international lyrics server
derek...@hotmail.com
moved against them and seized the servers/database etc. Thanks HF. I see no
good reason why HF thinks that the ILS is a threat, but once again we see that
money is power. Personally, I will boycott any artist or other product that is
represented by them. What do you think??
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push...@my-dejanews.com
derek...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Have you checked out the message on the ILS home page!!!! Harry Fox agency has
> moved against them and seized the servers/database etc. Thanks HF. I see no
> good reason why HF thinks that the ILS is a threat, but once again we see that
> money is power. Personally, I will boycott any artist or other product that is
> represented by them. What do you think??
I normally don't bother with boycotts or anything of the sort but this really
gets me mad! The ILS was an incredible service that made it possible to
enjoy music in a richer fashion. IMHO, the existence of the ILS would serve
to INCREASE the revenues of the people that shut it down. Stupid, stupid,
stupid.
So, what companies are involved and what artists are being taken along as
somewhat-innocent victims (since they'll be boycotted even though they may
have absolutely nothing to do with the HF actions)?
--
Carlo
push...@my-dejanews.com
Freddo
>Have you checked out the message on the ILS home page!!!!
How long do your news threads take to come through? Seeing as we have been
talking about this for 3 days......
Danny Keck
support for www.lyrics.ch should be galvanized soon. I am thinking that one person
or one group of people should quickly create and advertise a web site (could be on
Geocities or something like that) that explains the situation, provides the best
arguments defending www.lyrics.ch, and tells the public what can be done to protest
the situation. Currently there is probably enough hype that Yahoo and some other
big sites may notice and grant publicity to the page. Obviously the lawyers and big
companies have a huge advantage in this conflict, and I think the fine folks who
created this site would appreciate the PR boost.
Does anyone like this idea? Is anyone willing to step up and save the lyrics? Or
perhaps this is already happening...?
- Danny Keck
chey...@teamknightrider.com
derek...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Have you checked out the message on the ILS home page!!!! Harry Fox agency has
> moved against them and seized the servers/database etc. Thanks HF. I see no
> good reason why HF thinks that the ILS is a threat, but once again we see that
> money is power. Personally, I will boycott any artist or other product that is
> represented by them. What do you think??
>
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
>
I started doing so as soon as I found out about the shutdown. I have the
right to know what the words are on my tapes and CDs, and if they're not
included, I should have some other place where I can look them up. The ILS
was just such a site. If the industry doesn't want us to know the lyrics they
shouldn't put them iun songs. If they don't want us going elsewhere to find
them, they should put them in the tapes and CDs.
In addition, from what I have read of the copyright laws, archives made for
research purposes are acceptible. That's what the ILS was, according to their
own copyright diaclaimer. As I understand it, that made the site legal.
This is the big company going after the little guy who shouldn't be able to
defend himself and thus crumple under the pressure. I hope the ILS wins out.
If not, well, the music industry won't be getting anymore business from me.
Renshai Warrior
The I-appreciate-copyright-laws-and-their-enforcement-but-this-is-absurd one
Wayne Garvin
>I have the
>right to know what the words are on my tapes and CDs, and if they're not
>included, I should have some other place where I can look them up. The ILS
>was just such a site. If the industry doesn't want us to know the lyrics they
>shouldn't put them iun songs. If they don't want us going elsewhere to find
>them, they should put them in the tapes and CDs.
Exactly the point I've been trying to make in several messages posted here.
Thanks for expressing it more succinctly.
It seems to be the greedy music publishers who want to make lyrics a
tightly-controlled secret that they can divulge to individuals *for a FEE*!
Songwriters don't want their lyrics to be a secret. They have a story to
tell and they work hard to create beautiful lyrics that convey that story.
It makes no sense that they'd want to prevent us from understanding their
words. Of course, they expect and deserve to be paid for their work, and
they *are* paid every time we purchase a recording of their song. But how
can we appreciate the songwriter's work if we can't understand what the
singer is singing and we don't have the lyrics? It's in the songwriter's
best interests to include the lyrics with the recording, but the music
publishers don't allow it.