Q: Who is "Jim" in DAYDREAM BELIEVER?
Chris&John
Hi Folks,
In the LP version of Daydream Believer A voice says "7A". Davy asks
innocently " What number is this Jim?" Is Jim the engineer or producer?
According the Personal Listing under The Birds The Bees & The Monkees CD at
http://www.allmusic.com the various producers are the Monkees and Chip
Douglas. Shorty Rogers was the arranger and the engineer duties are listed
as Peter Abbott and Hank Cicalo. The only people who qualify as "Jim" are
James Burton (legendary guitarist for Elvis), Jim Horn; sax. The info
from the sessionography Written by Kenneth Wang kkw...@geocities.com
indicates that:
...."Daydream Believer" was recorded on this day (June 14, 1967) and became
the fifth single A-side as well as being released on the fifth album.
Overdubs would be placed on "Daydream Believer" at a later session in
August. In 1997,(August 9, 1967) the group would remake this song as a part
of their medley for a TV special. An instrumental version would also be
included in the TV special. "
Anyone know if the "Jim" part was really an overdub or the actual Take
identification marker?
Any help on this is greatly appreciated. Please post or I can be emailed
at: cjma...@frontiernet.net
Thanks in advance,
John
Wayne Philipp
Nezdispenser
Nadine Sandauer
Chris&John wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> In the LP version of Daydream Believer A voice says "7A". Davy asks
> innocently " What number is this Jim?" Is Jim the engineer or producer?
> According the Personal Listing under The Birds The Bees & The Monkees CD at
> http://www.allmusic.com the various producers are the Monkees and Chip
> Douglas. Shorty Rogers was the arranger and the engineer duties are listed
> as Peter Abbott and Hank Cicalo. The only people who qualify as "Jim" are
> James Burton (legendary guitarist for Elvis), Jim Horn; sax. The info
> from the sessionography Written by Kenneth Wang kkw...@geocities.com
> indicates that:
Actually, Davy said, "what number is this CHIP", not "Jim". Chip,
meaning
Chip Douglas, the producer of the Headquarters album.
> Anyone know if the "Jim" part was really an overdub or the actual Take
> identification marker?
It was the actual identification marker.
- nadine
Chris&John
Hi Nadine and Hi Wayne,
Boy, do I feel like a jerk! Anyway thanks for clearing up these matters.
I really appreciate your help. I am complying a database of the many
versions of songs released worldwide and will be sure to give you guys
individual credit for your helpful insights. I really love the fact that
both data and ideas can be exchanged via the web. If this case it clears
up misinformation. Speaking of cleaning, better check my ears!
If I can ever assist you, just ask. Thanks again.
Regards,
Nadine Sandauer <sand...@earthlink.net> wrote in article
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Passer15
>>In the LP version of Daydream Believer A voice says "7A". Davy asks
>>innocently " What number is this Jim?" Is Jim the engineer or producer?
I thought that Davy said "Jim" too, but I was told that he's actually saying
"Chip"
I could be mistaken though.
EvilMonkee
The person Davy refers to is Chip Douglas, the Monkees' producer--I don't
remember anyone named "Jim" associated with the Monkees, and it sounds like
"Chip" anyway, so I think I'm right.
Keener7
>>
>> In the LP version of Daydream Believer A voice says "7A". Davy asks
>> innocently " What number is this Jim?"
I always heard him saying "What number is this CHAPS?" Chaps is a slang for
guys, boys, gang. Listen again
HghSchlRec
davy indeed says Chip, refering to Chip Douglas.
hope this helps!
Bave335
>>>
>>> In the LP version of Daydream Believer A voice says "7A". Davy asks
>>> innocently " What number is this Jim?"
David is saying what Number is the Chip?
Chip is Chip Douglas the producer.
tami
kee...@aol.com (Keener7) wrote:
>I always heard him saying "What number is this CHAPS?" Chaps is a slang for
>guys, boys, gang. Listen again
It's "Chip." They've both been questioned about it at conventions.
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KennieLyn
>David is saying what Number is the Chip?
>Chip is Chip Douglas the producer.
>
>
Okay, I'm not the only one who also thought he said Jim! But I've
misunderstood lots of lyrics in my lifetime...
Hi Micky! Is 33 too old? LOL
Love ya, babe!
Kendra
Maria Macoritto
Keener7 wrote:
>
> >>
> >> In the LP version of Daydream Believer A voice says "7A". Davy asks
> >> innocently " What number is this Jim?"
>
> guys, boys, gang. Listen again
The person was not Jim, it was Chip Hatfield, a recording engineer on
the Monkees albums.
Chris&John
Maria Morcoitti wrote:
The person was not Jim, it was Chip Hatfield, a recording engineer on
the Monkees albums.
>
Can anyone confirm this? Do we really have TWO guys named Chip associated
with the Monkees from the recording standpoint?
John at: cjma...@froniternet.net
tami
"Chris&John" <cjma...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>Can anyone confirm this? Do we really have TWO guys named Chip associated
>with the Monkees from the recording standpoint?
No, no... there's only *one* Chip, but he uses a couple of different
surnames. Chip Douglas, Chip Hatleid (I know I'm not spelling that
right... corrections, anyone?), all the same person. The latter was
his birth name, I think.
-tami-
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Douglas. The Lovebugs are Chip Douglas, Danny Solazzi, Tyler Douglas
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listed below.
L3isa333
>The person was not Jim, it was Chip Hatfield, a recording engineer on
>the Monkees albums.
>>
>
>with the Monkees from the recording standpoint?
>
and Chip Douglas whould be the same person. I can only assume the previous
person mistook the spelling "Hatlelid" for Hatfield.
On Headquarters he is billed as Douglas Farthing Hatlelid, on Pisces, Aquarius,
Capricorn and Jones LTD he is listed as Chip Douglas. On The Birds, The Bees
and the Monkees, which Daydream Believer is on, it is listed as produced by the
Monkees, with a footnote that DB was produced by Chip Douglas
L3isa
putting my CD's back in the holder now
Y. Collins
Chip Douglas' real name is in fact Douglas Farthing Hatelid.
Yodi
tami wrote in message <6cdbl6$690$1...@usenet11.supernews.com>...
Anita
<<Chip Hatleid (I know I'm not spelling that
right... corrections, anyone?), >>
Isn't it Hatlelid?
Chris&John
Thanks again one and all (Tami, Y. Collins, Anita, and L3isa)
I really appreciate all the help and diligence to get this matter right.
Now, let's put it to bed once and for all.
Regards,
John
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