Mark Knopfler Vs Jimmy Page
HALL. BENJAMIN JAMES
WHo do you reckon is the better guitar player of the two,Knopfler and Page.
I'm a huge fan of the Zeps but I'd have to say Dire Straits (along with
Cream and The Doors) is my favorite band.
There's this live album by Dire Straits called alchemy which was recorded
pre Brothers in Arms in 1983 at Hamersmith Odeon.This is a truly remarkable
album.It produced a highly aclaimed 14 minute version of Telegraph Road
which still gets played on radio in obscure hours and is still a rock
favourite when radio's do those top 1000 songs of all time ext...
This is a really raw album.Unbelievable,faultless guitar work from Knopfler
who played HARD CORE for 80 minutes straight.I don't think there is
anybody in the world who could compete with his live preformances.Sure there are a alot of more appealing guitarists but this guy is my favourite.I
personally think he's better than plant , and rates up there with jimi...
Matt Monaco
I'm just going to assume you mean he's better than Page.....I'll
disagree with you on that one..i'll also say that I disagree with you
not placing Page and Hendrix in the same category....just my 2cents..
PAGEY
On 16 Oct 1996 15:23:39 +0800, pd5...@phq1002.wapol.gov.au (HALL.
John T. Costello
In <3265927a...@news.mindspring.com> pa...@mindspring.com (Matt
to play on the early Dire Straits albums! Withers was the real
guitar talent in that band.
BTW, is it Knoepfler or Knopfler?
JohnC
Bryce Burnet
pd5...@phq1002.wapol.gov.au (HALL. BENJAMIN JAMES) wrote:
> WHo do you reckon is the better guitar player of the two,Knopfler and Page.
> I'm a huge fan of the Zeps but I'd have to say Dire Straits (along with
> Cream and The Doors) is my favorite band.
> There's this live album by Dire Straits called alchemy which was recorded
> pre Brothers in Arms in 1983 at Hamersmith Odeon.This is a truly remarkable
> album.It produced a highly aclaimed 14 minute version of Telegraph Road
> which still gets played on radio in obscure hours and is still a rock
> favourite when radio's do those top 1000 songs of all time ext...
> This is a really raw album.Unbelievable,faultless guitar work from Knopfler
> who played HARD CORE for 80 minutes straight.I don't think there is
> anybody in the world who could compete with his live preformances.Sure there are a alot of more appealing guitarists but this guy is my favourite.I
> personally think he's better than plant , and rates up there with jimi...
Don't get me wrong, I love Page and his work in LEd Zep. But I'm
afraid I'd have to give the nod to Knopfler as well. His guitar work,
much like David Gilmour's, Eric Clapton's or Eric Johnson's, is always
extrmemely tasteful. Sultans of Swing may be an old song, but the
guitar solo at the end always gives me chills.
Neil D. Knowles
Technically speaking, Mark Knopfler has the edge but is somewhat
overshadowed by Page's flamboyant style.
N.Knowles
Time Elf
Jimmy will probably always be my favourite guitarist but Knopfler is
definitely ONE HELL OF PLAYER. In response to what someone wrote:
> Sultans of Swing may be an old song, but the
> guitar solo at the end always gives me chills.
great song with a hell of a solo!
Knopfler is up there but he is still below Jimmy Page and David Gilmour in
my books, but that is just a musical preference not a technical judgement.
Take care,
Jacob
jeff g.
Bryce Burnet (kao...@aimnet.com) wrote:
: guitar solo at the end always gives me chills.
Having seen Knopfler, Page, CLapton, Gilmour, Satriani, Vai, Zappa, and a
whole lotta other guitarists live, I would state that Gilmour is one of
the less imaginative ones. Every solo sounds alike. I would say the
same of Clapton throughout much of the 80's, when I think the mindrotting
effect of working with Phil Collins hurt his playing. He seems to have
gotten a jolt up the wazoo since the late 80's. WHile Page may now be a
shadow of his former self, he remains one of the best rock guitar
composers ever. Knopfler is also quite good, but I think you're
comparing apples and oranges.
jeff g.
Glenn Saunders
The mortal Bryce Burnet wrote:
: extrmemely tasteful. Sultans of Swing may be an old song, but the
: guitar solo at the end always gives me chills.
But his CLEAN guitar tone is an acquired taste. I doubt you'll find many
accolytes of this laid-back style on the Led Zeppelin newsgroup.
moonchylde
You guys have GOT to be kidding!
Jimmy Page smokes ALL other guitarists hands down!
Moonchylde
Dean K Jackson
Re: Mark Knopfler Vs Jimmy Page
> From: Brad <pit...@students.uiuc.edu>
> Subject: Re: Mark Knopfler Vs Jimmy Page
> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 15:58:40 -0500
and another...
Brad
Ken Myers
In <EmQL06i00...@andrew.cmu.edu> Dean K Jackson
<dk...@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>Re: Mark Knopfler Vs Jimmy Page
>> From: Brad <pit...@students.uiuc.edu>
>> Subject: Re: Mark Knopfler Vs Jimmy Page
>> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 15:58:40 -0500
>>
and yet another
Peter Matthews
On Wed, 23 Oct 1996 21:48:04 -0700, moonchylde <ton...@kudonet.com>
wrote:
>You guys have GOT to be kidding!
>Jimmy Page smokes ALL other guitarists hands down!
>
Yeah Jimmy Page rules , and then theres Hendrix ... Mark Knopfler is
canny but no where near as good as page , no point even comparing the
two! <g>
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In article <3272236...@news.demon.co.uk>, Peter Matthews <PMatthews
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None of you lot heard of Zappa? Much as I like Page and co., Zappa was
in a different dimension.
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Time Elf
One more for Mark Knopfler (though I still like Jimmy better)! :)
Michael Richard Siminski
kenm...@ix.netcom.com(Ken Myers) writes:
>In <EmQL06i00...@andrew.cmu.edu> Dean K Jackson
><dk...@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
(SNIP)
>>> > But his CLEAN guitar tone is an acquired taste. I doubt you'll
>find
>>> > many accolytes of this laid-back style on the Led Zeppelin
>>> > newsgroup.
>>> heres one
>>
>>and another...
>and yet another
and one more.
MS
Srinath Sridevan
Peter Matthews (PMat...@houghton.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Oct 1996 21:48:04 -0700, moonchylde <ton...@kudonet.com>
> wrote:
>
> >You guys have GOT to be kidding!
> >Jimmy Page smokes ALL other guitarists hands down!
> >
>
> Yeah Jimmy Page rules , and then theres Hendrix ... Mark Knopfler is
> canny but no where near as good as page , no point even comparing the
> two! <g>
>
Comparing Mark Knopfler with Jimmy Page is almost blasphemy. Mark
is great. "Sultans.." is good, etc etc. But anyone who has listened to Led
Zep, and particularly Jimmy Page, from his Yardbirds days, through Led
Zep, cannot entertain any doubt as to who is the greater guitarist.
As a matter of fact, I think it is pretty amazing that the 3
greatest guitarists of all-time (barring possibly Hendrix) graduated
through the Yardbirds. (namely, Clapton, Beck, and Page)
If you count guitaring simply as a matter of fancy stunts,
divorced from the innovation involved, then you could even include the
likes of Satriani among the guitaring greats. But that is no the way it
is.
Knopfler is innovative and he has the mellow tone to his guitar
which is certainly unique, but listen to Led Zep #3, the joyous whooping
guitar on Celebration Day, and the peaceful accoustics on Tangerine will
certainly convince anyone that Page is the greater.
M.A. ARINO CLARKE
Peter Matthews wrote:
>
> On Wed, 23 Oct 1996 21:48:04 -0700, moonchylde <ton...@kudonet.com>
> wrote:
>
> >You guys have GOT to be kidding!
> >Jimmy Page smokes ALL other guitarists hands down!
> >
>
> Yeah Jimmy Page rules , and then theres Hendrix ... Mark Knopfler is
> canny but no where near as good as page , no point even comparing the
> two! <g>
HALL. BENJAMIN JAMES
Srinath Sridevan (ss...@is4.nyu.edu) wrote:
: Peter Matthews (PMat...@houghton.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: > On Wed, 23 Oct 1996 21:48:04 -0700, moonchylde <ton...@kudonet.com>
: > wrote:
: >
: > >You guys have GOT to be kidding!
: > >Jimmy Page smokes ALL other guitarists hands down!
: > >
: >
: > Yeah Jimmy Page rules , and then theres Hendrix ... Mark Knopfler is
: > canny but no where near as good as page , no point even comparing the
: > two! <g>
: Comparing Mark Knopfler with Jimmy Page is almost blasphemy. Mark
: is great. "Sultans.." is good, etc etc. But anyone who has listened to Led
: Zep, and particularly Jimmy Page, from his Yardbirds days, through Led
: Zep, cannot entertain any doubt as to who is the greater guitarist.
: As a matter of fact, I think it is pretty amazing that the 3
: greatest guitarists of all-time (barring possibly Hendrix) graduated
: through the Yardbirds. (namely, Clapton, Beck, and Page)
: If you count guitaring simply as a matter of fancy stunts,
: divorced from the innovation involved, then you could even include the
: likes of Satriani among the guitaring greats. But that is no the way it
: is.
: Knopfler is innovative and he has the mellow tone to his guitar
: which is certainly unique, but listen to Led Zep #3, the joyous whooping
: guitar on Celebration Day, and the peaceful accoustics on Tangerine will
: certainly convince anyone that Page is the greater.
***How can you say that comparing Knopfler to Page is blashamy when you
say that Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton are among the best three guitarists
in the world? If you think that I'm being a smart arse then listen to this.
Eric Clapton has been quoted saying that Knopfler is clearing the best in
the world (This was said at the end of the eighties) and that when Knopfler
invited him to be a guest at a Dire Straits concert he didn't feel comfort-
able because people expect so much of him and he was frightened that knopfl
er would show him up.I'm not going to argue about who is the better player
out of Page and Knopfler (Although I personally favour Knopfler),but when
you say that old slow hand and Jeff Beck are superior to him ,you are
totally blowing the credability of your views out of the water.Yes , I'm
a huge Led Zep fan and I have heard #3,but when you compare the preformance ofPage in this particular album to that of Mark knopfler in Alchemy Live
you will see that Jimmy Page really doesn't compare technically with
mark Knopfler,even if Page is more famous and obviously a better performer.Anyway , it's all personal opinion (even eric claptons),so who
really knows, the best guitar player in the world could be some flaminco
player sitting on a street corner in downtown Spain.
Jeffrey Potoff
HALL. BENJAMIN JAMES wrote:
>
> ***How can you say that comparing Knopfler to Page is blashamy when you
> say that Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton are among the best three guitarists
> in the world? If you think that I'm being a smart arse then listen to this.
> Eric Clapton has been quoted saying that Knopfler is clearing the best in
> the world (This was said at the end of the eighties) and that when Knopfler
> invited him to be a guest at a Dire Straits concert he didn't feel comfort-
> able because people expect so much of him and he was frightened that knopfl
> er would show him up.I'm not going to argue about who is the better player
> out of Page and Knopfler (Although I personally favour Knopfler),but when
> you say that old slow hand and Jeff Beck are superior to him ,you are
> totally blowing the credability of your views out of the water.
Huh ? Why is that ? I get the impression that you don't think
Jeff Beck is much of a guitarist, in which case you are sadly mistaken.
Go see him play some time and you will be amazed.
Jeff
Glenn Saunders
The mortal Jeffrey Potoff wrote:
: Huh ? Why is that ? I get the impression that you don't think
: Jeff Beck is much of a guitarist, in which case you are sadly mistaken.
: Go see him play some time and you will be amazed.
Some people go to see guitarists play, other people go to hear music.
There are plenty of guitarists noone is even considering from other genres
that, technically speaking, might be "better" than Knopfler or Page, but
the fact is, if they play music you don't like, who cares if they can play
better?
I don't like Dire Straights, so obviously I prefer Page.
I also have never been impressed with the songwriting ability of Jeff
Beck, regardless of his facility as a player. Beck almost defined the
genre that Vai and Satriani play in over 2 decades ago when he started
recording instrumental "guitar masturbation" albums, none of which really
move me at all. And when it comes to Clapton? The guy is as whitebread
as Yanni now. Talk about a far cry from his Cream days...
Maureen Casey
page & knopfler are pretty darn good. jimmy page was my favorite for
awhile. nowadays, however, its hard for me to listen to anyone but alan
holdsworth, jeff beck, frank zappa, steve morse, john mclaughlin...these
guys smoke!
mike casey
Pat Devaney
Jeffrey Potoff wrote in response to HALL. BENJAMIN JAMES:
> Huh ? Why is that ? I get the impression that you don't think
> Jeff Beck is much of a guitarist, in which case you are sadly mistaken.
> Go see him play some time and you will be amazed.
>
Definately AGREE !!
Jeff Beck is the most awe-inspiring guitarist I ever had the pleasure to see play
live ... and I've seen alot of guitarists! (Hendrix not included, though). Knopfler
is more of a song composer.
Pat
Mark Goode
HALL. BENJAMIN JAMES wrote:
> who really knows, the best guitar player in the world could be some
Yeah, best guy I ever heard was a chap called Narciso Yepes (I think).
Though he probably don't play street corners.
Who cares who is best? The guitar is a beautiful instrument, and to hear
it played well is always a pleasure, whoever is playing it.
Regards,
Mark Goode
A fan of Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Mark Knopfler, Julian Bream, John
Williams, etc. etc.
grob...@forest.drew.edu
>
> I also have never been impressed with the songwriting ability of Jeff
> Beck, regardless of his facility as a player. Beck almost defined the
> genre that Vai and Satriani play in over 2 decades ago when he started
> recording instrumental "guitar masturbation" albums, none of which really
> move me at all. And when it comes to Clapton? The guy is as whitebread
> as Yanni now. Talk about a far cry from his Cream days...
I suggest you listen to Clapton's last blues album, "From the Cradle."
Great stuff. He plays w/ incredible emotion.
Geoff