: I heard just now on the radio that Kurt Cobain was found this morning at
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: I heard just now on the radio that Kurt Cobain was found this morning at
This is true. At approximately 8:40 am, Kurt Cobain's body was found in
an upstairs outdoor cottage at a house he owned in Seattle. There have
been three positive ID's of the body, and a long rambling suicide note
found written in Kurt's hand that purportedly was actually a song he was
writing trying to make something rhyme with the word 'beable'. He had
shot himself in the face with a twelve gauge shotgun, so the ID process
is still under way, but people close to him confirm that it is him.
Evidently, he'd been missing for six days.
So many of Nirvana's songs dealt with this predicament. The tear in our
hearts between being like our parents and striving for something better.
So when I heard on the radio (KROQ the local alternative station) that
Curt Cobain, the lead singer of Nirvana (for those who don't know), had
committed suicide, I was devastated. Here was a group that began to
explore the questions I've been exploring. A group that's message really
struck a chord with me.
From the interviews I've read and what the local DJ's mentioned I know
that Curt has lead a turbulent life in the spotlight. Stomach Troubles,
Alcohol binges, an unwillingness to be the leader of a generation, a
sudden fame. My heart goes out to the family of Curt Cobain, his wife
Courtney Love and their child.
Curt Cobain Rest in Peace at last.
Roman
Finally, somebody with a sense of sanity. Now, for the rest of you, you
burned out watchers of Beavis & Butthead, get a life. This goddamn newsgroup
is more redundant than Nirvana's basslines.
>Why is this always happening. You'd think that our generation would be
>different. That we could learn from the past, that we could deal with
>pressures better then those of past generations.
Oh, your first dead rock star trauma. And here I am, without my camcorder.
Son, when I was your age...<gag>
No, seriously, it sucks. And I was just getting into his music at last.
Great. Now I can mourn another one.
Hey! You *were* supposed to be able to deal with those pressures better!
Your generation is falling down on the job! Heads up guys.
Actually I think my generation had it easy and this is just the beginning.
I can hear a few others singing from the Nightmare World. Of course,
it's my national anthem.
-patricia
I wanted to see what people had to say about him. But let me tell you what
I've read about a hundred times:
An electrician found the body of Kurt Cobain in his house with a gunshot
wound to his head this morning. Get a fucking sense of humor, and watch the
movie Sid & Nancy. I'm not sure why you didn't see this coming anyway.
love,
[ rest of sobbing, deleted ... ]
Look, I didn't give a fuck about Nirvana or Cobain when they were obscure
and still playing on WEGL in 1992, our college radio station. I didn't
give a fuck about Nirvana/Cobain when they were playing on commercial
radio. And now that he's dead, I still don't give a fuck about what's
left of Nirvana or Cobain. How's that for impartiality?
And puhleeeeeze don't mention this "our generation" crap. You can't speak
for all twentysomethings, and neither can I, although I am a
twentysomething too. "Our generation" is extremely diverse, fragmented, and
partitioned like none other before us. I have no doubt you speak for a
specific subculture of the twentysomething generation, but you cannot speak
for all of the subcultures. I speak for my subculture, and I say *I* *DON'T*
*CARE*.
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: >Why is this always happening. You'd think that our generation would be
: >different. That we could learn from the past, that we could deal with
: >pressures better then those of past generations.
: No, seriously, it sucks. And I was just getting into his music at last.
: Great. Now I can mourn another one.
: Hey! You *were* supposed to be able to deal with those pressures better!
: Your generation is falling down on the job! Heads up guys.
Well, it's about noon on Saturday morning and people are treating this
guy like a God now. Just like the other generation before us did with
Jimi Hendrix. *YAWN*. Sure, heroin can produce some interesting music,
but I don't feel sorry for anyone on junk that shoots himself in the head
with a 12 guage. Stupid. I think we should give all the stupid people in
the world heroin and a twelve guage so we can weed out the gene pool. The
only thing I'm sorry about now is that the guy actually bred. And what
kind of a person writes a suicide note trying to make a rhyme with the
word "beable"?
>Well, it's about noon on Saturday morning and people are treating this
>guy like a God now. Just like the other generation before us did with
>Jimi Hendrix. *YAWN*. Sure, heroin can produce some interesting music,
>but I don't feel sorry for anyone on junk that shoots himself in the head
>with a 12 guage. Stupid. I think we should give all the stupid people in
>the world heroin and a twelve guage so we can weed out the gene pool. The
>only thing I'm sorry about now is that the guy actually bred. And what
>kind of a person writes a suicide note trying to make a rhyme with the
>word "beable"?
Ahem. Please reserve judgement on the influence of drugs in
this one, okay? Here's another possible explanation: his OD
in Italy really was an accident and it left him damaged in
some way (mental/physical) that was covered up. He couldn't
deal with it and that lead to his death. That would explain
the band break-up rumors that were floating around the LA
Times last week, as well as the quote from Kurt Loder on MTV
(I paraphrase): "A source close to the band told MTV News
that the break-up story, while bad, wasn't anywhere near as
bad as what was really going on."
Bottom line: Who knows.
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Matthew 25:36. Do YOUR part write the prisoners of the WOD! email for info.
First off, why insult Frances Bean for something that her father chose
to do? Secondly, this is the second time I've read about the "beable"
rumour, where the fuck do you guys keep hearing about this stuff?
--
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Ecstasy Breath. glov...@ecf.utoronto.ca. Etobicoke, Ontario, Canada.
Man, are you posting to the wrong group (a.r.k) expecting sympathy for
Kurt Cobain.
>--
>"..When I was in prision you came to visit me..When did we visit you when
>you were ill or in prision? The King will answer them: 'I assure you, as
>often as you did it for one of my least brothers, you did it for me'"
>Matthew 25:36. Do YOUR part write the prisoners of the WOD! email for info.
Prisoners of WOD? Prisoners of the World of Darkness? :^)
M.
Yeah, but the drugs certainly didn't help him solve his problems, either. Go
watch Sid and Nancy.
>First off, why insult Frances Bean for something that her father chose
>to do? Secondly, this is the second time I've read about the "beable"
>rumour, where the fuck do you guys keep hearing about this stuff?
It's on MTV all the time these days. Cobain's last words were
apparently "beable, beable, beable..." and now some group (I forget
which) already has a song out about it!
I heard he tried to rhyme it with Weeble. You know, the toy?
>First off, why insult Frances Bean for something that her father chose
You mispelled Francis.
>to do? Secondly, this is the second time I've read about the "beable"
>rumour, where the fuck do you guys keep hearing about this stuff?
Hold on. I thought Kirk Cameron commited suicide?!?!?!
M.
Weasel Boy, huh? It fits.
>Well, it's about noon on Saturday morning and people are treating this
>guy like a God now. Just like the other generation before us did with
>Jimi Hendrix.
Bullshit. They're treating him like he was a very famous and influential
person who died tragically. I haven't heard anyone attribute any godlike
attributes to Cobain--or Hendrix, for that matter.
>*YAWN*.
Sigh. How callous.
>Sure, heroin can produce some interesting music,
Heroin doesn't make music, people do.
>but I don't feel sorry for anyone on junk that shoots himself in the head
>with a 12 guage. Stupid.
No, that's not stupid, it's tragic--if it's true.
>I think we should give all the stupid people in
>the world heroin and a twelve guage so we can weed out the gene pool.
Good idea. You can have mine.
>The only thing I'm sorry about now is that the guy actually bred.
That is unfortunate, since it's likely he inherited some of his problems.
>And what kind of a person writes a suicide note trying to make a rhyme
>with the word "beable"?
What kind of person believes such nonsense?
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: Weasel Boy, huh? It fits.
: Bullshit. They're treating him like he was a very famous and influential
: person who died tragically. I haven't heard anyone attribute any godlike
: attributes to Cobain--or Hendrix, for that matter.
: Sigh. How callous.
: Heroin doesn't make music, people do.
: No, that's not stupid, it's tragic--if it's true.
: Good idea. You can have mine.
: That is unfortunate, since it's likely he inherited some of his problems.
: What kind of person believes such nonsense?
I beable the David Sill beable a very loyal fan of Nirvana. Hence I beable to
the conclusion that David Sill beable a member of the set which beable of
Nirvana Fans. I also beabled that he beable part of the set which beable of
Generation X as well as of Loosers. I therefore beable myself from David Sill.
I beable you all a good evening,
Roman
Where have you been ? It's everywhere these days. It's not just for
breakfast any more !
$ It's on MTV all the time these days. Cobain's last words were
$ apparently "beable, beable, beable..." and now some group (I forget
$ which) already has a song out about it!
I just heard it on Hot 105-X a few minutes ago: `Beable! There It Is!',
by a new outfit from Tulsa called the Kirk Cameron Experience. I don't
think it's hit the racks yet...
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$ > Sure, heroin can produce some interesting music,
$ Heroin doesn't make music, people do.
Oh puhleeze. People on heroin make music.
Ever see a drive-by knifing ? I didn't think so...
$ > but I don't feel sorry for anyone on junk that shoots himself in the head
$ > with a 12 guage. Stupid.
$ No, that's not stupid, it's tragic--if it's true.
{ FYI: `gauge' }
To my mind it's neither. He wanted to kill himself, and he did. I think we
should be happy that he was able to do what he wanted. I don't think it's
stupid to want to kill yourself, nor is it tragic that someone else wants
to kill him/herself.
$ > I think we should give all the stupid people in
$ > the world heroin and a twelve guage so we can weed out the gene pool.
$ Good idea. You can have mine.
Could you mail them to me at dire...@batf.gov ?
$ > And what kind of a person writes a suicide note trying to make a rhyme
$ > with the word "beable"?
Only the truly inspired...
m...@illuminati.io.com (Mitchell J. Gross) writes:
$ Man, are you posting to the wrong group (a.r.k) expecting sympathy for
$ Kurt Cobain.
What do you mean ? This is alt.religion.kurt-cobain ! Haven't you read
the FAQ, for crying out loud ?
> Matthew 25:36. Do YOUR part write the prisoners of the WOD! email for info.
$ Prisoners of WOD? Prisoners of the World of Darkness? :^)
Prisoners of the Witless Online-service Daemon
He also mispelled Bacon.
Teo
: Look, I didn't give a fuck about Nirvana or Cobain when they were obscure
: and still playing on WEGL in 1992, our college radio station. I didn't
: give a fuck about Nirvana/Cobain when they were playing on commercial
: radio. And now that he's dead, I still don't give a fuck about what's
: left of Nirvana or Cobain. How's that for impartiality?
: And puhleeeeeze don't mention this "our generation" crap. You can't speak
: for all twentysomethings, and neither can I, although I am a
: twentysomething too. "Our generation" is extremely diverse, fragmented, and
: partitioned like none other before us. I have no doubt you speak for a
: specific subculture of the twentysomething generation, but you cannot speak
: for all of the subcultures. I speak for my subculture, and I say *I* *DON'T*
: *CARE*.
: --
: Owen fnord Lynn +---------------+ I think you hear me knocking Bill, and I'm
: ly...@magneto.physics.auburn.edu | coming in with Lee Reiswig, David Barnes,
: lyn...@eng.auburn.edu +--------+ John Soyring and a copy of OS/2, and we're
: Finger for PGP23a Key | going to play Neko the Cat until you release Chicago.
Then stay the FUCK out of this newsgroup. Noone is forcing you to read
messages dealing with Nivana. If you don't like them, stay the fuck away
and leave us alone.
Oh my God, no wonder!
>>First off, why insult Frances Bean for something that her father chose
>
>You mispelled Francis.
No, Frank Black is alive and well. He's going to play a club here in Denton
next Saturday! I plan to be there.
>>to do? Secondly, this is the second time I've read about the "beable"
>>rumour, where the fuck do you guys keep hearing about this stuff?
>
>Hold on. I thought Kirk Cameron commited suicide?!?!?!
Actually, I just heard from one of the voices in my head that Ace of Base
was in a plane wreck. What a sad sad day.
--
djk = lamer
But that's not the point. The point is that Kurt Cobain is dead, and he's
left his family and fans bereaved. I think Courtneyt Love must be going
through hell right now; I just thank heaven Frances is too young to
understand what's going on.
For once, I just don't feel like posting anything funny or satirical. If
Stevie Nicks were to die herself tomorrow (knocking on wood), I wouldn't
like anybody making fun of it either.
Ironically, though, I suppose Corbain would actually have enjoyed reading
some of the more mordant posts on the subject over the weekend.
So I have a modest proposal; give it a rest for a while. Let Kurt's family
and friends deal with their grief in peace. Later is plenty of time for
black humor about this event.
Kibo, I'm sorry, but I just can't find anything funny to say about this. If
you want to double my Kibo number or assign me a megabozo.weenie.* group
I'll understand.
--
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(adm...@vaxa.cna.org)
(josep...@aol.com) Kibo number 512
Stevie Nicks is _still_ the queen or rock and roll.
> Look, I didn't give a fuck about Nirvana or Cobain when they were obscure
> and still playing on WEGL in 1992, our college radio station. I didn't
> give a fuck about Nirvana/Cobain when they were playing on commercial
> radio. And now that he's dead, I still don't give a fuck about what's
> left of Nirvana or Cobain. How's that for impartiality?
> [rest of crap deleted]
I speak for my subculture, and I say *I* *DON'T*
> *CARE*.
Judging by this and other posts, why don't you just rename your group
alt.music.hate.nirvana or alt.kurt.die.die.die? It'd be more accurate. . .
w.w.
>For once, I just don't feel like posting anything funny or satirical. If
>Stevie Nicks were to die herself tomorrow (knocking on wood),
what color would it be? I think I would die myself brick red with
white lines, so that I could stand nakid against my aparttment building
and make strange noises at people passing bye without being sean.
>So I have a modest proposal; give it a rest for a while. Let Kurt's family
>and friends deal with their grief in peace. Later is plenty of time for
>black humor about this event.
Does Ms. Love read this board? Kewl! I wonder if anyone else in
Pearl Jam is wired!?
"I've got to get rid of this Tale!"
-- Barbarella
Actually, dildohead, he did not mispell Frances. His kid was named after
(I imagine) Frances Farmer, whom Cobain had some sort of weird
idolization problem with.
I am pretty bummed about this, so SHUT THE HELL UP, GEEK. Quit trying to
speak as the duly appointed representative of a.r.k., 'cause you're not it.
--
Pete Dussin Kibo, like, rules, and stuff. My number is 1.
pete...@eskimo.com, pete...@patsy.seattle.wa.us
"OH MY! He's heating up." -NBA Jam
: I am pretty bummed about this, so SHUT THE HELL UP, GEEK. Quit trying to
: speak as the duly appointed representative of a.r.k., 'cause you're not it.
Are you certain that Mr. Gross has been indulging in that famous, yet infamous,
oxymoronic, good, clean fun of biting the heads of chickens? Or are you a
a closet-geek, afraid of your inner self and violent towards other geeks
which have come out of the closet?
For the record (or lack thereof), I happen to fully agree with Mr. Gross. I
am sure that Kibo would appreciate it if I took over his spot as the duly
appointed representative of a.r.k Maybe I should start grepping and replying
for him under the title "Interim Kibo".
Roman "I don't have a number"
"Come on beable now smile on your brother. Everybody get together
try to love one another, right now."
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See? You ARE in the wrong group! You want alt.flame.shut.up.geek.
Well, maybe he keeps Kosher.
M.
>I am pretty bummed about this, so SHUT THE HELL UP, GEEK. Quit trying to
> speak as the duly appointed representative of a.r.k., 'cause you're not it.
Sorry, Peteyboy. He's Allowed.
b r e t t
--
I am one mean bastard / with lighter fluid / instead of brains.
I am a lightning rod for being a lighter-fluid-brain-man, and one
mean bastard, instead of brains.
- Joy Joy Joy
And, of course you all misspelled misspelled. But who really cares?
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: I don't feel sorry for anyone on junk that shoots himself in the head
: with a 12 guage. Stupid.
What is stupid is how people think they know what was going on
when they don't. Cobain was in rehab.
He was trying to get OFF everything he had ever been on,
and he had ALREADY kicked heroin. In reporting The Note,
his widow said that one of the things she regretted most
was having tried so hard to get him off drugs. If he'd
been able to retain some numbness, he might well still
be alive. Even brain damage from drugs is better than
living in pain ALL the time. It's a shame that doesn't
happen to more of the people who really deserve it.
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I think what should have been written is:
.. Farmer, with whom Cobain had some sort of weird
idolization problem.
Now, let's stop the stupid spelling flames, and get on with
the business at hand: Eulogise or slagging Nirvana/Kurt Cobain!
No, its sspelled misspelled, of course.
T(h)eo
Uh, read the newsgroups: line, doofus.
Oh, yeah. I forgot.
: Neil Schwartzman
^^^^^^^^^^^
You misspelled 'Armstrong'.
Stevie Nicks. I get it. Just like the wild wing dove sings a song
sounds like she's singin'. Ooo baby. Ooo baby. Ooo baby.
I'm still dying to find out:
Is Stevie Nicks _still_ the Queen,
or,
rock and roll ?
And if rock and roll, then may I conclude not(bluegrass) ?
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You mispelled "Ditto-head".
>(I imagine) Frances Farmer, whom Cobain had some sort of weird
>idolization problem with.
Hey, I like chocolate too, but you don't see me naming my kids "Fanny".
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