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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! KURT COBAIN IS DEAD!!!@@!

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Brian Saunders

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Nov 6, 1994, 5:45:56 PM11/6/94
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Hello, we are all stupid and like responding to 4-month old posts, and
sending them to test groups so that we get all these neat auto-replies:

<1994Nov6.1...@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> ja0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
(I Alone)

> <1994Nov6.101640@maple> tu...@uwplatt.edu

>> <Cp6G1...@mcdata.com>, lra...@mcdata.com (Lawrence Allen)

>>> Harry Teasley III (he...@crash.cts.com)

Ram Samudrala

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Nov 6, 1994, 7:07:50 PM11/6/94
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I Alone (ja0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu) wrote:

>album of all time -- knocking Thriller riht out of #1.

I find this hard to believe. Anyone care to back this up? Is it in
the Guiness Book? Is there a net.reference for this?

--Ram

r...@elan1.carb.nist.gov The dollar will never fall as low as what
some people will do to get it.
---Alfred E Neuman

Elder Morgan

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Nov 6, 1994, 7:11:35 PM11/6/94
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Really haven't seen much middle of the roadness here. I mean, whereas I
don't think that Cobain was a god or worthless scum, I enjoyed his
music. He wasn't a pioneer, innovator, legend, or even one of the
greats. He was simply a guy in a band. I thought it was amazingly odd
that Rolling Stone would keel over and offer up a whole issue to Cobain
after giving only 6 pages to the great and amazing Frank Zappa (although
they were very well written pages.) Then again, Nirvana is what the kids
of today masturbate to, and that sells CD's, magazines, and bluejeans.
(And believe you me, it takes a lot for me to even muster something about
the kids of today at the ripe old age of 22.)


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Chris Richman

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Nov 6, 1994, 9:13:06 PM11/6/94
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r...@mbisgi.umd.edu (Ram Samudrala) writes:

>I Alone (ja0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu) wrote:

>>album of all time -- knocking Thriller riht out of #1.

>I find this hard to believe. Anyone care to back this up? Is it in
>the Guiness Book? Is there a net.reference for this?

Completely untrue. As a matter of fact I was just reading on the AP that
there is a new tie for second. Thriller sold something along the lines
of 24 million copies. Bruce Springsteins "Born in the USA" just recently
tied Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours" at 14 million. This is, of course, only
in the US, but I can't imagine that it's much different elsewhere.

chris

p.s. test groups and non-music related groups deleted - c'mon grow up.

pps speaking of growing up - didn't this fucking thread die ages ago???
I feel guilty even following up.
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Ram Samudrala

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Nov 7, 1994, 2:51:36 AM11/7/94
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Chris Richman (cric...@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:

>Completely untrue. As a matter of fact I was just reading on the AP that
>there is a new tie for second. Thriller sold something along the lines
>of 24 million copies. Bruce Springsteins "Born in the USA" just recently
>tied Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours" at 14 million. This is, of course, only
>in the US, but I can't imagine that it's much different elsewhere.

I am not sure if this is true, but I find this a bit odd too. I
thought Rumours was the third best-selling album, but no matter, I
know the order is something like this (2/3 might interchange if you
are correct):

Thriller
Saturday Night Fever
Rumours
Dark Side of the Moon

So isn't it strange that Bruce Springsteen would suddenly tie for
second spot bypassing SNF and DSoTM? (And there's a couple of million
copies difference between each consecutive ranking.)

And it is pretty different over the world, depending on the artist. I
imagine Thriller is high because it is popular worldwide, and the same
might be said for DSoTM.

--Ram

Ram Samudrala r...@elan1.carb.nist.gov
"I'm so bad baby, I don't care." ---Motorhead
"Bred from the bowels, sheep one and all, bound by the doctrine of
lies. To fucked human shit, I shout "blasphemy!" as I make my way
thru to the promised land." ---Morbid Angel

Andrew W. Montoya

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Nov 7, 1994, 5:36:11 AM11/7/94
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In article <1994Nov6.1...@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> ja0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (I Alone) writes:

[Snip]

>Okay, buttwad. Let's get one thing straight: You may not like Nirvanna,
>but it was still one of the best bands ever. PROOF: they had the bestselling
>album of all time -- knocking Thriller riht out of #1. If they sold so many
>albums, they must have spoken to very many poeple. Your opinion of the
>band and its members, pro or con, is irrelevant. Cobain has touched more
>poeple than you EVER will, and has a greater place in history than you will
>EVER have. Great or not, his effect on music was monumental, and that right
>there removes any right you may have to talk shit about him. At least
>people cared when Cobain died, if you commited suicide, it probably wouldn't
>even make the 10:00 news!
>--

You're right, Nirvana was good. Hell, I even liked it, and I generally hate
seattle sound. But, the point is, THE DUMB-ASS KILLED HIMSELF!! How the
hell can someone create music that an entire nation loves, and then BLOW HIS
GREY MATTER INTO THE SUNLIGHT?!? So what if a nation mourned? that doesn't
change the fact that HE'S WORM FODDER!! Hell, another CD from Nirvana would
have been getting ridiculous anyways. Now, if he'd destroyed every single
CD, tape, and master in existance, then he would've touched my heart, BUT
HE'S GONE, YET THE MUSIC REMAINS!! Well, I think I'll slap some Nirvana in
the CD player, and think happy thoughts 'cause COBAIN'S DEATH DIDN'T MEAN
A FUGGIN' THING!! And by the way, my suicide wouldn't make the news because
I'm not a MORONIC, PITIFUL, SORRY, SLIME-SUCKING, TWINKLE-TOED IDIOT THAT
WOULD SOLVE HIS PROBLEMS BY GETTING INTIMATE WITH THE BUSINESS END OF A
HANDGUN!!


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tu...@uwplatt.edu

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Nov 6, 1994, 11:16:40 AM11/6/94
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In article <Cp6G1...@mcdata.com>, lra...@mcdata.com (Lawrence Allen) writes:
> Harry Teasley III (he...@crash.cts.com) wrote:
> : Why are people gloating about Cobains suicide? Folks die, famous, rich,
> : whatever. Some people are sad about it, so let them be sad. I never
> : really liked Nirvana, but shit, a lot of people did. Let them do their
> : thing. I was amazingly bummed when I heard Frank Zappa had cancer, and
> : was further saddened when he finally died. It was a blow. If some folks
> : regard Cobain in the same way, then what of it? Some of the flames seem
> : to accuse Cobain of being ungrateful for his wealth and fame. It is
> : indeed hard to see what could be so worng with his life that he felt he
> : had to end it, but I think that whenever I hear of suicide.
>
> You silly little turd. How can you even mention that wimp in the
> same paragraph as the great Zappa. Zappa died of natural causes.
> Zappa was a pioneer. Zappa was king of tasteless humor in music.
>
> That weasel turd, Cobain wasn't fit to clean a toilet where Zappa
> once shit. He was a slimy little squid without enough shit in has
> cranium to be ungrateful for his wealth and fame. To let him slip
> quietly away would be a great injustice. He deserves to be laughed
> away. When the dictionary needs an illustration of worthless, the
> should have a copy of the photo of that sqid's head, post lobotomy.
>
> puke!
>
>

I concur! Cobain was worhtless---Rush Limbaugh was right on the money with his
appraisal of this scum. (No, I am not one of those people who applaud every
time Rush coughs or farts----in fact, as far as the environment goes, Rush's
opinion belongs in the shitter.)

I Alone

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Nov 6, 1994, 12:43:54 PM11/6/94
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In <1994Nov6.101640@maple> tu...@uwplatt.edu writes:

Okay, buttwad. Let's get one thing straight: You may not like Nirvanna,

Mark Hughes

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Nov 7, 1994, 8:27:27 AM11/7/94
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ja0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (I Alone) writes:
> Nirvanna ... was still one of the best bands ever. PROOF: they had the

> bestselling album of all time -- knocking Thriller riht out of #1.

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt! Wrong answer.

[ nice try with the newsgroup list - NOT! ]

p...@accubid.com (pdj) writes:

> Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd sold 250 millin copies in the
> USA alone. It is the best selling album of all time actually.

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt! Wrong answer.

[ a copy for every man, woman and child? I don't think so ]

Thriller (gag!) is still number 1 (don't know how many copies),
Rumors (Fleetwood Mac) and that irritating Bruce Springsteen
album are neck-n-neck for number 2 with 14 million each.

Steven J. Crisp

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Nov 7, 1994, 10:07:51 AM11/7/94
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Ram Samudrala (r...@mbisgi.umd.edu) wrote:
: I Alone (ja0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu) wrote:

: >album of all time -- knocking Thriller riht out of #1.

: I find this hard to believe. Anyone care to back this up? Is it in
: the Guiness Book? Is there a net.reference for this?

It just so happened that in today's (Monday) Raleigh News and Observer,
there appeared a little story about this very subject. It seems that
Bruce Springsteen's "Born in the USA" album has moved into a tie with
Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours" as the second best selling album in history.
Both are listed with 14 milliion in cumulative sales according to the
Recording Industry Association of America. Michael Jackson's "Thriller"
is still by far in first place with 24 million in sales as reported in
the story.

And Cobain is still six feet under without any true hope of his fans
following in his footsteps (or in the bloody trail of his brain for that
matter.)

Steve Crisp

Dennis McClain-Furmanski

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Nov 7, 1994, 11:26:45 AM11/7/94
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Ram Samudrala (r...@mbisgi.umd.edu) wrote:
: I Alone (ja0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu) wrote:

: >album of all time -- knocking Thriller riht out of #1.

: I find this hard to believe. Anyone care to back this up? Is it in
: the Guiness Book? Is there a net.reference for this?

It's bullshit. Springsteen's 7th album just tied Fleetwood Mac's Rumours for
#2, with 14 million sold each. Thriller still is #1 with 24 million sold.

--
dyn...@infi.net The Doctor is on.

NinjaBOB of the Fuuma Clan

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Nov 7, 1994, 11:50:56 AM11/7/94
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In article <39kvur$h...@dns1.nmsu.edu>,

Andrew W. Montoya <amon...@nmsu.edu> wrote:
>In article <1994Nov6.1...@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> ja0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (I Alone) writes:
>
>[Snip]
>
>>Okay, buttwad. Let's get one thing straight: You may not like Nirvanna,
>>but it was still one of the best bands ever. PROOF: they had the bestselling
>>album of all time -- knocking Thriller riht out of #1. If they sold so many
>>albums, they must have spoken to very many poeple. Your opinion of the
>>band and its members, pro or con, is irrelevant. Cobain has touched more
>>poeple than you EVER will, and has a greater place in history than you will
>>EVER have. Great or not, his effect on music was monumental, and that right
>>there removes any right you may have to talk shit about him. At least
>>people cared when Cobain died, if you commited suicide, it probably wouldn't
>>even make the 10:00 news!
>>--
>
>You're right, Nirvana was good. Hell, I even liked it, and I generally hate
>seattle sound. But, the point is, THE DUMB-ASS KILLED HIMSELF!! How the
>hell can someone create music that an entire nation loves, and then BLOW HIS
>GREY MATTER INTO THE SUNLIGHT?!? So what if a nation mourned? that doesn't
>change the fact that HE'S WORM FODDER!! Hell, another CD from Nirvana would
>have been getting ridiculous anyways. Now, if he'd destroyed every single
>CD, tape, and master in existance, then he would've touched my heart, BUT
>HE'S GONE, YET THE MUSIC REMAINS!! Well, I think I'll slap some Nirvana in
>the CD player, and think happy thoughts 'cause COBAIN'S DEATH DIDN'T MEAN
>A FUGGIN' THING!! And by the way, my suicide wouldn't make the news because
>I'm not a MORONIC, PITIFUL, SORRY, SLIME-SUCKING, TWINKLE-TOED IDIOT THAT
>WOULD SOLVE HIS PROBLEMS BY GETTING INTIMATE WITH THE BUSINESS END OF A
>HANDGUN!!

Kurt had too much style to use a hand gun, nope, he used a 12 gauge shot gun,
HOooo Haaaa. Now THAT didn't just let the sun shine in, no, Kurt's last mind
blowing experiance surely left chunks on the wall, floor, and perhaps ceiling.

Edward A. Cavazos

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Nov 6, 1994, 8:32:13 PM11/6/94
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ja0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (I Alone) writes:

>In <1994Nov6.101640@maple> tu...@uwplatt.edu writes:


>>I concur! Cobain was worhtless---Rush Limbaugh was right on the money with his
>>appraisal of this scum. (No, I am not one of those people who applaud every
>>time Rush coughs or farts----in fact, as far as the environment goes, Rush's
>>opinion belongs in the shitter.)

So what are you doing in the nirvana newsgrou? You must be pretty lonely.

Daniel

M.I. Wakefield

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Nov 7, 1994, 9:12:47 PM11/7/94
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In a previous article, ja0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (I Alone) says:

>Okay, buttwad. Let's get one thing straight: You may not like Nirvanna,
>but it was still one of the best bands ever. PROOF: they had the
bestselling album of all time -- knocking Thriller riht out of #1.

This is an emergency!! Follow my instructions without question!!! Grab
your shirt collar, or the hair on the back of your head with both hands.
Pull. Pull hard!! If you're lucky, your head will pop out of your
syphillitic, pus filled ass before your brain is completely dead! The fact
that you bought seven or eight copies of some lame Nirvana album, and only
six copies of Thriller doesn't mean that everybody else has made the same
tragic mistakes. The fact is that Nirvana would need to sell 14 million
copies of an album to even make the top three in sales, and they aren't
even close.

If they sold so many
>albums, they must have spoken to very many poeple.

They didn't, and, they didn't.

Your opinion of the
>band and its members, pro or con, is irrelevant. Cobain has touched more
>poeple than you EVER will, and has a greater place in history than you will
>EVER have. Great or not, his effect on music was monumental, and that right
>there removes any right you may have to talk shit about him. At least
>people cared when Cobain died, if you commited suicide, it probably wouldn't
>even make the 10:00 news!

For news on your suicide, on the other hand, they would break into prime
time programming, so that everybody could start partying at the same time.

--
Mike Wakefield | "Sodomy non sapiens"
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72672,303 (compuserve) | "Buggered if I know"
| - Terry Pratchett

Jeremy G Davis

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Nov 7, 1994, 5:40:16 PM11/7/94
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In article <39lltg$u...@nntp1.u.washington.edu> guy...@u.washington.edu (NinjaBOB of the Fuuma Clan) writes:
>In article <39kvur$h...@dns1.nmsu.edu>,
>Andrew W. Montoya <amon...@nmsu.edu> wrote:
>>In article <1994Nov6.1...@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> ja0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (I Alone) writes:
>>
>>[Snip]
>>
>>>Okay, buttwad. Let's get one thing straight: You may not like Nirvanna,
>>>but it was still one of the best bands ever. PROOF: they had the bestselli
>>
>>You're right, Nirvana was good. Hell, I even liked it, and I generally hate
>>seattle sound. But, the point is, THE DUMB-ASS KILLED HIMSELF!! How the
>>hell can someone create music that an entire nation loves, and then BLOW HIS
>>GREY MATTER INTO THE SUNLIGHT?!? So what if a nation mourned? that doesn't
>>change the fact that HE'S WORM FODDER!! Hell, another CD from Nirvana would
>>have been getting ridiculous anyways. Now, if he'd destroyed every single
>>CD, tape, and master in existance, then he would've touched my heart, BUT
>>HE'S GONE, YET THE MUSIC REMAINS!! Well, I think I'll slap some Nirvana in
>>the CD player, and think happy thoughts 'cause COBAIN'S DEATH DIDN'T MEAN
>>A FUGGIN' THING!! And by the way, my suicide wouldn't make the news because
>>I'm not a MORONIC, PITIFUL, SORRY, SLIME-SUCKING, TWINKLE-TOED IDIOT THAT
>>WOULD SOLVE HIS PROBLEMS BY GETTING INTIMATE WITH THE BUSINESS END OF A
>>HANDGUN!!
>
>Kurt had too much style to use a hand gun, nope, he used a 12 gauge shot gun,
>HOooo Haaaa. Now THAT didn't just let the sun shine in, no, Kurt's last mind
>blowing experiance surely left chunks on the wall, floor, and perhaps

Just for all of you that cared, Curt had a big Heroin problem, he (one
of the two I can't remem) had a $300/day habit or a $1200/day habbit I
can't remember which. And that particular evening, he had purchesed 3X
that. He was a dead man before he used a shotgun.


--
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jerd...@iastate.edu .. . . . . .
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I got something beter than Love.

Joachim Lous

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Nov 8, 1994, 9:57:28 AM11/8/94
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Could we get this shit OFF alt.music.progressive please!.

Sam Knight

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Nov 7, 1994, 10:27:48 AM11/7/94
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Andrew W. Montoya (amon...@nmsu.edu) wrote:

: [Snip]

no-one deserves condemnation more than those who condemn others.

Sam

(I thought this thread had gone the way of Curt..)
(More ridiculous follow-ups removed.)

DANNY KIM

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Nov 7, 1994, 2:09:17 PM11/7/94
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Kurt Cobain virtually wiped out the term Generation X...and took an
entire pop generation down with him into the Hole(His grave). What does
the number of albums Nirvana sold have to do with Cobain's suicide? Who
cares how big Nirvana was? That's probably why Kurt did himself in in
the first place. That and Courtney Love sleeping around with just about
everyone with the exception of me and you.

Danny Kim
I Alone
(ja0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu)

Russell King

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Nov 7, 1994, 1:46:43 PM11/7/94
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> In <1994Nov6.101640@maple> tu...@uwplatt.edu writes:
>
> Okay, buttwad. Let's get one thing straight: You may not like Nirvanna,
> but it was still one of the best bands ever. PROOF: they had the bestselling
> album of all time -- knocking Thriller riht out of #1. If they sold so many

Sorry man. That's no proof. What the morons buy is no indication
of music being good or not. Nor any art in fact. Tell me, do _you_ consider
Thriller to be the best alum ever? (OK maybe you do, but that's your
opinion). Different people like different music, & what is superb for
one is shite for another. Surely you get teeny bands making no. 1
in the US... Do you think they are any good? No way.

Nirvana got to the top by an attractive front man, decent voice,
angst lyrics and pop/grunge music.

> band and its members, pro or con, is irrelevant. Cobain has touched more
> poeple than you EVER will, and has a greater place in history than you will
> EVER have. Great or not, his effect on music was monumental, and that right

I'm afraid not. If it wasn't Nirvana it would have been someone else.
The people who really make a difference are the ones who are cutting edge.
Generally small bands who do new stuff. Nirvana are pretty middle of
the road IMHO. If someone who has _real_ status in his particular field
does something different, people sit up and take notice. Mr Cobain did
nothing new, & had v. little effect.

> people cared when Cobain died, if you commited suicide, it probably wouldn't
> even make the 10:00 news!

Well, I like their music a lot and I was a mite upset when I heard. But
only because it meant no more albums. Oh yeah, I felt a little sorry for
Francis-Bean & his widow (name escapes me, she's in Hole).

Russ.


--
Drinking the blood of Jesus,
Drinking it straight from his veins.
- Ministry
////////////////// rus...@rsking.demon.co.uk \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

Mark

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Nov 7, 1994, 4:55:00 PM11/7/94
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tu...@uwplatt.edu writes:


My god, you people are fucked. If you don't like the guy, who gives a
shit, why waste energy just to piss off people who enjoyed his music?
And using the fat scum king 4th Reich nazi puke bastard Rush Limbaugh
as a reference for your thought is *the* single most pathetic scrap of
bullshit I've seen uttered on the net. Have a fucked up life.

-Mark

Jacob C Kesinger

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>ja0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (I Alone) writes:

>>In <1994Nov6.101640@maple> tu...@uwplatt.edu writes:

So what are you doing in the kibology newsgroup? You're rusty, gritty pony.

--Jake

>Daniel

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Robert Mark Vaugh

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Nov 7, 1994, 10:20:46 PM11/7/94
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Greetings everyone1

Just thought I'd comment on the little waste of time that people have been
posting here venting their share of explicatives etc. over someone and a group
that I don't feel should be on alt.music.prog........ I saw a post where
someone was discussing Zappa and kurtie and I had a few things come to mind:
I just picked up a copy of some guitar mag that was a Zappa tribute (they also
had a tribute to Stevie Ray Vaughn in a separate mag but the name slips me
sorry!) It essentially discussed how Frank worked his tail off and how he
would not hire or work with people cashed out on drugs or whatever....The man
worked (rough quote) "sometimes 20 hours a day--until I couldn't stand up any
more" Let's look at that--not only was Frank a clean guy but he was always
having his energy sucked out of him from recording, writing, managing his
company, legal tirades-jeeez! the gut said he only watched TV news for
entertainment! He didn't see the need to go out and be all glitzy and I feel
that to compare the two together is an atrocity. Frank made God knows how many
albums, stood up for what he believed in and took no plooking from anyone. He
deserved a heck of a lot more than whatever rolling ston(er) attributed to
him--incidentally I quit reading that cheap excuse for bowel-fodder-bunghole
cleaner as soon as they voted barry mannilow as performer of the year(I don't
think that Frank knew there was a contest going on anyway!) I just can't
listen to nirvana (which means complete eternal bliss) and then compare it to
"Dancin' Fool", "St. Alfonso's Pancake Breakfast", or the Yellow Shark and feel
that they should be on the same spectrum of greatness--that is WRONG and so
while our regulars are here tapping into the bleeding sores of the nirvana
crew as it slowly dies looking for some network that will listen to it whine,
and getting EXACTLY the response that they were looking for "But wad, Fucked,
Dick, Pud,Butt monkey, jerk, pooter-head, Anal Conquistidors, But pirate, etc."
or whatever, Please remember that this is for progressive music--I'd much
rather hear about criticisms of current groups or the masters than some people
who just played to sad poetry--minimalistic, fine but for GOD's sake they
should have taken it somewhere!!!!! Just listen to the first Yes album then
go listen to Close to the edge---or Freak Out! by Frank then go listen to
Jazz from Hell with the Synclavier--(I don't think kurtie could have plugged
this in by himself, let alone use it) PROGRESSIVE!!!!! Key word here
PROGRESSIVE!!!!!! for those of you looking to vent or look to swear I,
along with I am sure many other Progs would like to politely ask you to let
the dead horse lie and leave it at that so we don't have to remove a ton
of jibberish BS that has absolutely nothing to do with a.m.p!
As far as Rush goes I thinks you have to watch or listen to the Big Man before
you lay into him. To tie in another Rush quote that a Friend told me about,
He said that the whole generation X thing is being brought on by a bunch of
middle-aged media bread-boffers!(not a direct quote*) I read the USA today a
few weeks ago and saw how Generation X was now becoming the Beat generation
again--HAHA! They seem to think that since 30 or more college students
traveling by bus around the US for an English class and getting credit for it
constitutes (A) these 30 or more are the generation X and (B) we are lost and
hopeless, destined to hit a downward spiral at any moment ending in the
complete destruction of human civilization AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!--Sounds a little
like a literary prize than the best in news coverage in America at the moment
eh? BTW, When I was reading this garbage in USA Today, I recalled(1)
how we read On the Road in High School, it was cool and full of perspectives
that opened a whole new realm of thinking for me and (2) King Crimson's
Beat(progressive!!!) and all the cool songs from their 80's stuff(Sheltering
Sky by Bowles and stuff from Casssidy, too all from researching stuff about
progressive bands !) And to put a more personal touch here, My Dad had no clue
what he was going to do after high school and even during college, he just sort
of drifted along and he always said to be true to what you are and believe in
yourself-- things paid off for him and they still are--the guy's 68 and a
conservative live and let live-er--is he in Generation X too? With that I hope
that we can now get back to MUSIC.

kurtie's gone.......time to move on (Flame away if you must but myself I do
trust, I'd love to stay but VROOM! is just two days away!!!

--"You say you can't live with what you've been through
--well ladies you can be an asshole too,
--you may think you ain't got one on the bottom of you.....
--but don't fool yourself, girl, it's winkin' at you
--don't fool yourself, girl, it's blinkin' at you
--don't fool yourself, girl, it's smilin' at you....that's why....
--I'm gonna Rammit rammit rammit rammit up your poop shute...."Frank Zappa
Sheik Yerbouti

Oliver Brown

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might i suggest that maybe MUSIC and STARDOM kept him alive LONGER.
i can see that without MUSIC and/or a following he may have killed
himself many years earlier.

Sergei Prozorov

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That's so very fucking funny,you moron! Next time you write your shitty
poems,don't post them,just shove them up your ass, you cocksucker!
On Mon, 7 Nov 1994, Geoff Miller wrote:

>
>
>
> "There was a sad fellow Cobain
> Who thought that the world was insane.
> So he took out his shotgun,
> Though he sang he had not one,
> And painted the wall with his brain."
>
>
>
>
> Geoff
>
> --
> -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
> Geoff Miller + + + + + + + + Mountain View
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James William Stepanek

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On 07-Nov-94 in Re: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! KURT..

user Sergei Proz...@u.washin writes:
>That's so very fucking funny,you moron! Next time you write your shitty
>poems,don't post them,just shove them up your ass, you cocksucker!

Don't like limericks then eh?

How about a Haiku?

Kurt Cobain Singer,
A Picture of Teenage angst
Gray Splatter on wall

--------------------------------esp------------------------------------------
James Stepanek NRA member Graduate Student
Materials Science and Engineering Carnegie Mellon University
God created mankind, Samuel Colt made them equal.
Thank God I'm an atheist.
These opinions are mine alone, others can find their own.
-------------------------Don't tread on me-----------------------------------

Lamont Granquist

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amon...@nmsu.edu (Andrew W. Montoya) writes:
>You're right, Nirvana was good. Hell, I even liked it, and I generally hate
>seattle sound. But, the point is, THE DUMB-ASS KILLED HIMSELF!!
^^^^^^^^
If you've got any "friends" who have ever been depressed or suicidal, i
really think you should tell them that they're just "stoopid." I'd like
to be there to see the reaction and offer encouragement in whatever violent
acts they'd like to commit in your general direction...

--
Lamont Granquist (lam...@u.washington.edu)
Q: How many economists does it take to change a light bulb?
N: None! If it needed fixing, the market would take care of it!

Geoff Miller

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Lamont Granquist

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jerd...@iastate.edu (Jeremy G Davis) writes:
>Just for all of you that cared, Curt had a big Heroin problem, he (one
>of the two I can't remem) had a $300/day habit or a $1200/day habbit I
>can't remember which. And that particular evening, he had purchesed 3X
>that. He was a dead man before he used a shotgun.

Wrong. Heroin is not substantially toxic, and addicts can function
normally, provided that they have a decent support system. After
_Nevermind_ i seriously doubt that his heroin addiction would have
that much of a chance of killing him. He might, of course, have
decided to try to kill himself with heroin -- but he tried the valium
and alcohol route previously and it didn't work... And in this case
the drugs aren't substantially different than the shotgun.

And think for a moment -- even presuming your rumormongering was
correct -- maybe that was what he was planning on using for the next
three days before he decided to kill himself?

Steven J. Crisp

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Nov 7, 1994, 11:03:24 PM11/7/94
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Sergei Prozorov (sp...@u.washington.edu) wrote:
: That's so very fucking funny,you moron! Next time you write your shitty

: poems,don't post them,just shove them up your ass, you cocksucker!

Yo, you pile of Red spoonge,

Did Cobain import you as his sex-toy, or did you volunteer to be repeated
corn-holed until some buffalo dick impaled your brain causing
irreparable damage to your humor centers? Inquiring minds want to know.

BTW, comrade, how does one get laid in Moscow in the winter? I mean, is
it difficult to dis-impact the 37 pounds of snow that gets lodged up a
Russian bitch's snake receptor? Or are ex-Soviet tools made out of the
same crappy cast iron that every thing else in your country is made of
so that they crack off under the least little pressure? Of course, this
presumes that there is any pressure applied to them in the first place.
I've always heard that the average Russian prick is about two inches
long, whereas the average Russian snatch has a volume approaching that of
a small television set. In fact, it's no wonder Russian women are so big -
one needs a large life-support system for caves that size.

Steve Crisp

Powdered Toast Man

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Nov 7, 1994, 11:42:49 PM11/7/94
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In article <39k02t$1...@blkbox.blkbox.com>,

Edward A. Cavazos <ecav...@blkbox.COM> wrote:
>ja0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (I Alone) writes:
>
>>In <1994Nov6.101640@maple> tu...@uwplatt.edu writes:
>
>
>>>I concur! Cobain was worhtless---Rush Limbaugh was right on the money with his
>>>appraisal of this scum. (No, I am not one of those people who applaud every
>>>time Rush coughs or farts----in fact, as far as the environment goes, Rush's
>>>opinion belongs in the shitter.)
>
>So what are you doing in the nirvana newsgrou? You must be pretty lonely.

Same thing he's doing in the alt.religion.kibology: TROLLING!!!

Kurt Cobain is God's gift to music and he knows it. And Rush's opinion
belongs in a bidet, rather than a shitter.

I'm getting rather good at spotting trolls. I'm also good at spotting test
groups in the newsgroups: lines.

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Rob Zwissler

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Jeremy G Davis (jerd...@iastate.edu) wrote:

: Just for all of you that cared, Curt had a big Heroin problem, he (one


: of the two I can't remem) had a $300/day habit or a $1200/day habbit I
: can't remember which. And that particular evening, he had purchesed 3X
: that. He was a dead man before he used a shotgun.

How did he shoot himself if he was already dead?

ro...@ripco.com

Bryan Shelly

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: Okay, buttwad. Let's get one thing straight: You may not like Nirvanna,


: but it was still one of the best bands ever. PROOF: they had the bestselling
: album of all time -- knocking Thriller riht out of #1. If they sold so many
: albums, they must have spoken to very many poeple. Your opinion of the
: band and its members, pro or con, is irrelevant. Cobain has touched more
: poeple than you EVER will, and has a greater place in history than you will
: EVER have. Great or not, his effect on music was monumental, and that right
: there removes any right you may have to talk shit about him. At least
: people cared when Cobain died, if you commited suicide, it probably wouldn't
: even make the 10:00 news!
: --

Uhh, I, too, am somewhat of a Nirvanna fan, but I don't know
where you got that ditty about Nevermind being the "bestselling album of
all time." They "only" sold 10 million copies worldwide, compared to
"Born in the USA"'s over 60 million. Sorry.
BS

ber...@syntegra.bt.co.uk

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Nov 8, 1994, 12:43:22 PM11/8/94
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Argue between yourselves - but there are other people out there with the
potential to be new Kurt Cobains. I wrote this poem on the day I heard of
Kurt's death, just after my girlfriend and I had made love while 'Nevermind'
played on the stereo. I dedicate this poem to Kurt.

I lay on her bed
And cuddled her near.
She was beautiful
And my excitedness
Was matched only by
My disbelief at
How this situation could appear.

"Listen", she said,
"Can you hear my heart?".
All I could hear
As I rested my head
On her scented breast
Was my genitals shouting
"Fuck her brains out, you fuckin' fart !"

OK kids, calm down, I know it's brilliant. I'll be your new Kurt Cobain.

Cracker

Samuel H Theiner

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In article <39m81d$9...@nic.scruz.net>,

Too bad he didn't.

-Sam
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R.O.S.B.F.

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In <Pine.A32.3.91a.94110...@homer04.u.washington.edu> Mark writes:

> Um, please stop on a.m.p. NOW. Please be so kind, when you reply, to
> erase a.m.p from your "reply to:" list.
> Thanks.
>
> poet
>

Please remove alt.suicide.holiday from the followup list as well.

We're depressed enough! 8)

R.

Mark Robison

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Nov 8, 1994, 1:19:24 AM11/8/94
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Might I suggest that you take this thread off a.m.prog. We're tired of
reading about him, much less even thinking about him.
Thanks

poet

Justin Sullivan

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tu...@uwplatt.edu writes:

>I concur! Cobain was worhtless---Rush Limbaugh was right on the money with his
>appraisal of this scum. (No, I am not one of those people who applaud every
>time Rush coughs or farts----in fact, as far as the environment goes, Rush's
>opinion belongs in the shitter.)

Rush is a sensible fellow.. Just because you might not like "Spotted
Owl Under Glass" doesn't mean he doesn't care about the environment.. :)

The local pinko publication (student newspaper) always runs these tripe
little cartoon strips that relate Rush and Baby Boop from Barney's
show.. I really should say something..

Lamont Granquist

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Nov 8, 1994, 3:33:49 AM11/8/94
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2f63be...@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>sorry!) It essentially discussed how Frank worked his tail off and how he
>would not hire or work with people cashed out on drugs or whatever....The man
>worked (rough quote) "sometimes 20 hours a day--until I couldn't stand up any
>more" Let's look at that--not only was Frank a clean guy but he was always
>having his energy sucked out of him from recording, writing, managing his
>company, legal tirades-jeeez! the gut said he only watched TV news for
>entertainment! He didn't see the need to go out and be all glitzy and I feel
>that to compare the two together is an atrocity.

Look i don't want to compare Zappa to Kurt. I don't think that Kurt
produced anything that compares with Zappa. I had kind of hoped that he
might one day amount to something -- at least he appeared to be searching for
a clue unlike a lot of top 40 acts that don't appear to have one and didn't
appear to care about it...

Have i come off sufficiently cynical of Kurt's godlike musical talent to
pass the alt.music.progressive political correctness exam?

But while not worshipping him as a god, i don't feel like stomping on him
either. Kurt wasn't "clean" -- in fact he was addicted. This, doesn't,
however, make him scum. Anyone who thinks so needs to get a little
respect for the difficultly in dealing with a addiction and the psychological
factors that are involved with it. Take a few upper division psych courses,
talk to a psychologist, read a fucking book for a change -- or better yet
go out and find out about it firsthand...

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st...@elroy.uh.edu

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In article <39p4ut$i...@shocker.mid.net>, wwr...@galaxy.galstar.com (William Wright) writes...
>I Alone (ja0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu) wrote:

>: In <1994Nov6.101640@maple> tu...@uwplatt.edu writes:
>
>: >In article <Cp6G1...@mcdata.com>, lra...@mcdata.com (Lawrence Allen) writes:
>: >> Harry Teasley III (he...@crash.cts.com) wrote:
>
>: Okay, buttwad. Let's get one thing straight: You may not like Nirvanna,
>: but it was still one of the best bands ever. PROOF: they had the bestselling
>: album of all time -- knocking Thriller riht out of #1. If they sold so many
>: albums, they must have spoken to very many poeple. Your opinion of the
>: band and its members, pro or con, is irrelevant. Cobain has touched more
>: poeple than you EVER will, and has a greater place in history than you will
>
>yeah the only reason they sold any albums are because a bunch of losers
>started liking the band and all the influenable people followed. in truth
>its not THEM that made themselves famous but the people who started out
>liking them. and about 'touching' people... shit RAPE ME or WET MOIST
>VAGINA don't touch me... they make me want to throw up. good riddence of
>kurt.

Uh, oh kids. Looks like someone mistook this newsgroup for
alt.rec.verbal.masturbation or soc.frustrations.sex.depravation.

Report Card for tu...@uwplatt.edu:

Conduct: does not play well with other children

Spelling: D- (influenable?)

Recommend student return to alt.music.winger newsgroup.

Since when did a band MAKE themselves famous without people liking them?
It seems we are a little unclear on cause and effect relationships. Just
a thought.

--Jeff o' Houston

"If sweatiness makes you hrony, well, darlin' I think you're in luck,
'cause all this clever banter gives me the urge to F**K."

Christopher Aedo

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Nov 9, 1994, 1:27:05 AM11/9/94
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In article <39pd86$b...@mark.ucdavis.edu>,
Jeffrey Margrave <ez04...@rocky.ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>I Alone (ja0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu) wrote:
>
>wrong, and wrong. they knocked MJ's _dangerous_ out of the number one
>spot in billboard. and the bestselling album of alltime is the beatles
>_sgt. pepper's lonely hearts club band_ once again; thriller is around
>number 5 or 6 now, as fleetwood mac's _rumours_ is number two, the
>_saturday night fever_ soundtrack is number three, and there are two or
>three others i can't remember now. secondly, record sales are proof that
>records were sold and nothing else.
>
Ok, fine. Set me straight. Did I grow up in the completely wrong
generation, or wasn't "Pink Floyd"s album Dark Side of the Moon the
most selling album of all time?

I know that if you break it into groups, like "Most albums sold by a
grunge band who's leader wore flannel and killed himself with a shotgun",
silly and talentless groups like Nirvana seem to be high up there, but
what fucking sources would you like to quote? I don't have anything to
quite about Pink Floyd, but they have been around for a HELL of a long time,
and I have ALWAYS heard the DSotM was the best selling album of all time.

Some music master, please set me straight. I *know* Kurt Coldbrain didn't
sell the most, but who did?

-Christopher


A OGRE

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Nov 8, 1994, 6:40:32 AM11/8/94
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Mark Robison (po...@u.washington.edu) wrote:
>Might I suggest that you take this thread off a.m.prog. We're tired of
>reading about him, much less even thinking about him.
>Thanks

I mean this to be helpful: When you want something off your group,
TAKE YOUR GROUP OUT OF THE FOLLOWUP-TOs or even *gasp* the Newsgroups!

Like I've done, see?

Sorry about the yelling.

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Mark Robison

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Um, please stop on a.m.p. NOW. Please be so kind, when you reply, to
erase a.m.p from your "reply to:" list.
Thanks.

poet

Samuel H Theiner

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In article <Pine.A32.3.91a.94110...@homer04.u.washington.edu>,

Sergei Prozorov <sp...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>That's so very fucking funny,you moron! Next time you write your shitty
>poems,don't post them,just shove them up your ass, you cocksucker!

Actually, it was quite humorous. Keep up the good work, Geoff!

-Sam

>On Mon, 7 Nov 1994, Geoff Miller wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> "There was a sad fellow Cobain
>> Who thought that the world was insane.
>> So he took out his shotgun,
>> Though he sang he had not one,
>> And painted the wall with his brain."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>> --
>> -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
>> Geoff Miller + + + + + + + + Mountain View
>> geo...@netcom.com + DoD #0996 + California
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Albert Walker III

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WHAT?!?!?! Kurt Cobain is DEAD??? You're kidding me!!! What
about Courtney? What about little Frances Bean?!?!? Oh my God, how
horrible!!

____________________________________________________________________________
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Lost in Guava

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Ram Samudrala (r...@mbisgi.umd.edu) wrote:
: I Alone (ja0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu) wrote:

: >album of all time -- knocking Thriller riht out of #1.

: I find this hard to believe. Anyone care to back this up? Is it in
: the Guiness Book? Is there a net.reference for this?

: --Ram

I find it equally difficult to believe that Thriller was ever `#1' ,
but considering the drivel that dumps out of the speakers every time
I flip over to commercial radio, I guess I shouldn't.


Samuel H Theiner

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Nov 9, 1994, 10:18:50 AM11/9/94
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In article <justin.7...@engr.uky.edu>,
Justin Sullivan <jus...@cfd.me.engr.uky.edu> wrote:

>tu...@uwplatt.edu writes:
>
>
> Rush is a sensible fellow.. Just because you might not like "Spotted
>Owl Under Glass" doesn't mean he doesn't care about the environment.. :)

I myself prefer "Whining Loggers under Glass."


>
> The local pinko publication (student newspaper) always runs these tripe
>little cartoon strips that relate Rush and Baby Boop from Barney's
>show.. I really should say something..
>

Wait! How do they relate? Baby Boop has far more brains than Rush! There
can't be any connection.

-Sam


Jerry Barlow

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Nov 9, 1994, 12:54:31 PM11/9/94
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Is it Cobain, or his suicide generating all this attention? Lots of
people think suicide to be cowardly, but it's kind of a paradox ---
how would a coward have the nerve to blow his brains out? At the same
time, leaving an infant and wife behind isn't very cool. Toss in heroin
and bisexuality, and a lot of folks want to dance on his grave singing
"Hahahahahahaha!!! Kurt is Dead!!!" If they didn't like his music it
even gets worse; they might compare him to a real toe tapper, like Frank
Zappa, who had the decency to die naturally. I think Kurt said it best:
"What else should I be
All apologies"

Darryl W. Oriold

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Previously:

"
: >album of all time -- knocking Thriller riht out of #1.
"

What #1? There are a dozen #1's and different ways to get there.

Isn't Pink Floyd's Darks Side of the Moon "#1" for longest on Billboard's
top (###) list?

Isn't ABBA a "#1" for some world record selling thing...

Isn't Stairway to Heaven "#1" on just about every listener poll that these
damn radio stations inceccsntly pull out evrey year around this time

Isn't My Sharona "#1" for fastest selling, or quickest rising single

... need I go on...

BTW I have absolutly no proof of any of these staements, just a collection
of "I heard that..."

oh and one more... Isn't Kurt Ka-Bang the "#1" stupidest way to get out
of a recording deal? :)


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David Chris Regan

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Nov 9, 1994, 2:05:17 PM11/9/94
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Ahhhh...I feel so much better now. And all this time I thought *I* was the
only one who didn't buy that moronic album. What on earth *did* people
see in him? Ah well, I could say the same for most no-talent pop/rap artists.


-Dave
fo...@cats.ucsc.edu

"no man, I've got it wired...all we need to do is yell about raping women and
killing police and we'll hit the big time for sure" -MC Hammerites everywhere

Matthew Free Allred

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Nov 8, 1994, 6:50:52 PM11/8/94
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> That's so very fucking funny,you moron! Next time you write your shitty
> poems,don't post them,just shove them up your ass, you cocksucker!

> On Mon, 7 Nov 1994, Geoff Miller wrote:
>

Easy there Stalin, don't condem the guy just because he talent for prose
isn't the greatest. I do however think that you should consider a more
tactful means of venting your anger, like have you ever written a Haiku?
Altough I do think that calling someone a cocksucker is a lot more healthy
that blowing you head off.


> >
> >
> >
> > "There was a sad fellow Cobain
> > Who thought that the world was insane.
> > So he took out his shotgun,
> > Though he sang he had not one,
> > And painted the wall with his brain."

-Matt

lap...@netcom.com

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Nov 9, 1994, 4:30:14 PM11/9/94
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Jesus Christ!!! Doesn't any of these assholes have the balls to at least
make sure that they post to an appropriate newsgroup??? They all should
certainly be flayed alive under some hot spamcoals. Get a grip,
dickweed.......Spam will have its revenge.

John Foldan

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--
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jfo...@netcom.com that require new clothes.
- H. D. Thoreau

William Wright

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Jeffrey Margrave

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I Alone (ja0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu) wrote:

: Okay, buttwad. Let's get one thing straight: You may not like Nirvanna,
: but it was still one of the best bands ever. PROOF: they had the bestselling
: album of all time -- knocking Thriller riht out of #1.

wrong, and wrong. they knocked MJ's _dangerous_ out of the number one


spot in billboard. and the bestselling album of alltime is the beatles
_sgt. pepper's lonely hearts club band_ once again; thriller is around
number 5 or 6 now, as fleetwood mac's _rumours_ is number two, the
_saturday night fever_ soundtrack is number three, and there are two or
three others i can't remember now. secondly, record sales are proof that
records were sold and nothing else.

and there is nothing more pathetic than people so desparate for attention
that they still, 7 months later, have nothing better to do with their
lives than laugh about kurt cobain's death. now NIXON: there's someone
whose death should be celebrated endlessly!!!!!!

--lbh

Martin H. Booda

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Nov 9, 1994, 9:49:18 AM11/9/94
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In article <39om8j$r...@nunki.usc.edu>, albe...@nunki.usc.edu (Albert Walker III) writes:
|> In article <39m81d$9...@nic.scruz.net> obr...@scruznet.com (Oliver Brown) writes:
|> >might i suggest that maybe MUSIC and STARDOM kept him alive LONGER.
|> >i can see that without MUSIC and/or a following he may have killed
|> >himself many years earlier.
|>
|> WHAT?!?!?! Kurt Cobain is DEAD??? You're kidding me!!! What
|> about Courtney? What about little Frances Bean?!?!? Oh my God, how
|> horrible!!
|>
Oh, thanks loads for the spoiler! Now I guess I won't need to see
"Generations".
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Gary Heston

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Oh, why not; I haven't flamed anybody in a while.

In article <39lh1k$n...@styx.uwa.edu.au> skn...@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Sam Knight) writes:
>Andrew W. Montoya (amon...@nmsu.edu) wrote:

>: >Okay, buttwad. Let's get one thing straight: You may not like Nirvanna,
>: >but it was still one of the best bands ever.

Only if you are very liberal with the definitions of "best" and "band".
They should have won an award for "Most Mumbled 'Lyrics' Sold".

>: > PROOF: they had the bestselling


>: >album of all time -- knocking Thriller riht out of #1.

Not. Nowhere near it.

>: > If they sold so many


>: >albums, they must have spoken to very many poeple.

No, just a few with egos nearly as big as his.

>: > Your opinion of the


>: >band and its members, pro or con, is irrelevant.

As is yours.

>: > Cobain has touched more


>: >poeple than you EVER will, and has a greater place in history than you will

>: >EVER have.

Oh, you can see the future, too? How nice. What's the winning lottery
numbers in Florida and Georgia? I'd like to get rich, but I think I can
handle it better than Kurt.

>: > Great or not, his effect on music was monumental, and that right


>: >there removes any right you may have to talk shit about him.

Even were your erronious presumption were true, everyone still has
their right to their opinion, and the right to voice it, even when
it contradicts yours. Check back in five years and see if Cobain is
talked about in the same voice with Hendrix or Joplin.

>: > At least


>: >people cared when Cobain died, if you commited suicide, it probably wouldn't
>: >even make the 10:00 news!

Primarily because he's not such a loser that he can't handle making
a few million a year after working his ass off for years to do it.

YAASA, STFU.

>: You're right, Nirvana was good. Hell, I even liked it, and I generally hate
>: seattle sound.

Some of their stuff, once Cobain learned to pronounce words, got marginally
above the mediocre level. They were, like most acts, mostly marketing.

>: But, the point is, THE DUMB-ASS KILLED HIMSELF!! How the
>: hell can someone create music that an entire nation loves, and then BLOW HIS
>: GREY MATTER INTO THE SUNLIGHT?!? So what if a nation mourned? that doesn't
>: change the fact that HE'S WORM FODDER!! Hell, another CD from Nirvana would
>: have been getting ridiculous anyways. Now, if he'd destroyed every single
>: CD, tape, and master in existance, then he would've touched my heart, BUT
>: HE'S GONE, YET THE MUSIC REMAINS!! Well, I think I'll slap some Nirvana in
>: the CD player, and think happy thoughts 'cause COBAIN'S DEATH DIDN'T MEAN
>: A FUGGIN' THING!!

It means there at least won't be any new stuff, and fortunantly the others
broke up, so there shouldn't be more of the post-planting releases.

I hope.

(Incidentally, the same thing happened with Buddy Holly; his material
was getting released for about 20 years after he died. They had a lot
in the studio vaults, and milked it for all it was worth.)

>: And by the way, my suicide wouldn't make the news because
>: I'm not a MORONIC, PITIFUL, SORRY, SLIME-SUCKING, TWINKLE-TOED IDIOT THAT
>: WOULD SOLVE HIS PROBLEMS BY GETTING INTIMATE WITH THE BUSINESS END OF A
>: HANDGUN!!

Excuse me, but he used a 12-gauge shotgun, not a handgun.

Why it is that suicidal idiots go out if their way to make
messes is beyond me; cyanide is cheap, or chlorine gas can
be easily generated from materials found in any grocery store.

>no-one deserves condemnation more than those who condemn others.

PotKettleBlack*PLONK*

>(I thought this thread had gone the way of Curt..)

Old threads never die; they just frazzle out into a frayed knot.

>(More ridiculous follow-ups removed.)

However, you inflicted it once again on talk.bizarre, WHICH WAS A MISTAKE!

--
Gary Heston SCI Systems, Inc. ga...@sci.com site admin
The Chairman of the Board and the CFO speak for SCI. I'm neither.
If I had Bills' Billions.........
...I'd buy a Delta Clipper!

Kevin J. O'Conner

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In some article, somebody wrote:

>>: Okay, buttwad. Let's get one thing straight: You may not like Nirvanna,

>>: but it was still one of the best bands ever. PROOF: they had the bestselling
>>: album of all time -- knocking Thriller riht out of #1. If they sold so many
>>: albums, they must have spoken to very many poeple. Your opinion of the
>>: band and its members, pro or con, is irrelevant. Cobain has touched more


>>: poeple than you EVER will, and has a greater place in history than you will

I thought Nirvana were great, but get your facts straight. Michael Jackson's
Thriller is the best-selling album of all time, with 40 million plus in sales to
date. Nirvana aren't even close.

Besides, it was Dangerous that Nirvana's Nevermind album knocked out of the #1
spot on the chart...

Kevin J. O'Conner d.b.a. Tinty Music P.O. Box 85363 Seattle, WA 98145-1363
vox: (206) 632-9369 fax/modem: (206) 545-2868
e-mail: tntm...@halcyon.com tintm...@pan.com
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"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

Mark

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wwr...@galaxy.galstar.com (William Wright) writes:

Yeah, and maybe if you looked beyond the title of a song you'd find
that the world of music is just full of surprises! Imagine that. Pull your
head out of your ass you censorship-promoting bastard.

-Mark

Sherm

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Nov 9, 1994, 10:22:03 PM11/9/94
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: yeah the only reason they sold any albums are because a bunch of losers

: started liking the band and all the influenable people followed. in truth
: its not THEM that made themselves famous but the people who started out
: liking them. and about 'touching' people... shit RAPE ME or WET MOIST
: VAGINA don't touch me... they make me want to throw up. good riddence of
: kurt.

And I'm proud to say that I am one of those losers amoung many others
hear.

Peace
Love
Empathy
--Sherm


Jeff Smith

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Nov 9, 1994, 1:15:12 PM11/9/94
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In article <39om8j$r...@nunki.usc.edu>, albe...@nunki.usc.edu (Albert Walker III) writes:
> In article <39m81d$9...@nic.scruz.net> obr...@scruznet.com (Oliver Brown) writes:
> >might i suggest that maybe MUSIC and STARDOM kept him alive LONGER.
> >i can see that without MUSIC and/or a following he may have killed
> >himself many years earlier.
>
> WHAT?!?!?! Kurt Cobain is DEAD??? You're kidding me!!! What
> about Courtney? What about little Frances Bean?!?!? Oh my God, how
> horrible!!
>

My God!!! What a LOSS! He was a fantastic actor! I *LOVED* "Growing Pains"!
Kurt Cameron was my FAVORITE of all of that nutty, wacky family! Didn't
he have a role on the hit show "Small Wonder", too?

smith

Darryl W. Oriold

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Nov 9, 1994, 1:20:07 PM11/9/94
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Previously:
:


Since when did a band MAKE themselves famous without people liking them?
It seems we are a little unclear on cause and effect relationships. Just
a thought.
"

How about Spinal Tap - they weren't even a group until the fans demanded
a live tour after the movie, and thenm they released a second album.

Talk about Fans Make the Band

... or so I've heard ...

Mike Uchima

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Nov 9, 1994, 1:33:23 PM11/9/94
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***************************************************************
******************* PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE ********************
***************************************************************

To everyone posting additional followups to this thread, PLEASE check
the Newsgroups: line before you post, and remove alt.music.progressive
if it is there. Fully half of the traffic on the a.m.p newsgroup consists
of cross-posted followups to this thread, which are completely off-topic
for that newsgroup.

Thank you.

-- Mike Uchima
-- uch...@fnal.fnal.gov

Joseph Bay

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Nov 10, 1994, 9:20:51 AM11/10/94
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jba...@cyberspace.com (Jerry Barlow) writes:

>"Hahahahahahaha!!! Kurt is Dead!!!" If they didn't like his music it
>even gets worse; they might compare him to a real toe tapper, like Frank
>Zappa, who had the decency to die naturally. I think Kurt said it best:


Whoo-ha. Frank Zappa was a great musician, but I don't think he *chose*
to develop a prostate the size of a coconut (it's supposed to be about
walnut-sized (and -shaped, too!(but squishier))). It just sort of happened,
unfortunately. I mean, hey, you can live without a prostate. It's too
bad he didn't have it removed before it metastasised, but hey, he's dead and
so are John Lennon, Karl Marx, Jesus, the Buddha, and DeForrest Kelley. And
there's no use crying over it anymore. Rain falls on the just and the
unjust alike - yes Jimi Hendrix shot himself too, but Motley Crue live on.
Pearl Jam's drummer died, but he wasn't all that famous or original and
I don't even know his name, so I guess that doesn't matter. Yes Kurt Cobain
was a leader for a generation - but HE DIDN'T WANT TO BE (sorry I'm shouting).
So many people loaded all their projections onto him, especially their
abused child/underdog archetype, that he couldn't withstand it. Same thing
with Marylin Monroe: she was crushed under the weight of the "sexy woman"
projections of an entire nation. Small wonder she blew up that plane!

So all of you folks out there, learn something from when your (or yr.) idols
die. They're mortalllll, just liiiiiike yoooooooou! They can't get rid
of your problems, and what's more, they probably don't care much about it.
No matter how directly you thought Kurt was speaking to you when he was
swearing he didn't have a gun, *you* were *not* the one for whom he wrote
the song.

Plus, he was obviously lying.

Joe Bay

--
"There is much more to this demented post, than this paragraph."
-- Andrew Beckwith "Grate spirits have always encountered violint
opposition from mediocer minds" -- A. Einstein
"Without trolling, the Internet wouldn't be where it is today" --John Yeung

Joseph Bay

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Nov 10, 1994, 9:23:44 AM11/10/94
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lap...@netcom.com writes:

>Jesus Christ!!! Doesn't any of these assholes have the balls to at least
>make sure that they post to an appropriate newsgroup???

Obviously, unlike you people, I don't have the time to edit the "newsfroups:"
line of every thread I help to keep alive long after it should have died.

Scot Carpenter

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Nov 10, 1994, 10:26:18 AM11/10/94
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In article <39ta83$g...@er5.rutgers.edu>, b...@eden.rutgers.edu (Joseph Bay) says:

>
>Whoo-ha. Frank Zappa was a great musician, but I don't think he *chose*
>to develop a prostate the size of a coconut (it's supposed to be about

>there's no use crying over it anymore. Rain falls on the just and the


>unjust alike - yes Jimi Hendrix shot himself too, but Motley Crue live on.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ troll

>Pearl Jam's drummer died, but he wasn't all that famous or original and
>I don't even know his name, so I guess that doesn't matter. Yes Kurt Cobain
>was a leader for a generation - but HE DIDN'T WANT TO BE (sorry I'm shouting).
>So many people loaded all their projections onto him, especially their
>abused child/underdog archetype, that he couldn't withstand it. Same thing
>with Marylin Monroe: she was crushed under the weight of the "sexy woman"
>projections of an entire nation. Small wonder she blew up that plane!

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

troll
>
>Joe Bay

>"Without trolling, the Internet wouldn't be where it is today" --John Yeung

Hmmm, given the present state of knowledge of current events...8.3. Nice try.

Jason Grazianoo (PSY)

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Nov 10, 1994, 11:17:01 AM11/10/94
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On Tue, 8 Nov 1994, Joachim Lous wrote:

> Could we get this shit OFF alt.music.progressive please!.
>
>
you don't need to have a cow dude...just chill.
>

Joseph Bay

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Nov 10, 1994, 11:14:21 AM11/10/94
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Carp...@uh.edu (Scot Carpenter) writes:

>In article <39ta83$g...@er5.rutgers.edu>, b...@eden.rutgers.edu (Joseph Bay) says:

>>
>>Whoo-ha. Frank Zappa was a great musician, but I don't think he *chose*

>>unjust alike - yes Jimi Hendrix shot himself too, but Motley Crue live on.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ troll

>>Pearl Jam's drummer died, but he wasn't all that famous or original and

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You missed this one. He was fired. Do I get extra points now? Or do you
just lose them?

>>projections of an entire nation. Small wonder she blew up that plane!
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> troll
>>
>>Joe Bay


> Hmmm, given the present state of knowledge of current events...8.3. Nice try.

Thanks. I was hoping to get them all spotted, like the DeForrest Kelly one
you left out (he's alive, Jim). But given that you posted this mere moments
after the original went out, I'm a bit impressed. Don't let it go to your
head though.

Joe Bay

And I swear I don't have a gun.

Balaji

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Nov 10, 1994, 1:08:49 PM11/10/94
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How come noone here talks about Zoltan, King of the Gypsies?

Every thread ought to mention Zoltan, King of the Gypsies, once every
day or so.
--
Balaji

To see the beauty of Laila, requires the eyes of Majnu.

Pamela A Lowy

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Nov 10, 1994, 2:18:05 PM11/10/94
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I'd just like to congratulate the humanoids who posted the last few
messages in this thread. You've succeeded in making me cry, and very
nearly vomit. Good job. You're obviously very clever. Let me know when
someone who really means a lot to you dies. Hell, even if it's just
someone who you consider very talented - even admirable. I'll be sure
to show you the same courtesy you've shown me and everyone else to whom
Kurt Cobain ever meant anything. -Pam *

Mats Andtbacka

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Nov 10, 1994, 3:49:05 PM11/10/94
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Seconded, and cut out alt.suicide.holiday while you're at it. Cobain
might have blown his brain out all over the floor with a 12-gauge
shotgun (at least the man picked the right method), but that doesn't
mean this thread doesn't bore us to death.
--

Albert Walker III

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Nov 10, 1994, 4:54:47 PM11/10/94
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In article <39r3jh$8...@larry.rice.edu>, je...@owlnet.rice.edu (Jeff Smith) writes:
|> My God!!! What a LOSS! He was a fantastic actor! I *LOVED* "Growing Pains"!
|> Kurt Cameron was my FAVORITE of all of that nutty, wacky family! Didn't
|> he have a role on the hit show "Small Wonder", too?

Jesus, what are you, a fucking MORON?? Kurt was never on "Growing
Pains!" You must be thinking of Michael J. Fox, who also did those "Back to the
Future" movies with Lloyd Bridges. Fox is NOT dead, but the kid from "Small
Wonder," played by Joey Lawrence, almost died from a heroin overdose. He
sobered up, and is now appearing weekly on the sitcom "All-American Girl." I
hope this sets you straight.
____________________________________________________________________________
Albert Walker III, pit-manager albe...@scf.usc.edu
"You have to love the computer. Just go right up to it and say, `I love you,
computer!'"
- Jon Anderson


Andrew Royle

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Nov 11, 1994, 3:56:47 AM11/11/94
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guy...@u.washington.edu (NinjaBOB of the Fuuma Clan) writes:

>In article <39kvur$h...@dns1.nmsu.edu>,


>Andrew W. Montoya <amon...@nmsu.edu> wrote:
>>In article <1994Nov6.1...@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> ja0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (I Alone) writes:
>>

>>[Snip]


>>
>>>Okay, buttwad. Let's get one thing straight: You may not like Nirvanna,

{snip, stuff left in so you know what we're talking about, if you're
interested, read the original thread}

>>>people cared when Cobain died, if you commited suicide, it probably wouldn't
>>>even make the 10:00 news!

>>>--

>>
>>You're right, Nirvana was good. Hell, I even liked it, and I generally hate

{ditto}

>>HANDGUN!!

>Kurt had too much style to use a hand gun, nope, he used a 12 gauge shot gun,
>HOooo Haaaa. Now THAT didn't just let the sun shine in, no, Kurt's last mind
>blowing experiance surely left chunks on the wall, floor, and perhaps ceiling.

>>
posted as a forward from a rabid K.C. fan/researcher

the story of Kurt Cobain from age 13:
lived on the streets from age 13, as a runaway. became a
foster child, shunted from foster home to foster home. This is the time he
became introduced to heroin. Bought his first guitar at age 14. met Chris
Novosac, and started writing songs.
He enjoyed writing anti-homophobe graffiti on the side of
logging trucks ("god was gay"). Married Courtney love(from "hole"). Fathered
Francis Beam Cobain.
the point- (a summary of a speech)
Kurt Cobain (1967-1994) was a man who 'felt' things.
hhe felt strongly about discriminating against anyone, and felt that he
should speak out. This speaking out, along with his songwriting, made him
famous. He didn't seek fame, it found him, and when it did, he hated it. he
coulden't escape from being *KURT COBAIN*, with all the expectations that
that implied. the only escapes were drugs and death. he took the latter
(eventally) when the former failed. No matter what you personally think of
Kurt, no-one can deny that he influenced a lot of people, and in 10 years
time, we may find that Kurt Cobain altered the way we thinkabout the world,
our lives and what we listen to.

"if you hate people of different colours or races. If you
hate homosexuals, the don't buy our records, and don't fucking come to our
concerts either"
- Kurt Cobain( not a perfectly accurate quote, more a
paraphrase)


Simon Pocock

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Nov 11, 1994, 5:12:55 AM11/11/94
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FUCK YOU!

Elder Morgan (el...@icicle.winternet.com) wrote:
: Really haven't seen much middle of the roadness here. I mean, whereas I
: don't think that Cobain was a god or worthless scum, I enjoyed his
: music. He wasn't a pioneer, innovator, legend, or even one of the
: greats. He was simply a guy in a band. I thought it was amazingly odd
: that Rolling Stone would keel over and offer up a whole issue to Cobain
: after giving only 6 pages to the great and amazing Frank Zappa (although
: they were very well written pages.) Then again, Nirvana is what the kids
: of today masturbate to, and that sells CD's, magazines, and bluejeans.
: (And believe you me, it takes a lot for me to even muster something about
: the kids of today at the ripe old age of 22.)


: --
: Elder Morgan DROP ACID "Players win and winners play
: el...@winternet.com EAT MEAT Have a lucky day."
: Minneapolis AND PAVE THE EARTH -Morphine
: ***"I can fix anything with my magic saliva!"- Chris Peterson, GET A LIFE***

holly s stifflemire

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Nov 10, 1994, 9:43:53 PM11/10/94
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Samuel H Theiner (sht...@pitt.edu) wrote:
: In article <Cz180...@rci.ripco.com>, Sherm <sh...@ripco.com> wrote:
: > And I'm proud to say that I am one of those losers amoung many others
: >hear.
: >
: >Peace
: >Love
: >Empathy
: >--Sherm

: Why the hell would you be proud of that?

: -Sam

because they're oblivious (and rightly so) to oh so witty commentaries
such as yours that pervade the net... why don't you waste your time
talking down people who genuinely care what you think of them...

Justin Sullivan

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Nov 10, 1994, 10:46:21 PM11/10/94
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sht...@pitt.edu (Samuel H Theiner) writes:

>In article <justin.7...@engr.uky.edu>,
>Justin Sullivan <jus...@cfd.me.engr.uky.edu> wrote:
>>tu...@uwplatt.edu writes:
>>
>>
>> Rush is a sensible fellow.. Just because you might not like "Spotted
>>Owl Under Glass" doesn't mean he doesn't care about the environment.. :)

>I myself prefer "Whining Loggers under Glass."

I have a great recipe for "Liberals under Foot."

>> The local pinko publication (student newspaper) always runs these tripe
>>little cartoon strips that relate Rush and Baby Boop from Barney's
>>show.. I really should say something..
>>

>Wait! How do they relate? Baby Boop has far more brains than Rush! There
>can't be any connection.

So you're not anti-Barney?

Melissa Behr

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Nov 10, 1994, 9:36:08 PM11/10/94
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Andrew W. Montoya (amon...@nmsu.edu) wrote:
: In article <1994Nov6.1...@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> ja0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (I Alone) writes:

: [Snip]

: >Okay, buttwad. Let's get one thing straight: You may not like Nirvanna,

: >but it was still one of the best bands ever. PROOF: they had the bestselling
: >album of all time -- knocking Thriller riht out of #1. If they sold so many
: >albums, they must have spoken to very many poeple. Your opinion of the
: >band and its members, pro or con, is irrelevant. Cobain has touched more
: >poeple than you EVER will, and has a greater place in history than you will

: >EVER have. Great or not, his effect on music was monumental, and that right
: >there removes any right you may have to talk shit about him. At least
: >people cared when Cobain died, if you commited suicide, it probably wouldn't


: >even make the 10:00 news!
: >--

: You're right, Nirvana was good. Hell, I even liked it, and I generally hate

: seattle sound. But, the point is, THE DUMB-ASS KILLED HIMSELF!! How the


: hell can someone create music that an entire nation loves, and then BLOW HIS
: GREY MATTER INTO THE SUNLIGHT?!? So what if a nation mourned? that doesn't
: change the fact that HE'S WORM FODDER!! Hell, another CD from Nirvana would
: have been getting ridiculous anyways. Now, if he'd destroyed every single
: CD, tape, and master in existance, then he would've touched my heart, BUT
: HE'S GONE, YET THE MUSIC REMAINS!! Well, I think I'll slap some Nirvana in
: the CD player, and think happy thoughts 'cause COBAIN'S DEATH DIDN'T MEAN

: A FUGGIN' THING!! And by the way, my suicide wouldn't make the news because


: I'm not a MORONIC, PITIFUL, SORRY, SLIME-SUCKING, TWINKLE-TOED IDIOT THAT
: WOULD SOLVE HIS PROBLEMS BY GETTING INTIMATE WITH THE BUSINESS END OF A
: HANDGUN!!

***HE WAS IN PAIN FROM HIS SICKNESS AND THAT'S WHY HE KILLED HIMSELF!
SOME PROBLEMS ARE UNSOLVEABLE LIKE AN ILLNESS AND SOMETIMES THE ONLY WAY
TO SOLVE A PROBLEM AND RID OF THE PAIN IS TO KILL YOURSELF***
: --
: -------------------------------------------------------------------
: - Drew | THIS SPACE FOR RENT -
: - amon...@NMSU.edu | -
: -------------------------------------------------------------------

Rob Robertson

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Nov 10, 1994, 1:05:06 PM11/10/94
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(.......*sigh*......)

Before you add anything to this ancient thread, please reflect and consider
why you lack compassion towards another person so confused that he would end
his life like that. Or, why you lack compassion towards another person so
confused that they lack compassion and would post such hurtful words.

Think! Feel! Love!

...oh well, what ever, nevermind,
Rob

Samuel H Theiner

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Nov 10, 1994, 6:33:32 PM11/10/94
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In article <Cz180...@rci.ripco.com>, Sherm <sh...@ripco.com> wrote:
>
> And I'm proud to say that I am one of those losers amoung many others
>hear.
>
>Peace
>Love
>Empathy
>--Sherm

Why the hell would you be proud of that?

-Sam
-
-
-
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Joseph Betz

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Nov 11, 1994, 1:01:24 PM11/11/94
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pal...@christa.unh.edu (Pamela A Lowy) writes:

>I'd just like to congratulate the humanoids who posted the last few
>messages in this thread.

Thanks, babe.

>You've succeeded in making me cry, and very nearly vomit.

Cool. It's a gift.

>Good job.

It was our pleasure.

>You're obviously very clever.


>Let me know when
>someone who really means a lot to you dies. Hell, even if it's just
>someone who you consider very talented - even admirable.

Too late. They're already all dead. The freshest two corpses are Dizzy
Gillespie & Miles Davis. If you know who they were, perhaps you could post
something interesting about them, their lives, their deaths. Otherwise just
put a cork in it, 'kay honey?

>I'll be sure
>to show you the same courtesy you've shown me and everyone else to whom
>Kurt Cobain ever meant anything.

Hey, sweetheart! He's been dead for *how* many months now? You planning on
getting over it soon, or are you going to be like the burners hanging around
in doorways mourning Hendrix to this day?

As the head slackers of your generation are wont to say "Get over it".

--
*************************************************************************
* Joseph Betz (bwa...@earth.execpc.com) * If stupidity was gold, AOL *
* -or- (Josep...@mixcom.com) * would be Fort Knox *
*************************************************************************

Dave Polewka

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Nov 11, 1994, 2:16:40 AM11/11/94
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jus...@cfd.me.engr.uky.edu (Justin Sullivan) says:

>>Wait! How do they relate? Baby Boop has far more brains than Rush! There
>>can't be any connection.
>
> So you're not anti-Barney?

WHO IS BARNEY? WHY ARE YOU AGAINST HIM?

--
=======================
"Endeavor to persevere"
=======================

Joseph Bay

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Nov 11, 1994, 3:21:29 PM11/11/94
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pal...@christa.unh.edu (Pamela A Lowy) writes:

>I'd just like to congratulate the humanoids who posted the last few
>messages in this thread. You've succeeded in making me cry, and very
>nearly vomit. Good job. You're obviously very clever.

Thanks. I feel the same way. I mean, just because someone, a talented
musician that *some* people feel got a little too much recognition, goes
and blows up an airplane with himself on it doesn't mean it's time to go
laughing at him.

I'm sure you'll be getting lots of email about this, though, not only from
people who agree with you, but from automated test reply sites. I did not
do this. Some sad, sick individual(tm) did it to torture people who hold
Kurdt's memory dear.

Joe

Joseph Bay

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Nov 11, 1994, 3:25:20 PM11/11/94
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jus...@cfd.me.engr.uky.edu (Justin Sullivan) writes:

>>Wait! How do they relate? Baby Boop has far more brains than Rush! There
>>can't be any connection.

> So you're not anti-Barney?

Damnit, it's baby *BOP*!!!

And how can you say she's smarter than Rush? Did she ever come up with
lines like "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice" or
"No I swear I don't have a gun"?? Did she? Huh?

Smarter indeed.

Joseph Bay

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Nov 11, 1994, 3:27:45 PM11/11/94
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kcof...@sos.net (Ken Coffman) writes:

>Remember that 1 man's fish is another man's poisson.
^^^^^^^
You misspelled "bell curve". Hope this helps.

Joseph Bay

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Nov 11, 1994, 3:31:38 PM11/11/94
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kh...@muffin.pronet.com (Andrew Royle) writes:

>Fathered
>Francis Beam Cobain.

Is that the guy who makes that really bad whiskey?

I *HATE* that stuff. Yech.


Dave Polewka

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kcof...@sos.net (Ken Coffman) says:

>Nevermind is not the best selling album of all time, however
>Nirvana knocked Michael Jackson's Bad out of the #1spot on the Billboard
>Top 100 which was really quite remarkable.

DID YOU EVER LISTEN TO "TARKUS" BY EMERSON, LAKE AND PALMER?
IT'S A KILLER ALBUM!

Jack Starmer

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Nov 11, 1994, 5:24:10 PM11/11/94
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> b...@eden.rutgers.edu (Joseph Bay) writes:

>albe...@koh-sun9.usc.edu (Albert Walker III) writes:
>
>>Future" movies with Lloyd Bridges. Fox is NOT dead, but the kid from "Small
>>Wonder," played by Joey Lawrence, almost died from a heroin overdose. He
>>sobered up, and is now appearing weekly on the sitcom "All-American Girl." I
>>hope this sets you straight.
>
>You must be some kind of idiot to think STUPID things like that. Either that
>or somebody found your terminal logged in at that stupid South Carolina school
>you go to. *Margaret Cho* is the star of "All-American Girl" and she got
>Parkinson's disease from some heated-up demarol. The thing is, the show hasn't
>changed in quality a bit! Just like when Pearl Jam's drummer lost an arm.
>That's a really sad comment on the quality of entertainment in the US today.
>
>
I just tuned in to this thread with the above post so I don't know the
conversation to this point. Albert Walker may have said something "STUPID"
but to say he goes to a "stupid South Carolina school" is a little absurd.
Oh, by the way, demarol is spelled Demerol, and "heated-up" Demerol doesn't
cause Parkinson's disease - MPTP, a side product of synthesis, is thought to
be an etiologic agent in the development of parkinsonism.

jack

LING RICHARD B

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Nov 11, 1994, 8:22:03 PM11/11/94
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pal...@christa.unh.edu (Pamela A Lowy) writes:

My mother died this morning.

Fire away.

"Oh, Kurt Cobain had a little grey brain,
And a little grey brain had he;
But the one mistake that the loser had to make
Was not to blow it out on T.V."

--
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Richard Ling Clipping: complete
g914...@cs.uow.edu.au Colour analysis: complete

Joseph Bay

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Nov 11, 1994, 3:09:55 PM11/11/94
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albe...@koh-sun9.usc.edu (Albert Walker III) writes:

>Future" movies with Lloyd Bridges. Fox is NOT dead, but the kid from "Small
>Wonder," played by Joey Lawrence, almost died from a heroin overdose. He
>sobered up, and is now appearing weekly on the sitcom "All-American Girl." I
>hope this sets you straight.

You must be some kind of idiot to think STUPID things like that. Either that

Sherm

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Nov 11, 1994, 7:32:43 PM11/11/94
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Samuel H Theiner (sht...@pitt.edu) wrote:

: -Sam

Because, I realize that humans suck in general and I don't care what
the fuck some people call me...If all the jocks and preps in my school think i
suck and I'm a loser...Then fine I suck I'm a loser and now, I've leared to be
proud of it

Peace
Love
Empathy
--Sherm

USENET Police

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Nov 12, 1994, 12:09:45 AM11/12/94
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In article <Cz180...@rci.ripco.com>, sh...@ripco.com (Sherm) says:
>
>: yeah the only reason they sold any albums are because a bunch of losers
>: started liking the band and all the influenable people followed. in truth
>: its not THEM that made themselves famous but the people who started out
>: liking them. and about 'touching' people... shit RAPE ME or WET MOIST
>: VAGINA don't touch me... they make me want to throw up. good riddence of
>: kurt.

>
> And I'm proud to say that I am one of those losers amoung many others
>hear.
>
>Peace
>Love
>Empathy
>--Sherm
>
>

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pee...@nwu.edu

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Nov 12, 1994, 2:29:58 AM11/12/94
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In article <Cz4pI...@rci.ripco.com>, sh...@ripco.com (Sherm) wrote:


> Because, I realize that humans suck in general and I don't care what
> the fuck some people call me...If all the jocks and preps in my school
think i
> suck and I'm a loser...Then fine I suck I'm a loser and now, I've leared
to be
> proud of it
>
> Peace
> Love
> Empathy
> --Sherm

sorry sherm, but i think you are trying a little too hard to assume kurt's
identity.
you're totally missing 'the point'

be yourself.....

Tony Dormio

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Nov 11, 1994, 7:43:39 PM11/11/94
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Joseph Bay (b...@eden.rutgers.edu) wrote:
: jus...@cfd.me.engr.uky.edu (Justin Sullivan) writes:

: Smarter indeed.

Baby Bop exclaims, "Where's my yellow blankie" while Rush, the less
expressive of the two exclaims, "Where's my Thing".

Daniel Steven Reinker

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Nov 12, 1994, 4:50:53 AM11/12/94
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In article <39trld$6...@mozz.unh.edu>,

You're very welcome. Now let this be a lesson to you, you whiny bitch.
If you like Kurt Cobain (lord knows why, the best music the man made
was his Concierto for Shotgun and Dripping Brain) and you are one of
those pisswimps who gets offended easily (apparently you are) then
perhaps it would not be wise to read an article whose subject
header reads "HAHAHAHA!!! KURT COBAIN IS DEAD!!!!!" It will most
likely be offensive to you. Thus endeth the lesson. Now give my
hairy shaft a good lubing, will you sweetie?

Oh, and I hope you enjoy the test responses.

Hiz Lord Dementia
--
"Love is like life - the point is not in the destination but in the
path you travel." - Richard Goth
Send in the clowns! :) deme...@cheshire.oxy.edu

da_debbil

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Nov 12, 1994, 12:23:37 AM11/12/94
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b...@eden.rutgers.edu (Joseph Bay) writes:
>he's dead and so are John Lennon, Karl Marx, Jesus, the Buddha, and
>DeForrest Kelley. And ...

David DeLaney

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Again: Define "this"...

Dave "and define 'kumquat' while we're at it, okay? I'm curious" DeLaney
--
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It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. Disclaimer: IMHO; VRbeableWIKTHLC
http://enigma.phys.utk.edu/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ / New ExploTab protection!!1!

holly s stifflemire

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Nov 12, 1994, 3:12:22 PM11/12/94
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Human Fly (sci...@ifh.de) wrote:
: In article <1994Nov11.0...@muffin.pronet.com>,
: kh...@muffin.pronet.com (Andrew Royle) wrote:
: > famous. He didn't seek fame, it found him, and when it did, he hated it.
[etc etc...]

: hey, speak for yourself. there is plenty of people that is offended
: in being associated with such a loser generation as that one you quote.
: If you people like to be losers following a dead loser, good for you...
: most of the civilised world doesn't care.

you know something, your first three posts were merely irritating... your
4th and 5th were downright stupid... we get the point that you don't like
nirvana, that you seem to hold a personal grudge against kurt cobain, and
that you have nothing better to do than expound on it over and over...
but really, if you don't have anything better to do than call a dead man
a loser over and over again, seriously reevaluate the amount of time
you're wasting on it... i could go off on some of the groups you bother
to post you liked... but i don't see the point... why do people waste
their time saying "this person sucked and i'm happy they're dead..." just
don't listen to them... don't read about them... etc...and you thought
kurt was whiny and bitchy... just imagine what you sound like...

-holly

Ram Samudrala

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Nov 12, 1994, 6:23:53 AM11/12/94
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Followups narrowed.

Andrew Royle (kh...@muffin.pronet.com) wrote:

> the story of Kurt Cobain from age 13:

There's no doubt that Cobain led a hard life---but so did many other
rock stars (I think that this is one of the things that really
motivates them to actually produce an album). I think suicide is the
ultimate choice and he has the freedom to do what he wants. Me, I
wouldn't have the guts to blow my brains. I don't care---it's good
for population reduction.

> "if you hate people of different colours or races. If you hate
>homosexuals, the don't buy our records, and don't fucking come to our
>concerts either"

This is an example of the brainwashing perpetuated by the relativistic
moment in this country, which simply dulls the mind. No one stops to
give reasons anymore? No one asks "why?" The Closing of the American
Mind goes into this into great detail, but to paraphrase "the mind
without prejudices at the outset is an empty mind."

--Ram

Ram Samudrala \ / Valine
r...@elan1.carb.nist.gov \/ Long
\/ and
Prosper.

Eric P Kimbel

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Nov 12, 1994, 8:12:42 PM11/12/94
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In article <3a0jo9$n...@er5.rutgers.edu>,

Joseph Bay <b...@eden.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>pal...@christa.unh.edu (Pamela A Lowy) writes:
>
>>I'd just like to congratulate the humanoids who posted the last few
>>messages in this thread. You've succeeded in making me cry, and very
>Joe


You, bastard Joe!!! Why you unfeeling humanoid!! Why, why, why don't you
feel for someone as influential as Kurt Cobain. I mean really!!! Someone
who wrote songs like "Smells like Teen Spirit" & "Alllllllll Apologies
(sorry have no more room for more apologies)" (feel free to post more
apologies)!!!!!!--marks just for exclamation!!!!!

Dammnit!!! you didn't post them did you??? Damn, now, I'm really hurt
and you defile the memory of Kurt Cobain.
Seriously though,
The dude did nice music.
Sorry, but I like it, flame me if you want too.

Eric "damn! these dudes at Pitt haven't washed me yet, so what I say
is my own!" Kimbel...


Albert Walker III

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Nov 12, 1994, 4:13:30 PM11/12/94
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In article <3a0qua$2...@news.duke.edu> j...@hodgkin.mc.duke.edu (Jack Starmer) writes:

>> b...@eden.rutgers.edu (Joseph Bay) writes:
>>You must be some kind of idiot to think STUPID things like that. Either that
>>or somebody found your terminal logged in at that stupid South Carolina school
>>you go to. *Margaret Cho* is the star of "All-American Girl" and she got
>>Parkinson's disease from some heated-up demarol.The thing is, the show hasn't

>>changed in quality a bit! Just like when Pearl Jam's drummer lost an arm.
>>That's a really sad comment on the quality of entertainment in the US today.
>>
>>
>I just tuned in to this thread with the above post so I don't know the
>conversation to this point. Albert Walker may have said something "STUPID"
>but to say he goes to a "stupid South Carolina school" is a little absurd.
>Oh, by the way, demarol is spelled Demerol, and "heated-up" Demerol doesn't
>cause Parkinson's disease - MPTP, a side product of synthesis, is thought to
>be an etiologic agent in the development of parkinsonism.

Dianne Parkinson is DEAD?!?!? Oh, my God! Who's going to point
to products on "The Price is Right" now??? To be honest, though, I never
believed all that stuff about her being forced to have sex with Ray
Parker, Jr...I think it was just a ploy to sell more copies of her auto-
biography, like when Ronald Reagan announced he had Lou Gehrig's disease
to sell more copies of Nancy's book. It's a sad statement on the level
some people will stoop to for money.

And what ever happened to Ray Parker, Jr? I haven't heard
anything from him since he did the theme from "Top Gun." Just another
one-hit wonder, I suppose.
____________________________________________________________________________
Albert Walker III, pit-manager albe...@scf.usc.edu
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computer!'"
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