WHO IS TRUELY THE "BIGGEST SELLING" SOLO ARTIST?
Darth Zane
Thriller alone has sold about 50 million. Because of this, is it true?
Garth Brooks seems to sell quite alot as well.....I would really like to
know where they all fit in the "biggest seller" catagory. If anyone has
any clue, please post a reply. Thanks!
Have you prayed today?
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USA its just that they didnt start counting sales when Elvis was
popular, in recent times in the USA it has to be Garth Brooks, and
the biggest album ever has to be Thriller there can be no argument
about that.
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here in NewZealand and in Australia, and he does well in Ireland but
its country music so it doesnt have a big following in Europe.
On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 23:01:23 +0100, "Deggie" <deg...@nospam.com>
wrote:
>So how come Europeans hardly know who Garth Brooks is?
>
>
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>> Worldwide it has to be Elvis, according to the RIAA it is Elvis in the
>> USA its just that they didnt start counting sales when Elvis was
>> popular, in recent times in the USA it has to be Garth Brooks, and
>> the biggest album ever has to be Thriller there can be no argument
>> about that.
>>=20
>> On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 17:23:26 -0400 (EDT), Blac...@webtv.net (Darth
>> Zane) wrote:
>>=20
>> >Michael Jackson claims to be the biggest selling solo artists to =
>date.
>> >Thriller alone has sold about 50 million. Because of this, is it =
>true?
>> >Garth Brooks seems to sell quite alot as well.....I would really like =
>to
>> >know where they all fit in the "biggest seller" catagory. If anyone =
>has
>> >any clue, please post a reply. Thanks!
>> >
>> >Have you prayed today?
>> >
>>=20
>>=20
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George
1. Elvis
2. Beatles
3. Led Zeppelin
4. Garth Brooks
not sure when MJ stands but 5 would be my guess
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Bill
George wrote:
>
> apparently the top four is as such:
>
> 1. Elvis
> 2. Beatles
> 3. Led Zeppelin
> 4. Garth Brooks
>
> not sure when MJ stands but 5 would be my guess
Elvis and the Beatles are pretty much interchangable at number one with
each selling an estimated 1 billion world wide. On a worldwide basis,
Garth wouldn't be there. ABBA, with worldwide sales of over 350
million, would be somewhere.
Bill
Bill
DealahZ
Thriller more than 50 million, bad about 30 million,Dangerous also about
25/30 million, history about 25 million and off the waal and invincible
about 7 and 5/7 million.
Also his singles etc.I think he has sold the most..
Deggie
CONSPIRACY! CONSPIRACY! CONSPIRACY!
Randal Sheppard
news:3d5990e...@newsdirect.caverock.net.nz:
> I guess because its country music, his albums go gold and platinum
> here in NewZealand and in Australia, and he does well in Ireland but
> its country music so it doesnt have a big following in Europe.
>
While he is known here in Australia, he's nowhere near as big as he is in
the US. His last album 'Scarecrow' peaked at No.71 in the Australian charts
last year for example.
In a list I saw a few years ago he was well out of the top 10 highest
selling artists of all time, while Cliff Richard, who has sold well in
Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia and New Zealand over the past 44 years but
has only ever scored three US top ten hits back in the late seventies/early
eighties, was at No.10 with 280million sales.
I've actually managed to dig up the list (which is from 1998), but I'm not
entirely sure where it's from or how accurate it is. I know there is a
great deal of conjecture about how Beatles sales are calculated, so who
knows.
1. Beatles: 1,300million
2. Elvis: 980million
3. Elton John: 470million
4. Bing Crosby: 450million
5. Rolling Stones: 350million
6. Michael Jackson: 300million
7. Paul McCartney: 300million
8. Abba: 300million
9. Queen: 290million
10. Cliff Richard: 280million
All the best,
Randal Sheppard
GSB418
>1. Beatles: 1,300million
>2. Elvis: 980million
>3. Elton John: 470million
>4. Bing Crosby: 450million
>5. Rolling Stones: 350million
>6. Michael Jackson: 300million
>7. Paul McCartney: 300million
>8. Abba: 300million
>9. Queen: 290million
>10. Cliff Richard: 280million
>
>All the best,
>Randal Sheppard
This is the list I saw--it's so hard to find worldwide stats.
Watch--we'll have that Madonna guy all over our a** for this one..
Greg
kyle.
Shipped.
>million. Because of this, is it true?
>Garth Brooks seems to sell quite alot as well..
He seems to SHIP a lot.
kyle.
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kyle.
Secondly, ALL of these are WAY off so with the 2, I'd say your source is a
pretty bad one.
>1. Beatles: 1,300million
>2. Elvis: 980million
>3. Elton John: 470million
>4. Bing Crosby: 450million
>5. Rolling Stones: 350million
>6. Michael Jackson: 300million
>7. Paul McCartney: 300million
>8. Abba: 300million
>9. Queen: 290million
>10. Cliff Richard: 280million
>
>All the best,
>Randal Sheppard
>
>
kyle.
These people are truly dillusional
>MJ has sold more records that anyone else in the universe, and THE TRUTH =
>IS BEING KEPT FROM US!!!
>
>CONSPIRACY! CONSPIRACY! CONSPIRACY!
>
kyle.
>25/30 million, history about 25 million
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
WHERE did you make these numbers up from?
HIStory 25 million?!?!? LOLOLOL
HIStory has sold LESS than 3 MILLION copies here in America. & America's his
biggest market. So, without me going & getting my Billboards & Soundscans &
checking, say he sold DOUBLE that elsewhere, that would make it 6 million
worldwide.
WHERE do you get 25 million!!??!
Also, Dangerous has NOT sold 25 OR 30 million worldwide.
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Justin Pugh
Afghanistan and asked who Garth Brooks was and they would be like who??
Michael Jackson is know in the darkest corners of the world!
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Justin Pugh
The United States is not the world!!!
Michael after Elvis is the Biggest Selling Solo Artist in the World!!
There is no other!!
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Nat
> Other than Elvis Michael Jackson is the biggest selling artist
> worldwide!
There's no way. The Beatles would be higher in sales.
nos...@replytousenet.com
beatles and Elvis numbers are in the Billions worldwide.
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Randal Sheppard
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>>
>>1. Beatles: 1,300million
>>2. Elvis: 980million
>>3. Elton John: 470million
>>4. Bing Crosby: 450million
>>5. Rolling Stones: 350million
>>6. Michael Jackson: 300million
>>7. Paul McCartney: 300million
>>8. Abba: 300million
>>9. Queen: 290million
>>10. Cliff Richard: 280million
>>
>>All the best,
>>Randal Sheppard
>
> This is the list I saw--it's so hard to find worldwide stats.
>
It is extremely hard. They all seem fairly reasonable to me, but I think
there's some disagreement on how Beatles sales are calculated. I think some
calculations make up for the fact that singles weren't individually
released from a lot of the albums with some formula that doesn't actually
count sales.
> Watch--we'll have that Madonna guy all over our a** for this one..
>
Heh, that's what I thought when I was posting it.
To be honest, I recently looked at a list of her worldwide sales divided up
by singles and albums and I'd always thought she sold more and was closer
to MJ in sales during the eighties. While she's certainly outsold
Invincible with her last two albums, neither of them were as big as HIStory
worldwide. When you look at a lot of the artists on the list like Elvis,
Beatles, Elton, Bing Crosby, Cliff Richard, etc, they've all been around
for such a long time and had so many hit albums, singles and then greatest
hits collections that it'd be hard to imagine they wouldn't be up there.
Randal Sheppard
news:20020814140007...@mb-ca.aol.com:
> OK well first of all 1,300 million isn't a number.
>
I think you'll find that 1,300million also means 1.3billion.
> Secondly, ALL of these are WAY off so with the 2, I'd say your source
> is a pretty bad one.
>
Perhaps, I know there is some disagreement about how Beatles sales are
calculated. The rest seem fairly reasonable to me, though, so how do you
figure they're so far off?
Randal Sheppard
news:20020814140242...@mb-ca.aol.com:
>>Thriller more than 50 million, bad about 30 million,Dangerous also
>>about 25/30 million, history about 25 million
>
> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
>
> WHERE did you make these numbers up from?
>
> HIStory 25 million?!?!? LOLOLOL
>
> HIStory has sold LESS than 3 MILLION copies here in America. &
> America's his biggest market. So, without me going & getting my
> Billboards & Soundscans & checking, say he sold DOUBLE that elsewhere,
> that would make it 6 million worldwide.
>
America hasn't been his biggest market for a long time, and around the
beginning of the HIStory world tour the official figure was 15million
individual copies sold worldwide. After the tour it went back into the top
ten and even topped the charts of a few countries (including here in
Australia where it was then certified 6x platinum) and Forbes recently put
the figure at 16million.
I remember a Time magazine article which stated it had sold more copies
than Thriller had outside of America, but I'm not sure if that's entirely
acurate.
I agree there's no way it sold 25million copies, but 16million sounds
reasonable.
> WHERE do you get 25 million!!??!
>
> Also, Dangerous has NOT sold 25 OR 30 million worldwide.
>
This is probably doubtful too. I think the figure was something like 21 or
22million a few years back, and I doubt it's sold a few million since then.
MJinsider
legend. Although he had a real legitimate shot during the peak of Thriller.
<< Subject: Re: WHO IS TRUELY THE "BIGGEST SELLING" SOLO ARTIST?
From: BettyBo...@hotmail.com (Nat)
Date: Thu, Aug 15, 2002 9:07 AM
Message-id: <1fgx7zw.ntea82gt26psN%BettyBo...@hotmail.com>
Nat
> This is probably doubtful too. I think the figure was something like 21
> or 22million a few years back, and I doubt it's sold a few million since
> then.
MJIFC had it at 25 or 27 million.
kyle.
That's interesting, because Elvis isn't number one. The Beatles are.....your
missing A LOT of people before MJ
kyle.
>
>Michael after Elvis is the Biggest Selling Solo Artist in the World!!
>
>There is no other!!
Um your EXTRMELLY wrong!! ELVIS ISNT EVEN NUMBER ONE!!
kyle.
>worldwide
Um u are way off... ROL & Music are both close to 16 million worldwide EACH!!!
HIStory (a greatest hits album btw) is not even close.
NOt 2 mention thats sad that an artists studio album has sold more than another
artists greatest hits
kyle.
Information is complete through the February 1, 2002.
===========================================================
MADONNA (First Appearance on Albums/Singles Chart: 1983)
===========================================================
"HIGHTLIGHTS FOR CHART RECORD OF NOTE":
+ Most Top 10 singles (35) of any female artist in history, second only to
Elvis Presley (38). Of note, she recently beat the Beatles (34) with Don't Tell
Me.
+ Most Top 5 singles (27) of any female artist, third only to Elvis Presley
(33) and the Beatles (29).
+ Top selling female artist in domestic history. Also, top selling female
artist in the world.
+ Female artist with the most #1's on any given chart (27 #1 dance singles
alone)
+ Has won more awards for video than any artist in history, female or male.
+ First artist to include extra track/s to a greatest hits package.
+ First artist to release a commercial video clip. (2 million units sold,
Justify My Love).
+ One of only four post 19th Century artists in history to have a Library Of
Congress ISBN Call number assigned to them. (the Beatles, Bob Marley, Elvis
Presley). (As a subject for literary purposes.).
+ In 1996, surpassed Barbra Streisand as most succesful female artist of all
time.
+ Only female head of a major record label (Maverick Records Inc).
+ First artist to have airplay only track break Top 20.
+ Most successful concert performance as a cable event. (Home Box Office, 1993,
The Girlie Show).
+ Most succesful female concert tour (Blonde Ambition, Girlie Show, Drowned
World Tour).
+ Fastest sell out tour in history (Drowned World Tour, 24 minutes, World Wide)
+ Largest Internet Broadcast Concert 8/28/2000 - 11 million people
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ALBUMS- Domestic Sales
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Madonna...............................#8...................6 platinum
Like a Virgin..........................#1 (3 weeks)...11 platinum
True Blue..............................#1 (5 weeks)... 9 platinum
Who's That Girl (soundtrack)..#7...................3 platinum
You Can Dance....................#14..................3 platinum
Like a Prayer.......................#1 (6 weeks)......9 platinum
I'm Breathless......................#2 (3 weeks)......4 platinum
The Immaculate Collection....#2 (2 weeks)......12 platinum
Erotica................................#2 (1 week)........4 platinum
Bedtime Stories...................#3.....................4 platinum
Something to Remember......#6.....................3 platinum
Evita: The Complete Motion
Picture Music Soundtrack...#2 (2 weeks)......5 platinum
Music from the Motion
Picture Evita.......................#167
Ray of Light.........................#2 (2 weeks).......5 platinum
Music..................................#1 (1 week)
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SINGLES- Domestic, "Hot 100" Chart
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Everybody.............................#107 (on the "Bubbling Under
the Hot 100" chart)
Burning Up.............................Did not chart (ncr)
Holiday...............................#16 (#1 Dance)
Borderline...........................#10.................Gold (#1 Dance)
Lucky Star..........................#4
Like a Virgin........................#1 (6 weeks).......Gold
Material Girl........................#2 (2 weeks)
Crazy for You.....................#1 (1 week)........Gold
NOTE: "Like a Virgin" and "Crazy for You" were certified Gold
for sales of 1,000,000 copies under old certification rules and
have not been re-certified platinum, although they are now
eligible.
Angel..................................#5
NOTE: The 12-inch single "Angel/Into the Groove" is Gold,
for sales of more than 500,000 copies.)
Dress You Up......................#5 (#1 Dance)
Live to Tell...........................#1 (1 week)
Papa Don't Preach...............#1 (2 weeks).......Gold
True Blue............................#3.................Gold
Open Your Heart..................#1 (1 week)
La Isla Bonita......................#4
Who's That Girl...................#1 (1 week) (#1 Dance)
Causing a Commotion.........#2 (3 weeks) (#1 Dance)
Like a Prayer......................#1 (3 weeks).......1 platinum (#1 Dance)
Express Yourself................#2 (2 weeks).......Gold (#1 Dance)
Cherish..............................#2 (2 weeks)
Oh Father...........................#20
Keep It Together..................#8.................Gold
Vogue.................................#1 (3 weeks).......2 platinum (#1 Dance)
Hanky Panky......................#10.................Gold
Justify My Love...................#1 (2 weeks).......1 platinum (#1 Dance)
Rescue Me.........................#9.................Gold (#1 Dance)
This Used to Be My Playground..........#1 (1 week)........Gold
Erotica...............................#3.................Gold (#1 Dance)
Deeper and Deeper..............#7 (#1 Dance)
Bad Girl..............................#36
Rain...................................#14
I'll Remember......................#2 (4 weeks).......Gold
Secret................................#3.................Gold (#1 Dance)
Take a Bow.........................#1 (7 weeks).......Gold
Bedtime Story.....................#42
Human Nature.....................#46 (#1 Dance)
You'll See...........................#6.................Gold
Love Don't Live Here Anymore..........#78
You Must Love Me..............#18.................Gold
Don't Cry For Me Argentina.............#8
Frozen...............................#2 (1 week)........Gold (#1 Dance)
Ray Of Light.......................#5.................Gold (#1 Dance)
The Power Of Good-Bye.....#11
Nothing Really Matters........#97 (#1 Dance)
Beautiful Stranger...............#16 (#1 Dance)
American Pie.....................#34 (#1 Dance)
Music................................#1 (4 weeks)........platinum (#1 Dance)
Don't Tell Me......................#4........platinum (#1 Dance)
What It Feels Like For A Girl...#23 (#1 Dance)
Impressive Instant...............#1 (Dance/Club Only)
42 Top 40 Hits == 40 Top 20 Hits == 35 Top 10 Hits == 12 #1 Hits
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ncr=not commercially released
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HOT 100 AIRPLAY PEAKS FOR NON-HOT 100 TRACKS
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Spotlight (1987)......................#32
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Randal Sheppard
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>>Invincible with her last two albums, neither of them were as big as
>>HIStory worldwide
>
> Um u are way off... ROL & Music are both close to 16 million worldwide
> EACH!!!
>
> HIStory (a greatest hits album btw) is not even close.
Hmm, well I'd read ROL's sales figures as 14.5million and Music as "10
million in January 2001 and shipped 4.1 million during 2001" which would be
14.1million copies shipped up to the end of 2001. Her album sales figure
was put as 153.5million worldwide, but not sure about singles.
HIStory's sales figure was officially quoted as 15million in 1996, and
Forbes recently quoted it as in excess of 16million which would make sense
given its rise in worldwide charts after the 1996/97 world tour.
There is no doubt Madonna has done extremely well, but maybe in total she
hasn't sold quite as much as a handful of other artists. Is that a major
problem?
> NOt 2 mention thats sad that an artists studio album has sold more than
> another artists greatest hits
Well, for a start, HIStory wasn't *just* a greatest hits album for what
that's worth. Secondly, GHV2 sold less than Invincible in the US didn't it?
It's really neither here nor there that a greatest hits album doesn't
outsell an all-new album from someone else. The world's highest selling
album wasn't a greatest hits album, for example.
MYopinion
HIStory has sold around 16 million double albums worldwide,which means
that sales are counted as 32 million. If we are going to count Tupac's
Double album sales,Garth's double album sales,and EVERY other artists'
double albums as counting as single sales,then we are going to count
HIStory as selling or certified as 7 million in US and 32 millio
worldwide. That's the way it has always been done,and that's the way it
will continue to be done.
Randal Sheppard
news:20020815004910...@mb-cv.aol.com:
> From Billboard UPDATE:
>
> Information is complete through the February 1, 2002.
>
I don't think anyone would argue that Madonna has been anything other than
successful. What's the point of posting all this?
I can't 100% verify the accuracy of the sales figures that I posted, and
suspect that The Beatles are a lot closer to Elvis in reality. The others,
however, largely make sense.
An example of the world outside America mattering would be someone like
Cliff Richard who you've likely never heard of. He's been singing for more
than 40 years now, and at his peak in the sixties had 19 consecutive
singles which sold more than 1million copies worldwide, and five other
million sellers on either side. In the seventies he came back with more hit
singles, one selling over 1million and two selling over 2million. In the
eighties again he had another 5 singles which sold over 1million, and his
last single to really register was The Millennium Prayer (whatever you make
of it) which sold about 1.5million copies around the world in 1999. Add to
that the fact he's released in total 132 singles which have generally sold
a few hundred thousand copies each and 124 of which have reached the UK top
40 earning him a place in The Guiness Book of Records, more than 60 albums
which sell from the hundred thousands to over 1million, and all the EPs and
other stuff they used to sell in the sixties and it all adds up. Sure
Madonna per album would sell a lot more than Cliff, but he's got time on
his side.
While I can't be bothered typing it all up, similar figures could be given
for artists like Elton, Elvis, Beatles, etc I'm sure.
As for MJ, he has generally been bigger outside the US than Madonna so US
statistics don't necessarily equal higher worldwide sales. For example,
here in Australia GHV2 was certified platinum while Invincible was
certified double platinum, Music and ROL were certified 3x platinum while
HIStory was certified 6x platinum, Dangerous was certified 8x platinum with
the only Madonna album beating that being The Immaculate Collection which
was certified 11x platinum. So, while Madonna is definately huge, Michael
Jackson has just been bigger and I think this has generally been the case
around the world. It doesn't take away from her success, so I don't see why
you get so up tight about it.
EmmaPeachbuns
>
How appropriate.
Jilly
kyle.
>million in January 2001 and shipped 4.1 million during 2001" which would be
>14.1million copies shipped up to the end of 2001.
Very true.
ROL is VERY CLOSE 2 16 million! & Music is still selling.
> Her album sales figure
>was put as 153.5million worldwide, but not >sure about singles.
Yes thatz about right. A bit higher. With singlez shez over 250 million.
>HIStory's sales figure was officially quoted >as 15million in 1996,
Your not dividing that in half.
>Secondly, GHV2 sold less than Invincible >in the US didn't it?
Yep.
>The world's highest selling
>album wasn't a greatest hits album, for example.
>
All right, I agree. Good Post Randal :)
kyle.
>that sales are counted as 32 million.
No Pam, HIStory is shipped @ 16 million which means sales are at 8 MILLION!
>If we are going to count Tupac's
>Double album sales,Garth's double album sales,and EVERY other artists'
>double albums as counting as single sales
We dont.
Bill
"kyle." wrote:
>
> >HIStory's sales figure was officially quoted >as 15million in 1996,
>
> Your not dividing that in half.
I believe that the doubling of double albums in terms of sales is a US
thing only.
Also, if Madonna's world sales are about 154 million, then that puts her
behind Nana Mouskouri who has world sales of more than 200 million. So
I guess Madonna isn't the biggest selling female singer after all.
Bill
Randal Sheppard
news:20020815114903...@mb-mk.aol.com:
>>Hmm, well I'd read ROL's sales figures as 14.5million and Music as "10
>>million in January 2001 and shipped 4.1 million during 2001" which
>>would be 14.1million copies shipped up to the end of 2001.
>
> Very true.
>
> ROL is VERY CLOSE 2 16 million! & Music is still selling.
>
Madonna does seem to sell quite well over time, and I have noticed her
older albums do often seem to pick up new certifications every few years
out here.
>> Her album sales figure
>>was put as 153.5million worldwide, but not >sure about singles.
>
> Yes thatz about right. A bit higher. With singlez shez over 250
> million.
>
>>HIStory's sales figure was officially quoted >as 15million in 1996,
>
> Your not dividing that in half.
Worldwide sales figures are not doubled for double albums. For some reason
the US counts double albums as 2 sales for certifications, but nowhere else
does to my knowledge. When HIStory was certified 6x platinum in Australia,
for example, it was for selling 420,000 copies (yes, we are a small
country!), not 210,000.
Once again, on a worldwide basis the difference between selling, say, 14 or
15million copies as opposed to 16million isn't amazingly significant.
>
>>Secondly, GHV2 sold less than Invincible >in the US didn't it?
>
>
> Yep.
>
>
>>The world's highest selling
>>album wasn't a greatest hits album, for example.
>>
>
> All right, I agree. Good Post Randal :)
Why thank you!
kyle.
>behind Nana Mouskouri who has world sales of more than 200 million. So
>I guess Madonna isn't the biggest selling <female singer after all.
Thatz what soundscan has her listed at.
kyle.
>the US counts double albums as 2 sales for certifications, but nowhere else
>does to my knowledge.
Yes But PAM was saying that meanz the album sold 32 million worldwide, which
just isn't true
Randal Sheppard
news:20020815122210...@mb-mk.aol.com:
>>For some reason
>>the US counts double albums as 2 sales for certifications, but nowhere
>>else does to my knowledge.
>
> Yes But PAM was saying that meanz the album sold 32 million worldwide,
> which just isn't true
Well, yeah, 16million double albums sold is 16million double albums sold.
It's not 32million by any stretch of the imagination which is what I find
odd about the US certification system
Bill
"kyle." wrote:
>
> >Also, if Madonna's world sales are about 154 million, then that puts her
> >behind Nana Mouskouri who has world sales of more than 200 million. So
> >I guess Madonna isn't the biggest selling <female singer after all.
>
> Thatz what soundscan has her listed at.
> kyle.
If Soundscan tracked world sales and not just the US and Canada, their
listing would carry a bit more weight. Not to mention that Soundscan
has only been in existence since 1991, so what about sales before that?
Instead of believing everything that Billboard and Soundscan says, maybe
you should do a little more independent research.
Bill
Bill
kyle.
>listing would carry a bit more weight.
Yes, but they work with the RIAA from before 91 (which is when SS started) 2
"guesstimate" the "inbetweenz".
> Not to mention that Soundscan
>has only been in existence since 1991 so >what about sales before that?
LOL I just said the same thing :-X
Bill
"kyle." wrote:
>
> >If Soundscan tracked world sales and not just the US and Canada, their
> >listing would carry a bit more weight.
>
> Yes, but they work with the RIAA from before 91 (which is when SS started) 2
> "guesstimate" the "inbetweenz".
You keep ignoring the obvious: Soundscan and the RIAA are only tracking
UNITED STATES SALES, NOT WORLDWIDE SALES. So using them as your source
for worldwide sales is useless. If Madonna has estimated world sales of
154 million and Nana Moskori has estimated world sales of at least 200
million, then Madonna can't be the most successful female recording
artist, now can she.
Bill
MYopinion
Why are you so jealous,hateful,spiteful and vindictive? Shouldn't you
find the Osama board and vent your disgusting vengence on a worth
candidate.
Please don't tell me that you are a mother/father,because you are a poor
role model for anyone,especially young people.
People like you need to be put out of their misery.Your HATE is like a
cancer and it is sickening.You are a disgrace to society!
pk
EmmaPeachbuns
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! And your admiration of a CHILD MOLESTER is to be admired??
Don't you dare preach to me about being disgraceful. I'm surprised you're not
an admirer of Osama. He and MJ both went after the innocent.
May I cordially invite you to KMA?
Jilly
MYopinion
You are just as I thought! A biased and ignorant creature who is too
STUPID to know the difference between a confirmed MURDERER of thousands
of innocent people and a man accused( with NO PROOF) by a repulsive
father of abusing his wayward son.
Maybe next time Osama can aim a little closer to home-YOURS.
It's people like you,who are the scum of the earth.You make me want to
vomit.
You talk about nerve,and YOU have the nerve to spew your HATE on someone
who has not done anyone harm.Are you a member of the KKK.If not,go and
join,you would make a valid candidate.
Don't comeback with a "weak-ass" reply saying that I don't know what MJ
did. The FACT is that YOU don't know.either.
pk
MJinsider
attack this boy. What did he do that was so way ward and terrible beside hang
out with MJ?
And to wish Osama would kill another person simply because they criticize MJ is
simply the surest sign of mental illness.
:: shudders::
<< Subject: Re: WHO IS TRUELY THE "BIGGEST SELLING" SOLO ARTIST?
From: Pame...@webtv.net (MYopinion)
Date: Sat, Aug 17, 2002 7:29 AM
Message-id: <10970-3D5...@storefull-2376.public.lawson.webtv.net>
MYopinion
I thought that you were not going to respond to my posts anymore?
I see that you could not resist "sticking your nose" in other people's
conversation.
Any person(jilly) who claims that I would support a CHILD MOLESTOR is a
person who IS mentally ill. She/he/it had the audacity to put Osama and
MJ in the same breath as harming innocent people and you wonder why I am
outraged at this creature. How would YOU like to be put into the SAME
category as a MURDERER of THOUSANDS of innocent people. I wonder if YOU
be so forgiving.Maybe you should consider "jilly" as the unstable
one,unless YOU agree with his/her/its SICKNESS. Maybe "its" rants fit
your warped way of thinking.It's amazing how quickly you are at calling
someone mentally ill and ignoring the TRULY sick ones-jilly and
yourself. How could YOU support someone who so FRIVOULSY acts as if
murdering THOUSANDS of people was a joke and compares that murderer to
MJ? Maybe she needs to re-direct her sickness and hate toward the TRUE
culprits-Osama and the catholic priests who HAVE molested HUNDREDS of
innocent children.
I called Jordan Chadler "wayward" because the father did NOT care his
son, He owed $65,000 in BACK child support. He only became re-attached
his son AFTER he found out that MJ had befriended him. Maybe wayward
should apply to the father.
MJinsider
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EmmaPeachbuns
>MJ in the same breath as harming
You're the one who brought him into this equation, deary. Your obsession with
that grotesque freak Jackson is downright scary. I'd toss you into the killfile
but it's too much fun watching you make a complete ass of your self. Thanks for
the laughs.
Jilly
MYopinion
you are not an admirer of Osama.He and MJ both went after the
innocent.(Aug.15,2002-8:20 p.m.)
This is what the even sicker and demented "jilly" posted on Aug.17,2002:
"You're the one to bring him(Osama) into this equation."
Either you are on crack or you are mentally disturbed. These are YOUR
posts and YOUR words. Are you denying that you put that MURDERER Osama
and MJ in the same breath? If you do deny it,then you are a bigger ass
than I thought you were.
This has nothing to do with obsession,but has EVERYTHING to do with
creatures like you having the audacity to THINK that you can put another
human being who has done no harm to ANYONE in the same category of a
murderer of thousands of innocent people.
If you are STILL too sick to ADMIT that you are a lying coward,then do
the desperate thing that all cowards do and "killfile" me. It will not
matter,because in the end you will still be a lying,guillble
HATER/BASHER.
The nerve of you idiots never ceases to amaze me.You act as if you have
the right to bash a person with no rebuttals. Think again dearie,you do
NOT have that right!
The really sickening thing is that you call someone obsessed because
he/she does not agree with your warped venom. The obsession is YOU and
others like you who continue to come to a forum with the sole intent of
hating and bashing a person.
That is the epitome of MENTAL ILLNESS!!!
pk
EmmaPeachbuns
>posts and YOUR words. Are you denying that you put that MURDERER Osama
>and MJ in the same breath? If you do deny it,then you are a bigger ass
>than I thought you were.
>
Hey, a$$hole, YOU'RE the one who FIRST brought up Osama, when YOU suggested I
go to some Osama board to post messages. So, get your stories straight. Or, is
that a foreign concept to you?
>warped venom. The obsession is YOU and
>
Oh, so now you're obsessed with me? Greeeeaaaaaatttttt.....
You know....the way you go on and on (and on and on and on and on and on)
reminds me of a line from William Shakespeare....."me thinks thou dost protest
too much." Go ahead and enjoy freak boy. (Sick) birds of a feather, and all
that.
Jilly
MJinsider
slapped silly has really damaged your brain. So let me brake it down for you.
Jilly believes MJ is a child molester, and like many decent people, feels a
child molester is the scum of the earth, same as Osama.
Now you dont believe MJ is a child molester, and that is fine. You have a right
to your opinion like Jilly does. But when you go and wish somebody to be
murdered just because they have a negative opinion of MJ, that is going to far,
even for you!
Wishing someone would be killed by Osama for not liking MJ crosses the line.
You have now graduated from being a simple loon to a dangerous a psycho and
there is no way you can even begin to clean this post up with your loony logic
and excuses.
<< Subject: Re: WHO IS TRUELY THE "BIGGEST SELLING" SOLO ARTIST?
From: Pame...@webtv.net (MYopinion)
Date: Sun, Aug 18, 2002 5:53 AM
Message-id: <10970-3D5...@storefull-2376.public.lawson.webtv.net>
MYopinion
Insidious,
I know that you don't consider yourself an intellectual. You sound like
the schoolyard bully who has had the crap beat out him,and STILL insists
that he WON.
It is so laughable to think that you or any of your other cronies have
beat me at ANYTHING. If it makes you and yours feel better,continue the
delusion.
You certainly are beoming more and more paranoid. Get a grip,mister! You
are losing it BIG TIME!
When will you obsession with Michael STOP? You have crossed the
"line",and it is out of control. Get back to your "prosecuting"(LOL)
duties.
MJinsider
negative opinion of MJ. At the very least you owe Jilly an apology and while
you are at it, you owe one to all the victims family s of 9/11. But for sure
you need help.
I wonder what the parents of the students you allegedly teach would think of
your views of murder and revenge in the name of Michael Jackson?
<< Subject: Re: WHO IS TRUELY THE "BIGGEST SELLING" SOLO ARTIST?
From: Pame...@webtv.net (MYopinion)
Date: Mon, Aug 19, 2002 10:46 AM
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LNIdakula
LNIdakula
Darth Zane
Biggest Selling Solo Artist". The answers I have recieved have all been
inconclusive. I guess no one really knows.
Have you prayed today?