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fearthesmeenusimmons

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Mar 21, 2003, 5:29:55 PM3/21/03
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1. Aimee Mann_Lost In Space

I can't stop listening to this. It's such a lovely collection of 3-4 minute
pop songs, superbly crafted, but sooo *dark*, featuring lines like "We have
crossed the Rubicon / Ship awash, our rudder gone / Rats have fled but I'm
hanging on / Let me try, baby try / Baby please let me begin / Let me be
your Heroin / Hate the sinner but love the sin / Let me be your Heroin".
(She might, of course, be singing the double entendre "Heroine", but that
doesn't *really* change the meaning of the song, does it...)

2. Sadhappy_Good Day, Bad Dream

Wow. What a full-blown Bass-Monster 985 quadrabazillion watt mindfuck *this*
album is! Two of the top Bassists in the world in the same band, the
one-and-only Michael Mannring PLUS Sadhappy founder (and for my money
Seattle's best musician) Paul Hinklin, with Evan Schiller on drums. If you
hate Bass virtuosity, *please* avoid this album!

3. Faith No More_Angel Dust

See Dougie's twisted, brilliant review in the "Rock Journalism" thread, I
can't improve on it... :-)

4. Naked City_Grand Guignol

From the *terrifying* opening 17 minute title track to it's
Ornette-Coleman-meets-Napalm-Death-30-songs-in-five-minutes end, one of the
most insane albums I've ever heard...

5. MK_Boil That Dust Speck:

It's been said before, but I'll say it again...Claude Kuhnen rules this, and
every parallel, universe! Thanks, Claude! 8^P

6. Al DiMeola_Splendido Hotel

There's some good songs (Dinner Music of the Gods), some not-so-good-songs
(Roller Jubilee), and the absolute worst puddle of shite in his career (I
Can Tell), best described as Steely Dan gone horribly, horribly wrong (with
apologies to Ellen!), but also maybe his absolute finest composition,
Isfahan.

Anyone else?
ftss
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Fastbulb

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Mar 21, 2003, 6:11:38 PM3/21/03
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Now listening in my very ears:

Camper van Beethoven - Jan 17-18, 2003, Chicago

Got on a taper tree for these shows of one of my favorite bands from my college
years, now at least temporarily reformed and touring. Way bitchin', right down
to their live version of Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk." The only thing impairing my
enjoyment of this recording is that the taper - MiniDisker, actually - tried to
edit live, and cut off the ends of several songs. Argh!

Listening in the car just the other day:

Roy Harper - Flat, Baroque and Berserk

My first favorite RH album. A bit touched in the head, a bit political, and an
RF2 line tossed in as a bonus.

Hey Fear - it was you who sent me the Monte Montgomery disc, wunnit? If so,
I'll have a surprise for you in a few weeks, . . .

d9

fearthesmeenusimmons

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Mar 21, 2003, 6:21:37 PM3/21/03
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That deeninersumbitch wrote:
> Hey Fear - it was you who sent me the Monte Montgomery disc, wunnit? If
so,
> I'll have a surprise for you in a few weeks, . . .

Yes it was, I forgot to include that I saw MM last week at the Aladdin
Theater (not to be confused with Hamster Theatre! 8^P) in Portland w/ my ex,
what an *incredible* guitarist this guy is! If it's (the surprise, that is)
either the Wishing Well or 1st & Repair CD's I picked 'em up at the show
(with MM's autograph on each!), if it's anything else (like a live show,
maybe one you taped at or near Indy-town), then I'm exited!

Dave Wilcher

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Mar 21, 2003, 6:40:11 PM3/21/03
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Mulholland Drive Sound track
Audioslave
Grateful Dead - Go To Nassau
Warren Zevon - Excitable Boy
Thelonious Monk - Straight, No Chaser
Radiohead - Kid A
Frank Zappa - Bongo Fury
Jethro Tull - Living With The Past
Beck - Sea Change
Tom Waits - Alice
Bjornstad-Darling-Rypdal-Christensen - The Sea
AC/DC - High Voltage

dave
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Bill

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Mar 21, 2003, 7:07:49 PM3/21/03
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fearthesmeenusimmons wrote:
>
<snip>

>
> Anyone else?
> ftss
> --
> I need a new sig file

The Absolution of Mograth - by Painkiller with guests Sonny Sharrock,
Tony Williams,
James Blood Ulmer and Jah Wobble (CD) (1991)
FunkaDeltaBluesNoiseShreakBloodFeast Music. Spasms of music hurdling
over gesticulating dub
shattering your earbones while massaging your nether regions to beyond
full - bursting - tumescence.

A Fine, Fine Mess (A Tribute to Stan [Kenton] and Laurel [Fishman]) by
The Residents (DVD) (2003)
Smoky pointellistic zombified jazz juxtaposed with instructional
demonstrations of
exciting uses for household appliances and foodstuffs. A must-have for
every bored homebody.

Sofa King Idi Optic by the Amazing Criswell, Yma Sumac, and Korla Pandit
(DVD, recorded circa 1955).
Now here's an alternative universe. Ultra Exotic Indian Peruvian Lounge
Music is the perfect background to
the hilarious predictions of the Amazing Criswell. Keep in mind that "It
will come to pass that
the sex urge will advance rapidly and many men will flagrantly expose
themselves in public. "
Why doesn't television produce fine entertainment like this anymore?

Untitled by Frank Zappa, Don Van Vliet and Don Harris (uncirculated
tape, circa 1969)
Surprisingly relaxed acoustic session featuring Frank on 12 string
guitar, Sugarcane on violin and vocals
and the Captain on vocals and harmonica. This would appear to be a tape
made at Paramount Studios
with the three musicians thoroughly emotive run-through of the Howling
Wolf and Big Bill Broonzy song books.
I get the impression that Taj Mahal based a lot of his career on this
almost three hour performance.
The recording is so good you can hear Don wipe the spittle from his lips
and every finger sliding on every string.
Highlights include Pigmeat Strut, Big Bill Blues, the Boll Weevil Song
and the Gallows Pole.
Both Dons' voices range from unworldly, spooky and unsettling to
growling, pained, and in heat.
And Frank has never played with such a quiet, studied intensity. He's
like a man possessed.
Three songs from this session are slated to appear on the Vaulternative
Records release
"It Came From the Basement vol. 3".

Ellen Brenner

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Mar 21, 2003, 6:53:01 PM3/21/03
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"fearthesmeenusimmons" <fearthesme...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> 6. Al DiMeola_Splendido Hotel
>
> There's some good songs (Dinner Music of the Gods), some not-so-good-songs
> (Roller Jubilee), and the absolute worst puddle of shite in his career (I
> Can Tell), best described as Steely Dan gone horribly, horribly wrong
(with
> apologies to Ellen!), but also maybe his absolute finest composition,
> Isfahan.

Heh. "Steely Dan gone horribly horribly wrong" == the vast majority of what
goes by the name "smooth jazz". They take all the most superficial aspects
of the Steely Dan style, remove all its teeth, claws, and gonads (in other
words, the entertainingly snotty lyrics and the nasty-snarly-virtuoso
solos), run the whole shebang through a Muzak filter, and voila! smooth-jazz
pablum!

I had a DiMeola record back in the 70s which I liked alright (Elegant
Gypsy), and even went to see him in concert when he was touring behind that
album, but haven't been motivated to check him out since then.

/the duck
(still in possession of all her own teeth, claws, and gonads)

--
Ellen T. Brenner
http://www.mizducky.com
San Diego, CA USA


Hagrinas Mivali

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Mar 21, 2003, 6:55:19 PM3/21/03
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1. A Warm, Gentle Wind -- Paul McCartney
2. Cover Your Car with Mantras -- The Contemporary Singers
3. Born in a welfare state -- The Kinks
4. The Pufferfish Variations -- Chris Opperman
5. Wood and Smog -- Michael Kennedy
6. Tell the truth -- Lee Atwater Band

Fastbulb

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Mar 21, 2003, 7:03:21 PM3/21/03
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> if it's anything else (like a live show,
>maybe one you taped at or near Indy-town), then I'm exited!
>ftss

Smeenus has just left the building,
Those are his foot-prints right there, . . .

d9

It's "something else" - and great will be your rejoicing when I send it to you.
I don't have it in-hand yet, but all indications are that it will be Most Fine
Indeed. I cross my fingers in hopes I'm not speaking too soon, but I'm pretty
sure I'm not.

Fastbulb

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Mar 21, 2003, 7:07:43 PM3/21/03
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>A Fine, Fine Mess (A Tribute to Stan [Kenton] and Laurel [Fishman]) by
>The Residents (DVD) (2003)

*The* Laurel Fishman?

Who came to Notre Dame?

What the &^%$ , . . . I like the Residents.

d9

Fastbulb

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Mar 21, 2003, 7:09:42 PM3/21/03
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>
>Untitled by Frank Zappa, Don Van Vliet and Don Harris (uncirculated
>tape, circa 1969)
>Surprisingly relaxed acoustic session featuring Frank on 12 string
>guitar, Sugarcane on violin and vocals
>and the Captain on vocals and harmonica. This would appear to be a tape
>made at Paramount Studios
>with the three musicians thoroughly emotive run-through of the Howling
>Wolf and Big Bill Broonzy song books.
>I get the impression that Taj Mahal based a lot of his career on this
>almost three hour performance.
>The recording is so good you can hear Don wipe the spittle from his lips
>and every finger sliding on every string.
>Highlights include Pigmeat Strut, Big Bill Blues, the Boll Weevil Song
>and the Gallows Pole.
>Both Dons' voices range from unworldly, spooky and unsettling to
>growling, pained, and in heat.
>And Frank has never played with such a quiet, studied intensity. He's
>like a man possessed.
>Three songs from this session are slated to appear on the Vaulternative
>Records release
>"It Came From the Basement vol. 3".


Um, so, you're, like, as it were, willing to work out a trade for this, eh?
PLEEZE PLEEZE PLEEZE?

da9ve

Ron Spiegelhalter

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Mar 21, 2003, 7:26:22 PM3/21/03
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"Hagrinas Mivali" <remove....@sbcglobal.net> wrote...

Did I mention that I received my copy of the Roxy DVD today? It's awesome!

more later,
ron


fearthesmeenusimmons

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Mar 21, 2003, 7:26:02 PM3/21/03
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MizQuacky:

> Heh. "Steely Dan gone horribly horribly wrong" == the vast majority of
what
> goes by the name "smooth jazz". They take all the most superficial aspects
> of the Steely Dan style, remove all its teeth, claws, and gonads (in other
> words, the entertainingly snotty lyrics and the nasty-snarly-virtuoso
> solos), run the whole shebang through a Muzak filter, and voila!
smooth-jazz
> pablum!

I'm afraid that even that would be an improvement on "I Can Tell". Imagine
the Dan (minus the ability to write lyrics of any substance at all) being
covered by Will To Power, who released for *my* money the worst video in the
history of VH1. Their (WtP's) "song" was a medley of Peter Frampton's "Baby
I Love Your Way" (blech) sung by the marginally attractive but
not-nearly-as-young-as-she-wants-to-be female fluffball in her underwear, &
"Free Bird" (?!?) sung by her completely inept mullet-sporting biker
boyfriend. DiMeola's "singing" voice is no better than that idiot...

Bill

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Mar 21, 2003, 7:52:32 PM3/21/03
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Did you find the Easter Egg for the clip of Frank with the stripper?

Sam Rouse

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Mar 21, 2003, 7:24:31 PM3/21/03
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Eraserhead (video)
CNN (audio)

[not really, but the idea is intriguing....]

Brian Bernardini

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Mar 21, 2003, 8:01:20 PM3/21/03
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Let's see...

Andy West-Rama 1
Band From Utopia-Toad's Place 11/6/95
Bill Hicks-Chicago '91
Blood, Sweat and Tears-What Goes Up (Disc One)
Bruce Hornsby/Bela Fleck-8/21/99

- These guys are AMAZING together. It's just the two of them, and they
play like one four-armed being. Actually, they sound like more arms than
that.

Dogbowl-Fantasic Carburetor Man
Dogbowl-Tit!
Dream Theater-When Dream And Day Unite
Dweezil Zappa-What The Hell Was I Thinking

- No, not THAT one. But a collection of TV, etc. appearances

Elvis Costello-Angry Young Sod
Elvis Costello-This Year's Model
Erasure-Pop!
Faith Hill/Tim McGraw-10/8/00

- The bits I've listened to sound like the recorder was stuffed up
somebody's ass.

Firefall-4/18/79
FZ-1/28/77
FZ-4/19/88 (is there a version of this with a complete "Cruisin' For
Burgers"?)
FZ-10/20/77
FZ-10/31/78
FZ-Stage 2
Genesis-11/29/81

- A lot of "Three Sides Live" was taken from this show, and
understandably so. It rocks. This is the Westwood One vinyl, so it's not
complete, but it has a great Sprite commerial that totally rips off Toto.

Gentle Giant-Free Hand
Giraffe-Giraffe
John Oswald/Grateful Dead-Grayfolded
Illegal Art (collection of tracks from illegal-art.org)
John Cage-The 25-Year Retrospective Concert
Kaviar-The Kaviar Sessions
KG-Shaming Of The True
King Crimson-Collector's Club 21
King Crimson-The Power To Believe
Laura Nyro-Eli And The Thirteenth Confession

- So THAT'S where Rundgren got it!

Les Claypool-"Spur Of The Moment" (I forget the date)
Martina McBride-Live At The Fox Theater
MK-WS and WSA
Nazz-Nazz III
Negativland-Deathsentences...
P-Funk-Howard Theater 11/1/78
McCartney-Wingspan
Phil Collins-Dance Into The Light
Rick Wakeman-Live premiere of "Return To The Centre Of The Earth"
The Samples-9/13/01
The Samples-Anthology In Motion
The Saw Doctors-Villains?
Sean Kelly-Light House Rocket
Take 6-Live
Teenage Fanclub-Songs From Northern Britain
Tha Alkaholiks-Coast II Coast
Tha Alkaholiks-Likwidation
Tony Levin-Waters Of Eden
Toy Matinee-Toy Matinee
Trey Anastasio-Trey Anastasio

Some other things I've recently listened to/watched:

Peter Gabriel-Ovo
Todd Rundgren-Demos and Lost Albums (featuring the long lost Utopia
album "Disco Jets")
Spinal Tap-LA and San Fran shows from the '01 tour (one is incomplete,
and the other has some flaws, but the entire Folksmen set!)
Spock's Beard-The Making of V (this album is just perfect)
An Evening With Kevin Smith
Simpsons-Season 2
South Park-Season 1 Commentary (not too late to get in on my eBay
auction!)

-B


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W1P

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Mar 21, 2003, 8:30:09 PM3/21/03
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I've never responded to one of these before but I will now (my six changer in
the car) because I'm quite certain it will eliminate any esteem with which I am
held:

1. Puddle of Mudd -- Come Clean (what can I say, I'm a sucker for grungy Pearl
Jam soundalikes -- "She F**king Hates Me")
2. Numira - Numira (My good friends' indie EP (available at
http://www.cdstreet.com if you care -- sounding like a combination of
Soundgarden, Kings X and Stone Temple Pilots)
3. Kicking Harold -- spaceage breakdown (what can I say, I'm a sucker for
grungy pop Kurt soundalikes)
4. Kings X - Gretchen Goes to Nebraska (maybe the best record ever made --
everybody knows a little bit of something -- Ty rules)
5. Groove Yard (Reggae Compilation) (I like dem riddims mon. Burning Spear
Marcus Garvey and Steel Pulse Ku Klux Klan are heavy duty conscious music.
Irie)
6. MK & BFD - Dancing (I'm so glad Bob Tedde dragged me to see MK -- how did I
live through 1999 without having even heard of this guy? I feel like a
bonehead)


"It was a cruel song, but fair" Roger Waters, commenting on "You Gotta Be
Crazy," Los Angeles, California 4/26/75. http://www.whichonespink.com

W1P

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Mar 21, 2003, 8:31:40 PM3/21/03
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>Way bitchin', right down
>to their live version of Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk."

Did they do Instellar Overdrive? Much superior to Tusk. You're a bad trip.

>Roy Harper - Flat, Baroque and Berserk

Hats off to the vocalist on Have A Cigar

W1P

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Mar 21, 2003, 8:34:45 PM3/21/03
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>Tha Alkaholiks-Coast II Coast
>Tha Alkaholiks-Likwidation

Believe it or not, Which One's Pink? played a show at the House of Blues with
the Alkaholiks and the Kottonmouth Kings

Brian Bernardini

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Mar 21, 2003, 9:32:14 PM3/21/03
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In article <20030321203445...@mb-mf.aol.com>,
wch1i...@aol.comeinhere (W1P) wrote:

> >Tha Alkaholiks-Coast II Coast
> >Tha Alkaholiks-Likwidation
>
> Believe it or not, Which One's Pink? played a show at the House of Blues with
> the Alkaholiks and the Kottonmouth Kings

Okay...obviously, somebody was doing way too many drugs when they put
together that bill. Good for them!

-Brian

Ron Spiegelhalter

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"Bill" <billf...@patriot.net> wrote...

> Ron Spiegelhalter wrote:
> >
> > Did I mention that I received my copy of the Roxy DVD today? It's
awesome!
>
> Did you find the Easter Egg for the clip of Frank with the stripper?

I sure did, and you know what? It *does* look just like a Telefunken U-47!

go figure,
ron


Ron Spiegelhalter

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Mar 21, 2003, 10:05:54 PM3/21/03
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"Brian Bernardini" <bbern...@comLOOKATTHATcast.net> wrote...
> Let's see...
> (snip)

> Faith Hill/Tim McGraw-10/8/00
>
> - The bits I've listened to sound like the recorder was stuffed up
> somebody's ass.


Top Ten responses to this snippet of Brian's post...

10) Well, I suppose if you have to listen to Faith Hill and Tim McGraw, that
would be as good a place as any to do it from.

9) Maybe the taper was trying to escape.

8) "We took these two recordings of Faith Hill and Tim McGraw, one of which
was recorded from inside a man's ass. Let's see if our panel of experts can
tell the difference..."

7) Actually, that's not a Faith Hill/Tim McGraw show, it's just a recording
of a guy with a microphone up his ass. Common mistake.

6) You think that's bad, you should see the video!

5) "And in other news, tragedy was averted today when a taper at a Faith
Hill/Tim McGraw show realized where he was and immediately shoved his tape
recorder up his ass."

4) Gives new meaning to the phrase, "shitty music."

3) "Mr. Johnson, the surgery went fine, but I've got good news and bad news.
The good news is we managed to remove that tape recorder from your rectum.
The bad news..."

2) Thank God it wasn't a soundboard recording!

And the Number One response to this snippet of Brian's post...

1) Hey, is that a tape recorder in your ass or are you just at a Faith
Hill/Tim McGraw show?


hey i kid because i love,
ron


John Willcoxon

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Mar 21, 2003, 10:17:06 PM3/21/03
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Laughing my ass off ova' here!
This may be the ultimate definition of sounding like dogfuck

JWDQ

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Hagrinas Mivali

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"W1P" <wch1i...@aol.comeinhere> wrote in message
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> >Way bitchin', right down
> >to their live version of Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk."
>
> Did they do Instellar Overdrive? Much superior to Tusk. You're a bad
trip.
>
> >Roy Harper - Flat, Baroque and Berserk
>
> Hats off to the vocalist on Have A Cigar

For which he still has not gotten paid.


Brian Bernardini

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Mar 21, 2003, 10:22:47 PM3/21/03
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In article <v7nldkb...@corp.supernews.com>,
"John Willcoxon" <joh...@charter.net> wrote:

> Laughing my ass off ova' here!
> This may be the ultimate definition of sounding like dogfuck

I did not realize there were previous definitions, never having heard
this term before.

Chris Ingalls

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Mar 21, 2003, 11:22:53 PM3/21/03
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Kathleen Battle/James Levine: Mozart Opera Arias
Mike Keneally: Wooden Smoke & Wooden Smoke Asleep
J. S. Bach: Musical Offering (David Moroney)
King Crimson: Discipline
Messiaen: Vingt Regards Sur L'Enfant Jesus (Pierre Laurent Aimard)
Wilco: Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Bach: Violin Concertos (Nigel Kennedy)
Police: Outlandos D'Amour
Bach: English Suites 1/3/6 (Murray Perahia)
Joe Jackson Band: Vol. 4
Orlando Consort: Call of the Phoenix
Various Artists: Ultra Lounge - Organs in Orbit
Rosamunde Quartett: Webern/Shostakovich/Burian
Soundtrack: Punch-Drunk Love
Keith Jarrett: Always Let Me Go
Bartok: Six String Quartets (Julliard Quartet)
Peter Gabriel: 1
Anonymous 4: La Bele Marie
Telemann: Trauer-Actus (Cantus Colln)

Chris

Doug Boucher

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Mar 22, 2003, 12:34:44 AM3/22/03
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It's frightening how much country music I've listened to this week. The old
shit. Because that's how I likes it.


Willie Nelson - Red-Headed Stranger, Who'll Buy My Memories Vol. 1 & 2
I like it when it's just Willie and his guitar, or with spare backing. I
love this guy's voice and the way he phrases this shit is from Venus. The
songs are neato too.

Waylon Jennings - Legendary
Three CD set. I'd forgotten how great some of this stuff is. The guy had a
fabulous voice, many a great song, and he did it his way, not caving into
the freeze-dried Nashville methods. A true original.

Dwight Yoakam - dwightyoakamacoustic.net
Dwight scares me sometimes, because he's been doing too much overproduced
watered-down shit in recent years, but this album is just him and his guitar
and reminds me of why I liked him before, back when he was doing stuff with
more depth and character. And you gotta love a guy who will write a song
with an opening line like "It won't hurt when I fall down from this
barstool." I think you know what the rest of the song is about already.

AC/DC - Back In Black, Highway To Hell.
If you take this stuff seriously at all, you're a fucking freak, but it sure
is fun rock and roll. I've been singing an acoustic version of Rock And Roll
Ain't Noise Pollution this week. I do it an octave down because...well, if
you don't know, you ain't paying attention. It hurts my throat to think
about it. My acoustic version of Girls Got Rhythm would be cool too if I
wouldn't keep laughing my ass off before I can finish it.

Supertramp - Crime Of The Century, Breakfast In America
Beautifully written and performed 70s prog-pop at its finest. Bloody well
right indeed.

Johnny Cash - all sorts of stuff this week, but I heard American IV: The Man
Comes Around for the first time tonight and it fucked me up. Johnny Cash
singing Nine Inch Nails? Depeche Mode? After hearing those two, the Sting
cover seems predictable. It's a fairly amazing album. He's really sounding
old, but he's also really sounding *right*. Damn how I love Johnny Cash.

Faith No More - The Real Thing, Angel Dust, Album Of The Year
You know, ALL these albums sound like piles of meat being tenderized by
Satan's Fuckstick. I'd give a testicle to sing like Mike Patton, and
something tells me I'd have to.

Motorhead - Ace Of Spades
Because I can.

Bill Hicks - tons of stuff. James Tejada was kind enough to tape me some
Hicks last year, (thanks James!) and I'm finally really digging into him
now. I downloaded a shitload of stuff from WinMX last week to satisfy my
cravings for more of this funny, funny, twisted shit. If I didn't have
asthma and tonsil problems, this shit would be enough to make me start
smoking again, just to keep up with him.

Gram Parsons - GP/Grievous Angel
It's a fucking shame that this guy doens't get more mention, becuase to my
ears, this is about as good as country music gets. He's supposedly one of
the first country/rock people, but 90% of this is *country*, and it's
absolutely gorgeous. You'd have to be dead not to be affected by some of
these songs and how beautiful they are. Emmylou Harris on harmony, and my
gawd that woman can sing. This stuff makes 90% of the shit I've heard in
country music in the post-Garth world sound like mouse droppings. Not that
this is hard to do, but buy it anyway. It'll kill ya.

Warren Zevon - I've got complete albums of his here, but I just seem to play
the same damn song over and over again. My Shit's Fucked Up is the single
greatest slab of recorded sound in history. OK, I'm biased, but what the
fuck. He's got other cool stuff, but right now it just doesn't matter.

The Beatles - Abbey Road
I shouldn't have to explain this. I recently learned the guitar solo on
Something, because it had to be done.

Aimee Mann - Lost In Space
Jeezus, this is absolutely beautfiul, absolutely addictive. I'm in awe.

Crowded House - 1st
I wanna play bass for Neil Finn. Hell, I'll clean his toilets. Just let me
near him long enough to absorb some of whatever it is that makes him write
the stuff that sticks in my brain like that.

Mike Keneally -hat
Still retains all its goofy charm, and I still love it muchly.

Dougie


fearthesmeenusimmons

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Mar 22, 2003, 1:36:57 AM3/22/03
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Dougie:

> Aimee Mann - Lost In Space
> Jeezus, this is absolutely beautfiul, absolutely addictive. I'm in awe.

Yay! It's not just me! I have literally played this album at least once (and
more often than not, twice) a day every day for the last 4-5 weeks, except
for the week after I had my stuff ripped off. It's a good thing she's
running her own show, so to speak, as far as being her own record label and
stuff. There is no way in fuck that bonehead record executives would have
let her release this album, it's too dark. They would have made her sing
about bunnies and daffodils and chirping goddamn birdies and all that happy
fucking horseshit...

I've been sitting on my fat old ass all day, it being my day off 'n all, so
today's the 1st day in a long time I haven't played LiS...wait a sec, I
might have spoken too soon...
ftss
NP: Aimee Mann_Lost In Space

John Willcoxon

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Fuckin' A!!!!!!!!
Live @ Hammersmith is good too......

JWDQ

W1P

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Mar 22, 2003, 2:45:43 AM3/22/03
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>Supertramp - Crime Of The Century

Rudy's on the train to nowhere . . .

I think Child of Vision is one of the most underrated epics of all time. Just
Another Nervous Wreck is cool too. If I ever hear Goodbye Stranger or the
Logical Song again, I'll puke

snow lizard

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Mar 22, 2003, 5:20:16 AM3/22/03
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W1P wrote:

>5. Groove Yard (Reggae Compilation) (I like dem riddims mon. Burning Spear
>Marcus Garvey and Steel Pulse Ku Klux Klan are heavy duty conscious music.
>Irie)

Steel Pulse was way, non-irie controversial when they'd dress up for
live performance of Ku Klux Klan. It sent shockwaves to the audiences.
Handsworth Revolution has better songs on it, but Tribute to the
Martyrs and Reggae Fever are better albums as far as I'm concerned.
The Island Records anthology called Sound System includes all three
albums, and (by far) the best Reggae I've ever heard.

Burning Spear has been around a lot longer than most if not all other
Reggae bands - I dig Steel Pulse way more, but this guy deserves
credit for pioneering the genre.


sl

--
"It was a chilly situation" - Milhouse Gurdity

snow lizard

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Mar 22, 2003, 5:31:04 AM3/22/03
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At the moment, absolutely nothing. My father died about 48 hours ago,
so it kind of fucks up the mood.

I recieved Napoleon Murphy Brock's album Balls and Oppy Music Vol. I
Purple, Crayon. recently. These albums were occupying the bulk of my
recent listening. Oppy's album is intriguing, and essential, and
mostly impossible to describe. Napi's album is very warm and funky,
with a metric shitload of soul.


sl

Ron Spiegelhalter

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Mar 22, 2003, 6:49:55 AM3/22/03
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"snow lizard" <cpop1...@Myahoo.com> wrote...

> At the moment, absolutely nothing. My father died about 48 hours ago,
> so it kind of fucks up the mood.

Damn. Big sorries from over here.

ron


Bill

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Mar 22, 2003, 10:36:37 AM3/22/03
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Yes.

Bill

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Mar 22, 2003, 10:37:13 AM3/22/03
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No. Sorry.

Bill

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Mar 22, 2003, 10:41:10 AM3/22/03
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Hagrinas Mivali wrote:
>
> 1. A Warm, Gentle Wind -- Paul McCartney
> 2. Cover Your Car with Mantras -- The Contemporary Singers
> 3. Born in a welfare state -- The Kinks
> 4. The Pufferfish Variations -- Chris Opperman
> 5. Wood and Smog -- Michael Kennedy
> 6. Tell the truth -- Lee Atwater Band

Cool.

John Willcoxon

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Mar 22, 2003, 11:23:44 AM3/22/03
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Major condolences Mr. Lizard........ : (

JWDQ

Ellen Brenner

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Mar 22, 2003, 11:43:36 AM3/22/03
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"snow lizard" <cpop1...@Myahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3e7c381c...@news.rslnet.net...

> At the moment, absolutely nothing. My father died about 48 hours ago,
> so it kind of fucks up the mood.

Oh dear. My deepest condolences.

/the duck


Doug Boucher

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Mar 22, 2003, 11:56:27 AM3/22/03
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"snow lizard" <cpop1...@Myahoo.com> wrote

> At the moment, absolutely nothing. My father died about 48 hours ago,
> so it kind of fucks up the mood.

I'm very sorry to hear that. All the best to you and your family.

Dougie


A.C.

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Mar 22, 2003, 11:58:32 AM3/22/03
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"snow lizard" <cpop1...@Myahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3e7c381c...@news.rslnet.net...
> At the moment, absolutely nothing. My father died about 48 hours ago,
> so it kind of fucks up the mood.
>

I'm sorry to hear that. Warm thoughts going your way.


David Steed

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Mar 22, 2003, 2:26:00 PM3/22/03
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"Ron Spiegelhalter" <r...@mktrading.orgASM> wrote in message news:O4Oea.1196

> Did I mention that I received my copy of the Roxy DVD today? It's
awesome!
>
> more later,
> ron
>

Please tell me more. I've completely missed hearing anything about this.

David


David Steed

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Mar 22, 2003, 2:28:39 PM3/22/03
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"Brian Bernardini" <bbern...@comLOOKATTHATcast.net> wrote in message
news:bbernardini-5C92...@host28.newsfeeds.com...


>
> Some other things I've recently listened to/watched:
>
> Todd Rundgren-Demos and Lost Albums (featuring the long lost Utopia
> album "Disco Jets")

I was a bit disappointed with this (particularly with the high price it cost
from Japan). The demos didn't seem too different and the lost album was
probably lost with good reason.


David


David Steed

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Mar 22, 2003, 2:30:35 PM3/22/03
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"Brian Bernardini" <bbern...@comLOOKATTHATcast.net> wrote in message
news:bbernardini-5C92...@host28.newsfeeds.com...
> Let's see...
>

> FZ-4/19/88 (is there a version of this with a complete "Cruisin' For
> Burgers"?)

It seems complete on my tape which is pretty good and supposedly first
generation from the guy who recorded it. Undoubtedly other recordings exist
though. Unfortunately I don't have the facilities to convert tapes to CDs.

David


Brian Bernardini

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Mar 22, 2003, 3:04:06 PM3/22/03
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In article <cN2fa.216$NV5...@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"David Steed" <david...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

Well, I bought it slightly used from somebody, so it didn't cost quite
as much. I've always enjoyed "Disco Jets" ever since I got a crappy
cassette copy years ago. But that sort of thing always amuses me.

Dave Wilcher

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Mar 22, 2003, 4:23:48 PM3/22/03
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David Steed wrote:

>> Did I mention that I received my copy of the Roxy DVD today? It's
>> awesome!
>

> Please tell me more. I've completely missed hearing anything about
> this.

Sorry David, not yet. It was a joke, part of the Bill-virus that's been
spread around here. ;-)

dave
--
The best cure for the ills of democracy is more democracy. - Ed Abbey


Doug Boucher

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Mar 22, 2003, 4:57:30 PM3/22/03
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"Dave Wilcher" <dwil...@woh.rr.com> wrote

> >> Did I mention that I received my copy of the Roxy DVD today? It's
> >> awesome!
> >
> > Please tell me more. I've completely missed hearing anything about
> > this.
>
> Sorry David, not yet. It was a joke, part of the Bill-virus that's been
> spread around here. ;-)


Announcing The New Album From Anthrax - The Bill-Virus


Veteran metal-rockers Anthrax, who were briefly the worst named band in
history during fall 2001, have returned with a rockin' new disc entitled The
Bill-Virus, guaranteed to please fans of the seriously overlooked sub-genre
of "disease metal", soon to be a phenomenon among pissed-off teens
everywhere. This new Anthrax album is based on the concept of "Shit that can
kill you", according to whoever is lead vocalist this week, when interviewed
by our team of medical experts.

Track listing:

1.) Prelude To The Bill-Virus
2.) Gone Postal
3.) Ethel, You've Got Mail!
4.) The Insurance Payment Blues
5.) White Powder
a.) Opening The Letter
b.) Hey, What's This Fucking White Shit In My Mail?
c.) Goddamn Bill Collectors
6.) The Bill-Virus
7.) This Wasn't Covered In My Policy!
8.) The Lonesome Death Of Ethel Q. Walrustitty
9.) The Bill-Virus (Slight Return)
10.) OK, The Bitch Is Really Dead Now
11.) Watchin' CNN Blues
12.) (I Can't Get No) Postal Satisfaction
13.) Paranoid (Finished With My Mailman 'Cause He Couldn't Help Mom When She
Died)
14.) Attack Of The Killer Fed-Ex Drivers
15.) The Bill-Virus (Extended Funeral March Remix)


OK, mine aren't as believable as Bill's,
Dougie


Brian Bernardini

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Mar 22, 2003, 4:58:20 PM3/22/03
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In article <e%4fa.106467$jP2.18...@twister.neo.rr.com>,
"Doug Boucher" <doodi...@poop.com> wrote:

> "Dave Wilcher" <dwil...@woh.rr.com> wrote
>
> > >> Did I mention that I received my copy of the Roxy DVD today? It's
> > >> awesome!
> > >
> > > Please tell me more. I've completely missed hearing anything about
> > > this.
> >
> > Sorry David, not yet. It was a joke, part of the Bill-virus that's been
> > spread around here. ;-)
>
>
> Announcing The New Album From Anthrax - The Bill-Virus
>
>
> Veteran metal-rockers Anthrax, who were briefly the worst named band in
> history during fall 2001, have returned with a rockin' new disc entitled The
> Bill-Virus, guaranteed to please fans of the seriously overlooked sub-genre
> of "disease metal", soon to be a phenomenon among pissed-off teens
> everywhere. This new Anthrax album is based on the concept of "Shit that can
> kill you", according to whoever is lead vocalist this week, when interviewed
> by our team of medical experts.

Didn't you know? YOU'RE lead vocalist this week. Since I'm a "Be" and
you're a "Bo", I had my turn around June of 2001.

Dave Wilcher

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Mar 22, 2003, 5:21:28 PM3/22/03
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Doug Boucher wrote:

> 8.) The Lonesome Death Of Ethel Q. Walrustitty

Bwaahahahaha!

> 13.) Paranoid (Finished With My Mailman 'Cause He Couldn't Help Mom
> When She Died)

I love you Dougie.

> OK, mine aren't as believable as Bill's,

But it was funnier by half.

Doug Boucher

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Mar 22, 2003, 5:21:54 PM3/22/03
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"Brian Bernardini" <bbern...@comLOOKATTHATcast.net> wrote

> > everywhere. This new Anthrax album is based on the concept of "Shit that
can
> > kill you", according to whoever is lead vocalist this week, when
interviewed
> > by our team of medical experts.
>
> Didn't you know? YOU'RE lead vocalist this week. Since I'm a "Be" and
> you're a "Bo", I had my turn around June of 2001.

Sorry, I just finished doing a three-song CD to get me some local solo gigs
with, and my voice is saying "Fuck you, I'm done for the night." But I can
almost sing again! Yay to getting rid of colds!

Of course, I'd be glad to help them do I'm The Man...
Dougie
(I'm not sounding as good as I'd like, but after seeing the two whitest
people on the planet last night doing an acoustic duo at the local
shitty-beer emporium, I figure I'll get by.)


Brian Bernardini

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Mar 22, 2003, 5:33:59 PM3/22/03
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In article <6m5fa.106686$jP2.18...@twister.neo.rr.com>,
"Doug Boucher" <doodi...@poop.com> wrote:

> (I'm not sounding as good as I'd like, but after seeing the two whitest
> people on the planet last night doing an acoustic duo at the local
> shitty-beer emporium, I figure I'll get by.)

Eeek! (You have no idea how many tries it took to type that correctly.)
Gotta hate those. I saw one a while back, and it seemed that their
version of Pure Prairie League's "Amie" was the most upbeat thing they
did. (Of course they did "Strong Enough", and I hate anybody who covers
The Whore.)

Doug Boucher

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Mar 22, 2003, 7:20:38 PM3/22/03
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"Brian Bernardini" <bbern...@comLOOKATTHATcast.net> wrote

> > (I'm not sounding as good as I'd like, but after seeing the two whitest
> > people on the planet last night doing an acoustic duo at the local
> > shitty-beer emporium, I figure I'll get by.)
>
> Eeek! (You have no idea how many tries it took to type that correctly.)

42?

> Gotta hate those. I saw one a while back, and it seemed that their
> version of Pure Prairie League's "Amie" was the most upbeat thing they
> did.

There's some miserable classic-rock wannabe motherfuckers out there, eh?
These guys I saw last night were amazing. I mean that in a bad way. I
actually have seen them before, at a Borders last year. Last night, I
thought I was going to see another local guy (Who I've seen before and is
kinda neat. I mean, he does like 6 Neil Young songs in one set, how can I
NOT like that?) but it was these sorry fuckers, and it wans't until their
wretched version of The Cure's Just Like Heaven (one of their better
moments, I may add) that I realized they were the same white boys I saw last
year who bored the fuck out of me. I'm sure they're perfectly nice people
and I shouldn't make fun of them but...oh, fuck it, they sucked gigantic
donkey cock. The guy doing the lead work was playing totally out of key half
the time, and when he did do it "right", there was no subtlety at all, just
these little plinky single notes from a badly miked acoustic guitar going
GONK! GONK! GONK! That was their version of Bob Seger's Main Street. (Which
should be enough to get them shot to begin with, but...) The other guy was
actually carrying the thing, but somebody should have carried him to the
nearest guitar store and bought him Volume TWO of Mel Bay's Mongoloid-Level
Strumming Patterns For People With The Rhythm Of Low-Fat Cottage Cheese. I
mean, SUCK that big ol' donkey cock, bitch!

I admit it, I'm just lashing out because I've spent two years away from
playing on a regular basis and it's taken me the past three months of
morning practice time to get any sembalence of confidence in myself back.
I've been so uptight about how much *I* suck, that seeing two pussies who
make me look like a cross between Michael Hedges and Otis Redding feels
REALLY good and I'm being incredibly smug and self-serving about my
criticism of these poor souls. I'll go now. I've gotta go out and drop CDs
around the local dingy ratholes and drink some yellow beer. Sheryl and Katie
are in Kentucky visiting grandparents while I do this shit.

>(Of course they did "Strong Enough", and I hate anybody who covers
> The Whore.)

I think I missed something here. Huh?

Wishing like hell that I was a cross between Michael Hedges and Otis
Redding,
Dougie


Doug Boucher

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Mar 22, 2003, 7:23:08 PM3/22/03
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"Dave Wilcher" <dwil...@woh.rr.com> wrote

> > 8.) The Lonesome Death Of Ethel Q. Walrustitty
>
> Bwaahahahaha!

It was either that or Subterranean Virus-Sick Postman.

> > 13.) Paranoid (Finished With My Mailman 'Cause He Couldn't Help Mom
> > When She Died)
>
> I love you Dougie.

Aww, you're just saying that to get a piece of my sweet ass, you little
slut.

> > OK, mine aren't as believable as Bill's,
>
> But it was funnier by half.

Thanks! I'll be here all week! AMMK audiences are the best audiences in the
world! Tip yer waitress!

Dougie


Brian Bernardini

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Mar 22, 2003, 8:57:32 PM3/22/03
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In article <q57fa.107107$jP2.18...@twister.neo.rr.com>,
"Doug Boucher" <doodi...@poop.com> wrote:

> >(Of course they did "Strong Enough", and I hate anybody who covers
> > The Whore.)
>
> I think I missed something here. Huh?

That's my pet name for Sheryl Crow.

Chris Maxfield

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Mar 22, 2003, 9:25:45 PM3/22/03
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>In article <q57fa.107107$jP2.18...@twister.neo.rr.com>,
> "Doug Boucher" <doodi...@poop.com> wrote:
>
>> >(Of course they did "Strong Enough", and I hate anybody who covers
>> > The Whore.)

Brian opined:

>That's my pet name for Sheryl Crow.

>-B

Why would you want to call a perfectly nice woman like Sheryl Crow by a nasty
name like that?

"Put your head back; here comes the drill." Frank Zappa, R&E
Zapp...@aol.com a.k.a. Chris Maxfield


Brian Bernardini

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Mar 22, 2003, 9:28:18 PM3/22/03
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In article <20030322212545...@mb-ms.aol.com>,
zapp...@aol.com (Chris Maxfield) wrote:

> >In article <q57fa.107107$jP2.18...@twister.neo.rr.com>,
> > "Doug Boucher" <doodi...@poop.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >(Of course they did "Strong Enough", and I hate anybody who covers
> >> > The Whore.)
>
> Brian opined:
>
> >That's my pet name for Sheryl Crow.
>
> >-B
>
> Why would you want to call a perfectly nice woman like Sheryl Crow by a nasty
> name like that?

I hope you're kidding. If not, I'll dig up an article or two to show you
why.

Alan Tignanelli

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Mar 22, 2003, 10:13:01 PM3/22/03
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Fastbulb wrote:

Yeah...what 9 said.

Alan

Alan Tignanelli

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Mar 22, 2003, 10:17:54 PM3/22/03
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Alan Tignanelli wrote:

Then Bill wrote:

>No. Sorry.
>
>

Son of a bitch...this is what I get for not reading the From line.

And I was so proud of myself for not jumping on A Warm Gentle Wind...

Alan

Sam Rouse

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Mar 22, 2003, 9:50:07 PM3/22/03
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In article <bbernardini-471B...@host28.newsfeeds.com>,
Brian Bernardini <bbern...@comLOOKATTHATcast.net> wrote:

> In article <20030322212545...@mb-ms.aol.com>,
> zapp...@aol.com (Chris Maxfield) wrote:
>
> > >In article <q57fa.107107$jP2.18...@twister.neo.rr.com>,
> > > "Doug Boucher" <doodi...@poop.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> >(Of course they did "Strong Enough", and I hate anybody who covers
> > >> > The Whore.)
> >
> > Brian opined:
> >
> > >That's my pet name for Sheryl Crow.
> >
> > >-B
> >
> > Why would you want to call a perfectly nice woman like Sheryl Crow by a
> > nasty
> > name like that?
>
> I hope you're kidding. If not, I'll dig up an article or two to show you
> why.

"I wish I could be The Whore."
- Fez, "That 70s Show"

PS - Brian, did you find any use for those feathers, bells, and book of Indian
Lore?

--
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
- George Orwell, "1984"

Brian Bernardini

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Mar 22, 2003, 10:33:40 PM3/22/03
to
In article <samandor-38EE0D...@news.newsguy.com>,
Sam Rouse <sama...@newsguy.com> wrote:

> PS - Brian, did you find any use for those feathers, bells, and book of
> Indian
> Lore?


<wink wink>

Doug Boucher

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Mar 22, 2003, 10:55:13 PM3/22/03
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"Brian Bernardini" <bbern...@comLOOKATTHATcast.net> wrote

> > > >(Of course they did "Strong Enough", and I hate anybody who covers
> > > The Whore.)
> >
> > I think I missed something here. Huh?
>
> That's my pet name for Sheryl Crow.

Ah, OK.

Hey, I might have a gig! Tonight's the first night I went out looking (I
haven't played this solo thing in 2 and a half years) and went two places.
The first is four minutes from my house, a minute from Katie's daycare, and
they've got Guinness on tap and fucking AMAZING beer-battered pickles.
Seriously. I'm going to Hell, but I'm gonna fuckin' *enjoy* it while eating
this shit.

Anyway, they had a good groovin' blues-rock band playing, and I gave a CD to
the owner, who promised to give it a good listen. Then I went up to my next
stop, and that guy didn't even listen to the CD before telling me that April
11th is open. If he hates my CD, he'll call it off, but I'm looking at a gig
in two weeks (and two days before my birthday) and this is good. I'm gonna
make money again! Imagine that shit!

I don't know if Sheryl intended for Amazon to have my name on the package so
I'd see it and open it early, but I got my birthday present early today. The
Special Edition DVD for Blue Velvet. Now I can listen to Dennis Hopper rape
Isabella Rossilini in 5.1 sound. Well, if I had the equipment for it.
Anyway, today's been a good day. Can't wait for the family to get back home
tomorrow.

Dougie
NP Incubus - S.C.I.E.N.C.E. (This shit rocks like a monster
motherfuckbeast.)


Ron Spiegelhalter

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Mar 22, 2003, 11:22:34 PM3/22/03
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"Brian Bernardini" <bbern...@comLOOKATTHATcast.net> wrote...
> "David Steed" <david...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > "Brian Bernardini" <bbern...@comLOOKATTHATcast.net> wrote...

> >
> > > Todd Rundgren-Demos and Lost Albums (featuring the long lost Utopia
> > > album "Disco Jets")
> >
> > I was a bit disappointed with this (particularly with the high price it
cost
> > from Japan). The demos didn't seem too different and the lost album was
> > probably lost with good reason.
>
> Well, I bought it slightly used from somebody, so it didn't cost quite
> as much. I've always enjoyed "Disco Jets" ever since I got a crappy
> cassette copy years ago. But that sort of thing always amuses me.

I've been a Utopia fan for a long time, but even I realize that you have to
have a tolerance for a certain type of...how shall we say...cheese?...to dig
most of their stuff. I'd be interested to hear how this lost Utopia album
tests that tolerance. :-)

ron


Ron Spiegelhalter

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Mar 22, 2003, 11:24:05 PM3/22/03
to
"Dave Wilcher" <dwil...@woh.rr.com> wrote...

> David Steed wrote:
>
> >> Did I mention that I received my copy of the Roxy DVD today? It's
> >> awesome!
> >
> > Please tell me more. I've completely missed hearing anything about
> > this.
>
> Sorry David, not yet. It was a joke, part of the Bill-virus that's been
> spread around here. ;-)

Sorry about that, David. Didn't mean to get yer hopes up or anything. :-)

ron


Brian Bernardini

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Mar 22, 2003, 11:34:53 PM3/22/03
to
In article <eEafa.1644$TW2.1...@news1.news.adelphia.net>,
"Ron Spiegelhalter" <r...@mktrading.orgASM> wrote:

> "Brian Bernardini" <bbern...@comLOOKATTHATcast.net> wrote...
> > "David Steed" <david...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > > "Brian Bernardini" <bbern...@comLOOKATTHATcast.net> wrote...
> > >
> > > > Todd Rundgren-Demos and Lost Albums (featuring the long lost Utopia
> > > > album "Disco Jets")
> > >
> > > I was a bit disappointed with this (particularly with the high price it
> cost
> > > from Japan). The demos didn't seem too different and the lost album was
> > > probably lost with good reason.
> >
> > Well, I bought it slightly used from somebody, so it didn't cost quite
> > as much. I've always enjoyed "Disco Jets" ever since I got a crappy
> > cassette copy years ago. But that sort of thing always amuses me.
>
> I've been a Utopia fan for a long time, but even I realize that you have to
> have a tolerance for a certain type of...how shall we say...cheese?...to dig
> most of their stuff. I'd be interested to hear how this lost Utopia album
> tests that tolerance. :-)
>
> ron
>
>

What Utopia do you think is cheesy?

Sam Rouse

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Mar 23, 2003, 12:07:46 AM3/23/03
to
In article <bbernardini-FD00...@host28.newsfeeds.com>,
Brian Bernardini <bbern...@comLOOKATTHATcast.net> wrote:

> In article <eEafa.1644$TW2.1...@news1.news.adelphia.net>,
> "Ron Spiegelhalter" <r...@mktrading.orgASM> wrote:
>
> > "Brian Bernardini" <bbern...@comLOOKATTHATcast.net> wrote...
> > > "David Steed" <david...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > "Brian Bernardini" <bbern...@comLOOKATTHATcast.net> wrote...
> > > >
> > > > > Todd Rundgren-Demos and Lost Albums (featuring the long lost Utopia
> > > > > album "Disco Jets")
> > > >
> > > > I was a bit disappointed with this (particularly with the high price it
> > cost
> > > > from Japan). The demos didn't seem too different and the lost album was
> > > > probably lost with good reason.
> > >
> > > Well, I bought it slightly used from somebody, so it didn't cost quite
> > > as much. I've always enjoyed "Disco Jets" ever since I got a crappy
> > > cassette copy years ago. But that sort of thing always amuses me.
> >
> > I've been a Utopia fan for a long time, but even I realize that you have to
> > have a tolerance for a certain type of...how shall we say...cheese?...to
> > dig
> > most of their stuff. I'd be interested to hear how this lost Utopia album
> > tests that tolerance. :-)
> >
> > ron
> >
> >
>
> What Utopia do you think is cheesy?

The one we live in?

Ron Spiegelhalter

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Mar 23, 2003, 12:43:37 AM3/23/03
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"Brian Bernardini" <bbern...@comLOOKATTHATcast.net> wrote...

> "Ron Spiegelhalter" <r...@mktrading.orgASM> wrote:
>
> > I've been a Utopia fan for a long time, but even I realize that you have
to
> > have a tolerance for a certain type of...how shall we say...cheese?...to
dig
> > most of their stuff. I'd be interested to hear how this lost Utopia
album
> > tests that tolerance. :-)
>
> What Utopia do you think is cheesy?

Well...honestly...most of it. Don't get me wrong, I love that stuff; but it
does have a certain 80s kind of "we have no idea how corny this is" thing to
it. It's not across the board, but I'd say the majority of their catalog
contains a certain degree of fermented curd. And still I dig it.

ron


fearthesmeenusimmons

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Ouch. I went through the same thing last year. I'm keeping a good thought
out for you & yours, Joe.
ftss


mburgstad

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On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 05:34:44 GMT, "Doug Boucher" <doodi...@poop.com>
wrote:

>It's frightening how much country music I've listened to this week. The old
>shit. Because that's how I likes it.

You're not the only one who likes their country old...

>AC/DC - Back In Black, Highway To Hell.
>If you take this stuff seriously at all, you're a fucking freak, but it sure
>is fun rock and roll. I've been singing an acoustic version of Rock And Roll
>Ain't Noise Pollution this week. I do it an octave down because...well, if
>you don't know, you ain't paying attention. It hurts my throat to think
>about it. My acoustic version of Girls Got Rhythm would be cool too if I
>wouldn't keep laughing my ass off before I can finish it.

Check out What's next to the moon by Mark Kozelek. He's the singer of
the Red House Painters who made an entire album of acoustic AC/DC
songs. Apparently, sometimes people come up to him at shows, telling
him that he played some really good Leonard Cohen covers :-)

>Johnny Cash - all sorts of stuff this week, but I heard American IV: The Man
>Comes Around for the first time tonight and it fucked me up. Johnny Cash
>singing Nine Inch Nails? Depeche Mode? After hearing those two, the Sting
>cover seems predictable. It's a fairly amazing album. He's really sounding
>old, but he's also really sounding *right*. Damn how I love Johnny Cash.

Have you seen the video for 'Hurt'? It looks like his eulogy.
All the other American recordings are highly recommende to anyone.

>Gram Parsons - GP/Grievous Angel
>It's a fucking shame that this guy doens't get more mention, becuase to my
>ears, this is about as good as country music gets. He's supposedly one of
>the first country/rock people, but 90% of this is *country*, and it's
>absolutely gorgeous. You'd have to be dead not to be affected by some of
>these songs and how beautiful they are. Emmylou Harris on harmony, and my
>gawd that woman can sing. This stuff makes 90% of the shit I've heard in
>country music in the post-Garth world sound like mouse droppings. Not that
>this is hard to do, but buy it anyway. It'll kill ya.

That's my 3rd favorite album ever, after Revolver and Pet Sounds.
Their version of 'Love hurts' makes me cry every single time. I saw
Emmylou a few years back in Brussels. Apparently I was quite early
with tickets, because I had front row center. It was like having a
private show. After the show, she graciously signed and took pictures.
The guy who took the pictures was Phil Kaufman, the guy who burnt Gram
Parsons' body near Joshua Tree. Talking about legendary....

Marcel

>Dougie
>

mburgstad

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On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 22:29:55 GMT, "fearthesmeenusimmons"
<fearthesme...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Anyone else?
>ftss

Oh well, I'll give it a go.

In no particular order :

The Cardigans - Long gone before daylight.
It still has to sink in a bit, but it's a lot more acoustic and dark
than their previous albums. Too bad they stopped doing those insane
Black Sabbath covers...

Aphex Twin - 26 mixes for cash
This guy is way ahead of his time, electronic-wise. He's a very, very
sick little man. But I like it.

Dillinger Escape Plan & Mike Patton - Irony is a dead scene
I bought this EP because it had a cover of Come to daddy by Aphex
Twin. I scared the bejeesus out of me when i put this on my
headphones.

Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity
Saw these guys last year supporting System of a down. Think Painkiller
without the insane saxplaying. Me and my two friends were probably the
only people who thought they were good. The rest of the audience
consisted mostly of 14-16-year-old nu-metal fans. They didn't get it.

Henry Rollins - Lots of talking stuff
Just bought Talk is cheap vol.1 and 2 from Hank's website. They're
hilarious! If you ever get a chance to see a talking show, please go.
This guy talks for 2 to 3 hours straight and he tells the funniest
stories. Some highlights are 'When I'm president' and the story about
seeing Kiss live.

And the highlight of my week : John Coltrane - A love supreme (deluxe
edition)
How is it possible that I survived all these years without this album?
The live version blew me away.

Marcel

David Steed

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"Dave Wilcher" <dwil...@woh.rr.com> wrote in message
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> David Steed wrote:
>
> >> Did I mention that I received my copy of the Roxy DVD today? It's
> >> awesome!
> >
> > Please tell me more. I've completely missed hearing anything about
> > this.
>
> Sorry David, not yet. It was a joke, part of the Bill-virus that's been
> spread around here. ;-)
>
> dave
> --

Doh. :-)

David


David Steed

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"Dave Wilcher" <dwil...@woh.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry David, not yet. It was a joke, part of the Bill-virus that's been


> spread around here. ;-)
>
> dave
> --

The initial post was just too convincing. Just the kind of pretentious
twaddle McCartney is capable of these days.

I didn't even catch on after I'd looked on affz and found nothing by "Bill"
there.

Better do my punishment:

I must not believe everything I read on the internet.
I must not believe everything I read on the internet.
I must not believe everything I read on the internet.
I must not believe everything I read on the internet.
I must not believe everything I read on the internet.
I must not believe everything I read on the internet.
I must not believe everything I read on the internet.
I must not believe everything I read on the internet.
I must not believe everything I read on the internet.
I must not believe everything I read on the internet.

David


David Steed

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"fearthesmeenusimmons" <fearthesme...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Dougie:
> > Aimee Mann - Lost In Space
> > Jeezus, this is absolutely beautfiul, absolutely addictive. I'm in awe.
>
> Yay! It's not just me!


No. It's me as well. Your last post about this made me dig the CD out again
and I've been playing it a hell of a lot too. My soon to be 10 year old son
heard it in the car and asked for a copy. He's playing it daily too.

David


David Steed

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"Doug Boucher" <doodi...@poop.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Dwight Yoakam - dwightyoakamacoustic.net
> Dwight scares me sometimes, because he's been doing too much overproduced
> watered-down shit in recent years, but this album is just him and his
guitar
> and reminds me of why I liked him before, back when he was doing stuff
with
> more depth and character. And you gotta love a guy who will write a song
> with an opening line like "It won't hurt when I fall down from this
> barstool." I think you know what the rest of the song is about already.
>

It never ceases to amaze me how much common ground we all have apart from
MK. I have Dwight's first three CDs and then went off him for the reasons
you mention. And lines like "It won't hurt when I fall down from this
barstool." are exactly why I like him. Sounds like I'll have to get this new
one.


> Gram Parsons - GP/Grievous Angel
> It's a fucking shame that this guy doens't get more mention, becuase to my
> ears, this is about as good as country music gets. He's supposedly one of
> the first country/rock people, but 90% of this is *country*, and it's
> absolutely gorgeous. You'd have to be dead not to be affected by some of
> these songs and how beautiful they are. Emmylou Harris on harmony, and my
> gawd that woman can sing. This stuff makes 90% of the shit I've heard in
> country music in the post-Garth world sound like mouse droppings. Not that
> this is hard to do, but buy it anyway. It'll kill ya.

Exactly what you said. The first two Flying Burrito Brothers LPs are on a
single disc and are also excellent. If you haven't got any I urge you to
check out Chris Hillman's solo stuff as well.


> Crowded House - 1st
> I wanna play bass for Neil Finn. Hell, I'll clean his toilets. Just let me
> near him long enough to absorb some of whatever it is that makes him write
> the stuff that sticks in my brain like that.
>
He's great too. I'm very partial to the 4th with Distant Sun possibly my
favourite.
Have you ever heard of The Mutton Birds? A New Zealand group as well. It's
lazy to categorise them with Crowded House but they produce gorgeous
addictive melodic songs too. Try the album Envy of Angels if you fabcy
giving them a try.

David


Brian Bernardini

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In article <dQbfa.1666$TW2.1...@news1.news.adelphia.net>,
"Ron Spiegelhalter" <r...@mktrading.orgASM> wrote:

Okay, I'll give you that. But listening to some live recordings from the
"cheese" period, they still kicked the living crap out of almost every
band out there at the time.

Dammit. Now I have to dig out the studio albums. Bastard.

Ron Spiegelhalter

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"Brian Bernardini" <bbern...@comLOOKATTHATcast.net> wrote...
> "Ron Spiegelhalter" <r...@mktrading.orgASM> wrote:
> > "Brian Bernardini" <bbern...@comLOOKATTHATcast.net> wrote...

> > >
> > > What Utopia do you think is cheesy?
> >
> > Well...honestly...most of it. Don't get me wrong, I love that stuff;
but it
> > does have a certain 80s kind of "we have no idea how corny this is"
thing to
> > it. It's not across the board, but I'd say the majority of their
catalog
> > contains a certain degree of fermented curd. And still I dig it.
>
> Okay, I'll give you that. But listening to some live recordings from the
> "cheese" period, they still kicked the living crap out of almost every
> band out there at the time.

No question about that. Two of the three laserdiscs I own are Utopia
concert videos, and they're both pretty fun. I don't have the one I really
want, unfortunately, which I think was from the "Utopia" tour. I used to
have it on VHS; they're all wearing the suits and they play a lot of that
album. Good video, wish I still owned it. :-(

> Dammit. Now I have to dig out the studio albums. Bastard.

What a tradegy. I think I'll join you! :-)

I notice that Furthur is now listing Kasim Sultan on the band list. Haven't
found any shows by him yet.

ron


Ron Spiegelhalter

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"David Steed" <david...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote...
> "Doug Boucher" <doodi...@poop.com> wrote...

>
> > Dwight Yoakam - dwightyoakamacoustic.net
> > Dwight scares me sometimes, because he's been doing too much
overproduced
> > watered-down shit in recent years, but this album is just him and his
> guitar
> > and reminds me of why I liked him before, back when he was doing stuff
> with
> > more depth and character. And you gotta love a guy who will write a song
> > with an opening line like "It won't hurt when I fall down from this
> > barstool." I think you know what the rest of the song is about already.
>
> It never ceases to amaze me how much common ground we all have apart from
> MK. I have Dwight's first three CDs and then went off him for the reasons
> you mention. And lines like "It won't hurt when I fall down from this
> barstool." are exactly why I like him. Sounds like I'll have to get this
new
> one.

And he was really great in "Sling Blade." I'm not a huge country music fan,
mostly because the genre's been so horribly perverted in the past few
decades, but if someone's doing it right, I'm always willing to listen. I
only ever heard him on SNL and the like, never heard an album, but he struck
me as very possibly being one of the guys who was doing it right. I'm
looking forward to hearing a few samples!

ron


Brian Bernardini

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In article <4Kjfa.1720$TW2.1...@news1.news.adelphia.net>,
"Ron Spiegelhalter" <r...@mktrading.orgASM> wrote:

> No question about that. Two of the three laserdiscs I own are Utopia
> concert videos, and they're both pretty fun. I don't have the one I really
> want, unfortunately, which I think was from the "Utopia" tour. I used to
> have it on VHS; they're all wearing the suits and they play a lot of that
> album. Good video, wish I still owned it. :-(

Well, this link has new, sealed copies for $40:

http://www.trbazaar.com/utopiavideos.htm

I don't know if it has Macrovision on it or not, but I have a copy... :)
I also have a CD I made of just the video soundtrack, and another one
somebody put together from a mint video and a soundboard tape (there
were a few songs cut out of the video) to make up the complete show.

Doug Boucher

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"Ellen Brenner" <her...@mizducky.com> wrote

> I had a DiMeola record back in the 70s which I liked alright (Elegant
> Gypsy), and even went to see him in concert when he was touring behind
that
> album, but haven't been motivated to check him out since then.

I'm a couple albums behind now, but in some ways, I prefer the music he's
done since the 80s. It's more toned down, but there's more depth to it in my
opinion, though perhaps he doesn't burn enough for some people, which is
understandable. Those early shred-fest albums are LOTS of fun. Elegant Gypsy
is my favorite from when he really burned, Casino is really hot too. The
thing about the newer albums is that some of it is over-polished, but when I
saw him live twice in the 90s (behind the excellent Kiss My Axe, and behind
Orange And Blue, which didn't grab me as much on record, but was GREAT
live - he did the whole album) he was really fabulous. It irritated me that
the only time the crowd really responded was when he played some inhumanly
fast lick, because that's not even 10% of what he's about these days. For
all his reputation as a shredder, the guy is VERY tasteful live, and in a
way that's not as cloying as the albums can sometimes be. There's more
balance between the tasty stuff and the shredding, (and let me tell you, the
guy can fucking shred) and I think he takes a lot of care in his writing and
arranging, which really comes off live.

I'd definitely recommend Kiss My Axe and Tirami Su as two of his best albums
from the past 20 years, and I know *I* really want to see him live again. I
love McLaughlin a lot, but DiMeola is my man in that particular musical
universe.

Dougie


David Steed

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"Ron Spiegelhalter" <r...@mktrading.orgASM> wrote in message
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And to make it worse, to avoid showing my ignorance I'd spent 10 minutes
searching for Zappa DVDs at various online stores like Amazon and only
posted the question when I couldn't find anything. And I STILL didn't catch
on. I clearly trust you all far too much. :-)

David


A.C.

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"Doug Boucher" <doodi...@poop.com> wrote in message
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> "Ellen Brenner" <her...@mizducky.com> wrote
>
> > I had a DiMeola record back in the 70s which I liked alright (Elegant
> > Gypsy), and even went to see him in concert when he was touring behind
> that
> > album, but haven't been motivated to check him out since then.
>
>... The

> thing about the newer albums is that some of it is over-polished, but when I
> saw him live twice in the 90s (behind the excellent Kiss My Axe, and behind
> Orange And Blue, which didn't grab me as much on record, but was GREAT
> live - he did the whole album) he was really fabulous.
>...

> I'd definitely recommend Kiss My Axe and Tirami Su as two of his best albums
> from the past 20 years, and I know *I* really want to see him live again. I
> love McLaughlin a lot, but DiMeola is my man in that particular musical
> universe.
>

The three DiMeola,McLaughlin and DeLucia albums (Guitar Trio, Friday Night in San
Francisco and Passion Grace & Fire) are definitely on my desert island disc list. I
knew nothing of DiMeola before I got those albums (I bought them after seeing
McGlaughlin at the Montreal Jazz Festival in '97). I got Orange and Blue after that
and listening it, to me, sounded like it was imitation Metheny. It's a good album but
he sounds like he's trying to be someone else. I've only listened to Elegant Gypsy
once or twice. I'll have to pull that one out again.

Alenda


Dave Wilcher

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David Steed wrote:
>>
> And to make it worse, to avoid showing my ignorance I'd spent 10
> minutes searching for Zappa DVDs at various online stores like Amazon
> and only posted the question when I couldn't find anything. And I
> STILL didn't catch on. I clearly trust you all far too much. :-)

You fucked up. You trusted us.

Bluto
--
The best cure for the ills of democracy is more democracy. - Ed Abbey


snow lizard

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Mar 23, 2003, 4:26:42 PM3/23/03
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Thanks everybody, for all the electronic kindness regarding my dad.

The past week has been difficult, and I'm really going to miss the old
fart, but in a way I'm glad he's not suffering anymore. I think I've
dealt with this thing to the point where I can go back to work next
week, and try to get back to what is "normal", anyway.

Thanks again, people.


sl

snow lizard

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Doug Boucher wrote:

Elegant Gypsy is a blast to listen to, but yeah, it seems like he's
wanted to move on from those days for the past 20 years or so. I saw
him live while he was touring Tirami Su around 15 or 16 years ago and
it was a great show despite a plethora of rowdy and enthusiastic
fanatics screaming "RACE WITH THE DEVIL!" all night.

He didn't play any Elegant Gypsy material, but the show still kicked
ass.


sl

Jan Tore Skråmestø

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Mar 23, 2003, 5:25:58 PM3/23/03
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Sigh...while all the other norwegians are in Tuurku...

MK - Boil that dust speck
Bela Fleck - Flight of the cosmic hippo
Peter Gabriel - 3
Jah Wobble - Betrayal
Steve Vai - Flex-able Leftovers
Medeski, Martin and Wood - Uninvisible
Krøyt - One heart is to small
Parker/Gillespie - Bird & Diz
Marc Ribot - Saints
And a lot of jazz. I`ve been writing the program for the upcomming Nattjazz
festival (program still not official so I can`t tell you who) and felt that
I had to listen to at least some of the artists before writing about them.

JanT


Ron Spiegelhalter

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"Brian Bernardini" <bbern...@comLOOKATTHATcast.net> wrote...
> "Ron Spiegelhalter" <r...@mktrading.orgASM> wrote:
>
> > I don't have the one I really
> > want, unfortunately, which I think was from the "Utopia" tour. I used
to
> > have it on VHS; they're all wearing the suits and they play a lot of
that
> > album. Good video, wish I still owned it. :-(
>
> Well, this link has new, sealed copies for $40:
>
> http://www.trbazaar.com/utopiavideos.htm

Yeah, that's the one; unfortunately it's VHS only. I don't even own a
working VCR at this point, and I don't imagine I'll be picking one up any
time soon. The CD sounds like an interesting thing, but I've been such a
lame tape trader lately that I dare not impose my lameness on anyone right
now. Too much wedding/house malarkey going on to think about burning CDs,
much less mailing them promptly. :-(

ron


Hagrinas Mivali

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Mar 23, 2003, 11:37:17 PM3/23/03
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"Brian Bernardini" <bbern...@comLOOKATTHATcast.net> wrote in message
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> In article <20030322212545...@mb-ms.aol.com>,
> zapp...@aol.com (Chris Maxfield) wrote:
>
> > >In article <q57fa.107107$jP2.18...@twister.neo.rr.com>,

> > > "Doug Boucher" <doodi...@poop.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> >(Of course they did "Strong Enough", and I hate anybody who covers
> > >> > The Whore.)
> >
> > Brian opined:

> >
> > >That's my pet name for Sheryl Crow.
> >
> > >-B
> >
> > Why would you want to call a perfectly nice woman like Sheryl Crow by a
nasty
> > name like that?
>
> I hope you're kidding. If not, I'll dig up an article or two to show you
> why.
>

I have no idea either. If there is a legitimate reason for calling somebody
a whore, it's usually because the person is very promiscuous.

I would like to take this opportunity to point out that Frank Zappa was an
incredible whore. The only reason that people don't tend to call him that
is that most people are sexist and think it's somehow okay for a man to do
it, even if he's married.

Michael J. Ventura

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"A.C." <guacamole...@earthlinkTHIS.net> wrote in message
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> The three DiMeola,McLaughlin and DeLucia albums (Guitar Trio, Friday Night
in San
> Francisco and Passion Grace & Fire) are definitely on my desert island
disc list.

Agreed. Also highly recommended is the work he did with Stanley Clarke and
Jean-Luc Ponty, "The Rite of Strings," although I think DiMeola loses some
points for resorting to MIDI patches during his solos on what is otherwise a
very fine all-acoustic disc.

mike v
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Doug Boucher

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Mar 24, 2003, 9:19:55 AM3/24/03
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"A.C." <guacamole...@earthlinkTHIS.net> wrote

> I got Orange and Blue after that
> and listening it, to me, sounded like it was imitation Metheny. It's a
good album but
> he sounds like he's trying to be someone else.

Yeah, I heard that album right before he opened the tour behind it and
there's a couple tracks in particular that are like that. But when I saw him
live and he did the whole album (and nothing else except for Song To The
Pharoah Kings as the encore) he sold me on it. Well, on the live show. I
still don't listen to the album much. :) But it was a *fabulous* concert,
and even sounded excellent. (This at The Vogue in Indianapolis, which
generally isn't the first place I think of when the phrase "great sounding
venue" comes up in conversation.) Definitely see him live, it's
breathtaking.

Dougie
NP Al DiMeola - Tirami Su (I love when you guys make me pull out an album.)
:)


Doug Boucher

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Mar 24, 2003, 9:25:44 AM3/24/03
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"David Steed" <david...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote

> Exactly what you said. The first two Flying Burrito Brothers LPs are on a
> single disc and are also excellent.

I've got the double CD Hot Burritos compilation and it's great. The first
album seems to be far and away the best, but I like some of the other stuff
too.

> If you haven't got any I urge you to
> check out Chris Hillman's solo stuff as well.

I haven't heard any. Any albums in particular to check out? I heard one of
the Souther-Hillman-Furay albums years ago. It didn't do anything for me at
the time, but I might like it now.

> Have you ever heard of The Mutton Birds? A New Zealand group as well. It's
> lazy to categorise them with Crowded House but they produce gorgeous
> addictive melodic songs too. Try the album Envy of Angels if you fabcy
> giving them a try.

Sounds interesting, I don't think I've heard them yet.

Dougie
NP Al DiMeola - Tirami Su (My cassette copy of this is starting to turn to
shit. Dammit! I need to buy the CD!)


Doug Boucher

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Mar 24, 2003, 9:39:35 AM3/24/03
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"Ron Spiegelhalter" <r...@mktrading.orgASM> wrote

(Dwight Yoakam)


> And he was really great in "Sling Blade." I'm not a huge country music
fan,
> mostly because the genre's been so horribly perverted in the past few
> decades, but if someone's doing it right, I'm always willing to listen. I
> only ever heard him on SNL and the like, never heard an album, but he
struck
> me as very possibly being one of the guys who was doing it right. I'm
> looking forward to hearing a few samples!

Definitely check out his first albums. I like Guitar & Cadillacs a lot, and
the one I mentioned before (dwightyoakamacoustic.net) is really neat too for
the most part. His voice is an acquired taste, he gets REALLY ultra-twangy,
but I got used to it pretty quick, myself. The songs are so damn good, and
his voice is appropriate to the material, so I can dig it.

"Horribly perverted" is a good way of putting it. Ultimately, country has
suffered the same fate as rock & roll and the blues (and I refuse to see
much difference in the three, they're all based in the same things) by being
eaten up by wannabes and lame-ass slugs. Gee Garth, you get that cowboy hat
at K-Mart? I see there's a blue-light special, you soulless Satan-sucking
swine. I've had a hard time even wanting to bother with anything that's
happened in country music since Garth Brooks crawled out from the slime and
reared his deformed snake-like skull of death. (Gee, that wasn't a little
too dramatic, was it? Actually, I'm not sure it was.) But I have forced
myself to turn on country radio at least once a year for the last decade,
and you might actually hear something good shoved into the middle of an hour
of pre-fabricated poo. Some people claim that country has suddenly acquired
some decent songwriting skills in the past couple years, so maybe I'll turn
the radio on again and try it out. But I ain't expecting much. Fuck it
anyway, I'll go put on a Hank Snow record. I bet something that pure will
make Faith Hill melt into a puddle of shit just like the Wicked Witch Of The
Pseudo-South.

Dougie


David Steed

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"Doug Boucher" <doodi...@poop.com> wrote in message
news:IzEfa.119242$jP2.20...@twister.neo.rr.com...

> > If you haven't got any I urge you to
> > check out Chris Hillman's solo stuff as well.
>
> I haven't heard any. Any albums in particular to check out? I heard one of
> the Souther-Hillman-Furay albums years ago. It didn't do anything for me
at
> the time, but I might like it now.
>

The SHF albums are the worst place to start. Chris's tracks are good but the
rest is bland.

The first two solo albums Slippin Away and Clear Sailin are good. Slippin
Away is better. This was his first after Manassas and it shows. There is a
Stills song on there that didn't make the Manassas albums.

Desert Rose is excellent . Pure country. If you like Dwight Yoakam's early
stuff you'd like this.

Then there the five Desert Rose Band albums. These become progressively more
commercial and less country, but there's excellent material on the first two
or three.

Since then he's done some fairly low key albums with Herb Pederson and Larry
and Tony Rice. These are much more "authentic" country and bluegrass albums
and are very nicely produced.

His last solo album "Like A Hurricane" is great and combines most of what
he's best at. Elements of Manassas, Byrds, Burritos are all there. I saw him
on the tour over here to promote this. He was very good. Someone called out
"Do you play any Neil young songs?" Chris replied "No, he doesn't play mine"
which I thought was great.

David


kErrYKOmpOsT

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Mar 24, 2003, 5:24:56 PM3/24/03
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Snow Lizard wrote:

> At the moment, absolutely nothing. My father died about 48 hours ago,
> so it kind of fucks up the mood.

Please accept my deepest condolences in this time of loss. Your father
is no longer suffering, of that I'm fairly certain. Hang in there.....

My new slogan: "America: Supporting Tomorrow's Terrorists, Today."

kErrY kOMpOsT

www.mp3.com/kompost

NP: The sweet sound of silence.

Brian Bernardini

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Mar 24, 2003, 7:08:18 PM3/24/03
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Of course, the website with the article in question is now not working.
CONSPIRACY!!!

Anyway, Kevin Gilbert gave Sheryl Crow a big helping hand by having her
as the second keyboardist/backing vocalist for the live incarnation of
Toy Matinee. Then he and all his friends pretty much wrote all of her
"Tuesday Night Music Club" album. Then she basically told them all to
fuck off, got a new band, and went out on TV claiming at least once that
she wrote the songs. (The most famous being an appearance on Leno, where
she said "Leaving Las Vegas" was autobiographical. Two problems with
that. One, she didn't write it. Two, it's based on a book by somebody
else.)

Now, I won't deny that Kevin Gilbert probably had some serious mental
problems before his death. But I suspect the way he was treated by
Sheryl Crow didn't help matters.

I kind of equate it to the Bill Hicks line about John Lennon being dead,
but Barry Manilow continuing to make records. Even awful Kevin Gilbert
songs are better than anything Sheryl Crow put out without Kev's input.

See Kevin's "Leaving Miss Broadway" for a bit of an explanation from the
man himself.

Nancy Ann S. Lerch

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Mar 24, 2003, 10:11:32 PM3/24/03
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> You fucked up. You trusted us.
>
> Bluto

My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.

Point of parliamentary procedure,
nsl


Dave Wilcher

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Mar 24, 2003, 10:30:22 PM3/24/03
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*cough* blow job! *cough*

dave

Ron Spiegelhalter

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Mar 24, 2003, 11:50:44 PM3/24/03
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"Dave Wilcher" <dwil...@woh.rr.com> wrote...

> Nancy Ann S. Lerch wrote:
> >> You fucked up. You trusted us.
> >>
> >> Bluto
> >
> > My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.
> >
> > Point of parliamentary procedure,
>
> *cough* blow job! *cough*

Howard Johnson is right!

oh wait, that's not right,
ron


Nancy Ann S. Lerch

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Mar 25, 2003, 12:05:17 AM3/25/03
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> Howard Johnson is right!
>
> oh wait, that's not right,
> ron

You owe me a new monitor.

Candygram for Mongo,
nsl


Tom Yost

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Mar 25, 2003, 4:58:45 PM3/25/03
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:43:37 GMT, "Ron Spiegelhalter"
<r...@mktrading.orgASM> wrote:

>"Brian Bernardini" <bbern...@comLOOKATTHATcast.net> wrote...
>> "Ron Spiegelhalter" <r...@mktrading.orgASM> wrote:
>>

>> > I've been a Utopia fan for a long time, but even I realize that you have
>to
>> > have a tolerance for a certain type of...how shall we say...cheese?...to
>dig
>> > most of their stuff. I'd be interested to hear how this lost Utopia
>album
>> > tests that tolerance. :-)
>>

>> What Utopia do you think is cheesy?
>
>Well...honestly...most of it. Don't get me wrong, I love that stuff; but it
>does have a certain 80s kind of "we have no idea how corny this is" thing to
>it. It's not across the board, but I'd say the majority of their catalog
>contains a certain degree of fermented curd. And still I dig it.
>

>ron
>

You misspelled "turd."

Tom

Tom Yost

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Mar 25, 2003, 5:03:14 PM3/25/03
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 05:34:44 GMT, "Doug Boucher" <doodi...@poop.com>
wrote:


>
>Dwight Yoakam - dwightyoakamacoustic.net
>Dwight scares me sometimes, because he's been doing too much overproduced
>watered-down shit in recent years, but this album is just him and his guitar
>and reminds me of why I liked him before, back when he was doing stuff with
>more depth and character. And you gotta love a guy who will write a song
>with an opening line like "It won't hurt when I fall down from this
>barstool." I think you know what the rest of the song is about already.
>

"What you gonna do with that lawnmower blade Carl?"

Tom

Tom Yost

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Mar 25, 2003, 5:40:03 PM3/25/03
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 03:55:13 GMT, "Doug Boucher" <doodi...@poop.com>
wrote:


>they've got Guinness on tap and fucking AMAZING beer-battered pickles.
>

Beer battered pickles? WTF?

Tom

Tom Yost

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Mar 25, 2003, 5:42:25 PM3/25/03
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 20:01:20 -0500, Brian Bernardini
<bbern...@comLOOKATTHATcast.net> wrote:

>Let's see...
>
>Andy West-Rama 1
>Band From Utopia-Toad's Place 11/6/95
>Bill Hicks-Chicago '91
>Blood, Sweat and Tears-What Goes Up (Disc One)
>Bruce Hornsby/Bela Fleck-8/21/99
>
>- These guys are AMAZING together. It's just the two of them, and they
>play like one four-armed being. Actually, they sound like more arms than
>that.
>
>Dogbowl-Fantasic Carburetor Man
>Dogbowl-Tit!
>Dream Theater-When Dream And Day Unite
>Dweezil Zappa-What The Hell Was I Thinking
>
>- No, not THAT one. But a collection of TV, etc. appearances
>
>Elvis Costello-Angry Young Sod
>Elvis Costello-This Year's Model
>Erasure-Pop!
>Faith Hill/Tim McGraw-10/8/00
>
>- The bits I've listened to sound like the recorder was stuffed up
>somebody's ass.
>
>Firefall-4/18/79
>FZ-1/28/77
>FZ-4/19/88 (is there a version of this with a complete "Cruisin' For
>Burgers"?)
>FZ-10/20/77
>FZ-10/31/78
>FZ-Stage 2
>Genesis-11/29/81
>
>- A lot of "Three Sides Live" was taken from this show, and
>understandably so. It rocks. This is the Westwood One vinyl, so it's not
>complete, but it has a great Sprite commerial that totally rips off Toto.
>
>Gentle Giant-Free Hand
>Giraffe-Giraffe
>John Oswald/Grateful Dead-Grayfolded
>Illegal Art (collection of tracks from illegal-art.org)
>John Cage-The 25-Year Retrospective Concert
>Kaviar-The Kaviar Sessions
>KG-Shaming Of The True
>King Crimson-Collector's Club 21
>King Crimson-The Power To Believe
>Laura Nyro-Eli And The Thirteenth Confession
>
>- So THAT'S where Rundgren got it!
>
>Les Claypool-"Spur Of The Moment" (I forget the date)
>Martina McBride-Live At The Fox Theater
>MK-WS and WSA
>Nazz-Nazz III
>Negativland-Deathsentences...
>P-Funk-Howard Theater 11/1/78
>McCartney-Wingspan
>Phil Collins-Dance Into The Light
>Rick Wakeman-Live premiere of "Return To The Centre Of The Earth"
>The Samples-9/13/01
>The Samples-Anthology In Motion
>The Saw Doctors-Villains?
>Sean Kelly-Light House Rocket
>Take 6-Live
>Teenage Fanclub-Songs From Northern Britain
>Tha Alkaholiks-Coast II Coast
>Tha Alkaholiks-Likwidation
>Tony Levin-Waters Of Eden
>Toy Matinee-Toy Matinee
>Trey Anastasio-Trey Anastasio
>
>Some other things I've recently listened to/watched:
>
>Peter Gabriel-Ovo
>Todd Rundgren-Demos and Lost Albums (featuring the long lost Utopia
>album "Disco Jets")
>Spinal Tap-LA and San Fran shows from the '01 tour (one is incomplete,
>and the other has some flaws, but the entire Folksmen set!)
>Spock's Beard-The Making of V (this album is just perfect)
>An Evening With Kevin Smith
>Simpsons-Season 2
>South Park-Season 1 Commentary (not too late to get in on my eBay
>auction!)
>
>-B
>

Oh my... you have a very large... uh... ahem, er CD carrying device!

Tom

Chris Maxfield

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Mar 25, 2003, 8:01:55 PM3/25/03
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>Beer battered pickles? WTF?
>
>
>
>Tom

Exactly what it sounds like! Try to imagine the taste...biting through the
"golden brown delicious" crust, relishing the savory blast of hot spicy dill
flavor!

I've never had them by the way, but I've seen 'em...

There are places batter-frying Twinkies and Mars Bars as well.

"Put your head back; here comes the drill." Frank Zappa, R&E
Zapp...@aol.com a.k.a. Chris Maxfield


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