SD-20 vs. SC-8820
bebopper
It appears the SC-8820 has been discontinued by Roland. I
have an SD-20, but the SC-8820 seems to have a lot more sounds I might
like. I play a lot of Jazz, and would easily pay another $100.00 for
the Jazz scat alone.
Any thoughts ??
TIA
- bebbopper
JB Seattle
JB
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John Arkensaw
no plans of stopping! In fact, I am probably going to hunt down more
sound canvas units.
How do the sounds (I am particularly interested in orchestral sounds)
of these new Edirol units compare the SCs?
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JB Seattle
sounds.
JB
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bebopper
discontinued in favor of the SD-20 which is really just a continuation
of the Sound Canvas line ...
On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 15:44:35 GMT, "JB Seattle" <shno...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
JB Seattle
maps, that was the major advantage of the SC series.
The 8850 and the XV mods have the four voice patches.
I have an 8820, the big improvement was in guitar sounds and horn
sounds--and some drum kits. Plus you get GM2, which can be really helpful
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JB Seattle
JB
"˘EShan u_u" <pks...@sinaman.com> wrote in message
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> > >but the SC-8820 seems to have a lot more sounds
>
> but I can tell you most of them are unusable,dull,lack of dynamic &
f@#king same
> eg. the sc55/88 drum kits(contain in the sc8820),they are weak & 80's
like,you will never use them,
> also the new sc8820/8850 standard1 drum kit,the snares & BDs are
absolutely QUIET & THIN
> they are even worse than the sc88pro standard1 drum kit,crap
> and for example,try: "strings1" &"strings2" u can't tell the difference
between them!
> but both of them are suck,of course..
> sc & yamaha mu series are only suitable for game music & GM midis on the
net
>
> for the same price,you should take a look at the jv1010 (it comes with
a"session"board that sounds good)
> or pay a little more for a XV2020(64voices only...thats not enough for a
XV) or SD80(very nice acoustic sound!)
> you may noticed that the sounds in SD80/90 were taken from roland
SRX-03,XV series & RD700(the piano sound)
> someone just said SD80 sounds better than a XV without expansion card
> SD20 has no mfx effects(reverb & chorus only) & only 64 voices,I don't
suggest you buy this
>
> yamaha's flagship model,"motif rack" it is also a good choice (I know it's
expendsive..)
>
> if you got a sblive or audigy,you may try my soundfont too:
> http://www.geocities.co.jp/CollegeLife-Library/5084/index.html
>
bebopper
use an AC adapter ?? I bought the SD-20 so I can go "unplugged" wit a
WX-7 and laptop (and Fender Amp Can) ...
Can the 8820 power a MIDI controller via USB whil unplugged ??
Thanks,
bebopper
On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 16:03:49 GMT, "JB Seattle" <shno...@hotmail.com>
JB Seattle
has a separate midi out which I use to send midi data to a Vocalizer but he
Vocalizer needs its own power source.news:sc2ogvode1ulsgli4...@4ax.com...
bebopper
module, but once you stuck an instrument (like a controller) in the
MIDI IN you would need to go to the AC Wallwart ....
On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 23:51:31 GMT, "JB Seattle" <shno...@hotmail.com>
JB Seattle
own sound and the 8820 as the backer.
I always use the wallwart anyway but it will play off USB power but Windows
is so screwy and the USB port is limited anyway--so I just wallwart it.news:uf61hvodjfnl51lot...@4ax.com...
Jeffery S. Jones
wrote:
>I read a spec sheet that said it could run off a USB as a sound
>module, but once you stuck an instrument (like a controller) in the
>MIDI IN you would need to go to the AC Wallwart ....
That is reasonable, the power requirement may exceed the per-port
limit of the USB port. Overload it, and all USB devices which require
power may quit working.
In a pure USB power situation, though, you can use a laptop plus a
USB keyboard, and need no wallwarts for either module or keyboard.
The SC8820 isn't really designed to run from the front panel, so
you'll probably want a PC in the loop somewhere.
For that matter, just using another MIDI in device would solve that
problem, if your controller isn't USB. It means another box, but I'm
sure you can get by off just laptop power, with the right laptop.
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bebopper
laptop only has one USB input, so I need a hub on top of it.
My concept is to minimize the number of boxes, so if I can
attach the module to the laptop and can amp, and the controller to the
module, I could play literally anywhere without AC.
A pretty cool concept with Band-in - Box. I could busk in
parks or subways withpout "stealing" city power.
I think these modules SC8820 and SD-20 BOTH suffer from not
having a simple knob on front to select patches (like the old Sound
Canvas.) They are just about useless without a laptop, when they
could be used as a nice jamming module with just a controller and an
amp.
- bebopper
JB Seattle
severely limit your laptop battery time.
The 8820 and SD20 were designed by Roland specifically not to use an LCD
faceplate and controls that you find on more expensive models like the 8820
and SD80.
You have much more control over the mod with a computer than with the
cumbersome LCD screens.news:vqj2hvojn1o7njtok...@4ax.com...
bebopper
But if you want to use the box in performance, it means bringing a
$2,500 laptop along to change patches on a $300.00 box. A simple
patch knob would have made the difference between this being a desk
box and a stage box. I suspect they are protecting their more upscale
performance boxed by deliberately crippling these.
Then again, maybe theres not much demand for "unplugged" MIDI,
which is too bad, because I hear a wireless standard is about to be
ratified....
- bebopper
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:06:34 GMT, "JB Seattle" <shno...@hotmail.com>
Jeffery S. Jones
wrote:
>Extra batteries are (relatively) cheap ...
>
> But if you want to use the box in performance, it means bringing a
>$2,500 laptop along to change patches on a $300.00 box. A simple
>patch knob would have made the difference between this being a desk
>box and a stage box. I suspect they are protecting their more upscale
>performance boxed by deliberately crippling these.
I think it is more that the front panel adds cost, and these modules
are intended to be used by PC users primarily. Since you're going to
have a PC (USB port support goes along with that), no front panel is
needed.
> Then again, maybe theres not much demand for "unplugged" MIDI,
>which is too bad, because I hear a wireless standard is about to be
>ratified....
There are some decent laptops under $1000 now.
Also, any wallwart could be replaced with batteries.
--
bebopper
- bebopper
Jeffery S. Jones
wrote:
> How is that accomplished ????
>
Search for battery pack units. All you need is one which matches
the voltage and power requirement of the unit, and an appropriate
connector on it. I have no quick links, but this is fairly standard
portable power gear.
>On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:16:56 -0500, Jeffery S. Jones
><jef...@execpc.com> wrote:
>
>> Also, any wallwart could be replaced with batteries.
>>
>
--
Daniel L Newhouse
was meant to sound more like a Virtual sound Canvas. Kind of modern.