Archives of Pain intro
Tom Cosgrave
Where did the sample come from at the start?
Tom
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okay, dont quote me but i think this was said by the mother of one of
the hindly/brady victims
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Tom Cosgrave <t...@indigo.ie> wrote in message
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Andy B
>In article <Cux83.6258$yr2....@news.indigo.ie>,
> "Tom Cosgrave" <t...@indigo.ie> wrote:
>> Hi folks....
>> Where did the sample come from at the start?
>>
>> Tom
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>>
>> "...any fool can regret yesterday..."
>> ...Manic Street Preachers (Archives Of Pain)
>>
>>
>
>
>okay, dont quote me but i think this was said by the mother of one of
>the hindly/brady victims
It definitely was and it's well documented in the FAQ: one thing
though, does anyone know who it was that said that in any more detail?
I've always wanted to know but everyone's always answered with a
"mother of one of the victims" type response.
Andy
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Tom Cosgrave
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arrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
ahem.
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Leo Edwards
> I think you are the Devil itself
Ya-huh, but it sounds more like 'Goth taketh it away, not you'!
Just thought I'd share that with you all anwyays...
Tom Cosgrave
Samir wrote in message <7k0567$o9a$3...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>...
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>ahem.
The only pop outfit I actually like.
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Haz
> Samir wrote in message <7k0567$o9a$3...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>...
> >
> >ahem.
>
> The only pop outfit I actually like.
I wonder why you chose the Corrs, eh? ;-)
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Haz wrote in message <3763D743...@cwcom.net>...
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>I wonder why you chose the Corrs, eh? ;-)
They're Irish, very talented musicans, the girls are nice looking, and
they're really nice folks.
Michael Withington
>>the hindly/brady victims
>
>It definitely was and it's well documented in the FAQ:
According to some old FAQ I found kicking around my computer it was...
"from the mother of one of the girls killed by the Yorkshire Ripper.Said
to camera's outside the court room in Leeds where the trial was being
held"
No names mentioned though.
Tom Cosgrave
Tristesse Durera wrote in message <376a1ca6...@news.tesco.net>...
>The Short Bios in your FAQ
>doesn't mention what part of Ireland they are from - well?
Dundalk. The Short bios, is just a statistical thing, I'll update if I get
time.
>ObManics: they're Welsh, very talented, um, and they're really nice
>folks.
:-)
Daniel Burton
and aren't too sure of ettiquite, if there is any...
But the intro of Archives of Pain ,the " I wonder who you think you
are..." was what one of the mothers of a victim of Myra Hindley and Ian
Bradey said to them at the trial, i'm pretty sure thats right.
Also (from the same book) the line from Off Walking Abortion "Like
maggots small blind and worthless" was from poetry from a guy Ian Brady
was trying to convince to join them in their killings, who from memory
later cracked under the pressure.
Hope this helps to clear part of it up.
Dan.
Tom Cosgrave wrote:
>
> Hi folks....
> Where did the sample come from at the start?
>
Daniel Burton
know what some other manic fanatics think of their latest album. New
Zealand is not the best place for anything manics, and they are only
really known for their last album. I think that TIMT its a bit of a cop
out, lyrically weak and musically inferior to the other albums. I may
get lashed for this, but what happened to Nickys "We will never write a
love song, ever"?
I'm sure this has all been discussed before, but enlighten me. I'll be
very happy to be proved wrong.
dan.
Diva
>Must say that i've only just hooked up to this whole newsgroup thing
>and aren't too sure of ettiquite, if there is any...
Um, main things are read the FAQ and spell Richey's name right!
>But the intro of Archives of Pain ,the " I wonder who you think you
>are..." was what one of the mothers of a victim of Myra Hindley and Ian
>Bradey said to them at the trial, i'm pretty sure thats right.
>Also (from the same book)
Which book please?
>the line from Off Walking Abortion "Like
>maggots small blind and worthless" was from poetry from a guy Ian Brady
>was trying to convince to join them in their killings, who from memory
>later cracked under the pressure.
>Hope this helps to clear part of it up.
Thanks Dan, that's really interesting - will check it out! That line about
maggots was one Richey had been saving for a while, because it appears in
"Seven Days in the life of Richey James" which was written when GT was being
recorded...
Jeremy Young
> Okay, so the archives of pain q. has been answered. But i really want
> to
> know what some other manic fanatics think of their latest album. New
> Zealand is not the best place for anything manics, and they are only
> really known for their last album. I think that TIMT its a bit of a
> cop
> out, lyrically weak and musically inferior to the other albums. I may
> get lashed for this, but what happened to Nickys "We will never write
> a
> love song, ever"?
> I'm sure this has all been discussed before, but enlighten me. I'll be
>
> very happy to be proved wrong.
I think TIMT is a brilliant, if different, offering from the Manics.
They are definitely mellowing out but I see it as a change of pace and a
brilliant one at that. By the way, what love songs are there on TIMT? I
would love to be enlightened.
Daniel Burton
violence and mass murder, pretty weird stuff. I'll try and find it again
and send in the poetry, if its there, but that was the only manics ref i
recognised throughout the book.
What is "Seven days in the life of Richey James", i'll assume its an
interview but where can i find it, also other Richey or early manics
stuff would be cool.
Dan.
Daniel Burton
exam haze so i'm really not sure. I guess the TIMT album just doesn't
seem the same lyrically, though thats a pretty stupic comment for
obvious reasons. I just think its all to radio (read consumer) friendly,
while good on them for what the've achieved, have they mellowed out a
bit too much?
Organon
> Okay, so the archives of pain q. has been answered. But i really want to
> know what some other manic fanatics think of their latest album.
Personally (he says ducking for cover) I bought it, played it for about a
week, and then returned it! I still have everything else of theirs' I can
lay my hands on though (thanks Samir, and Archives web manager). Although, I
confess, some of the live versions of TIMTTMY songs are beginning to grow on
me.
New
> Zealand is not the best place for anything manics, and they are only
> really known for their last album.
Welcome to another New Zealand Manics fan; yes, NZ not a good place for
Manics fans. 'Tolerate' was thrashed on radio, but even played at parties
no-one recognises it. 'Motorcycle Emptiness' - which bFM still play
occasionally - appears to be the only early MSP song even moderately known
here. And they didn't show up at the Big Day Out 'cos they had to flit
through the States instead. Sigh.
Peter Cresswell
The Rattler
dbu...@student.auckland.ac.nz says...
> Okay, so the archives of pain q. has been answered. But i really want to
> Zealand is not the best place for anything manics, and they are only
> out, lyrically weak and musically inferior to the other albums.
It's a different kettle of fish altogether really. A more mellowed-out,
musically-led affair rather than the in-your-face lyrical barrage of
their earlier works. Certainly not a bad album (although the production
drains a lot from it)... Just different. :)
> I may
> get lashed for this, but what happened to Nickys "We will never write a
> love song, ever"?
Where are the love songs on TIMTTMY?
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Phil Cowans
>Where are the love songs on TIMTTMY?
You Stole The Sun From My Heart?
Diva
>i cant remember the name of the book but it was kind of the history of
>violence and mass murder, pretty weird stuff. I'll try and find it again
>and send in the poetry, if its there, but that was the only manics ref i
>recognised throughout the book.
Thank you, that would be great - I'll settle for a title but the poem would
be even better!
>What is "Seven days in the life of Richey James", i'll assume its an
>interview but where can i find it, also other Richey or early manics
>stuff would be cool.
http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~esweb/ the "This Is Yesterday" site has
"Seven Days..." and interviews.
Shazbok
> would love to be enlightened.
'You Stole The Sun From My Heart'. "I love you all the same".
First time (AFAIK) those three words have been mentioned in a Manics
song.
Sarah
Aaron Matthews
too. Was looking forward tho the Big Day Out. They were the only good act
that were going to come.
Organon wrote in message <7kan5a$rb7$1...@newsource.ihug.co.nz>...
>
>> Okay, so the archives of pain q. has been answered. But i really want to
>> know what some other manic fanatics think of their latest album.
>
>Personally (he says ducking for cover) I bought it, played it for about a
>week, and then returned it! I still have everything else of theirs' I can
>lay my hands on though (thanks Samir, and Archives web manager). Although,
I
>confess, some of the live versions of TIMTTMY songs are beginning to grow
on
>me.
>
>New
>> Zealand is not the best place for anything manics, and they are only
>> really known for their last album.
>
Yossarian
>First time (AFAIK) those three words have been mentioned in a Manics
>song.
>
>Sarah
I think your probably right. On a different note, which Manics song is their
first 'love' song?..I know the band said they wouldn't do a love song, but I
guess 'Further Away' is one....but what about 'Behave Yourself Baby'? Isn't
that one? Is 'Hibernation' a love song or just a cynical, sneering love
song? 'Love torn us under'..is that about love? 'Comfort Comes'....a lack of
love song?
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Yossarian
Mancis....you must have heard of them...?
Bruise Pristine
>
> Mancis....you must have heard of them...?
Oh yes, dahling, Mancis are one of my *faves*. ;)
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Daniel Burton <dbu...@student.auckland.ac.nz> schreef in artikel
<37687DBD...@student.auckland.ac.nz>...
> I think i was referring to 'Further away'from EMG, but i was in a pre
> exam haze so i'm really not sure. I guess the TIMT album just doesn't
> seem the same lyrically, though thats a pretty stupic comment for
> obvious reasons. I just think its all to radio (read consumer) friendly,
> while good on them for what the've achieved, have they mellowed out a
> bit too much?
>
> Jeremy Young wrote:
> >
> > Daniel Burton wrote:
> >
> > > Okay, so the archives of pain q. has been answered. But i really want
> > > to
> > > know what some other manic fanatics think of their latest album. New
> > > Zealand is not the best place for anything manics, and they are only
> > > really known for their last album. I think that TIMT its a bit of a
> > > cop
> > > out, lyrically weak and musically inferior to the other albums. I may
> > > get lashed for this, but what happened to Nickys "We will never write
> > > a
> > > love song, ever"?
> > > I'm sure this has all been discussed before, but enlighten me. I'll
be
> > >
> > > very happy to be proved wrong.
> >
> > I think TIMT is a brilliant, if different, offering from the Manics.
> > They are definitely mellowing out but I see it as a change of pace and
a
> > brilliant one at that. By the way, what love songs are there on TIMT? I
> > would love to be enlightened.
> Well, i agree with the first guy, TIMT is not as good, they seem
to have lost that passion and fury that they had before, TIMT depresses
me , always great lyrics though, my all time fave band. Sogs be.
Daniel Burton
Colin Wilson.
The only manics bit i found in it was written by David Smith who Brady
was trying to initiate into the killings. Smith in his diary wrote
"Rape is not a crime, it is a state of mind.
Murder is a hobby and a supreme pleasure
God is a superstition, a cancer that eats into the brain
People are like maggots, small, blind and worthless." (Pg 24)
I got most of the way through it, but i wouldn't recommend it, unless
you have a bizarre interest, or time to kill.
Makes you wonder just how widely Richey/Nicky have read to be able to
pull in such an obscure quote.
Dan