alt.binaries.sounds.led-zeppelin
Reese
been discusssed here and I missed it.
Anyway, for those of you who don't know about, they post in .shn
format, which stands for "shortened", I think. It's just some way of
compressing .wav files so that nothing is like, like a few things are
lost on mp3s, but on most Zep boots, it don't make much difference.
Anyway, I've been monitoring the group for about a month now and
there's been nothing posted there but crap boots. I mean crappy sound
quality. Maybe someday they'll post something decent.
And you've kind of got to have a high speed connection to download
stuff from the group, because the files are gigantic.
Reese
remove the 5's to reply--leave the four 4's
Lee McC
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"Reese" <reese4...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I didn't discover this newsgroup until about a month ago. Maybe it's
> been discusssed here and I missed it.
>
> Anyway, for those of you who don't know about, they post in .shn
> format, which stands for "shortened", I think. It's just some way of
Shorten - lossless audio compression. Visit www.etree.org for info and
links to free tools for making them, decompressing them and a plug-in to
play them in Winamp.
Yep, they are big but only about half as big as the original wav file. I'd
upload some too but my mindspring news server won't carry the group.
Earthlink (which now owns Mindspring) does carry it but the server is so
slow that it's virtually useless for me to try to connect to it. At least,
it is from where I am. Maybe other parts of the country have better access.
;o)
Reese
wrote:
>Shorten - lossless audio compression. Visit www.etree.org for info and
>links to free tools for making them, decompressing them and a plug-in to
>play them in Winamp.
>
>Yep, they are big but only about half as big as the original wav file. I'd
>upload some too but my mindspring news server won't carry the group.
>Earthlink (which now owns Mindspring) does carry it but the server is so
>slow that it's virtually useless for me to try to connect to it. At least,
>it is from where I am. Maybe other parts of the country have better access.
Yeah, I figured out what .shn is and how to decompress it. I've
downloaded several tracks of lots of boots posted there. I pull in
new headers every day. I think I've kept two files out of about 75
I've downloaded. I'm not one of those folks who thinks every Zep boot
is worth having.
Reese
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One thing I ain't figured out--what are the .skt files for?
Lee McC
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"Reese" <reese4...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:56:09 -0400, "Lee McC" <lee...@mindspring.com>
> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> One thing I ain't figured out--what are the .skt files for?
Let me try to remember this correctly - IF I'm wrong, it's not by much but
the precise details may be slightly askew. These are "seek" files for Shn
files being played in Winamp - the *newer* version of Shn builds this
information into the Shn file but previous versions of Shorten didn't have
this seek capability as there wasn't a Winamp plug-in yet for Shn. So, if
you get an SHN file that was made with previous versions of Shorten, you can
still play them in Winamp with the plug-in but, unless you have an
accompanying skt file for that particular track, you won't be able to ff or
rev to different parts of the song. You'll only be able to play it from
beginning to end. With the skt file, or with an SHN file that was made by a
newer version (which all of the releases have been for about the last 6
months), you can do all the functions normally that Winamp can do.
I think that pretty much covers it.
;o)
Reese
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What about the .md5 file?
Lee McC
sure you got everything that was uploaded. An md5 file is generated for a
specific file or group of files - say I ripped disc 2 of Badgeholders and
then converted the tracks to SHN - During the conversion process, in the
program I use (MKW Audio Toolkit) I can tell it to automatically generate an
md5 file for the songs that I am currently converting (Because I would have
dragged all the tracks from the disc into MKW for conversion). Then, when
I'm done, I get all the shn files plus the md5 file. (Or I could convert
them one at a time and create an md5 file for each one but that's kind of a
waste of time) OK, now I upload all those tracks to an ftp server or a news
group and I upload the md5 file too. When someone else downloads all those
tracks and the md5 file, they can double click the md5 file and it will
check the files in the directory to make sure they are identical to the
files that were uploaded. If a packet or something was lost on the original
upload or download, the file checksums won't match and the md5 file will
tell you that something is missing so you can redownload or figure out
what's wrong.
I believe the files (tracks) that correspond to a specific md5 file have to
be in the same directory as the md5 file and they must be the only files in
that directory. IF you alter the files in any way before checking (like
change the names) the md5 file will report an error - because the name is
part of the total checksum information.
And if you have a Shorten program installed (I actually only know of two -
the one I use, MKW and a DOS command line version that you use like the old
PKZip program but there may be others too.) you can highlight any group of
files and generate an md5 checksum file for them. It doesn't have to just
be for Shorten files. So you can send whatever files you want anywhere you
want and the people getting them can be sure they got everything.
:o)
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Reese
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>That's the checksum file - for checking the integrity of the files to make
Thanks. I know about checksum--I just didn't know .md5 was checksum.
Some guy did run up Tangible Vandalism over there today, but it didn't
come through complete.
I know that if those guys are like Zep traders, anything Zep did is
excellent as far as they're concerned, and they're gonna post all the
crap along with the good stuff, which is a shame, but, seeing as
they're the ones who're posting it, I can't complain.
Maybe I'll rip some of the higher quality ones and post them.
Oh, Dallas 1975 is over there now and that's pretty good but I've
already got it.
Sam
"Lee McC" <lee...@mindspring.com> a écrit dans le message news:
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> Shorten - lossless audio compression. Visit www.etree.org for info and
> links to free tools for making them, decompressing them and a plug-in to
> play them in Winamp.
>
> Yep, they are big but only about half as big as the original wav file.
Why not using Monkey's Audio format? It's lossless, makes smaller files than
SHN, and support full tagging similar to IDv2. And it's free too!
Peace,
Sam
howldog
wrote:
>And you've kind of got to have a high speed connection to download
>stuff from the group, because the files are gigantic.
>
watch out, or Mr Ed Wilburn will call you nasty names for advocating
"piracy".
me, I just tell ya to blow off trying to download anything any good,
the CDs are readily available from a variety of underground sources.
howldog
wrote:
I'm not one of those folks who thinks every Zep boot
>is worth having.
oh.
you must not be Stryder.
Pissyass Pants
<d3dpbGJ1cm4=.f87b49b1b2971257...@997725345.cotse.net>:
>Reese wrote:
>
>
>> Thanks. I know about checksum--I just didn't know .md5 was checksum.
>
>Then you don't know shit about checksums, dunbass.
>
>> Maybe I'll rip some of the higher quality ones and post them.
>
>Maybe someone will catch your felonious as and turn you in.
>
>Reece
Fuck you
>
Lee McC
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"Sam" <Zepp...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:9l8qhv$jj8$1...@wanadoo.fr...
Well I can't speak for everyone else but I haven't used it because this is
the foist I hoiduvit! You know what I always say - Free Kicks Ass.
Links please? Or are ya gonna make me google? ;o)
:o)
Sam
>
> Well I can't speak for everyone else but I haven't used it because this is
> the foist I hoiduvit! You know what I always say - Free Kicks Ass.
>
> Links please? Or are ya gonna make me google? ;o)
>
Peace and Love,
Sam