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Lance Krug

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Jun 22, 2005, 12:09:35 AM6/22/05
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I know Gordon's had many many great songs, but you know all
great artists have some songs that just don't go anywhere.

Anyone want to tell me which of Gordon's songs you feel
just weren't up to par?

Just curious.

LK

Ed Mullen

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Jun 22, 2005, 9:35:29 AM6/22/05
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Scott Thomas wrote:
> This one is easy...Anything for Love
>
> Scott
> "Lance Krug" <lanc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Geez! That's one of my favorites from that CD!

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Scott Thomas

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Jun 22, 2005, 6:23:42 AM6/22/05
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This one is easy...Anything for Love

Scott
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Cathy Cowette

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Jun 22, 2005, 5:19:54 PM6/22/05
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There are only two Lightfoot songs I don't care for: May I and Something
Very Special.

Cathy
http://www.cathycowette.com


J...@rover.com

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Jun 22, 2005, 10:47:46 PM6/22/05
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Its definately not his best known. Sung at the Macintyre Arena in Shumacher
Ont. Porcupine Pete. Cute but definately his worst.

JT

Jack Gillen

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Jun 23, 2005, 12:00:13 AM6/23/05
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"Lance Krug" <lanc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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I haven't heard 'em all, but I've never heard a bad Gordon Lightfoot song.
At first I wasn't too wild about "Restless," but now I think it's The Single
Greatest Song Ever Written In The History Of Music By Anybody Anywhere.

Peace,
Jack

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"If you understood everything I say, you'd be me!" --- Miles Davis


Ed Mullen

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Jun 23, 2005, 12:24:09 AM6/23/05
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Jack Gillen wrote:

> "Lance Krug" <lanc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:3w5ue.7227$hK3....@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
>>I know Gordon's had many many great songs, but you know all
>>great artists have some songs that just don't go anywhere.
>>
>>Anyone want to tell me which of Gordon's songs you feel
>>just weren't up to par?
>>
>>Just curious.
>>
>>LK
>
>
> I haven't heard 'em all, but I've never heard a bad Gordon Lightfoot song.
> At first I wasn't too wild about "Restless," but now I think it's The Single
> Greatest Song Ever Written In The History Of Music By Anybody Anywhere.
>
> Peace,
> Jack
>

Interesting to contemplate the comparative adjectives being used in this
thread. The subject mentions "worst" songs. And you've mentioned not
hearing a "bad" Gord song. What is a less-than-typical Lightfoot song
might be some other writer's shining moment. So, "worst" for Gord, at
least in my book, still isn't "bad" compared to the general world of
songs. So I agree, I haven't heard a "bad" Gord song. Maybe a couple
I'm not all that crazy about but not "bad" in the grand scheme of things.

Of course, I haven't yet mentioned my wife's reaction whenever she hears
Blackberry Wine start up. I had to buy a new preamp with a remote
control just so I could shut it off more quickly. :-D

He's not dead, he's electroencephalographically challenged.

Lance Krug

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Jun 23, 2005, 12:24:21 AM6/23/05
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J...@Rover.com wrote:

Wow, never heard that one, but am looking forward to it someday
if it ever makes it to CD.

Thanks for the input

Lance

Lance Krug

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Jun 23, 2005, 12:27:36 AM6/23/05
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Jack Gillen wrote:

> "Lance Krug" <lanc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:3w5ue.7227$hK3....@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
>>I know Gordon's had many many great songs, but you know all
>>great artists have some songs that just don't go anywhere.
>>
>>Anyone want to tell me which of Gordon's songs you feel
>>just weren't up to par?
>>
>>Just curious.
>>
>>LK
>
>
> I haven't heard 'em all, but I've never heard a bad Gordon Lightfoot song.
> At first I wasn't too wild about "Restless," but now I think it's The Single
> Greatest Song Ever Written In The History Of Music By Anybody Anywhere.
>
> Peace,
> Jack
>

Thanks for the input and Restless is a good song. "Single Greatest Song
Ever Written In The History of Music By Anybody Anywhere?" Now that's
someone that every artist would like to have in his or her corner.

Peace To You

Lance

Jack Gillen

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Jun 23, 2005, 12:32:27 AM6/23/05
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"Ed Mullen" <e...@edmullen.net> wrote in message
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> Of course, I haven't yet mentioned my wife's reaction whenever she hears
> Blackberry Wine start up. I had to buy a new preamp with a remote control
> just so I could shut it off more quickly. :-D
>

I like the song ("Blackberry Wine"), but the video?...Oy....

Ed Mullen

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Jun 23, 2005, 12:38:49 AM6/23/05
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Jack Gillen wrote:
> "Ed Mullen" <e...@edmullen.net> wrote in message
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>
>
>>Of course, I haven't yet mentioned my wife's reaction whenever she hears
>>Blackberry Wine start up. I had to buy a new preamp with a remote control
>>just so I could shut it off more quickly. :-D
>>
>
>
> I like the song ("Blackberry Wine"), but the video?...Oy....
>
> Peace,
> Jack
>

I must admit I have never seen a Gord video except for Inspiration Lady.
Hey, I didn't even know about videos until about 1995!

If knees were backwards, what would chairs look like?

Ed Mullen

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Jun 23, 2005, 12:42:33 AM6/23/05
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Lance Krug wrote:

I gotta agree with Jack, that song is one of those that keeps creeping
into your consciousness until you can't help but appreciate its beauty,
sophistication, and scope. It actually is one of my favorite songs to
hear him do live these days. I kinda think of it as the Canadian RR
Trilogy and Early Morning Rain all grown up and contemplative. Suppose
I ougtta get around to learning it one of these days. Sigh. So many
songs, so little time.

A Messy Kitchen Is A Happy Kitchen And This Kitchen Is Delirious

sj

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Jun 23, 2005, 1:06:10 AM6/23/05
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:23:42 -0400, "Scott Thomas"
<scot...@adelphia.net> wrote:

>This one is easy...Anything for Love
>

Humm. One of my favorite BEST songs. AND when "What are Gord's BEST
songs" was discussed awhile back, "Anything for Love" was one of the
top runners.

The real worst song is, of course, "the Wreck of the Edmund
Fitzgerald." Unless it is "Beautiful..."

-sj

Ed Mullen

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Jun 23, 2005, 2:00:32 AM6/23/05
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sj wrote:

And you think those are "worst" (I assume by that you mean "bad") for
what reasons? I mean, it's ok to say anything here but it does help if
you provide some basis for your opinions. I am pretty darned dense!

Harmony of aim, not identity of conclusion, is the secret of sympathetic
life. - Ralph Waldo Emerson

sj

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Jun 23, 2005, 2:22:42 AM6/23/05
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:00:32 -0400, Ed Mullen <e...@edmullen.net> wrote:

>sj wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:23:42 -0400, "Scott Thomas"
>> <scot...@adelphia.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>This one is easy...Anything for Love
>>>
>>
>>
>> Humm. One of my favorite BEST songs. AND when "What are Gord's BEST
>> songs" was discussed awhile back, "Anything for Love" was one of the
>> top runners.
>>
>> The real worst song is, of course, "the Wreck of the Edmund
>> Fitzgerald." Unless it is "Beautiful..."
>>
>> -sj
>
>And you think those are "worst" (I assume by that you mean "bad") for
>what reasons? I mean, it's ok to say anything here but it does help if
>you provide some basis for your opinions. I am pretty darned dense!

Hi Ed

It is enormously interesting to me that you pick my "opinion" out of
the whole bunch posted so far, to ask me to document my thoughts.

It seems a bad habit of mine to go into a discussion and shut the
whole thing down. I don't know why that is.

Perhaps you are curious about my picks, and maybe your question is
really, "Why do you pick those songs in particular.?"

"Wreck" just drones on me - the lyrics and the overall sound.
"Beautiful" is so trite to me. Indeed, I have told some women that
they were beautiful, and I work today with a kid who thinks that's a
successful pickup line. It just doesn't cut it for me. I think "You
look great in that dress" is more compelling.

But that's just me ...

After all, I am just tossing out my opinion of the "worst" Lightfoot
song, not the "worst" song ever.

Otherwise, I would have probably gone with, "Who Let the Dogs Out" or
any other piece of rap crap.

All of Gord's "songs" are heads and shoulders above most of what is
consumed in today's "music market."

(In my opinion.)

-sj

-sj

M4R1N4

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Jun 23, 2005, 3:01:42 AM6/23/05
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There aren't many that even qualify as "worst" or "bad" Lightfoot songs
to me, but Beautiful always makes me hit the >> button as soon as
possible. Somehow I can't hardly stand it!


Marina, who happens to like Blackberry Wine, both the song and the
beverage...

Char

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Jun 23, 2005, 6:40:29 AM6/23/05
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JT - geeze I never thought I'd hear those words on this forum! I'm talking
about Shumacher and Macintyre Arena!
lol
My parents are from Timmins and they had their wedding reception at the
arena in 1951!
lol
too funny.
I agree about the "Porcupine Pete" being cute but I'd have to say "Love and
Maple Syrup" is one song I really don't like.
Char

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Ed Mullen

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Jun 23, 2005, 4:39:44 PM6/23/05
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sj wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:00:32 -0400, Ed Mullen <e...@edmullen.net> wrote:
>
>
>>sj wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:23:42 -0400, "Scott Thomas"
>>><scot...@adelphia.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>This one is easy...Anything for Love
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Humm. One of my favorite BEST songs. AND when "What are Gord's BEST
>>>songs" was discussed awhile back, "Anything for Love" was one of the
>>>top runners.
>>>
>>>The real worst song is, of course, "the Wreck of the Edmund
>>>Fitzgerald." Unless it is "Beautiful..."
>>>
>>>-sj
>>
>>And you think those are "worst" (I assume by that you mean "bad") for
>>what reasons? I mean, it's ok to say anything here but it does help if
>>you provide some basis for your opinions. I am pretty darned dense!
>
>
> Hi Ed
>
> It is enormously interesting to me that you pick my "opinion" out of
> the whole bunch posted so far, to ask me to document my thoughts.
>
> It seems a bad habit of mine to go into a discussion and shut the
> whole thing down. I don't know why that is.
>
> Perhaps you are curious about my picks, and maybe your question is
> really, "Why do you pick those songs in particular.?"

No offense meant. It just struck me that your choices are two of his
best known songs so I was wondering what your reasons were.

>
> "Wreck" just drones on me - the lyrics and the overall sound.
> "Beautiful" is so trite to me. Indeed, I have told some women that
> they were beautiful, and I work today with a kid who thinks that's a
> successful pickup line. It just doesn't cut it for me. I think "You
> look great in that dress" is more compelling.
>
> But that's just me ...

I always thought that Beautiful was a great song because it takes lyrics
that could be considered trite, maudlin, or overly simplistic and
couples them with an exquisite melody and arrangement. I still think
the lyrics, when simply read out of the context of the song, don't fare
very well. Certainly not nearly as well as other of his lyrics. But
the overall result is something that works very well for me.

And it's kind of the opposite of The Wreck which has less-than-inspiring
music and fabulous lyrics. Again, for me, the overall result is greater
than its parts.

And this discussion is a great example of one thing that makes art so
interesting: people can view the same thing very differently. ;-)

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looked at the tire I noticed your cat. Sorry!

J...@rover.com

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Jun 23, 2005, 11:10:23 PM6/23/05
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I guess you CAN'T take the boy from the country. )

JT

J...@rover.com

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Jun 24, 2005, 11:22:22 AM6/24/05
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or is it the country from the boy?

Andy T.

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Jun 24, 2005, 8:09:14 PM6/24/05
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I have to agree about Beautiful - it's one song that I've never really
cared much for. Sometimes when I find myself listening to it when I
can't change the song, I find myself substituting "pitiful" for
"beautiful" in my mind as I listen to it.

A few months ago some asked for your list of GL favorites here, and as
a joke I put my least favorites down instead, which were:

My Pony Won't Go
Songs the Minstrel Sang
Anything For Love
May I
Wild Strawberries
Canary Yellow Canoe
The Gypsy
Long Thin Dawn
You Just Gotta Be

-Andy

Ed Mullen

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Jun 24, 2005, 8:21:56 PM6/24/05
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I find these threads about least faves very interesting. We're all fans
here and yet, in this thread, it's fascinating how one person finds a
song irritating or less-than-a-stellar effort and others find the same
song on their favorites list. One thing for certain, it sure does
illustrate how personal music is.

Maybe the question should have been: What song don't you like but how
can you defend its artistic merit?

I say that because, even though there are songs in the catalog that I
don't care for (will skip over), I can still listen to them and find
something interesting from a musical standpoint. So, I've never really
found any song of Gord's to be one that I could describe as "bad." Ok,
sure, maybe "Geez, that one was a quickie!" Kinda like when your
favorite actor stars in a film that makes you say: "Geez, I guess he
did that one for the money!"

Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. - Pablo Picasso

ran...@telus.net

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Jun 26, 2005, 9:37:11 PM6/26/05
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Now I'm hooked in on this one. I once heard Tom Jones and Jan Peerce
(opera singer) in conversation and Tom asks: " Jan, do you know the one
thing that opera and rock & roll have in common? Answer: MILLIONS HATE
BOTH." When my favoutite Lightfoot song yesterday was "Somewhere
USA" and today it's "Stone Cold Sober" it's all all a blur of rainbow
colors when I gaze into the spectrum and try to come up with a "bad"
Lightfoot song. On a more personal note I don't think a musical genius
is capable of writing something bad. In the ears of many there probably
are some less favourable songs but a significant find that I've
discovered over the years is that sometimes when a less obscure song
surfaces, and you may not necessarily have it on the top of your pile
of favourites at the time, but when you hear it, an era enfolds;
flashbacks occur, and now that one is at the top of the pile. I guess
it comes with being a forty year Lighthead. As a transporter, music is
a very powerful medium and no matter what Lightfoot song is playing, I
always end up on a more joyous level of elevation, much higher than the
one on which I would normally reside. Ron Jones.

drb...@sbcglobal.net

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Jun 27, 2005, 1:17:11 PM6/27/05
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in article 3w5ue.7227$hK3....@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net, Lance Krug
at lanc...@earthlink.net wrote on 6/21/05 11:09 PM:

> Anyone want to tell me which of Gordon's songs you feel
> just weren't up to par?
>
> Just curious.
>
> LK

"A Lesson in Love" gets my vote.

donnie

johnfowles

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Jun 27, 2005, 8:34:39 PM6/27/05
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Unless I am dreaming I do believe I recently saw somewhere a picture of
a bar of "Lightfoot" soap that Doug had saved a picture of bu i hink he
said he did not recall from where.
I thought it was on here but a google groups search failed to turn it
up but I did try Anne OK
In researching (googling) for some pictures for a posting at corfid
at:-
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=003267
I chanced upon the "lightfoot" range of soaps (one type...Lightfoot's
Pure Pine Gentlemen's Athletic Soap) in two sizes box of 4 or a larger
single bar looking if I recall correctly like Doug's picture.
see this picture of the larger (singl)e bar
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0006U6H8S.01-A1M5IBBHZBOPXI._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

John Fowles
And if you dont say may I then Ill pass the cake around
And I wont give you any, but you wont make a sound
You dont eat soap, anyhow
from:-
everybody's (min anyhow) unfavo(u)rite gordsong:-
http://gordon-lightfoot-lyrics.wonderlyrics.com/May-I.html

Arnold Gallagher

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Jun 27, 2005, 11:38:18 PM6/27/05
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Lance Krug <lanc...@earthlink.net> wrote in news:3w5ue.7227$hK3.1048
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> I know Gordon's had many many great songs, but you know all
> great artists have some songs that just don't go anywhere.

If There's a Reason and If Children Had Wings--two snoozers that break up
what is otherwise my all-time favorite album, and allow Waiting For You
into the top spot because although its top 8 aren't quite as good, all 10
WFY songs are excellent.

Ed Mullen

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Jun 28, 2005, 12:25:24 AM6/28/05
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Arnold Gallagher wrote:

I really like these threads for the surprises they bring. I know there
are as many opinions about music as there are people. But, umm, I've
never heard "If Children Had Wings" described as a "snoozer"!

Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense.

Jack Gillen

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"Arnold Gallagher" <arnoldg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Waiting For You" is my favorite GL album, and "Restless" is my favorite
song of all time by anybody, period. I mention this in the "Worst Songs"
thread because my initial reaction to "Restless" was, "Well, they can't all
be gems..."

Blair Barondes

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Jun 30, 2005, 11:37:10 PM6/30/05
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If There's A Reason, I definitely agree with you on!
What a very interesting thread, but I will now require hypnosis to erase the
thought of "you're so pitiful" instead of "you're so beautiful". This is a
dangerous newsgroup afterall! (Oh, and the LIghtfoot Soap is really cool, a
friend bought me some for my birthday!).

-Blair

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Doug Cunningly

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Jul 5, 2005, 12:23:19 PM7/5/05
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Lance Krug <lanc...@earthlink.net> wrote in news:3w5ue.7227$hK3.1048
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> I know Gordon's had many many great songs, but you know all
> great artists have some songs that just don't go anywhere.
>

> Anyone want to tell me which of Gordon's songs you feel
> just weren't up to par?
>
> Just curious.
>
> LK

I came across an early album, maybe 61 or so? It sounded like the label
didn't know what to do with him. It's a hodgepodge of a number of different
styles, but there was one that sounded just like the crap that Bobby Rydell
used to put out in Philadelphia at around the same time.

I can't find the cd right now, so no title... sorry

Doug

Doug Cunningly

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Jul 5, 2005, 12:25:04 PM7/5/05
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Lance Krug <lanc...@earthlink.net> wrote in news:3w5ue.7227$hK3.1048
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> I know Gordon's had many many great songs, but you know all
> great artists have some songs that just don't go anywhere.
>
> Anyone want to tell me which of Gordon's songs you feel
> just weren't up to par?
>
> Just curious.
>
> LK

Drawing a blank on the title, but the one with the kids games in it from (I
think) "If you could read my mind." That one was bad then and has only gotten
worse with age.

Doug Cunningly

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Jul 5, 2005, 12:38:12 PM7/5/05
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Doug Cunningly <lo...@valhalla.org> wrote in
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Oh yeah... Finders Keepers

Auburn Annie

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Jul 5, 2005, 1:14:06 PM7/5/05
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That's "May I" - lyrics below:

May I (Did She Mention My Name) 2:19


Finders, keepers, losers, weepers
Ring around the rosy and I'll catch you if I can
And if you don't say may I, then you'll have to start again
But first you must indulge me and count from one to ten
Let the game begin
I adore you when you touch me
Pin the tail upon the donkey, you will surely win
And if you don't say may I, then I'll pass the cake around
And I won't give you any, but you won't make a sound
You don't eat soap, anyhow

Red light, green light, blue light, yellow light
You can take three giant steps or a baby step will do
But if you don't say may I, then I'll march you out the door
Where you'll be contemplating the numbers one to four
I hope you're keeping score

Cause if you don't say may I, then I'll get you with the hose
And spoil your Sunday clothes Will it please you if I tease you
While you're at the spindry, I'll pass the pie around
But you won't make a sound
You don't eat blackbird anyhow

There's four and twenty reasons why it can't be wrong
How long have you been gone
Finders, keepers, losers, weepers
Peter, Peter, pumpkin eater
Wear your sneakers around sound sleepers

Ed Mullen

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Jul 5, 2005, 3:02:58 PM7/5/05
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He MUST have been on acid when he wrote that one. Geez, my head is
spinning just reading the lyrics.

CatWoman

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Jul 8, 2005, 10:26:03 AM7/8/05
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IIRC, "May I" was written for his daughter, like "Fine as Fine".

dg

Ed Mullen

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Jul 8, 2005, 12:57:32 PM7/8/05
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CatWoman wrote:

> IIRC, "May I" was written for his daughter, like "Fine as Fine".
>
> dg
>

Ok. Then it wasn't acid. :-D

CatWoman

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From: Ed Mullen <e...@edmullen.net> -

CatWoman wrote:
> IIRC, "May I" was written for his daughter, like "Fine as Fine".

Ok. Then it wasn't acid. :-D

Snerk!

Can't remember where I learned that - may have even been on this group!
May have also been a time when he played it live, and introduced it,
or some interview - CRS, y'know...

dg

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