Bonham on the other hand always had the groove. Saying John Henry Bonham was
overratted is ridiculous. After him nothing was the same.
>===== Original Message From tiny...@aol.com (TinyTorr) =====
Best kept secret
Moon carried a vastly greater potential than Bonham but refused to practice
or play outside of recording and live appearances. His style was unique and
not before or since has there been a drummer that was as exciting both on
record and in concert, the whole time throwing all the rules and discipline
of a drummer out the window. Although not the most technical of drummers, he
made up for his lack of time keeping skills with speed and power, often
filling tiny gaps with elaborate and explosive rolls.
John was a fabulous addition to LZ but didnot carry either the weigth or
influence in the band as Moon did with Who. Too bad both were wankers. At
least Moon had the decency to die away from the band falling in Mama Cass'
wake and her flat.
tyre
It amazes me that people equate more drums in a kit to better drumming. Listen
to the greats of Rock and Roll like Bonham, Moon, Watts and Starkey and be
amazed that they put out the sound they did with small kits. If Peart needs
more drums than the basic kit to sound almost as good as the above greats, he
must really be not that good when given a 5 piece kit.
Dave
"Hid in the reeds are eyes that peek,
voices I don't understand.
Flamingos fly endlessly,
To the silent sky"
You don't even Play drums do you? Because if you did , you would realize how
stupid you sound. Moon is nothing, thrasher , thats it. You fucking fagget , I
wish I could kick ass right now.
Stryder167
His Name is JOHN asshole, and what does more drums and longer solos have to do
with anything. John Bonham did more on a five peice then Peart could do on a 15
peice.
Stryder167
tyre
>Ringo Starr playing with Page & Jones? Are you out of your
>mind? Oil & Vinegar if you ask me. Look, Moon and Bonham are
>like Apples and Oranges. Both are great, great drummers, and
>both respectd each other and were friends.
Yep, but neither of em could handle their liquor.
>I prefer Bonham's
>behind the beat, hard sound to Moon's disjointed paradiddles,
>but to each his own. In Zep, Bonham was the engine.
Bonham the engine? You got to be joking.
>In the
>Who, it was Entwistle.
You must be trolling or something.
I've been sitting here listening to some tunes tonight and I was
thinking how Jimmy screwed up when he got together with Coverdale--he
should have gotten together with David Lee Roth. That would have been
some good rocking there. Or maybe it would be good if David Lee Roth
just joined the reformed, new and improved Led Zeppelin, with Ringo on
drums and David Lee Roth singing backup vocals, and from time to time,
Robert and David Lee could sing a duet.
Reese
Why didn't you capitalize his surname, you moron?
Sani
He doesen't play "thrash", he's a trash drummer with legs enough to
impress a Duracell Bunny.
Sani
"One
time someone asked him about the technicalities he uses when playing the
drums, to which Bonham answered, "Technicalities, what the hell are you
going
on about?" Bonham raised his hand into the air and said, "This is my
technicality," as his arm fell down in a forceful manner. "Hand to drum,
that's what it is, hand to drum," says Bonham. "I'm not trying to be any
superstar. I just do my bit as one quarter of Led Zeppelin. When I have a
solo I don't ever imagine drummers around watching me. I don't try to
impress people who play the drums. I play for people. I don't try and
perform the most amazing changes in tempo, or make people watch me. I just
couldn't do that - it would take away the essence of Jimmy's guitar and
Robert's voice. John Paul and myself lay down a thick backdrop, that's what
we do."
I t seems he was doing it al for music lovers not music analysers all the
time.
Just had a sad thought. I'll never get to meet Bonzo to thank him, well at
least not
for a long time, I hope.
:¬)
carol
>Thanks to Steve the 'Lemon.
This comment leads one to the question of whether you lick
the "juice that runs down his leg" above or below the knee.
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>You don't even Play drums do you? Because if you did , you
would realize how
>stupid you sound. Moon is nothing, thrasher , thats it. You
fucking fagget , I
>wish I could kick ass right now.
Your replies, demeanor, spelling, puctuation and capitalization
are in perfect synchronization with your intelligence.
You said the Latin Winter would bring you down forever but you rode upon a
steamer to the violence of the sun. And the colors of the sea find your eyes
dancing with the Mermaids.
And I give a shit. Oh my, I spelled something wrong, WHO GIVES A FUCK., Oh no,
I didn't capitalize something, FUCK ME. Hey dude, I finished High school 7
years ago. Do you think I need to impress you with anything. Get over yourself.
Stryder167
Why aren't you sucking my dick yet. Bitch.
Stryder167
Probably because you and I are 6000 miles away, and I generally don't
suck anyone who has balls as inane as his head. I can almost see you
with this eye-bulging dragonfish expression when you write these
posts of yours. In three years, your head's perimeter has grown as
large as South Park's Timmy's basketball head. If you kick armadillos
for the sake of not liking John Bonham, then it's time to order a
pile of "The Young Ones" tapes and have a laugh at yourself.
Sani
>Hey dude, I finished High school 7
>years ago.
Hey, dude, you told us that you are twenty-nine. It took you
until age 22 to get out of high school?
God, your near brain death......which matches your near
illiterate posts.
M,
{\O/} @~~~)~~~~
>Hey Morris/Ben troll. Stryder is 25. But I guess 5 might look
like 9 to
>someone w/ your obvious mental problems.
Gee whiz, that was an unfriendly comment. Butt is was very
friendly of you to defend Stryder. You wouldn't do so if he was
capable of defending himself. You are a friend of the retarded.
MF2000
tyre
Rufus Leaking wrote:
> >believe that Keith Moon and Jon Bonham are very good drummers. But Neil Peart
> >of Rush is Even better. He has more drums than any other drummer,
>
===== Original Message From rham...@aol.com (Rhammes99) =====
>I believe that Keith Moon and Jon Bonham are very good drummers. But Neil
Peart
>of Rush is Even better. He has more drums than any other drummer, and longer
>solos, and has created some very complex song structures. I also believe that
>Jon Bonham is the 2nd greatest drummer ever.
>
Best kept secret
At the same show, believe it or not the Who were totally blown away in my
estimation by a new band called Cream.
But I remember Golden Earring as being very good , but after all I was
barely born at the time.
:Ź)
carol
"captaink" <mai...@MailAndNews.com> wrote in message
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I guess that would make you someone who bothers the retarded. Isn't that
illegal in most states?
-Jen
And I suppose you are a whole lot smarter considering you spell 'you are
(you're)' as 'your'. It amazes me how people like you can even comment on
someone else's own intellect.
-Jen
Hey dude, I'm not 29, you fucking asshole.
I'm 24, going on 25. Fucking Cunt.
Stryder167
And your a son of a bitch. Fagget fuck
Stryder167
> what? are u saying mnoon died in the same flat as mama cass did? wierd
stuff*
>
> tyre
Same bedroom to boot. A few years apart, if I remember the timing.
tyre
You remind me of my fat pal, Pablo Pussy. He was always, "Yada yada
yada, you motherfucker!" The only difference is that his vocabulary
included some words that I couldn't even find from JRR Tolkien's "How
to Curse in Dwarf Language Opus IV". As for you, I think you would had
gotten a few dialogue lines from Oliver Stone's "Platoon".
Sani
>===== Original Message From "carol" <makesm...@hotmail.com> =====
>I saw Golden Earring in 1967 (Easter Sunday) and was very impressed with the
>massive sound they made.
>
>At the same show, believe it or not the Who were totally blown away in my
>estimation by a new band called Cream.
>
>But I remember Golden Earring as being very good , but after all I was
>barely born at the time.
>
>:¬)
>carol
>
>
>"captaink" <mai...@MailAndNews.com> wrote in message
>news:3953...@MailAndNews.com...
>> If that's the criteria you use for the best drummer then it is time you
>> listen
>> to Cesar Zuiderwijk from Golden Earring. He had the biggest sets of em
>all,
>> and he used to climb on top of his drumcage and start tapping his special
>> drumsuit with built in drumsample patches, and then move over to another
>> place
>> where hye would put his hands in laser beams what would trigger other
>> drumsamples. The man who wrote a composition for a thousand drummers, of
>> which
>> some under water.
>>
>> ===== Original Message From rham...@aol.com (Rhammes99) =====
>> >I believe that Keith Moon and Jon Bonham are very good drummers. But Neil
>> Peart
>> >of Rush is Even better. He has more drums than any other drummer, and
>longer
>> >solos, and has created some very complex song structures. I also believe
>that
>> >Jon Bonham is the 2nd greatest drummer ever.
>> >
>>
>> Best kept secret
>>
>
Best kept secret
Anyone that is older than me who is still alive and well is a hero
of mine.
carol
p.s. Radar Love, that was the song wasn't it?
"captaink" <mai...@MailAndNews.com> wrote in message
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what is it about that place that lures so many to their death?
Both Moon and Elliot died in London.
tyre
tyreah
Is that your Nickname for your Cunt. BITCH.
Stryder167
>theres no denying that bonham is the greatest that will ever
>live. period.
theres no denying you have the brain of an amoeba. period.
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Susan
amen brother.
Bonham was great, he had a groove, and also the nerve to call himself the self
proclaimed "greatest drummer in the world."
To me Moon is the greatest drummer in Rock and Roll.
Drummers usually play to back up the more recognizable guitarists and singers.
Moon, on the other hand, took drumming to a new level. From smashing his drum
kits, blowing them up, standing on top of them; he made people notice that a
drummer can be a showman.
I think any drummer would agree with me that Bonham's material is much easier
to play than Moon's.
Unlike every other drummer, Moon had an identity. You can tell when he plays,
and he's never been matched in what he did.
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I think so - but isn't that called "the Twilight Zone"? Or do I just think
of it that way because that's the part that *I* remember most? ;o)
:o)
>===== Original Message From "carol" <makesm...@hotmail.com> =====
>I'm glad to hear that. Honestly.
>
>Anyone that is older than me who is still alive and well is a hero
>of mine.
>
>carol
>
>p.s. Radar Love, that was the song wasn't it?
>
>"captaink" <mai...@MailAndNews.com> wrote in message
>news:3957...@MailAndNews.com...
>Guess what/ Golden Earring is still alive and well.
>
>
>
>
>
Best kept secret
>ok "benjamin" you fag, give one reason why bonham is not the
greatest - or do
>you enjoy writing piss poor comments without backing them up?
Since you have no credible percussion experience, and of little
value to say on most subjects, music especially, your vote for
Bonham condemns him from the get-go.
Bonham is in the bottom of the top ten of drummers I listen to.
He can't even hold Doane Perry's sticks. adn he is dead and
burning in hell like a marsmallow at a Boy Scout camp.
Was I clear ehough, Zep69mustbeontop?
Malone - I Fought For Your Right to Be An Idiot
>
>This post can be authenticated at
>http://www.code4sale.com/cgi-bin/usenet.dll/a?N=560
>
>I think so - but isn't that called "the Twilight Zone"? Or do I just think
>of it that way because that's the part that *I* remember most? ;o)
>
>:o)
>
>
I'm sure your memory is better than mine, Lee. At the time the only line I
could remember was when the bullet hits the bone. Oh, well.
:>)
susan
>On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 09:26:47 -0400 (EDT), Virtu...@webtv.net
>(Brian) wrote:
>
>>Bonham could play on a single bass drum, what all of todays"great"
>>drummers play on doubles! Nuff said
>
>I thought that was because he wasn't coordinated enough to play on
>two.
>
>
No, it was because he made too much noise with two :-)
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Life is complex, with real and imaginary parts.
We don't need that shit, Stryder. Taker it elsewhere.
1. John Bonham
2. Keith Moon
3. Neil Peart
4. Bill Ward
5. Ian Paice
6. Peter Criss
7. Ginger Baker
8. Artimus Pyle
9. Alex Van Halen
10. Cozy Powell
Here are some drummers I like in no particular order:
Bonzo - When I did not know all Zep songs I sometimes recognized them
just by Bonzo's drumming
Ian Paice - nice how he accompanied Purple's improvs.
Carl Palmer - excellent with ELP
Neil Peart - also writes nice lyrics
Cozy Powell - RIP
Nick D'Virgilio - just listen to his vocals with Spock's Beard
Mike Portnoy
Bill Bruford
Imho I think it is not only technical skill which makes an excellent
drummer, there's a lot more: feeling, songwriting and the way he plays
together with the bassist.
Markus
Don't forget Jeff Porcaro from Toto. I don't like Toto, but Porcaro is an
amazing drummer.
Hey fuck you KB, Don't throw old post at me. The fucking bitch want to sit and
insult me then, I'm insulting her back. Jagoff motherfucker.
Stryder167
>Hey fuck you KB, Don't throw old post at me. The fucking bitch
want to sit and
>insult me then, I'm insulting her back. Jagoff motherfucker.
Puff on my White Owl, Stryder. I am sick of you making all the
rest of us look like fools.
You and Reese can crawl into a corner and check out each other's
gonads, prick.
kB
>Jagoff motherfucker.
Gee, golly, that was unfriendly, my friend. Do you truly
believe kingbenny was that very friendly with his Mommy?
MF2000
tyre
kingbenny wrote:
> stryd...@aol.com (STRYDER167) wrote:
>
> >Hey fuck you KB, Don't throw old post at me. The fucking bitch
> want to sit and
> >insult me then, I'm insulting her back. Jagoff motherfucker.
>
> Puff on my White Owl, Stryder. I am sick of you making all the
> rest of us look like fools.
>
> You and Reese can crawl into a corner and check out each other's
> gonads, prick.
>
> kB
>
US? NOT!!!!!! Himself>yes. Thats his choice.
STRYDER167 wrote:
> >We don't need that shit, Stryder. Taker it elsewhere.
> >
>
> Hey fuck you KB, Don't throw old post at me. The fucking bitch want to sit and
> insult me then, I'm insulting her back. Jagoff motherfucker.
>
> Stryder167
--
Tyger Tyger, burning bright,
In the forests of the night;
What immortal hand or eye,
Could frame thy fearful symmetry.
-The Tyger (William Blake 1757-1827)
speaking of Ginger Baker, there was a great question regarding him on Jeopardy
last week:
Subject: Dumb Answers
Answer: He was the drummer in Ginger Baker's Air Force!
Who is.........?
Dave
"Hid in the reeds are eyes that peek,
voices I don't understand.
Flamingos fly endlessly,
To the silent sky"
And how is That asshole. I've been a part of this group long before you. It
wasn't too long ago that you were here saying alot of shit about everyone else,
so go fuck yourself.
Stryder167
Your right Jinny, me alone. Its good that you can see I'm not making anyone
look like anything but what they are. But I guess because I don't preach the
almighty, I'm some sort of dick now. But hey?
Stryder167
I didn't haver a peoblem with anybody, I still don't. But if KB is going to
start telling me what belongs here and what doesn't , he can fuck off. I'm not
some fucking troll, I know more about this band and there music then most
people here. I don't claim to know everything and there are people who know
more then I do, but what I say is what I want. I like everyone in this NG, I
might not agree with you ans I might call you name's but I don't hate anyone.
Your a bunch of people I don't know, never seen, and should I really care this
much? NO
Stryder167
>And how is That asshole. I've been a part of this group long
>before you.
What the fuck does that mean? So you have been an asshole for a
long, long, long time?
> It
>wasn't too long ago that you were here saying alot of shit
about everyone else,
>so go fuck yourself.
Drunk drug addict. I'm saving my red eye for you.
>I didn't haver a peoblem with anybody, I still don't.
You are a disgrace, cant tpye and make us all look like fuckin
idiots for letting you stay around.
>I'm not
>some fucking troll,
I'll take Malone over you anyday, faggot.
> I know more about this band and there music then most
>people here.
DUH, ZEP IS GREAT; DUH, ZEP IS BEST. Real knowledge there.
> I don't claim to know everything and there are people who know
>more then I do, but what I say is what I want.
"what I say is what I want". What does that mean, pothead?
> I like everyone in this NG, I
>might not agree with you ans I might call you name's but I
>don't hate anyone.
Make up your mind fuckface. Do u like or not hate everybody.
Wotk on trying to do complete sentences. I bet you did graduate
from high school at 22.
>Your a bunch of people I don't know, never seen, and should I
really care this
>much? NO
Then fuck off and don't come back. We don't want you, we don'
like u, we just tolerate u.
>>US? NOT!!!!!! Himself>yes. Thats his choice.
>>
>
>But I guess because I don't preach the
>almighty, I'm some sort of dick now.
You preach the ALMIGHT bong and booze and yes u are a dik, aa
big as Long Dong silver.
LOL
>
>DUH, ZEP IS GREAT; DUH, ZEP IS BEST. Real knowledge there.
Just tell me what you would like to know.
>Make up your mind fuckface. Do u like or not hate everybody.
>Wotk on trying to do complete sentences.
I never said I hated anyone, and anyone familiar with what I said, will tell
you I've said many times I don't hate anyone.
I also know that this isn't the real KB, because I really don't think KB is
this fucking stupid.
Stryder167
>I also know that this isn't the real KB, because I really don't
think KB is
>this fucking stupid.
Yeah? Well if that is true you been made a fucking fool out of
for two damn days.
kMalone
I think I did not only forget Jeff Porcaro. I also forgot:
Ralph Molina - Crazy Horse, but only together with Neil Young
Buddy Rich, Billy Cobham, Simon Philipps
and not to forget: JASON Bonham
>Wotk on trying to do complete sentences. I bet you did graduate
>from high school at 22.
>
well see, no one is perfect, you did it too. we all make mistakes. zepp on
eheheh
tyre
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Hey little thing let me light your candle cause I'm sure hard to
handle