Hodge wrote:
>>
>> Kevin Clow <das...@pei.sympatico.ca> meowed:
>>
>> >Tim Hodge wrote:
>> >> No, it stands for KKK, that's why they sing racist lyrics.
>> >
>> >your simean continence suggests a heritage rich in species diversity.
>> >you don't know shit, so stop talkin' shit. dumbass.
>>
>> If 311 are not racists then explain why they'd be singing racist lyrics.
>
>if you're going to make that stupid accusation, back it up. quote a
>racist lyric from a 311 song.
If you've ever heard a 311 song before you'd know that just about every
lyric in their songs are racist. If you can't pick one out you'd have to
either be really stupid or someone who so far in to his/her racism that
you think it's normal and you don't even notice it when something racist
is said around you.
people, this is what is called a "straw-man" argument. when asked to
prove something he knows is untrue, he responds with further stupidity,
name-calling and accusations, in an attempt to divert from the facts.
he probably thinks he's clever for it. for the record, racism pisses me
off, and i do recognize it when i see/hear it. (can you say "Tommy
Hilfinger"? i knew you could)
>No .....don't thik so, the numbers don't add up in any way...except k is the
>11th letter of the alphabet...don't think so though.
K is the 11th letter of the alphabet
K 3 times is KKK
311 = KKK
Have a nice day.
<sigh> This is *not* the reason for 311's name. In their home town of Omaha,
Nebraska, 311 is the police code for indecent exposure. They preach UNITY, for
God's sake. Always have. Why do people keep bringing up the KKK shit?
> well there still shit, not "the shit", just plan SHIT
Well, since "there" shit, why did you reply?
Oh yeah... Learn proper grammar you stupid fuck.
Erik
> Erik Hammonds <er...@alaweb.com> meowed:
>
> >Tim Hodge wrote:
> >
> >> "fubar" <rp...@kc-primary.net> meowed:
> >>
> >> >No .....don't thik so, the numbers don't add up in any way...except k is the
> >> >11th letter of the alphabet...don't think so though.
> >>
> >> K is the 11th letter of the alphabet
> >> K 3 times is KKK
> >> 311 = KKK
> >>
> >> Have a nice day.
> >
> ><sigh> This is *not* the reason for 311's name. In their home town of Omaha,
> >Nebraska, 311 is the police code for indecent exposure.
>
> PPOSTFU.
>
> > They preach UNITY, for
> >God's sake. Always have. Why do people keep bringing up the KKK shit?
>
> Because it's true.
I bet one of your cool pals told you that. Heh... What a stupid bastard you are.
Erik
> Buffs...@yahoo.com wrote in message
<6urnhq$bhq$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
This is called a dodge, it's something fuckheads do when they're losing
an arguement.
>What I heard was that 311 is a police code for a public disturbance. So
>there you go
That's bullshit.
no, you're the one losing. you can't prove that you're right because
you can't quote a racist lyric from a 311 song, and the police code
explanation is a fact, not a speculation.
indeed
but if i have to say something like that, id rather say the mans real name,
tommy hilfiger
>Tim Hodge wrote:
>> This is called a dodge, it's something fuckheads do when they're losing
>> an arguement.
>
>no, you're the one losing.
If I were losing you wouldn't have dodged it.
> you can't prove that you're right because
>you can't quote a racist lyric from a 311 song, and the police code
>explanation is a fact, not a speculation.
If it's the fact, then why are there so many people saying that it was
their apartment number? The only fact is that 311 stands for KKK and 311
is a racist group.
i didn't dodge anything, you're the one who hasn't presented any facts.
an accusation is not a fact. unless you can quote a racist lyric from a
311 song, you haven't proven anything. you're not "winning" because
your argument was nothing from the moment you turned on your computer
> If it's the fact, then why are there so many people saying that it was
> their apartment number?
well, i haven't seen one person on any of these cross posts suggest the
apartment number theory. you want fact? here's the band's statement on
the issue:
"It has come to our attention that there is a very unsettling rumor
circulating regarding the name of our band '311.' We have been told that
certain white supremacist groups use the numbers 311 to represent the
KKK. This is a most unfortunate coincidence and one that is extremely
disturbing to us. We would like to state for the record that this is
completely at odds with our personal beliefs. We believe the only people
worth hating are organized haters like the KKK. Anyone familiar with our
lyrics knows how we feel. Our lyrics make a strong stand against racism
and a strong stand for positivity & unity. The name of our band
originally comes from an Omaha police citation for indecent exposure. We
thought it was funny at the time. Now our name simply means - five
friends from Omaha making music, music that stands for peace and unity."
Sincerely, 311
> The only fact is that 311 stands for KKK and 311
> is a racist group.
yeah, whatever, a bunch of racists singing for peace and unity? go back
under the rock you crawled from, you know-nothing hatemonger
> Why do people keep bringing up the KKK shit?
as far as i can tell, 2 reasons:
1) people are stupid and willing to believe anything
2) people just like to stir up shit even when they know they're wrong
>Tim Hodge wrote:
>> If I were losing you wouldn't have dodged it.
>
>i didn't dodge anything, you're the one who hasn't presented any facts.
>an accusation is not a fact. unless you can quote a racist lyric from a
>311 song, you haven't proven anything. you're not "winning" because
>your argument was nothing from the moment you turned on your computer
Post undenable proof that 311 is not racist or STFU.
>> If it's the fact, then why are there so many people saying that it was
>> their apartment number?
>
>well, i haven't seen one person on any of these cross posts suggest the
>apartment number theory.
It's been mentioned several times in alt.music.311
> you want fact? here's the band's statement on
>the issue:
Just because they said it doesn't make it fact, they're just kissing up
to the media.
<snip 311's lies>
>> The only fact is that 311 stands for KKK and 311
>> is a racist group.
>
>yeah, whatever, a bunch of racists singing for peace and unity?
That's not what they're singing for. They're singing for white power,
and racists like you are supporting them by claiming it's ok.
> go back
>under the rock you crawled from, you know-nothing hatemonger
I'm not the racist 311 fan, you are, STFU hatemonger.
>Tim Hodge wrote:
>
>> "fubar" <rp...@kc-primary.net> meowed:
>>
>> >No .....don't thik so, the numbers don't add up in any way...except k is the
>> >11th letter of the alphabet...don't think so though.
>>
>> K is the 11th letter of the alphabet
>> K 3 times is KKK
>> 311 = KKK
>>
>> Have a nice day.
>
><sigh> This is *not* the reason for 311's name. In their home town of Omaha,
>Nebraska, 311 is the police code for indecent exposure.
PPOSTFU.
> They preach UNITY, for
>God's sake. Always have. Why do people keep bringing up the KKK shit?
Because it's true.
>Erik Hammonds wrote:
>
>> Why do people keep bringing up the KKK shit?
>
>as far as i can tell, 2 reasons:
>1) people are stupid and willing to believe anything
>2) people just like to stir up shit even when they know they're wrong
Much like you're doing right now.
>Tim Hodge wrote:
>
>> Erik Hammonds <er...@alaweb.com> meowed:
>>
>> >Tim Hodge wrote:
>> >
>> >> "fubar" <rp...@kc-primary.net> meowed:
>> >>
>> >> >No .....don't thik so, the numbers don't add up in any way...except k is the
>> >> >11th letter of the alphabet...don't think so though.
>> >>
>> >> K is the 11th letter of the alphabet
>> >> K 3 times is KKK
>> >> 311 = KKK
>> >>
>> >> Have a nice day.
>> >
>> ><sigh> This is *not* the reason for 311's name. In their home town of Omaha,
>> >Nebraska, 311 is the police code for indecent exposure.
>>
>> PPOSTFU.
>>
>> > They preach UNITY, for
>> >God's sake. Always have. Why do people keep bringing up the KKK shit?
>>
>> Because it's true.
>
>I bet one of your cool pals told you that.
No, it was pretty obvious after listening to 311.
> Heh... What a stupid bastard you are.
P/K/B, you're the one who can't even face the truth.
>
>well there still shit, not "the shit", just plan SHIT
All racists are shit.
undenable... ::::getting out moron dictionary::: oh you mean undeniable! ok..
theres this song called electricity on the transistor album, and it happens to
be the 2nd version. originally it was called f*ck the kkk, take a guess on to
what the original lyrics might be..actually i think nick posted them
once..anyway the changed lyrics go something like what follows:
This song started as a rant against haters
But that'd be giving in to the instigators
If there is one thing I'd like to pull off
When someone steps with hate all I do is scoff
You can't burn me
Can't burn me
The same force that flows through every circuit
The juice that is spent everytime you work it
Every life form is based on this simplicity
The soul that you have is electricity
You can't avoid that
Evolution is fact
We're all from the same Lucy
Despite differences you see
I'm in disbelief at what people will believe
All along I thought we had our hearts on our shirtsleeve
If one thing I can say as a piece of advice
Don't believe it till you see it and then see it twice
It's so funny
It's not funny
The same force that flows through every circuit
The juice thats spent everytime you work it
Every life form is based on this simplicity
The soul that you have is electricity
You can't avoid that
Evolution is fact
We're all from the same Lucy
Despite differences you see
A call out for unity
In every province and city
What do you think we've been saying
Since we first started playing
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so if theyre still a bunch of racist bastards, then you go ahead and believe
whatever your pathetic heart desires
That's kinda funny since if you have the home video "Enlarged to Show Deatail"
(or something like that, I haven't watched it in awhile) they say "Fuck the
KKK!"
And if they were in the KKK Nick wouldn't have song with the Edge since the
frontman is black.
-=Jennifer=-
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all that we're fed. So f-ck all your protests and put them to bed."-Marilyn
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kinda like a pig. God, I hate that retard girl."-Hole
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>"SEVSIN" <Seven...@hotmail.com> meowed:
>
>>
>>well there still shit, not "the shit", just plan SHIT
>
>All racists are shit.
What does that have to do with anything???
Soon will come that precious moment
That we created last night
Once again just a process of sin
Depends who's eyes you're looking through
- Juice