'About halfway through Limp Bizkits set Fred Durst walks around to the
back of the pit on this mini stage type platform and says "This next
songs is about Trent Reznor" and proceeds with the song Counterfeit.
Which has the lyrics "You've even stolen your appearance from hanging
around with my family, but I, never should have dropped my guard, so you
could stab me in the back.....etc etc you're freaking me out you wear a
mask called counterfeit." '
What are everyone's thoughts on this? Will this continue? I am
starting to think maybe it was kind of harsh of Trent to say what he did
in RS when all that Durst had said about Nails was good things.
Now Manson and Durst will probably be bashing Trent in the future. The
Bizkit/NIN rivalry is interesting though... as Limp seems to appeal
more to the jock/popular people while NIN is more for the outcasts...
It almost makes sense if you look at it that way that they would have
shit between them.
Will the fact that Durst is VP of Interscope affect things at all?
NIN is my favorite of all time and I don't care for Limp Bizkit much at
all. I like Korn (they used to be good), and just see Limp as their
redheaded stepchild.
The Fragile just kills everything that's out right now especially in the
rap metal catagory.
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Durst is only a VP in title. His only control at Interscope is that
he can sign new acts. He has ABSOLUTELY no power over existing acts
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"say it. say it."
"your kung fu is the best...
I think it's funny because we all know that limp Bizkit is a cheap
"counterfeit" of Korn or any other metal band. Durst stole his appearance
from KORN while riding their coat tails to MTV. I don't understand how
this song could possibly be about TR considering most bands (Gravity
Kills, Stabbing Westward, etc.) good or bad are counterfeits of TR. I
think Durst needs to get off the crack he's on and realize that he's just
a flavor of the month before attacking somebody who has been in the
business for a decade.
I'm glad Trent told Durst to fuck off, the last thing we need is Durst
kissing Trents' ass and following him around like they did with KORN. As
far as "VP MR. Durst"....what a joke, Vice President my ass.....I'm sure
Interscope isn't stupid.....they would remove Durst before they do
anything to Trent.
My take anyway....
GsN
Cy wrote:
> From SLS News:
>
> 'About halfway through Limp Bizkits set Fred Durst walks around to the
> back of the pit on this mini stage type platform and says "This next
> songs is about Trent Reznor" and proceeds with the song Counterfeit.
> Which has the lyrics "You've even stolen your appearance from hanging
> around with my family, but I, never should have dropped my guard, so you
> could stab me in the back.....etc etc you're freaking me out you wear a
> mask called counterfeit." '
>
> What are everyone's thoughts on this? Will this continue? I am
> starting to think maybe it was kind of harsh of Trent to say what he did
> in RS when all that Durst had said about Nails was good things.
>
> Now Manson and Durst will probably be bashing Trent in the future. The
> Bizkit/NIN rivalry is interesting though... as Limp seems to appeal
> more to the jock/popular people while NIN is more for the outcasts...
> It almost makes sense if you look at it that way that they would have
> shit between them.
>
> Will the fact that Durst is VP of Interscope affect things at all?
>
Cy wrote:
> The Bizkit/NIN rivalry is interesting though... as Limp seems to appeal
> more to the jock/popular people while NIN is more for the outcasts...
hmmm...I smell self-congratulatory bullshit...'The Fragile' was #1 last week
on Billboard! Guess what? Jocks and popular people (and teenagers and
Goth-wannabes and sorority sisters, etc.) like NIN!
And he cannot just do what he wants. His choices are subject to the same
judgement that any other artist/A&R person would be subject to. He would stand
to make more money than an A&R person but he also cannot just say "sign them"
and have it done. He can make administrative changes- add publications/radio
stations/ dj's to be included in press package mailings, make publicity
decisions, people he can approve for money as scouts etc- lots of little stuff-
stuff that could build a roster but little compared to ever being able to do
what Trent does- which is all of that, and he CAN sign who he wants. Mr Limp
Fred B would have never been given that kind of freedom.
Fred Durst can suck a giant, throbbing donkeycock.
-C "you asked" M
On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, ? wrote:
> I find it funny how in a pre-MVA awards interview, Durst was asked who he
> was looking forward to seeing perform the most. His answer? "Definitely
> Trent Reznor, NIN". Looks like he's a big fan. I guess he felt stupid
> because obviously he thinks the world of Trent's music and Trent goes and
> says that basically Durst's music is unimpressive. That's what I like about
> Trent - he doesn't sugar coat things - he tells the truth about how he
> feels. If Durst cant take it, fuck him. I for one agree. This is *just*
> my opinion, but I think Limp Bizkit is the worst shit I have ever heard..
>
Listen to Insane Clown Posse (or better yet, don't). Worse.
srb
Sounds like Mr. Durst can dish it out but can't take it. I mean, what
kind of comeback is that? "You've even stolen your appearance from
hanging around with my family." ... ? He almosts sounds like a fanatic
who can't understand why one of his idols doesn't like him.
D.M
I can't get over how people, check that....complete idiots, flock to see
this ugly, low-talent, "ordinary dude." I see his fans...most of them
are just big dumb jocks or the supposed "freaks", or the monosyllabic
headbangers...It's so embarassing to hear someone call themselves a
"limp biskuit" fan. People say the backstreet boys and britney spears
and shit like that is what's wrong with music....no...that overtly
commercial shit has always been around and doesn't threaten anything
legitimate or the "rock" genre...what IS threatening is the complete
ABSENCE of rock, or anything remotely different, challenging, or
thoughtful.
Steve
SM
Obviously, Trent is given to understatement.
> That's what I like about
> Trent - he doesn't sugar coat things - he tells the truth about how he
> feels. If Durst cant take it, fuck him. I for one agree. This is *just*
> my opinion, but I think Limp Bizkit is the worst shit I have ever heard.
I would have agreed with that except I just received a spam-mail advertising
the new release of Warrant's Greatest Hits.
~Danielle
Yeah, but both of the statements you guys made means absolutely nothing.
NIN isn't *for* anyone...Trent simply does what he does and
unfortunately for him a lot of dumb people grab a hold of it because it
IS accessible...it's IS pop. Of course that is what Trent is going for,
producing something accessible so it lures people in and then maybe
they'll hear something that they've never heard before and it'll open
some doors for them.
Limp Biskuit is a lot more commercial, and not at all serious...i think
most would agree. You don't have to stretch your brain too far to see
they're just some dumbfucks with guitars and cheesy "bad attitude"
images.
Steve
SM
> 'About halfway through Limp Bizkits set Fred Durst walks around to the
> back of the pit on this mini stage type platform and says "This next
> songs is about Trent Reznor" and proceeds with the song Counterfeit.
> Which has the lyrics "You've even stolen your appearance from hanging
> around with my family, but I, never should have dropped my guard, so you
> could stab me in the back.....etc etc you're freaking me out you wear a
> mask called counterfeit." '
>
> What are everyone's thoughts on this? Will this continue? I am
> starting to think maybe it was kind of harsh of Trent to say what he did
> in RS when all that Durst had said about Nails was good things.
here's my thoughts: what will durst be doing in 10 years? texaco, or
shell? and trent? still has a great rep., an excellent producer, etc.
etc.
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Wait, you're saying that "Starfuckers, Inc." is a DIRECT stab at Manson?
Yeah, and I bet "Heresy" is a stab at L. Ron Hubbard, right?
Just because something makes sense doesn't mean it's true... much less
direct!
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What a loser, he thinks because LB is 'More-pop-then-you', that they can get
away with makeing fun of Trent. I bet that pissed off alot of people at Family
Values, because Filter was also playing, who probably have a shaired fan base
w/ NIN.
<<Now Manson and Durst will probably be bashing Trent in the future.>>
I doubt Manson would take a swipe at Trent directly, like Trent did in Star
Fuckers Inc, but maybe a few Lyrics here in there in future albumbs. And I hope
Manson and Durst dont team up and make fun of Trent, because that would suck
for Manson.
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On 7 Oct 1999, Utopiandrm wrote:
> That would be the downfall of music all together
>
>
What would? Quoting? Yes it sure is hard isn't it. Best not to even try.
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Where'd you hear that?
>but like Limp Bizkit and NIN
> Manson hate Korn,
Where'd you hear Manson hates Korn? Is there a quote from an
interview or something?
I was under the impression that Manson wasn't too keen on Korn as a
band, but thought Jonathan was a pretty ok guy.
no, actually the person who posted that is :)
>> That's what I like about
>> Trent - he doesn't sugar coat things - he tells the truth about how he
>> feels. If Durst cant take it, fuck him. I for one agree. This is
*just*
>> my opinion, but I think Limp Bizkit is the worst shit I have ever heard.
>I would have agreed with that except I just received a spam-mail
advertising
>the new release of Warrant's Greatest Hits.
i wouldn't. i think they're far from "the worst shit i have ever heard." i
think it just gets exaggerated by people because they're getting so much
attention. if limp bizkit would have come out a few years ago when there
was more "alternative rock" (for lack of a better word) on the charts, they
probably would have sold moderately and would have been dismissed as an
amusing afterthought that no one (fans or detractors) would really remember
in a few years, which is what they are anyway. (although, granted their
lyrics may be close to "the worst shit i have ever heard")
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more than likely, they'll listen to the accessible songs, then say "what the
fuck is this?" when it starts to get a bit more interesting and put in a
limp bizkit cd.
ya know, if you used a period every now and then (it's that key between ,
and /), that post *might* actually make sense.
i'm not posting this again so pay attention (i'll try to use simple words):
in that interview, he said he had a fall out with someone who's initials are
MM.
he did not say anything about starfuckers, inc.
he did not say starfuckers, inc. was about someone with the initials MM.
other people said starfuckers, inc. was about manson (including various
interviewers), but trent never did.
it may very well be about MM but TRENT DID NOT SAY IT WAS!!!
thank you for listening (reading).
Just because something makes sense doesn't mean it's true... much less
direct!>
Ok so saying that Star Fuckes Inc is about someone whos name has 2 words and
both names Start with M's, or whatever he said in that interview (someone
please help me w/ the quote)
Signed: The Sanchonator
Korn and Manson had a HUGE fight at last yrs Big Day Out festival. Manson
isnsulted Jon, who then came onto stage and punched Manson. Nocked him on his
ass
> This is a twisted web of lies and backstabbing isn't it
> Korn hate Manson, but like Limp Bizkit and NIN
> Manson hate Korn, NIN, Dunno bout Bizkit though (They are
> Realeasing their album the same day as korn to try and beat em)
> Trent hates Manson, Fred and soughta likes Korn
> Fred is good friends with korn, dunno about Manson though
You left out Primus. Primus like Korn, Limp Bizkit, Manson (although
Manson didn't know who Les was when he met him, see Primus Vidoeplasty
home video) and I have heard Les say if it weren't for Nin, Interscope
would have made no money and Primus would have been dropped off the
label years ago.
And in reverse I know korn and limp like Primus, dunno about Trent, but
how could he not? ;)
-dan
Smart ass said this ---> What would? Quoting? Yes it sure is hard isn't it.
> Durst is only a VP in title. His only control at Interscope is that
> he can sign new acts. He has ABSOLUTELY no power over existing acts
> on the label.
i still have no idea why they just didn't make him an A&R rep.
makes no sense to me.
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what would be the downfall of music all together?
please quote the post you are replying to so that people know what you are talking about. for more
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>
>This is a twisted web of lies and backstabbing isn't it
>Korn hate Manson, but like Limp Bizkit and NIN
>Manson hate Korn, NIN, Dunno bout Bizkit though (They are
>Realeasing their album the same day as korn to try and beat em)
>Trent hates Manson, Fred and soughta likes Korn
>Fred is good friends with korn, dunno about Manson though
>
Looks to me as if they're all making it up. Most of them probably
couldn't give a damn about each other. From this I am excluding
Manson/Reznor's relationship, which Manson probly deliberately fucked up
for publicity+money, but trent took it badly. I dunno why Trent gave any
comment on Durst. Spose he just said what he thought. Why don't they all
shut up and get on with music. Trent's probly never met Durst (well, for
long) so I dunno WRF that song is talking about!! He just made a comment
about he is sucking his ass, which does appear to be true.
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C'mon kid, dont kid yourself, the post still wouldn't have made any sence!
:P
Um......I did.
Blah 9sorry for the 1 liner, just defending whoever provided me with the little
interview snippit).
:::sigh:::
There was no fight, Jon came out and jumped on manson and wrestled him to the
ground in a playfull way. he did this because Manson was takeing Stabs at Davis
during his set.
Im far from a newbie :o) I was talking about if Manson and Fred became friends,
would be the downfall...
> Im far from a newbie
quoting is a good way to prove that.
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"she's lost control"
Utopiandrm, honey, why don't we go to our friends at http://www.amnin.com
and see what it says in the newbie pack? From there we could even go to
one of the netiqutte links, because I don't think that AOL is supplying
you with any. From the amnin website you will learn vast amounts of
information. Information leads to knowledge. Knowledge leads to
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> -stark- <j...@nospam.kenefick.net> wrote:
> > hey, look, vort...@home.com said...
> >> Will the fact that Durst is VP of Interscope affect things at all?
> >>
>
> > Durst is only a VP in title. His only control at Interscope is that
> > he can sign new acts. He has ABSOLUTELY no power over existing acts
> > on the label.
>
> i still have no idea why they just didn't make him an A&R rep.
>
> makes no sense to me.
>
> love and friends,
> jody :)
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Think of Fred Durst as having that "little kid" mentality, Jody. In other
words, he might very well have been offered the position of A&R Rep., but in
application to the beforehand said mentality, he would have stuck out his
tongue, whined, and complained that he wanted a title, because the "title" makes
them feel important. Remind me to find some of my Psych notes on this.
WOW@!!!! THAT WAS SO WITTY!!!!! NOW WE KNOW NOT TO MESS WITH U IF U CAN COME
UP WITH SUCH WITTY WUN-LINERS!!!!!
but then you're analyzing Limp Bizket lyrics.. that's your first prob ;)
TravisT
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> >From SLS News:
> >
> >'About halfway through Limp Bizkits set Fred Durst walks around to the
> >back of the pit on this mini stage type platform and says "This next
> >songs is about Trent Reznor" and proceeds with the song Counterfeit.
> >Which has the lyrics "You've even stolen your appearance from hanging
> >around with my family, but I, never should have dropped my guard, so you
> >could stab me in the back.....etc etc you're freaking me out you wear a
> >mask called counterfeit." '
>
> Sounds like Mr. Durst can dish it out but can't take it. I mean, what
> kind of comeback is that? "You've even stolen your appearance from
> hanging around with my family." ... ? He almosts sounds like a fanatic
> who can't understand why one of his idols doesn't like him.
>
> D.M
and what the fuck is he going to do...
"trent hurt my feelings...i want him out...boo hoo..."
this whole this is shit...fuck fred...he's a big boy...learn to take it.
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Before you buy.
He will be on VH1's "Where are they now?" I believe he will be on the
same show as Kid Rock. My guess is Durst will go on being an "industry
dewd." He will probably rank pretty high at some peak new metal label after
Interscope gives him the boot. He will be the 21st century equivalent of
those late 30-something guys you see in the industry. You know the ones
with the long hair and the leather jackets who refuse to admit the 80's are
long over. Except Durst will probably still be wearing his red Yankees hat
backwards and his tat-sleeves will be big blurs of greenish-blue ink. Oh
well, beats Texaco I guess.
- dwell
> >here's my thoughts: what will durst be doing in 10 years? texaco, or
> >shell? and trent? still has a great rep., an excellent producer, etc.
> >etc.
>
> No, Fred Durst will be sitting on the fat wad of cash that he's earning at the
> moment. He may not be on the music scene when the time comes, but he sure as
> hell won't be working at texaco or shell.
you don't think that people can blow huge sums of money? look at m.c. hammer, or
waterworld!
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Right on. People gotta stop labeling people like that. You tend to make a lot
more friends if you do stop.
- Bob
You've obviously never watched Where Are They Now?? on VH1. It should be
required watching for all up and coming rock musicians. Of course it won't do
any good ,cuz they'll just say the same things all the guys who start drinking
all the time and doing drugs say" It won't happen to me" .
Rolling Stone did a great article about this subject years ago . The percentage
of rock musicians in this country that make $$ doing music ,the percentage that
make it big,the percentage that are still big 5 yrs later,the ones who still
have $$ years later etc etc. It was really interesting,but its exactly the same
as professional sports. Most of these guys have little or no education. They
don't understand anything about handling $$. They're very young when they start
making all this $$ and they havn't had enough life experience to know that shit
like this don't last !!
Howard Stern had the lead singer from Three Dog Night on once and he said he
blew aprx 50-60 MILLION dollars!! And he made that $$ back in the 70's!!!
Howard practically had a coronary.So did I ...
Catherine
welcome to the velvet cage indeed....
it depends on if he thinks he's going to still be around then. if his ego
gets too big and he thinks he's going to be around forever then he probably
will end up in a texaco in about five years. if he's smart, he'll put aside
a few million for a rainy day (or rainy year, decade, entire 21st century,
whatever)
>He was probably talking out of his ass, especially since the band has
>never had a platinum album or single. Plus, the 70's were the time
>when record companies really started screwing the artists and no one
>had a decent record contract. I'd say probably 5-6 million, not ten
>times that. We are talking the 70's here.
It wasn't in cash. Howard was asking him to explain how you can blow that much
$$. He gave an example: You need drugs ,but you need cash to buy them. You
don't have the cash but you own a building that's worth almost a million
dollars. A guy you know offers you $50,000 cash for the title to the building
and you sign it cuz you need the cash asap to get your drugs asap. He traded
all his gold records etc for drugs. That reminded me of that segment in
Manson's book where he talked about that drug dealer he knew who had the
gold/platinum records plastered all over his apt from lots of famous
performers. Manson of course didn't mention the names,cuz we all know how
discreet he is. :)
>Ah, yes. This is much more believable. I've heard about the dealer
>with the gold records on prominent display. Once you get to the point
>of actually bartering for drugs, the bottom is not far below. Too bad
>people can't handle their excesses.
>
>
This is a pretty amusing statement considering that last we all heard ,manson
was saying something about doing painting s of drug dealers to trade for the
drugs. Cute huh?/
Todd