Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Musical elements?
Frank Zappa
However, I always found it to be lacking musically. Listening to it
for the first time, I thought, "this is a good song, but where's the
chorus, where's the bridge?" They never came.
A great yarn, however there are only two lines of melody:
"The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they called Gitchigumi"
The melody here is repeated throughout all 14 verses, with the
occasional octave variant on the last word of certain verses. I don't
know if anyone else feels this way, but I always skip it on my Gord
CD's.
Tony Meloche
Well, as far as style goes, it is classic "sea chantey": A story
told around a simple melody. There is more than one way to write a
song, and that's the approach Gord decided to take with this one. It
works. I myself think (from a musical standpoint) that
"Ghosts of Cape Horn" is a much better *written* song, though.
Gord researched the ship and it's sinking right after the fact, so
as to write as accurate a song as possible. With the exception of only
two lines in the song, it went down *exactly* as he wrote it - and he
made it rhyme, yet! The two lines that "never happened" are
more-than-understandable "poetic license" to assist in the story
telling. Even then, the song is a valuable historical document, besides
being a wonderful tribute, and good entertainment (and I think it is all
of those things).
The two lines that never happened are:
When suppertime came the old cook come on deck sayin' "Fellas, it's too
rough to feed ya".
- This would not have happened. The ship was in the throes of a
terrible storm from midafternoon on, and it is standard maritime
practice that the cook does *not* cook during such times, the crew
eats from "prepared stores" (sandwiches and bottled drinks, on a
catch-as-catch-can basis). Further, if the cook had ventured out on
deck for *ANY* reason during a storm like that, the crew would have
screamed at him: "Are you crazy?? Get below!!"
At seven PM a main hatchway caved in, he said: "Fellas, it's been good
to know ya".
- a hatchway may have indeed caved in around seven PM, but one of the
points both the Coast Guard and NTSB agreed on in their final reports
was that the Fitz and her crew simply *did not know* how much trouble
the ship was in until the last moment - to them, it was another bad
storm with their ship having a rough time in rough seas - a fairly old
story for any experienced sailor. In other words, all aboard that ship
were counting the minutes until they made the safe harbor of Whitefish
Bay, but none of them - or at least none of the seasoned and experienced
crew - thought they would die that night.
But those two lines take nothing from the essential accuracy and
power of the song.
Tony Meloche
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>occasional octave variant on the last word of certain verses. I don't
>know if anyone else feels this way, but I always skip it on my Gord
>CD's.
You know, I used to feel that way. I found the song monotonous and a bit dull
when it was getting a lot of airplay.
It wasn't until years later, right after seeing the Shipwreck documentary that
I began truly appreciating the song. The historical accuracy of the song is
amazing, especially when you consider how quickly it was written after the
sinking.
After seeing that show, I began to really appreciate what happened that night,
and found a whole new depth to the song. Once I did that, I thought that if
there were more musical variation within the song, that it would detract from
the tale itself. I think with the tone of the music, it dramatizes even more
the event.
The song is a sea chanty of sorts, with the "feel" of the waves within it. It
doesn't have the liveliness of a regular sea chanty, such as Triangle or
Ghosts, but it sets the tone for a memorial of a tragic loss of life.
I still find myself skipping the song when I don't feel like being
introspective, or I am looking to be entertained or uplifted. I do find when I
listen to it now though, I tend to contemplate the tragedy and loss of life,
rather than just hearing a song.
Jenney
Telekidd
have to have a bridge or a chorus--"Wreck" actually is following a much older
form of song construction. GL is often described as a "troubador." The
definition that we all know is essentially "wandering musician"; however, one
of the definitions of the word specifically refers to the lyric poets active in
France from the 11-13th centuries.
These poets and musicians basically told stories--just as, for example,
Chaucer's and (going even further back) Homer's works were originally intended
to be read aloud in front of an audience.
Believe me, I'm not trying to compare GL with Chaucer, Homer or anyone else:
it's just that I think the some of the strongest roots of "EF" come from the
folk tradition, and the folk tradition can trace many roots back to these
wandering minstrels and poets, who essentially went around telling stories:
either via song, via poetry, or reading prose. What I find remarkable about
the song is that GL managed to take these old traditions and seamlessly marry
them to a contemporary event. Yes, it was a pop hit, but, as you say, it
doesn't share many characteristics in a musical sense with a more conventional
pop song.
As for the song itself, I tend to prefer the version I hear on stage today--not
that I don't like the original studio recording. Now, now... wait a second:
before all you lovers of pedal-steel flame me, believe me, it has nothing to do
with that! :) It's just that I like what's happening with the bass and drums
particularly when I hear the song live today: the arrangement is much more
dynamic to my ears than the original recording.
Derek
Ed Mullen
Tony, Jenney, and Derek all said most of what popped into my head on
reading this post. I'd go one further step than Jenney's thought that
"... if there were more musical variation within the song, that it would
detract from the tale itself." The simplicity of the musical structure
virtually forces you to listen to the lyrics (the story). I'd venture
that only musicians or those listeners "into" arrangements would be
intrigued by the instrumentation. In that sense, the song always has
fascinated me on two levels. First and foremost, the story. Secondly,
the way Gord orchestrated the song to bolster the simplistic
construction. And, for those reasons, I have always found it utterly
amazing that the song was ever played ONCE on the radio let alone became
a "pop" hit. Given that most pop music has so little of interest in the
way of lyrics (hey, I'm a story song kinda guy!) I wonder if there was a
full moon, some mystical convergence of the stars, or perhaps mass
hypnosis happening when the song was first released.
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
SheilaB
cook...was not on the Fitz when she went down.
SheilaB
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SheilaB
plain gives me the creeps!! I knew the story when the song first came out
but that haunting music brought(brings) it to life right there in my
livingroom. When I've heard Lightfoot perform it in concert...it did not
bother me.
SheilaB
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Tony Meloche
SheilaB wrote:
>
> Someplace or other I read or heard that the regular cook...the "old"
> cook...was not on the Fitz when she went down.
> SheilaB
Right. The fellow who filled in was an experienced cook, but
not the crews "regular cookie", who sat out that voyage with stomach
ulcers.
Tony Meloche
BrunaZanelli
For years I have felt soooooo guilty
for doing the same thing!
Bru
Cathy Cowette
to the audience that counts. Any Tom, Dick or Harry can sit there and sing
it while strumming along on a guitar, but only a few can captivate the
audience with the tale the song tells. I think a lot of it has to do with
dynamics, building it up to the verse where it sinks, then softening it on
the next verse. If the song is sung without adding dynamics, it becomes very
boring and repetitive.
Usually, before I sing it in public, I give a short introduction to the
song, telling a bit of the story about the ship sinking, how Lightfoot wrote
it within days of the event, and how the song parallels the events quite
accurately. That usually gets their attention. If it doesn't, I do something
that's probably considered very sacrilegious: I skip the two verses that
start out: Does any one know where the love of God goes... and the next one:
Lake Huron rolls, Superior sings.... But that's only if I look out and see
people starting to nod off. :-)
And I play the song in Dropped D, capoed on the 2nd fret to get it within my
voice range.
Cathy
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>
Richard Harison
over 2:30, since it cuts into their commercial time. Fingernails were bitten
in 1965 when Turn! Turn! Turn! ran close to 4 minutes & still went #1.
Whether the fans just gyrated to it or were into the lyrics of King Solomon
is anybody's guess.
WOTEF chronicled an event that was front page news--in the true spirit of
troubadourism.
--
All the Best,
Richard Harison
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>
>
> Tony, Jenney, and Derek all said most of what popped into my head on
> reading this post. I'd go one further step than Jenney's thought that
> "... if there were more musical variation within the song, that it would
> detract from the tale itself." The simplicity of the musical structure
> virtually forces you to listen to the lyrics (the story). I'd venture
> that only musicians or those listeners "into" arrangements would be
> intrigued by the instrumentation. In that sense, the song always has
> fascinated me on two levels. First and foremost, the story. Secondly,
> the way Gord orchestrated the song to bolster the simplistic
> construction. And, for those reasons, I have always found it utterly
> amazing that the song was ever played ONCE on the radio let alone became
> a "pop" hit. Given that most pop music has so little of interest in the
> way of lyrics (hey, I'm a story song kinda guy!) I wonder if there was a
> full moon, some mystical convergence of the stars, or perhaps mass
> hypnosis happening when the song was first released.
>
> --
> Ed Mullen
> http://edmullen.net
>
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Sundown44
>know if anyone else feels this way, but I always skip it on my Gord
>CD's.
>
Maybe I'm unusual, but this is one song I usually go to immediately. It's one
of my favorite Lightfoot songs. Am I wrong, or is this the only one of his
songs to ever be nominated for a Grammy award?
Maddi
Jen
Me too. I confess to say it is one of my very least favorite songs. I can
appreciate the story, and I can feel it and the sorrow, but I don't like to
listen to the song. Either I just really don't like the song, or it's just too
depressing for me. Not sure.
Jen
Ed Mullen
I think that was some sort of testament to the music.
Ed Mullen
Well, me too. If I'm in the mood to actually focus on the music, to
really spend brain power (as limited as mine is) on a tune. It's not
got that catchy "verse-chorus-verse" thingie formula going on. Well,
what I said before - it demands that you listen. Or, perhaps, as other
responses have indicated, that you just go way because you can't.
Roger Guinn
to the story itself, go out and find a young couple in love who have never
heard the song. Then, during the midst of a terrific thunderstorm and
Tornado warning (not watch), play them the song. Watch their reactions.
It worked for me nearly 30 years ago. Unfortunately, we broke up later when
she couldn't stop giggling every time she heard Farron Young start "Hello,
Walls"
Just as well.
Roger
Ed Mullen wrote:
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Roger W Guinn
Roswell, NM
the spam is getting out of hand...
knock off the bull to reply!
Ed Mullen
after that missive? Realy, now, what am I gonna say? Golly gee Wily.
Or something.
But, gotta tell ya, I sure do love that you survived. And I sure do
love that you shared. Thanks, buddy. And thanks to the current Missus.
Indeed. Thanks to her. Give 'er a kiss, eh? ;-) And tell her from
me that I understand what she's put up with. For me it's "Saint
Sharman." Don't know your sweety's name. But, me 'ats off to "Sweety
Gwuinn."
Ed
Telekidd
the "Tom, Dick or Harry" category of performers. I play it in A, but capo'd on
the third fret, as going one fret up tends to suit my limited vocal range a
little better.
My introduction to the song is generally along these lines: "Okay...see this?
This is a Taylor 855. It's the coolest 12-string ever, okay? Don't know
anything about guitars? Don't worry...neither do I. Just indulge me by oohing
and aahing over how beautiful it is. Trust me--this is one awesome 12-string.
And there are certain songs that are just MADE to played on a 12-string. This
is one of them. It's called "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald." Okay, okay,
it's a long song. But if anyone is caught nodding off, your thumbscrews will
be tightened, and I'll start the song again from the beginning. Got it?
Great...here we go!"
Works like a charm every time! :)
Derek
Tamsin
> amazing that the song was ever played ONCE on the radio let alone became
> a "pop" hit. Given that most pop music has so little of interest in the
> way of lyrics (hey, I'm a story song kinda guy!) I wonder if there was a
> full moon, some mystical convergence of the stars, or perhaps mass
> hypnosis happening when the song was first released.
>
> --
> Ed Mullen
> http://edmullen.net
Well, first this kinda shows that a good story is a good story. And I like
to hope that there are still some people out there who don't care what the
genre is...
Much better this song about a real happening than someone singing that he
lost his baby so he'll have to be good so he can see his baby when he leaves
this world...
>
Tony Meloche
Yes. And "Wreck" didn't have two godawful sopranos wailing like
banshees in the background, either!
Steven G.
string guitar. Usually I like flat picking this song on the 12 string
guitar, with the capo on the 2nd fret, and in the key of A. It has a
great sound.
I tried the Taylor guitars at a local music store one time, and it
certainly has a great sound. I tried a 6 string guitar, I wished they
had a 12 string guitar so I can try out. The sound from my Yamaha
FG-410-12A is great.
I really like the original over the new one off of GGII.
Steven
Peter T.
Telekidd wrote:
>
> I must admit, I love playing the song, although I suppose I probably fall into
> the "Tom, Dick or Harry" category of performers. I play it in A, but capo'd on
> the third fret, as going one fret up tends to suit my limited vocal range a
> little better.
>
> My introduction to the song is generally along these lines: "Okay...see this?
> This is a Taylor 855. It's the coolest 12-string ever, okay? Don't know
> anything about guitars? Don't worry...neither do I. Just indulge me by oohing
> and aahing over how beautiful it is. Trust me--this is one awesome 12-string.
> And there are certain songs that are just MADE to played on a 12-string. This
> is one of them. It's called "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald." Okay, okay,
> it's a long song. But if anyone is caught nodding off, your thumbscrews will
> be tightened, and I'll start the song again from the beginning. Got it?
> Great...here we go!"
>
> Works like a charm every time! :)
> Derek
>
>
Gee Derek Such humility, compassion and empthy for your audience With
qualities like that Cathy will be bowing at you feet either that that or
Cathy will show you how wrong the laws of physics can be. Thus the
humble little Taylor 885 (which I suspect is a copy made in China under
licence to the Taiwanese) will prove prove to be an aid to your spinal
posture and body shape:-)
Warmest Regards from a very upright and posture perfect Peter T
Ed Mullen
What? You mean you don't love those classic country hits like: "I've
Been Carrying a Torch For You So Long That I've Burned a Great Big Hole
in My Heart?"
Char
Are" !!
and the Roy Clark classic - "Thank God and Greyhound She's Gone!"
lol
Char
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Tony Meloche
As titles for CW songs go, my favorites are "I'd Rather Have a Bottle
in Front of Me Than a Frontal Lobotomy", and the classic: "You're the
Reason Our Kids are Ugly".
Jen
>Been Carrying a Torch For You So Long That I've Burned a Great Big Hole
>in My Heart?"
Or my fav - (Get Your Tongue Out Of My Mouth,) I'm Kissing You Goodbye!!
Jen
Doug
>> You mean you don't love those classic country hits like: "I've
>>Been Carrying a Torch For You So Long That I've Burned a Great Big Hole
>>in My Heart?"
'I've Got Tears In My Ears, From Lying On My Back, Crying Over You'
Doug
"When love is true......there is no truer occupation"
Telekidd
I was hoping someone would mention this one! My fave too! :)
Derek
Diana Gregory
>
> Out of his entire repertoire of songs, Gord holds this one above all.
> However, I always found it to be lacking musically. Listening to it
> for the first time, I thought, "this is a good song, but where's the
> chorus, where's the bridge?" They never came.
>
> A great yarn, however there are only two lines of melody:
>
> "The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
> Of the big lake they called Gitchigumi"
>
> The melody here is repeated throughout all 14 verses, with the
> occasional octave variant on the last word of certain verses. I don't
> know if anyone else feels this way, but I always skip it on my Gord
> CD's.
My take on this is that it goes back to folk traditions that you
find when you look at the 'Child ballads', for example. Not many
of them have actual 'chorus' areas, or bridges - at best they are
two-line stories, with a repeated set of lines to make the verses
rhyme (Cruel Mother, etc.). And it is very like Yarmouth Castle
also.
Diana
Hershey102
I don't recall Gord saying that. His respect for the victims' families is
evident but I don't believe he has ever claimed that the song is special
musically. Wasn't he surprised by the success of the song after coming back
from one of his trips to the backcountry?
Duff
EN
>
> As titles for CW songs go, my favorites are "I'd Rather Have a Bottle
> in Front of Me Than a Frontal Lobotomy", and the classic: "You're the
> Reason Our Kids are Ugly".
>
> Tony Meloche
A friend of mine does a song called "It's Hell To Wake Up Sober In
Nebraska". Not sure who wrote it, but it's pretty funny. Just thought I'd
mention it since this thread has degenerated so much :^)
Ed N.
EN
376bdede.02090...@posting.google.com, "Frank Zappa"
<fran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Out of his entire repertoire of songs, Gord holds this one above all.
> However, I always found it to be lacking musically. Listening to it
> for the first time, I thought, "this is a good song, but where's the
> chorus, where's the bridge?" They never came.
>
> A great yarn, however there are only two lines of melody:
>
> "The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
> Of the big lake they called Gitchigumi"
>
> The melody here is repeated throughout all 14 verses, with the
> occasional octave variant on the last word of certain verses. I don't
> know if anyone else feels this way, but I always skip it on my Gord
> CD's.
It's funny. The first thing I thought of when I read this was "why would
someone using Frank Zappa as a username complain about Gord not using
'normal' musical style?" :^)
Just wondering
Ed N.
(who happens to like Zappa)
Andy T.
>someone using Frank Zappa as a username complain about Gord not using
>'normal' musical style?"
D'OH!!!!
good point!
andy
Tamsin
> lol
> Char
>
You're Gone"? Bet he laughed all the way to the bank...
;ynn
Tamsin
> >
> What? You mean you don't love those classic country hits like: "I've
> Been Carrying a Torch For You So Long That I've Burned a Great Big Hole
> in My Heart?"
>
> --
> Ed Mullen
> http://edmullen.net
> "Ive Got Tears in my Ears from Lyin' on my Back in my Bed, While I Cried
over you.' has always been one of my favorites, too.
lynn
Roger Guinn
the song....
And as he stated in the Live Album, "the Trailways Drivers took up a collection
to bring her back..."
Tamsin wrote:
--
Ed Mullen
Char wrote:
And let us not forget John Denver's
"Here's to the girls of Toledo, Ohio
I spent a week there one day."
Tamsin
"and here's to the dogs of Toledo, Ohio..."
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Tom Traubert
wrote:
> And let us not forget John Denver's
>
> "Here's to the girls of Toledo, Ohio
> I spent a week there one day."
Randy Sparks (founder of the New Christy Minstrels) actually wrote the
song.
--
Tom
CAMSTER777
real toe tapper....
cam.
Sputnik
Sputnik
Called me by My name"...especially the tacked-on last line.
When the song's author said it was the "perfect country song", Coe wrote him
& said it WASN'T the "perfect country song", because he hadn't said a thing
about mama...or trucks...or trains...or prison...or getting drunk. So the
guy tacked on the last verse....
I was drunk the day my mom got out of prison
And I went to pick her up in the rain
But before I could get to the station in my pickup truck
she got runned over by an danged ole train.
And, of course, there are the immortal Giesenslaw brothers...I once heard
their version of Kenny Rogers' "Ruby, Don't take Your Love to Town". The
last verse was sorta like....
She's leavin', now, 'cause I just heard the truck come to the door
with five big men to load her in, and they coulda used three more.
And if I could move, I'd jump and sing, and drink the bottle down
Oh Chubby.....please take your love to town.
Don't turn that truck around!
-Gary
Ed Mullen
>One NIGHT, Ed, I spent a week there one night.
>
>"and here's to the dogs of Toledo, Ohio..."
>
>
>
<LOL> Well, now that you mention it, you're partly right, and I'm
partly right. It was "And here's to the dogs of Toledo, Ohio" but it
was also "I spent a week there one DAY." I won't reprint the entire
song but you can see it here:
http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/SongUnid/8154BDDF810DB8DF48256885000ED94D
However, given the gist of the song, I think maybe it should have been
as you said, Lynn - "I spent a week there one NIGHT."
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
P.S. The link above attributes the lyrics to Randy Sparkes.
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>
Ed Mullen
Sputnik wrote:
Excellent. Here's a link that talk's about this. Steve Goodman wrote
"You Never Even Called me by My name", Coe wrote his answer song back to
Goodman, and Goodman recorded the entire thing. I have it around here
somewhere (dang cobwebs ... geez, look at the size of that spider! ...
hmm, maybe I'll look tomorrow when there's some daylight in the basement)
http://users.aol.com/acushen/songs.html#CALLED
Joe Cline
wrote:
>Did you know that Greyhound sued him for the title "Thank God and Greyhound
>You're Gone"? Bet he laughed all the way to the bank...
Harry Chapin did a song called Take the Grayhound (or something close)
and said that the bus company called him, wanting to use it for an ad.
Have you listened to the song? he asked them, The chorus goes Take the
Grayhound, it's a dog of a way to get around.
Oops!
jc
Tamsin
right, then that is all the authority I need. ;))
>
http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/SongUnid/8154BDDF810DB8DF48256885000E
Tamsin
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> How could anyone not mention the David Allen Coe classic "You Never Even
> Called me by My name"...
Written by Steve Goodman...
Tamsin
Yep, I always wondered why they sued Roy Clark and not Harry?
lynn
Ron Hardin
both songs I like
http://members.fortunecity.com/rhhardin1/fish.ra (325k)
if FortuneCity won't let you have it, try clicking it under
``Interesting Music'' at misc real audio files page
http://members.fortunecity.com/rhhardin1/index.html
so they can get an ad in.
Sometimes they let you have it directly though.
--
Ron Hardin
rhha...@mindspring.com
On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.
Ed Mullen
Joe Cline wrote:
<LOL> Yeah, kind of like Pro Wrestling years ago using Bruce
Springsteen's Born In The USA as the wrestlers entered the ring.
Cracked me up. Because, of course, the same question popped into my
head: "Hey! Haven't you bozos *listened* to the rest of the song?"
Sputnik
indeed, credit Steve for it. I gotta try a search for the Giesenslaw
brothers now.....
-Gary
Sputnik
Sputnik
Ah, I found it...it was Canada's own Alien Rebels!
http://www.nervous.co.uk/shindex.htm?http://www.nervous.co.uk/reviews/areb00
1.htm
EN
Must resist ... Must resist ... Must resist .... Maybe it was because he was
a folk singer and had no money? Damn! Couldn't resist
On 9/8/02 7:49 AM, in article PHHe9.12872$xm.37...@twister.nyroc.rr.com,
EN
<e...@edmullen.net> wrote:
>
>
> Sputnik wrote:
>
>> How could anyone not mention the David Allen Coe classic "You Never Even
>> Called me by My name"...especially the tacked-on last line.
>> When the song's author said it was the "perfect country song", Coe wrote him
>> & said it WASN'T the "perfect country song", because he hadn't said a thing
>> about mama...or trucks...or trains...or prison...or getting drunk. So the
>> guy tacked on the last verse....
>
>> -Gary
>>
>>
> Excellent. Here's a link that talk's about this. Steve Goodman wrote
> "You Never Even Called me by My name", Coe wrote his answer song back to
> Goodman, and Goodman recorded the entire thing. I have it around here
> somewhere (dang cobwebs ... geez, look at the size of that spider! ...
> hmm, maybe I'll look tomorrow when there's some daylight in the basement)
>
> http://users.aol.com/acushen/songs.html#CALLED
Ooh, ooh. Trivia. Anyone know who co-wrote the song with Steve but refused
to take credit because he thought the song was "goofy"?
Richard Harison
John Allan Cameron's version when I did lights for him in 1974, I thought of
additional lyrics to make sure *all* the elements of country music were
included. I never thought it was "goofy."
--
All the Best,
Richard Harison
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EN
<EN@don't.spam.on.me> wrote:
Since I didn't see any takers, I guess I'll answer my own question ... "You
Never Even Call Me By My Name" was co-written by Steve Goodman and John
Prine. Prine didn't want his name on the song because he thought it was
goofy, so when it became a hit and made Goodman some money he bought Prine a
vintage jukebox as a form of compensation. They were pretty close friends.
And that, as they say, is the rest of the story ...
Ed N.
Sputnik
Tom Traubert
EN <EN@don't.spam.on.me> wrote:
Amazing---"goofy" to a man who wrote a song about Sabu and another about
Happy Enchiladas.
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Tom