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Chuck Blake

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Dec 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/19/96
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Who's the guy standing in the doorway at the end of the Perfect Kiss video?

- Chuck Blake

Sam Khater

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Dec 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/19/96
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I think that's Rob Gretton, their manager. BTW, as far as I know that
is a live recording for the video. I think it was released as the
b-side to a 7" (not sure).

Sam


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Conrad P. Felber

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Dec 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/20/96
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Sam Khater <sam...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
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> I think that's Rob Gretton, their manager. BTW, as far as I know that
> is a live recording for the video. I think it was released as the
> b-side to a 7" (not sure).

I also believe it was live (look at how nervous they all seem to be! At
one point you can see Stephen's fingers shaking as they hover above the
keyboard). In any case, it is a great, >great< video for my favorite New
Order song of all time.

Con Felber

P.S.: I like to think that the shadowy figure in the doorway is Ian Curtis
(or at least, the approving >>spirit<< of Ian Curtis). It even looks like
him (a bit)!!


Iain Bowles

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Dec 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/20/96
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Chuck Blake wrote:
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> Who's the guy standing in the doorway at the end of the Perfect Kiss video?
>
>
> - Chuck Blake

I always thought it was Jonathan "Silence of the Lambs" Demme...

--
Iain Bowles
Macclesfield
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Life is strange, but life keeps getting stranger every day...
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He he

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Dec 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/21/96
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Conrad P. Felber <cpfe...@vianet.on.ca> wrote

>
> P.S.: I like to think that the shadowy figure in the doorway is Ian
Curtis
> (or at least, the approving >>spirit<< of Ian Curtis). It even looks
like
> him (a bit)!!
>

Odd. When i showed this video to my little brother he said "I bet thats
their old singer's ghost." I would like to believe that, but I really
think it is Rob Gretton.

-Jeff Sheldon
http://www.pacifier.com/~jeffshel

Ian Chapman

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Dec 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/21/96
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Sean Vickery wrote:
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> On 19 Dec 1996 20:10:00 GMT, Chuck Blake <Chu...@review.com> asked:

> > Who's the guy standing in the doorway at the end of the Perfect Kiss video?
>
> The guy in the doorway is Arthur Baker, who worked with New Order on
> Confusion and co-wrote Thieves Like Us.
>

Actually isn't Baker the bearded long-haired bloke sitting
in the control room ??

Excellent video, that.

I.
top 5 of '96

1. Labradford - s/t
2. Orbital - In Sides
3. Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - Now I Got Worry
4. Sebadoh - Harmacy
5. (tie) Soul Coughing - Irresistible Bliss
Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die

oh yah- the best single of '96 - Forbidden City!

Sue Orrs

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Dec 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/21/96
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>I think that's Rob Gretton, their manager. BTW, as far as I know that
>is a live recording for the video. I think it was released as the
>b-side to a 7" (not sure).

An edit of the live 9-minute video version was released on a U.S.
promo 12" on Qwest records. The full version is on the Substance
video. MTV plays (or used to play) a severely edited version.

Jonathan Demme, who directed Silence of the Lambs, was responsible for
this gem video.

The issue of exactly who's in the doorway was never settled in this
group.

J. Rizzo (not sorrs)


Sean Vickery

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Dec 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/21/96
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On 19 Dec 1996 20:10:00 GMT, Chuck Blake <Chu...@review.com> asked:
> Who's the guy standing in the doorway at the end of the Perfect Kiss video?

The guy in the doorway is Arthur Baker, who worked with New Order on
Confusion and co-wrote Thieves Like Us.

I love the video for The Perfect Kiss: the white lighting, Gilbert looking
absolutely stunning, the concentration on Sumner's face as he taps his
cowbell, the honesty of the whole performance... Perhaps another factor
which makes this such a good clip is that the sound is recorded live. It
seems amazing to me that NO can perform such a detailed, layered song live.

Sean.
--
Sean Vickery <S.Vi...@its.gu.edu.au> Ph: +61 (0)7 3875 6410
Systems Programmer Information Services Griffith University

Mr Matty

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Dec 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/23/96
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Anyone know what it is yet? I heard second nature, but that was from a
posting form here about 2 weeks ago.. Can anyone confirm this?

Also, i'm not impressed with the electronic site... I mean..you look at the
lyrics and their not even sure if there the right words or not, they
obviously havent consulted with electronic at all.

Matty

Daniel

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Dec 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/24/96
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This is coming from sunny Singapore. I'm Daniel and a huge New Order/ Joy
Division fan. I've been listening to them since the early 1980s
I love Thieves like us and Perfect kiss most. I hope somebody replies 'cos
there are few people who really appreciate NO over here these days.

Cheers
Love Vigilante
Daniel Lim
dand...@pacific.net.sg

Cage23

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Dec 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/25/96
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> On 19 Dec 1996 20:10:00 GMT, Chuck Blake <Chu...@review.com> asked:
> > Who's the guy standing in the doorway at the end of the Perfect Kiss
video?

The actual person standing in the doorway shaking his head I believe is
Terry, one of their longstanding tour crew members. (Responsible for
taking care of the sequencers, synths, etc). I have read that the band
acknowledge the ghostly image perhaps ressembles Ian...then again we all
know what those buggers are like when it comes to their little inside
jokes!

Rob

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Dec 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/29/96
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I think the video was a taped rehersal. They did play live but it was
obviously dubbed over with the recorded version of the song. The guy
who directed Philelphia directed that video...

Michael phua

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Dec 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/30/96
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Hi Daniel,
I am orginaly from Malaysia. Currently residing in the US. I am a New
Order/Electronic fan. Well my first New order song is Bizarre Love
Triangle flow by Blue Monday. I think I have most of the New Order
collections but right now I am in looking for Forbidden City
(Electronic) single. I know they have another single too but I am
looking forward to get them.

Michael

Sir Thomas

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Jan 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/1/97
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I don't believe the clip was dubbed with the record/cd version of the
signle as it is quite different than the official record.
Jonathan Demme indeed produced the video.
I got a slight feeling that Arthur Baker is standing in the back as well
Can somebody confirm?

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