evolution
^t^
=============
Monkees -> KISS ||
Davy Jones -> Pete Duel ||
Peter Tork -> Chuck Day -> Annie Mac
Patsy Kline -> KD Lang -> nez -> Hellecasters -> guitar music ->
symphonic music -> ballet -> painting ballet dancers
vegetable gardening -> landscaping -> flower gardening -> The Garden
art -> Impressionist art /^
nez -> Hellecasters -> guitar music -> symphonic music /^
"...tropical campfire's... -> Buckeye Blake (illustrator)
=============
Best viewed in a fixed font.
"||" denotes the end of a personal trend
-t-
^t^
served as the bridge from "then" to "now."
Anyone else want to play?
-t-
Michele
So what is it exactly?
^t^
>So what is it exactly?
Sorry, I should have explained it better. It's a mapping of personal
tastes and influences, like "this" led to liking "this," which in turn
led to liking "this." With The Monkees at the trunk of so many
personal influence trees here, I thought it might be interesting.
Here's how one of my lines works:
Patsy Kline -> KD Lang -> nez -> Hellecasters -> guitar music ->
symphonic music -> ballet -> painting ballet dancers
I started thinking about this in the past year, when, thanks to my SO
(who does effects for a ballet company), I realized I like ballet, a
LOT. Entertainment-wise, it's the only thing that excites me right
now. Yet 20 years ago, when a friend of mine (who was in some *very*
notable dance companies) was dancing, I was bored to death at her
performances, because I just didn't *get* it. Now I do.
What happened? Well, in the intervening years, I stopped relying on
lyrics, and learned an appreciation for instrumental music, partly due
to my exposure to the Hellecasters. Through them, I learned that an
instrument can have a *voice* which speaks more eloquently than words
sometimes. (This was a big breakthrough for me, because I'm very
visual, not someone who understands music well.) This led to me being
able to appreciate other guitarists, which led to me understanding
other purely instrumental music - like classical - better, which was
necessary for me to like ballet. So, now I'm starting to paint ballet
dances, because a long time ago, I liked the music of Patsy Kline.
-t-
Markshark989
>From: dr...@rome.comm (^t^)
>Date: 11/10/00 8:37 AM Pacific Standard Time
Banana Splits---Monkees---Beatles---60s rock---general rock---jazz
Michele
Ok here is mine
the monkees ---->the beatles----->many of the 60's music
The beatles and monkees can be interchangeable.
Scott Miller
news:3A0C30C7...@qwest.net...
> The beatles and monkees can be interchangeable.
Okay, who wants to start?
Scott
P.S. I'm just being silly. I'm assuming you mean the two are
interchangeable on your diagram.
Michele
I know silliness is a good thing and yes to the second thing. I am
not sure if I knew the beatles first or the Monkees it has been a
while. I like them both.
mjgr...@yahoo.com
> Evolution of personal tastes, musical and other:
>
> =============
>
> Monkees -> KISS ||
>
> Davy Jones -> Pete Duel ||
>
> Peter Tork -> Chuck Day -> Annie Mac
>
> symphonic music -> ballet -> painting ballet dancers
>
> art -> Impressionist art /^
> nez -> Hellecasters -> guitar music -> symphonic music /^
>
> "...tropical campfire's... -> Buckeye Blake (illustrator)
>
> =============
> Best viewed in a fixed font.
> "||" denotes the end of a personal trend
>
> -t-
Monkees -> Elvis and the attractions -> Replacements -> Apples in Stereo ->
Monkees
or
Monkees -> Ramones -> Blink 182
Peter Tork -> Elton John -> Jackson Browne -> Ani Difranco
Guess my musical tastes haven't so much "matured" as changed with the
times...
mj
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Lknafc
>tastes and influences, like "this" led to liking "this," which in turn
>led to liking "this." With The Monkees at the trunk of so many
>personal influence trees here, I thought it might be interesting.
Okay, here's mine, taking it in a slightly different direction . . .
The Monkees > The Beatles > The Marx Brothers > Charlie Chaplin > Buster Keaton
> Joe E. Brown > Wheeler and Woolsey > 30's movies > Dead End Kids > Bowery
Boys
Not to mention countless other classic comedians. It's amazing after going
backwards in time how much the shows tipped their hats to those classic comedy
geniuses (not to mention early Hollywood in general). Funny how my
evolutionary tastes went backwards (then forward again, slightly), but I think
that works best, because a lot of fans of the old stuff don't care for the
newer stuff, stating "It's just a rip off of the old stuff!" By going
backwards, one can discover the genesis of what came later.
And before any of the Stooges fans ask why they're not on the list, let me
assure you I'm a fan of them, too! : )
Linda Kay
mjgr...@yahoo.com
> Okay, here's mine, taking it in a slightly different direction . . .
>
> The Monkees > The Beatles > The Marx Brothers > Charlie Chaplin > Buster
> Keaton
> > Joe E. Brown > Wheeler and Woolsey > 30's movies > Dead End Kids >
> > Bowery
> Boys
>
course the Monkees were actors and comedienes as well...
mj
who grateful to be thinking about
something other than politics...
blus...@my-deja.com
late seventies AOR (in the late 70's of course)-> new wave -> Duran
Duran
Monkees -> meeting a bunch of really cool people who became very good
friends in other areas of my life.
Peter Tork -> James Lee Stanley -> see above about really cool people.
Overall, it's kind of hard for me to draw direct lines from The Monkees
to other things, although they have undeniably had an incredible
influence on my life and my tastes. For example, although
I "discovered" Frank Zappa through other avenues (most notably Dr.
Demento in the late seventies), I was more open to listening to him
because of his connections to The Monkees.
The best thing that The Monkees have "given" me is the people in my
life whom I otherwise would probably have never met. I met two of my
very best friends at a Nez video signing nearly 14 years ago....I'd
hate to think of what my life would be like now without them.
And I'd be a much less Internet-savvy person if it weren't for the
thriving Monkees online community in the early 90s. It was a safe
haven where I could learn from people who didn't frighten me with
age/sex/location checks. :) So, I guess The Monkees may be
responsible for the fact that I now work for an Internet startup!
blusilva
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pacjoy
>Evolution of personal tastes, musical and other:
>
Billy Ray Cyrus ---> Michael Martin Murphey ---> Michael Nesmith ||
Martin Short ---> Davy Jones ---> Michael Nesmith (entertainer)
The Monkees ---> Chicago ----> The Monkees ---> Richard Marx --->
The Monkees ---->^ TLC --->^ REM
Scott Miller
news:3a0c34d7...@news.zianet.com...
> Billy Ray Cyrus ---> Michael Martin Murphey ---> Michael Nesmith ||
Billy Ray Cyrus --> "Suicide Is Painless" --> "I Think I'm Going out of My
Head" --> "Please, God, make it stop!!!"
But I digress.
Monkees --> Neil Diamond --> The Moody Blues
Monkees (Then & Now/Pool It) --> 80s pop --> 80s rock --> classic rock -->
The Moody Blues
Monkees --> music in general --> symphonic music --> classical music --> The
Moody Blues
Not that The Moody Blues is my favorite band, but my appreciation of pop,
classic rock, and classical music all combined to help me love the many
facets of that band's music.
Scott
flamingoland
herman's hermits->monkees->alice cooper/david bowie <very EARLY on
in both their careers->70's punk rock
->REM <also, early in career, never now>/Dire Straits->
Stone Temple Pilots/Collective Soul/Foo Fighters/GooGoo Dolls/Third Eye
Blind
--
flamingo
http://users.ids.net/~flamingo
r burbach
"^t^" <dr...@rome.comm> wrote
> Monkees -> KISS ||
ok. i don't get how the monkees can start a trend toward kiss, but...
> Davy Jones -> Pete Duel ||
>
how very sad -- i loved alias smith and jones -- didn't duel commit suicide?
ok, my turn.
monkees-nez-hank williams ||
iggy/stooges -detroit punk scene--clash--reggae ||
clash-joe strummer-- mystery train--jim jarmusch-dead man ||
animals-eric burdon-elmore james-blues ||
Mike & Karen
Neil Young > My husband > gardening > going on home tours...
Karen
Daye <brendanaSPAM..ME..NOT@labyrinth.net.au> wrote in message
news:8ui2hq$2gd8$1...@arachne.labyrinth.net.au...
> ^t^ wrote in message <3a0c0780...@news.onemain.com>...
> >Evolution of personal tastes, musical and other:
>
> Although not as complete as yours, this will at least be on topic:
>
> Music:
> The Monkees --> The Beatles --> Hair (The Broadway Recording) -->
> Frank Zappa ||
>
> Television:
> The Monkees --> Much crap from the late 70s/early 80s --> The Wonder
> Years --> The Simpsons --> Buffy the Vampire Slayer ||
>
> Religion:
> The Monkees --> Christianity --> American Transcendentalism --> The
> Monkees --> Free Thought --> Paganism --> Apollo ||
>
Just me
>
> Evolution of personal tastes, musical and other:
I'll bite..its slow in Nowheresville tonight :)
Monkees -> Beach Boys -> 60's era oldies
Monkees -> some really nice online friends and fun concert trips ->
Falling in love with a really wonderful guy || (some things end when you
don't want them to..but that's life)
reading science fiction novels -> collectible cards games -> Dungeons
and Dragons -> four sleepless nights every year at Gen Con in Milwaukee
photography with a cheap camera -> computers -> photography with an
expensive camera ->
Hmmmm...I think my last two chains just revealed my geekiness. I'm
gonna go re-tape my glasses and read
Mischele
Daye
Although not as complete as yours, this will at least be on topic:
Music:
The Monkees --> The Beatles --> Hair (The Broadway Recording) -->
Frank Zappa ||
Television:
The Monkees --> Much crap from the late 70s/early 80s --> The Wonder
Years --> The Simpsons --> Buffy the Vampire Slayer ||
Religion:
The Monkees --> Christianity --> American Transcendentalism --> The
Monkees --> Free Thought --> Paganism --> Apollo ||
I know the last seems weird, but those 4 men have a very profound
influence on how I view certain things in my life, esp. Mike and
Peter -- Mike through his music and Peter through his views.
However, I know that not all will want to share their religious
views, and if you don't agree with me, please e-mail instead of
posting. I will be more than happy to discuss my religion in e-mail
form, but not on the group. My e-mail is bren...@labyrinth.net.au
Daye
Leisa
> ^t^ wrote:
> >
> > Evolution of personal tastes, musical and other:
Davy Jones --> Dudley Moore -->short guys in general--> my husband.
Monkees-->Peter Tork-->James Lee Stanley
Lee Anne Rhimes -->Patsy Cline (yeah I know, wrong order <g>)
Cheers -->Fraiser-->Thursday night NBC lineup
Benny Hill -->The Two Ronnies-->Monty Python-->Black Adder-->Rowan
Atkinson-->Hugh Laurie (been watching Britcoms on PBS since I was about 10
or 11 years old)
Leisa
^t^
>> Monkees -> KISS ||
>ok. i don't get how the monkees can start a trend toward kiss, but...
I've heard other people say this, too (so I'm not *totally* nuts):
The theatricality of KISS felt comfortable to me, after being a Monkee
fan a few years earlier. Both groups - who both happened to be hugely
successful when I was the "right" age for them - were made up of four
guys playing characters, instead of four guys being themselves. The
fictional aspect was what made it fun - we knew that The Monkees
didn't really live together in a rundown beach house, just as we knew
that Gene Simmons didn't spit *real* blood, but surrendering to the
fantasy added another dimension, that went beyond mere music.
Also, KISS is sort of semi-manufactured, so there's that in common,
too.
>> Davy Jones -> Pete Duel ||
>how very sad -- i loved alias smith and jones -- didn't duel commit suicide?
Yeah, he did, when the show was at the height of its success, around
the holidays. That was the second TV show I ever really loved, and
Duel was my second "TV crush." After he died, I realized that I knew
*nothing* about the real people behind the faces on TV, and never had
another celebrity crush again.
>monkees-nez-hank williams ||
That's a logical progression. I've always liked him, although I was
reluctant to admit it until The Last Picture Show came out. Now that I
think about it, liking HW helped me to like nez's music.
-t-
^t^
>Music:
>The Monkees --> The Beatles --> Hair (The Broadway Recording) -->
>Frank Zappa ||
Oh, I forgot my Zappa connection! I've started liking him only
recently:
monkees -> a monkees roadie with a very complete Zappa collection
>Religion:
>The Monkees --> Christianity --> American Transcendentalism --> The
>Monkees --> Free Thought --> Paganism --> Apollo ||
>
>I know the last seems weird,
Not weird, but it does seem like quite an interesting journey.
-t-
Celine Allan
Celine
Kevin Calhoun
> Evolution of personal tastes, musical and other:
Did this really happen? You decide:
Shakespeare -> Elizabethan theater -> staggering around London on a few
pounds a day -> RSC production of "Henry V" with Branagh as Henry ->
Branagh's filmed version of "Henry V" -> Branagh's "Peter's Friends" ->
Nez -> The Monkees
- Kevin
Celine Allan
Lloyd Bridges -> Michael Landon -> David Janssen (God rest their souls)
-> Davy Jones -> Michael E. Knight -> David Jones
seafood -> oysters on the half shell -> sushi -> sashimi
animals -> animal protest -> animal adoptions
Celine
mjgr...@yahoo.com
> In article <3a0c0780...@news.onemain.com>, dr...@rome.comm wrote:
>
> - Kevin
Yes! Nez's "Rio" was part of the soundtrack in Branaugh's "Peter's
Friends"....makes perfect sense...
mj
another Branaugh AND Nez fan :).
Stenoray
arrangements (not that I arrange songs, it's just a sub-interest of mine)
Back to the Future *and* Monkees -- the six-string guitar -- the four-string
bass guitar -- doo-wop and walking bass lines -- Elvis & classic rock music
(the music, not Elvis himself per se) -- Chuck Berry
-- Kathryn
gazkat98 --Antilles/Celchu '00--
Q: How many Floridians does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: Four! No, Two! No ... um ... wait. Can I let you know in six hours?
Robert Laurie
Musically, I went like this:
Monkees--> Beatles--> The Clash--> Various 80's New Wave acts
especially Men Without Hats (new album soon, yay!)--> REM--> The Who
(greatest band in history)--> Ocean Blue--> Jellyfish and Barenaked
Ladies at just about the same time--> Fountains of Wayne --> Waxwings
What a long strange trip it's been....
R
Robert Laurie
wrote:
>
>"^t^" <dr...@rome.comm> wrote
>
>
>> Monkees -> KISS ||
>ok. i don't get how the monkees can start a trend toward kiss, but...
Well they are both highly commercial and more focused on entertainment
than musicianship.
R
Celine Allan
> >What is Apollo?
>
> Actually, Apollo is a who, not a what. He is the Greek God of
> music, solar light, divination, truth, justice, and healing.
Oh, that Apollo! <g>
> He is also my patron Deity.
> Dsye
Not that I totally understand it, but that's a very interesting and
unique perspective. Thanks.
Celine
r burbach
"Robert Laurie" <rsl...@home.com> wrote in message
news:ekir0tkcfosbs40n8...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:21:31 GMT, dr...@rome.comm (^t^) wrote:
>
> Musically, I went like this:
>
>
> Monkees--> Beatles--> The Clash--> Various 80's New Wave acts
> especially Men Without Hats (new album soon, yay
a new m w/o hats album? cool. just wish they'd put out the rhythm of youth
on cd with living in china
r burbach
"Daye" <brendanaSPAM..ME..NOT@labyrinth.net.au>
> Actually, Apollo is a who, not a what. He is the Greek God of
> also my patron Deity.
>
how did you pick apollo, and are you greek?
roo
>Kevin Calhoun <radiomd...@thanks-pacbell.net> wrote:
>> In article <3a0c0780...@news.onemain.com>, dr...@rome.comm wrote:
>...Branagh's "Peter's Friends" -> Nez -> The Monkees
>>
>> - Kevin
>
>Yes! Nez's "Rio" was part of the soundtrack in Branaugh's "Peter's
>Friends"....makes perfect sense...
>
>mj
>another Branaugh AND Nez fan :).
>
*me remembers sitting at the movies watching PFs and leaning over
to my mate and whispering : "Omg, that's a Nesmith song"*
roo
**have a shpadoinkle day anyway!**
so says the regular lama of the LMTA
Michele
> On 11 Nov 2000 16:07:12 GMT, mjgr...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >Kevin Calhoun <radiomd...@thanks-pacbell.net> wrote:
> >> In article <3a0c0780...@news.onemain.com>, dr...@rome.comm wrote:
> >...Branagh's "Peter's Friends" -> Nez -> The Monkees
> >>
> >> - Kevin
> >
> >Yes! Nez's "Rio" was part of the soundtrack in Branaugh's "Peter's
> >Friends"....makes perfect sense...
> >
> >mj
> >another Branaugh AND Nez fan :).
> >
> *me remembers sitting at the movies watching PFs and leaning over
> to my mate and whispering : "Omg, that's a Nesmith song"*
Did the date say Who? : ) :runs behind the LMTA bar:
roo
>Benny Hill -->The Two Ronnies-->Monty Python-->Black Adder-->Rowan
>Atkinson-->Hugh Laurie (been watching Britcoms on PBS since I was about 10
>or 11 years old)
>
You need Stephen Fry after Hugh! <g>
Mine is The ComicStrip-->Pythons-->Stephen Fry-->BlackAdder-->The
Young Ones-->Rik Mayall
Get Smart-->The Man From The UNCLE-->The Monkees -->The Beatles
-->The Kinks -->Lovin' Spoonful --->Woodstock (the film)-->Crosby,
Stills. Nash and Young
The Monkees -->Michael Nesmith -->enlighenment ;)
Daye
>
>Daye wrote:
>
>> The Monkees --> Christianity --> American Transcendentalism -->
The
>> Monkees --> Free Thought --> Paganism --> Apollo ||
>
Actually, Apollo is a who, not a what. He is the Greek God of
music, solar light, divination, truth, justice, and healing. He is
also my patron Deity.
Daye
Leisa
news:3a0dac64...@news.inet.fi...
> >Atkinson-->Hugh Laurie (been watching Britcoms on PBS since I was about
10
> >or 11 years old)
> >
>
"A Bit of Frye and Laurie".
And I left soooo many of my favorite britcoms off, but one didn't begat
another, really, they just all come into my life in a group.
Leisa
MickysGirl
*ahem*..Saw The Monkees on MTV 1986..got married 1986, hubby was into
NASCAR as was I....watched races til Christmas 1999, when I got a
computer...went to Mark Martin's Roush Racing board and met a wonderful
person who was a MONKEE fan, and got me interested again! I came full
circle.
MickysGirl
http://pub21.ezboard.com/bmonkeeland
http://www.geocities.com/mickysgirl1334/
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Donna M. Davis
the lama, now ya gotta take the consequences! *mixing up a new batch of Mai
Tais*
Donna
Bartender, LMTA
roo
I ain't angry...no wrath here. Makes a change, huh?
Michelle, it wasn't a date but a Mate as in friend. One of my
oldest gal buddies who, as always when I mention the Monkees to her,
rolled her eys and sushed me. <g>
Michele
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 08:11:37 -0500, "Donna M. Davis"
> <Throb...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >OH NO!!!! Don't you hide back here! *laughing* You called down the wrath of
> >the lama, now ya gotta take the consequences! *mixing up a new batch of Mai
> >Tais*
> >
> >Donna
> >Bartender, LMTA
> >
> >Michele wrote:
> >
> >> > *me remembers sitting at the movies watching PFs and leaning over
> >> > to my mate and whispering : "Omg, that's a Nesmith song"*
> >>
> >> Did the date say Who? : ) :runs behind the LMTA bar:
> >
> I ain't angry...no wrath here. Makes a change, huh?
> Michelle, it wasn't a date but a Mate as in friend. One of my
> oldest gal buddies who, as always when I mention the Monkees to her,
> rolled her eys and sushed me. <g>
>
Whoops, You know when I re read your earlier post I realized you said mate not
date. Sorry had probably a brain fart. : :) I have friends who the same exact
thing rolling eyes etc. Even a couple of people in the star trek ng think I am
strange.
Robert Laurie
wrote:
>
I have a great two for one cd with the first two albums on one disc.
msg me
R
julima
Robert Laurie <rsl...@home.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:21:31 GMT, dr...@rome.comm (^t^) wrote:
>
> Musically, I went like this:
>
> Monkees--> Beatles--> The Clash--> Various 80's New Wave acts
> (greatest band in history)--> Ocean Blue--> Jellyfish and Barenaked
> Ladies at just about the same time--> Fountains of Wayne --> Waxwings
>
> What a long strange trip it's been....
>
> R
>
OK, The Beatles are my number one band...The Monkees came next and were
the biggest influence on my personal interest in playing the banjo(Pete)
and guitar(Mike).
Other bands that have kept my musical interest going are The Who(Live at
Leeds-best Album),Led Zepplin(they were playing THAT in the
60's????),Doors,Loving Spoonful,CSN&Y,Animals,Deep Purple(Ritchie
Blackmore-just awesome)Stevie Ray Vaughn,Robin Trower,Queen(best concert
I ever went to)Montrose,Areosmith(still),Billy SHeehan(best bassist in
the world)Journey,Foreigner,Jethro Tull,Genesis,Pink Floyd... I passed
over disco and a lot of the 80's (The Ramones -gag)
Now I do like some songs today but I don't know the names of the groups
or singers.