Led Zeppelin were NOT a blues rock band
Raja, The Great
They are hard to categorize because they were not completely hard rock
either. They were heavy metal neither. It is silly to categorize a
band which did all sorts of music.
They made 84 songs on their eight studio albums + leftover compilation
CODA. Out of that only these songs are considered as blues rock (by
wiki).
You can get a genre classification of every song of theirs starting
with their first song Good Times Bad Times
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Times_Bad_Times
Songs listed as blues rock
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1. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You --- Led Zeppelin I
2. You Shook Me (cover)
3. Dazed and Confused
4. I Can't Quit You Baby (cover)
5. How Many More Times
6. The Lemon Song --- Led Zeppelin II
7. Heartbreaker
8. Bring It On Home
9. Since I've Been Loving You --- Led Zeppelin III
10. Hats Off to (Roy) Harper
11. When the Levee Breaks ---- Led Zeppelin IV
12. Dancing Days ---- Houses Of The Holy
13. In My Time of Dying ---- Physical Graffiti
14. Black Country Woman
15. For Your Life --- Presence
16. Tea for One
17. We're Gonna Groove (cover) ---- Coda
18. Poor Tom
19. Travelling Riverside Blues (their best
blues song ever)
So out of 84 songs in 9 albums, only 19 were blues rock. And if you
exclude covers then only 16 out of 81 = 20% of their songs.
Manco
think in the end Led Zep were more of a "Hammer of the Gods" then
blues-rock.
who?
> They were not blues rock because they didn't do enough blues rock.
> They are hard to categorize because they were not completely hard rock
> either. They were heavy metal neither. It is silly to categorize a
> band which did all sorts of music.
>
> They made 84 songs on their eight studio albums + leftover compilation
> CODA. Out of that only these songs are considered as blues rock (by
> wiki).
>
> You can get a genre classification of every song of theirs starting
>
> Songs listed as blues rock
> ----------------------------------------
> 1. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You --- Led Zeppelin I
> 2. You Shook Me (cover)
> 3. Dazed and Confused
> 4. I Can't Quit You Baby (cover)
> 5. How Many More Times
>
> 6. The Lemon Song --- Led Zeppelin II
> 7. Heartbreaker
> 8. Bring It On Home
>
> 9. Since I've Been Loving You --- Led Zeppelin III
> 10. Hats Off to (Roy) Harper
>
> 11. When the Levee Breaks ---- Led Zeppelin IV
>
> 12. Dancing Days ---- Houses Of The Holy
>
> 13. In My Time of Dying ---- Physical Graffiti
> 14. Black Country Woman
>
> 15. For Your Life --- Presence
> 16. Tea for One
>
> 17. We're Gonna Groove (cover) ---- Coda
> 18. Poor Tom
> 19. Travelling Riverside Blues (their best
> blues song ever)
>
> So out of 84 songs in 9 albums, only 19 were blues rock. And if you
> exclude covers then only 16 out of 81 = 20% of their songs.
How many times is it possible to go over this same crap
over and over again? This isn't a Zeppelin newsgroup.
Manco
uly...@mscomm.com
Manco
> Who gives a shit about Zeppelin? Post tennis-related posts or get lost!
Who gives a shit what you think?
Raja, The Great
Best post by Manco, ever!
Raja, The Great
> Who gives a shit about Zeppelin? Post tennis-related posts or get lost!
You are way too nasty to be a girl.
who?
> They are hard to categorize because they were not completely hard rock
> either. They were heavy metal neither. It is silly to categorize a
> band which did all sorts of music.
>
> They made 84 songs on their eight studio albums + leftover compilation
> CODA. Out of that only these songs are considered as blues rock (by
> wiki).
>
> You can get a genre classification of every song of theirs starting
>
> Songs listed as blues rock
> ----------------------------------------
> 1. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You --- Led Zeppelin I
> 2. You Shook Me (cover)
> 3. Dazed and Confused
> 4. I Can't Quit You Baby (cover)
> 5. How Many More Times
>
> 6. The Lemon Song --- Led Zeppelin II
> 7. Heartbreaker
> 8. Bring It On Home
>
> 9. Since I've Been Loving You --- Led Zeppelin III
> 10. Hats Off to (Roy) Harper
>
> 11. When the Levee Breaks ---- Led Zeppelin IV
>
> 12. Dancing Days ---- Houses Of The Holy
>
> 13. In My Time of Dying ---- Physical Graffiti
> 14. Black Country Woman
>
> 15. For Your Life --- Presence
> 16. Tea for One
>
> 17. We're Gonna Groove (cover) ---- Coda
> 18. Poor Tom
> 19. Travelling Riverside Blues (their best
> blues song ever)
>
> So out of 84 songs in 9 albums, only 19 were blues rock. And if you
> exclude covers then only 16 out of 81 = 20% of their songs.
Led Zeppelin was considered pretty heavy in their day.
who?
> Why do you respond then?
To let him know once again this isn't a Zeppelin newsgroup.
Vinz Clortho
billy
> They were not blues rock because they didn't do enough blues rock.
> They are hard to categorize because they were not completely hard rock
> either. They were heavy metal neither. It is silly to categorize a
> band which did all sorts of music.
>
> They made 84 songs on their eight studio albums + leftover compilation
> CODA. Out of that only these songs are considered as blues rock (by
> wiki).
>
> You can get a genre classification of every song of theirs starting
>
> Songs listed as blues rock
> ----------------------------------------
> 1. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You --- Led Zeppelin I
> 2. You Shook Me (cover)
> 3. Dazed and Confused
> 4. I Can't Quit You Baby (cover)
> 5. How Many More Times
>
> 6. The Lemon Song --- Led Zeppelin II
> 7. Heartbreaker
> 8. Bring It On Home
>
> 9. Since I've Been Loving You --- Led Zeppelin III
> 10. Hats Off to (Roy) Harper
>
> 11. When the Levee Breaks ---- Led Zeppelin IV
>
> 12. Dancing Days ---- Houses Of The Holy
>
> 13. In My Time of Dying ---- Physical Graffiti
> 14. Black Country Woman
>
> 15. For Your Life --- Presence
> 16. Tea for One
>
> 17. We're Gonna Groove (cover) ---- Coda
> 18. Poor Tom
> 19. Travelling Riverside Blues (their best
> blues song ever)
>
> So out of 84 songs in 9 albums, only 19 were blues rock. And if you
> exclude covers then only 16 out of 81 = 20% of their songs.
They werent only a blues rock band only in your opinion little boy.
And you know what your
opinion means around here.
richforman
> It is silly to categorize a band
You should have quit while you were ahead right there.
richforman
Raja, The Great
The world is a Zeppelin newsgroup!
who?
The world is a joke and don't forget it.
stuth...@comcast.net
> It is silly to categorize a
> band which did all sorts of music.
Raja, you pathetic twit. ALL YOU DO IS CATEGORIZE BANDS WHICH DID ALL
SORTS OF MUSIC.
This is blues rock.
That is prog-rock.
This is folk-rock.
That is soul music.
This is funk music.
That is funk-blues-jazz-prog-folk-rock.
STFU already.
stuth...@comcast.net
> 1. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You (cover)
> 2. You Shook Me (cover)
> 4. I Can't Quit You Baby (cover)
> 6. The Lemon Song (cover)
> 8. Bring It On Home (cover)
> 10. Hats Off to (Roy) Harper (cover)
> 11. When the Levee Breaks (cover)
> 13. In My Time of Dying (cover)
> 17. We're Gonna Groove (cover)
You forgot some.
Raja, The Great
Everyone categorizes. I am just telling you the categories I found in
wki for Zep songs.
Raja, The Great
Only three of those are official covers - I Cant Quit You Baby, You
Shook Me and We're Gonna Groove.
billy
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Led Zeppelin STOLE so much from so many. It is only your opinion they
are great and you know what everyone thinks of your opinion.
Raja, The Great
You are a retard. Go yell that in the street and be prepared to be
stoned.
stuth...@comcast.net
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Official according to whom?
Page stole D&C from Jake Holmes and a Federal court will confirm it.
AQnd then it will be "official."
Raja, The Great
<stuthalb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Feb 14, 3:32 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Feb 14, 1:23 pm, "stuthalb...@comcast.net"
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> > <stuthalb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > On Feb 12, 9:30 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > ----------------------------------------
> > > > 1. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You (cover)
> > > > 2. You Shook Me (cover)
> > > > 3. Dazed and Confused (cover)
> > > > 4. I Can't Quit You Baby (cover)
> > > > 5. How Many More Times (cover)
> > > > 6. The Lemon Song (cover)
> > > > 8. Bring It On Home (cover)
> > > > 10. Hats Off to (Roy) Harper (cover)
> > > > 11. When the Levee Breaks (cover)
> > > > 13. In My Time of Dying (cover)
> > > > 17. We're Gonna Groove (cover)
> > > > 19. Travelling Riverside Blues (cover)
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> > > You forgot some.
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> > Only three of those are official covers - I Cant Quit You Baby, You
> > Shook Me and We're Gonna Groove.- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Official according to whom?
I mean official credits.
Hugh Jazz
> You are a retard. Go yell that in the street and be prepared to be stoned.
Fag.
Jales
> So out of 84 songs in 9 albums, only 19 were blues rock. And if you
> exclude covers then only 16 out of 81 = 20% of their songs.
I think Led Zeppelin is a blues rooted band, unlike Deep Purple, they
were more based on rock and roll
Raja, The Great
That is a good position. Rooted in blues makes sense, but calling them
blues rock is stupid. Deep Purple had roots in classical too. And both
John Paul Jones and John Bonham were heavily influenced by jazz and
funk.
Raja, The Great
As Led Zeppelin's rhythm section-mate with drummer John Bonham, Jones
shared an appreciation for funk and soul rhythmic grooves which
strengthened and enhanced their musical affinity.[26] In an interview
he gave to Global Bass magazine, Jones remarked on this common musical
interest:
Yeah we were both huge Motown and Stax fans and general soul music
fans, James Brown fan. Which is one of the reasons why I've always
said that Zeppelin was one of the few bands to "swing". We actually
had a groove in those days. People used to come to our shows and
dance, which was great. To see all the women dancing, it was really
brilliant. You didn't necessarily see that at a Black Sabbath show or
whatever: So we were different in that way. We were a groovy band. We
used all our black pop music influences as a key to the rock that went
over the top.[27]
stuth...@comcast.net
> On Feb 14, 1:20 pm, "stuthalb...@comcast.net"
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> <stuthalb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > On Feb 12, 9:30 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > It is silly to categorize a
> > > band which did all sorts of music.
>
> > Raja, you pathetic twit. ALL YOU DO IS CATEGORIZE BANDS WHICH DID ALL
> > SORTS OF MUSIC.
>
> > This is blues rock.
>
> > That is prog-rock.
>
> > This is folk-rock.
>
> > That is soul music.
>
> > This is funk music.
>
> > That is funk-blues-jazz-prog-folk-rock.
>
> > STFU already.
>
> Everyone categorizes.
No, not everybody does.
There's only music I LIKE and music I DON'T like so much.
And I basically STFU about it.
And you should too.
Raja, The Great
<stuthalb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Feb 14, 3:32 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Feb 14, 1:20 pm, "stuthalb...@comcast.net"
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> > <stuthalb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > On Feb 12, 9:30 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > It is silly to categorize a
> > > > band which did all sorts of music.
>
> > > Raja, you pathetic twit. ALL YOU DO IS CATEGORIZE BANDS WHICH DID ALL
> > > SORTS OF MUSIC.
>
> > > This is blues rock.
>
> > > That is prog-rock.
>
> > > This is folk-rock.
>
> > > That is soul music.
>
> > > This is funk music.
>
> > > That is funk-blues-jazz-prog-folk-rock.
>
> > > STFU already.
>
> > Everyone categorizes.
>
> No, not everybody does.
>
> There's only music I LIKE and music I DON'T like so much.
>
> And I basically STFU about it.
>
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What are you? A netcop?
Jedi
> They are hard to categorize because they were not completely hard rock
> band which did all sorts of music.
>
> CODA. Out of that only these songs are considered as blues rock (by
> wiki).
>
> You can get a genre classification of every song of theirs starting
> with their first song Good Times Bad Timeshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Times_Bad_Times
>
> Songs listed as blues rock
> 1. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You --- Led Zeppelin I
> 2. You Shook Me (cover)
> 3. Dazed and Confused
> 5. How Many More Times
>
> 7. Heartbreaker
>
>
>
> 12. Dancing Days ---- Houses Of The Holy
>
> 13. In My Time of Dying ---- Physical Graffiti
> 14. Black Country Woman
>
> 15. For Your Life --- Presence
> 16. Tea for One
>
> 17. We're Gonna Groove (cover) ---- Coda
> 18. Poor Tom
> 19. Travelling Riverside Blues (their best
> blues song ever)
>
> exclude covers then only 16 out of 81 = 20% of their songs.
In the day they were to be called The New Yardbirds.
What do you think of The Yardbirds?
To think that Peter, the manager decided to drop the "a" in Lead
because he seriously thought that the "thick Americans" would call
them "Leed" .
And any kid who wanted to be a recording engineer or a producer loved
Page's production work.
But, you're spot on. My favourite Led Zep tunes are not the blues
tunes. Houses of the Holy and Physical Graffiti were profound.
Very little blues.
I saw Plant recently and he was astounding. His band was
brilliant. It reminded me of when I caught Robert Gordon with Slim
Jim Phantom, Glen Matlock and Chris Spedding. But Roberts band was a
bunch who weren't famous to me. Awesome.
He's such a great artist and draws on such great talent. I never
expected Plant to be as he is these days.
Raja, The Great
I love the yardbirds. My favorite of all the British invasion bands.
Unlike the Stones, Kinks or The who, yardbirds were a sincere blues
rock band. I wish Jeff beck stayed longer with them. But then there
would be no Zeppelin.
Without Page's production and Jones' arrangement skills Zeppelin
wouldn't sound half as brilliant
Joe
> I love the yardbirds.
No one fucking cares.
Raja, The Great
Fuck off
Ray
You are right about that, playing the blues requires soul, which they
lack utterly and completely.
Six year old flip flops have more.
Raja, The Great
*****troll meter explodes*****
Joe
Stop pointing it at yourself.
StephenJ
> They were not blues rock because they didn't do enough blues rock.
> They are hard to categorize
Robert Plant said LZ was a pop band. That should be good enough for
you. And even if it isn't ..
Kyla =^ ..^=
Pelle Svanslös
> On Feb 12, 8:30 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> They were not blues rock because they didn't do enough blues rock.
>> They are hard to categorize
>
> Robert Plant said LZ was a pop band.
He nailed it. A soft cock hard rock band.
--
"Listen first! Hiss later!"
Raja, The Great
Robert Plant really had nothing to do with music except his excellent
vocals. Page thinks they were prog rock. The music and the melody of
the songs were primarily written by Page, Jones and Bonzo. Since Bonzo
is dead, I will go by what Page and Jones have to say about the band.
Raja, The Great
> StephenJ wrote:
> > On Feb 12, 8:30 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> They were not blues rock because they didn't do enough blues rock.
> >> They are hard to categorize
>
> > Robert Plant said LZ was a pop band.
>
> He nailed it. A soft cock hard rock band.
Somebody needs to nail you to the cross and piss all over you.
Raja, The Great
> > *****troll meter explodes*****
>
> Stop pointing it at yourself.
Go fuck yourself.
Joe
"Raja, The Great" <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Go fuck yourself.
Christ, no wonder I can never tech support on the phone. You should spend
less time posting your drivel and more time answering your goddamned tech
calls.
Joe
Spoken like a true douche.
Pelle Svanslös
The gay hissy fits don't change anything. Plant knows their music better
than a groupie, and he's spot on. Their name could just as well be Eagles.
King Size Johnson
> Robert Plant really had nothing to do with music except his excellent
> vocals. Page thinks they were prog rock. The music and the melody of
> the songs were primarily written by Page, Jones and Bonzo. Since Bonzo
> is dead, I will go by what Page and Jones have to say about the band.
Jimmy Page just called. He wants Raja to fuck off.
Raja, The Great
> Raja, The Great wrote:
> >> StephenJ wrote:
> >>> On Feb 12, 8:30 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> They were not blues rock because they didn't do enough blues rock.
> >>>> They are hard to categorize
> >>> Robert Plant said LZ was a pop band.
> >> He nailed it. A soft cock hard rock band.
>
> > Somebody needs to nail you to the cross and piss all over you.
>
> The gay hissy fits don't change anything. Plant knows their music better
> than a groupie, and he's spot on. Their name could just as well be Eagles.
>
One thing is clear, you know nothing about Robert Plant or Led
Zeppelin. Plant likes to take a piss on fools like you. And you fools
fall for it.
Raja, The Great
Jimmy Page just called. He was looking for Raja - the 5th Zepster ;-)
Peter Veter
You have some serious gay fetish about guys pissing on each other.
Disturbing...
Peter Veter
I doubt he would have anything to do with a douche like yourself.
Ray
How many times have you seen them live?
waiting
waiting
waiting
You only know what the publicity people from the record company want
you to know. Hell, you think they could actually play that shit live,
and I'm here to tell you, based on my observation... they sucked.
Raja, The Great
I have seen them live in many movies - They kicked ass absolutely in
Led Zeppelin DVD (Live At Albert Hall - 1970). Thats one of their best
performance. I have many audience tapes and bootlegs. And they were
incredible in the 1968-75 period. The best live band ever, along with
Deep Purple and Hawkwind. No one comes close really.
Raja, The Great
> "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:76cd7302-5ca9-4989...@k7g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
You are wrong, knucklehead.
Ray
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So, you know that movies are not real, right?
No, seriously. The Song Remains teh Same is a total clam fest, but you
have an excuse for that all polished up and ready to go, dontcha?
Raja, The Great
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You are wrong fuckwad. I have lots of bootleg audios (many case
audience recordings, some cases soundboard recordings... I bet you
don't know the difference) of their concerts from 1969-73.
Ray
Will someone please explain the concept of LIVE to this pathetic
troll?
As in you were not A-live when they were touring sugar tits, you have
no fucking clue what a pathetic pack of scumwads they really were.
Let's just say partying and statutory rape were much higher on their
priority list then actually being able to play that shit.
Raja, The Great
fucker
Raja, The Great
Peter Veter
> fucker
Where as *your* mother gladly accepted.
Raja, The Great
Mandy Well, there's a reason it's... like it is, Brian.
Brian What is it?
Mandy Your father isn't Mr. Cohen.
Brian I never thought he was!
Mandy Now none of your cheek! He was a Roman, Brian. He was a
centurion in the Roman army.
Brian You mean... you were raped?!
Mandy Well... at first, yes.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA
Ray
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Wow a clue is something you lack.
M C hammered
> It was easier for the media to simply classify them that way. But I
> think in the end Led Zep were more of a "Hammer of the Gods" then
> blues-rock.
What is a Manco?? The word gotta wondafull sound to it....it sounds
like sumfin I, ole MC, would truely enjoy...expecialy iffit came from
the fikkin Yoke!!
Nuff said
Ray
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You go talking about people's mothers around here and you likely get
stomped until you're too wet to plow fanboi. But you a tough guy on
the internet defending your imaginary boyfriend, Go with that, it's as
good as your life will ever get.
Raja, The Great
Piss off, wanker
JJ (UK)
JJ (UK)
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>Robert Plant really had nothing to do with music except his excellent
>vocals...The music and the melody of
>the songs were primarily written by Page, Jones and Bonzo. Since Bonzo
>is dead, I will go by what Page and Jones have to say about the band.
I find it hard to believe that Plant didn't come up with many or most of the
vocal lines (not just the lyrics). Particularly as Plant is given many more
writing credits (69) than Bonzo (20) and Jones (33) put together.
JJ (UK)
rec.sport.tennis removed because, well...duh!
Raja, The Great
> "Raja, The Great" wrote in messagenews:d8a96722-b9f4-42c9...@by6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> >Robert Plant really had nothing to do with music except his excellent
> >vocals...The music and the melody of
> >the songs were primarily written by Page, Jones and Bonzo. Since Bonzo
> >is dead, I will go by what Page and Jones have to say about the band.
>
> I find it hard to believe that Plant didn't come up with many or most of the
> vocal lines (not just the lyrics). Particularly as Plant is given many more
> writing credits (69) than Bonzo (20) and Jones (33) put together.
>
Most of the instrumental sections were composed by the rest of the
band when they were jamming. In many cases Plant came in later and
added some nonsense lyrics ;-) He could have sung in Greek and still
the songs would have been freaking amazing. I think Plant got the
credits because of the lyrics.
who?
This is not a Zeppelin group.
JJ (UK)
>Most of the instrumental sections were composed by the rest of the
>band when they were jamming.
Also not convinced that most of their songs were as the result of jamming.
>I think Plant got the credits because of the lyrics.
Granted, but I still think he would also have come up with many of the vocal
melodies not just the lyrics.
JJ (UK)
Raja, The Great
> "Raja, The Great" wrote in messagenews:e87294d0-3daa-428b...@o18g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
He did come up with the softer more folkier ones. But the others are
purely the result of the rest of the band trying different riffs and
solos. You think Plant was directing the instrumental sections? He
could hardly play the guitar.
Raja, The Great
Then why do you cross post that to the Zeppelin newsgroup?
JJ (UK)
On Feb 26, 10:40 am, "JJ \(UK\)" <n...@spam.ta> wrote:
>You think Plant was directing the instrumental sections? He could hardly
>play the guitar.
At no point have I mentioned or suggested that he did...I was only talking
about the vocal lines.
JJ (UK)
Raja, The Great
> "Raja, The Great" wrote in messagenews:133370da-0f07-41a1...@z27g2000prz.googlegroups.com...
What does a vocal line mean, especially for a band like Led Zeppelin?
They were not like the Beatles in which the words dictated the melody
of the song. It was reverse. Led Zeppelin were Yes in that regard.
Nonsense sentences thrown in that sounded cool and followed the
instrumental melody of the rest of the band.
Raja, The Great
> "Raja, The Great" wrote in messagenews:133370da-0f07-41a1...@z27g2000prz.googlegroups.com...
Clear indication that Plant joined in later (and this was the case not
just with Stairway to Heaven but many more of them).....
"I had these pieces, these guitar pieces, that I wanted to put
together. I had a whole idea of a piece of music that I really wanted
to try and present to everybody and try and come to terms with. Bit
difficult really, because it started on acoustic, and as you know it
goes through to the electric parts. But we had various run-throughs
[at Headley Grange] where I was playing the acoustic guitar and
jumping up and picking up the electric guitar. Robert was sitting in
the corner, or rather leaning against the wall, and as I was routining
the rest of the band with this idea and this piece, he was just
writing. And all of a sudden he got up and started singing, along with
another run-through, and he must have had 80% of the words there ... I
had these sections, and I knew what order they were going to go in,
but it was just a matter of getting everybody to feel comfortable with
each gear shift that was going to be coming."
JJ (UK)
>Clear indication that Plant joined in later...
Again, you've misinterpreted me. I'm not talking about the timeline of his
input. Your quote is a indication that my supposition that Plant came up
with the vocal lines (by which I mean tunes/melodies, not just the lyrics)
is correct. It also suggest that his input to Stairway was contemporaneous
to Page developing the instrument parts with Jones and Bonham anyway. Page
was working on the instrumentation, as you've rightly said, then Plant came
in with the vocal part.
I really don't see Plant as being just a singing lyricist. He's clearly more
creative than that. I'm not saying Page never came up with the vocal tunes,
I'm just saying that I think Plant came up with an awful lot, if not most,
of them.
JJ (UK)
JJ (UK)
>What does a vocal line mean
For ANY band, including Led Zeppelin, it means the tune the vocals follow.
It doesn't mean the words.
JJ (UK)
Raja, The Great
Okay so in case of Led Zeppelin, most of the tunes were already
composed by the time Plant started adding his vocals. Don't you think
so?
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> JJ (UK)
JohnB
know of many examples of a totally improvised vocal line. The thing is
here, who composed the tune for the vocal line - and there is no
conclusive proof that it was Plant or that it wasn't Plant. There is,
though, a suggestion in some stuff I've read that Plant did contribute
in that department. See the wiki article on Stairway - it doesn't say
explicitly, but it does suggest that maybe the vocal melody was
Plant's.
JJ (UK)
>Okay so in case of Led Zeppelin, most of the tunes were already
>composed by the time Plant started adding his vocals. Don't you think
>so?
I believe I have made my position pretty clear. I am of the opinion that
Plant came up with many or most of the vocal melodies, certainly more and
more so as their career went on. I don't believe he was "only" providing the
lyrics and the voice.
JJ (UK)
