12 best rock bands ever
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
DGDevin
"Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Check my webpage... It sucks ass ;-)
FTFY
iL_WeReo
> Check my webpage... It kicks ass ;-)http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
There's no such thing as a "best rock band." They all suck.
The Arranger
Raja and the Wereo guy. I think this could be the beginning of a
beautiful friendship.
The Arranger
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
Casablanca... one of my favorite movies
felangey
Of all the newsgroups, on all the interwebs, in all the world...you walk
into ours! :)
RichL
Don't encourage him. Them. Whatever.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
lol... another classic line.
Jake Sully
"Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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If by kicks ass you mean sucks ass. Still have pics of you lubing your vag
there?
Jake Sully
> There's no such thing as a "best rock band." They all suck.
Just like you suck on a Friday night....sucking cQcks that is.
Jake Sully
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You have to be a prepubescent boy to spark either of their interests.
viper
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> http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
As cruel as some comments are, it's refreshing to see a list that does not
contain plagiarists and pretenders such as Bon Jovi and Metallica.......
You've just about nailed the pioneers, save for Jethro Tull
Viper
>
Jeff
> Check my webpage... It kicks ass ;-)http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
The Smile "Another happening Today"
Sounds like a 60's band.
Jeff
Me
> Check my webpage... It kicks ass ;-)http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
Shouldn't you be worrying about more important things such as how to
get your mother out of the house so that you and your father can each
get a free masturbation?
Savage- Banned In Britian.
Raja- Allowed In The U.S. and Allowed To Remain Here.
What's wrong with this picture.
Jeff
> On Feb 3, 9:44 pm, Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Check my webpage... It kicks ass ;-)http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
>
> Shouldn't you be worrying about more important things such as how to
> get your mother out of the house so that you and your father can each
> get a free masturbation?
Dirty mind.
The Nice Mean Man
You are a one-dimensional thinker. Two at the most. Do you not once
look beyond your tiny borders? I mean, you can drill your head with
that stuff all you want but you're never going to grow. One
dimesnional shit, man.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> "Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:ca30cce5-ff46-4ff2...@k41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Check my webpage... It kicks ass ;-)
> >http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
>
> As cruel as some comments are, it's refreshing to see a list that does not
> contain plagiarists and pretenders such as Bon Jovi and Metallica.......
>
> You've just about nailed the pioneers, save for Jethro Tull
If Jethro Tull didn't go in the wrong direction after Thick As A
Brick, may be they would have made the list. I still don't see them as
pioneers. Led Zeppelin III came out in 1970. And it had a mix of folk,
prog rock and blues. Jethro Tull were most likely following the
path.... just making somewhat longer songs.
>
> Viper
>
>
>
>
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
None of these 12 bands sound the same. How is the list one
dimensional? You could also make a case that Pink Floyd, Yes, Can,
Kraftwerk were not even rock.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> "Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:ca30cce5-ff46-4ff2...@k41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Check my webpage... It sucks ass ;-)
>
> FTFY
you are just a bitter old man, DG Devlin
globular
> Check my webpage... It kicks ass ;-)
> http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
>
Maybe you should stick with that instead of trying to fit other music
into it.
No Ultravox.
progea
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl wrote:> Check my webpage... It kicks ass ;-)
> >http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
>
> You seem to have a bias for 70s experimental music.
I do, because 60s and 70s were the starting point of all experimental
globular
> On Feb 4, 8:47 am, globular <s...@there.invalid> wrote:
>> Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl wrote:> Check my webpage... It kicks ass ;-)
>>> http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
>> You seem to have a bias for 70s experimental music.
>
> I do, because 60s and 70s were the starting point of all experimental
> music.
>
>> Maybe you should stick with that instead of trying to fit other music
>> into it.
>> No Ultravox.
>
I don't see the importance of Kraftwerk or Can except to people who want
to see it.
Me
more stupid, uninformed shit:
> I do, because 60s and 70s were the starting point of all experimental
> music.
>
Hey untouchable, ever hear of experimental music called "be-bop"? The
starting point of that was in the 1940s.
Take a bath and fuck off Raja.
JohnB
doesn't make it folk.
Oh, and Tull did not go in the wrong direction after TaaB; for me,
Songs From The Wood and Heavy Horses are two of their best albums.
Tsch, why do I bother...?
(and what the hell has this to do with tennis? - removed)
hoser1605
> Check my webpage... It kicks ass ;-)http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
Very sad.
Someone with excellent taaste.
hoser1605
stuth...@comcast.net
You eliminated all of the Allman Brothers, Grateful Dead and The Band
because they didn't achieve sufficient "mainstream popularity of the
band during their time."
Ever heard of Watkins Glen?
300,000 people to see one performance by THOSE particular bands.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl wrote:> On Feb 4, 8:47 am, globular <s...@there.invalid> wrote:
> >> Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl wrote:> Check my webpage... It kicks ass ;-)
> >>>http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
> >> You seem to have a bias for 70s experimental music.
>
> > I do, because 60s and 70s were the starting point of all experimental
> > music.
>
> >> Maybe you should stick with that instead of trying to fit other music
> >> into it.
> >> No Ultravox.
>
> I said 70s, not 60s.
Beatles are a 70s band?
> I don't see the importance of Kraftwerk or Can except to people who want
> to see it.
They have been highly important to post punk/new wave. A lot of indie
acts and other mainstream alternative acts like Radiohead cite them as
major influence. Joy Division were Kraftwerk followers. U2 ripped off
Joy Division. Radiohead are big Can fans and they even covered one of
their songs.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
Experimental in rock n roll, dumbass.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
wrote:
> Amazingly, you have eliminated all American bands playing rock music.
Yeah many of them broke up too soon or werent successful outside (at
least in terms of charting) the US.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> On 4 Feb, 14:28, Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 3, 10:40 pm, "viper" <vi...@rugby.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:ca30cce5-ff46-4ff2...@k41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > Check my webpage... It kicks ass ;-)
> > > >http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
>
> > > As cruel as some comments are, it's refreshing to see a list that does not
> > > contain plagiarists and pretenders such as Bon Jovi and Metallica.......
>
> > > You've just about nailed the pioneers, save for Jethro Tull
>
> > If Jethro Tull didn't go in the wrong direction after Thick As A
> > Brick, may be they would have made the list. I still don't see them as
> > pioneers. Led Zeppelin III came out in 1970. And it had a mix of folk,
> > prog rock and blues. Jethro Tull were most likely following the
> > path.... just making somewhat longer songs.
>
> There's no folk on LZ3. Just because there are acoustic guitars
> doesn't make it folk.
lol, wiki is wrong then...and a bunch of rock critics who initially
accused them of stealing the CSNY sound. I guess CSNY were not folk
then.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin_III
"Composed largely at a remote cottage in Wales known as Bron-Yr-Aur,
this work represented a maturing of the band's music towards a greater
emphasis on folk and acoustic sounds"
"As noted above, Led Zeppelin III marked a change in focus for the
band from late 1960s hard rock to a more folk rock or electric folk
and acoustic inspired sound."
"The song "Gallows Pole" is an updated arrangement of a traditional
folk song called "The Maid Freed from the Gallows".
Although the band's expanding musical boundaries were greeted warmly
by some, detractors attacked the heavier tracks as being mindless
noise, while the acoustic material was criticised by others for merely
imitating the music of Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young.[11] Page
suggested that this comparison was unwarranted, stating in an
interview he gave to Cameron Crowe that
when the third LP came out and got its reviews, Crosby, Stills and
Nash had just formed. That LP had just come out and because acoustic
guitars had come to the forefront all of a sudden: LED ZEPPELIN GO
ACOUSTIC! I thought, Christ, where are their heads and ears? There
were three acoustic songs on the first album and two on the second."
> Oh, and Tull did not go in the wrong direction after TaaB; for me,
> Songs From The Wood and Heavy Horses are two of their best albums.
I like Songs From the Wood. Heavy Horses is okay... But do you see the
huge GAP between Thick As A Brick and Songs From the Wood.
Between Thick As A Brick and Songs From the Wood (mind you I am a Tull
fan),...there were 4 turd like albums
A Passion Play .... boring as death
War Child... hardly memorable
Minstrel In the Gallery... painful to listen to
Too Old To Rock N Roll, Too Young To Die... utter travesty
> Tsch, why do I bother...?
>
> (and what the hell has this to do with tennis? - removed)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
JohnB
> On Feb 4, 10:16 am, JohnB <johnbo...@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 4 Feb, 14:28, Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 3, 10:40 pm, "viper" <vi...@rugby.com> wrote:
>
> > > > "Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:ca30cce5-ff46-4ff2...@k41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > > Check my webpage... It kicks ass ;-)
> > > > >http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
>
> > > > As cruel as some comments are, it's refreshing to see a list that does not
> > > > contain plagiarists and pretenders such as Bon Jovi and Metallica.......
>
> > > > You've just about nailed the pioneers, save for Jethro Tull
>
> > > If Jethro Tull didn't go in the wrong direction after Thick As A
> > > Brick, may be they would have made the list. I still don't see them as
> > > pioneers. Led Zeppelin III came out in 1970. And it had a mix of folk,
> > > prog rock and blues. Jethro Tull were most likely following the
> > > path.... just making somewhat longer songs.
>
> > There's no folk on LZ3. Just because there are acoustic guitars
> > doesn't make it folk.
>
> lol, wiki is wrong then...and a bunch of rock critics who initially
> accused them of stealing the CSNY sound. I guess CSNY were not folk
>
> "Composed largely at a remote cottage in Wales known as Bron-Yr-Aur,
> this work represented a maturing of the band's music towards a greater
> emphasis on folk and acoustic sounds"
>
> "As noted above, Led Zeppelin III marked a change in focus for the
> band from late 1960s hard rock to a more folk rock or electric folk
> and acoustic inspired sound."
>
> "The song "Gallows Pole" is an updated arrangement of a traditional
> folk song called "The Maid Freed from the Gallows".
>
still does not really make it folk. Even basing something on a folk
song (I concede Gallows Pole has its roots in folk) doesn't make it
folk. But we're arguing artificial boundaries from different points of
view. I just don't recall any of the folk and folk-rock fans I was at
college with referring to LZ3 as folk at all.
> Although the band's expanding musical boundaries were greeted warmly
> by some, detractors attacked the heavier tracks as being mindless
> noise, while the acoustic material was criticised by others for merely
> imitating the music of Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young.[11] Page
> suggested that this comparison was unwarranted, stating in an
> interview he gave to Cameron Crowe that
>
> when the third LP came out and got its reviews, Crosby, Stills and
> Nash had just formed. That LP had just come out and because acoustic
> guitars had come to the forefront all of a sudden: LED ZEPPELIN GO
> ACOUSTIC! I thought, Christ, where are their heads and ears? There
> were three acoustic songs on the first album and two on the second."
>
> > Oh, and Tull did not go in the wrong direction after TaaB; for me,
> > Songs From The Wood and Heavy Horses are two of their best albums.
>
> I like Songs From the Wood. Heavy Horses is okay... But do you see the
> huge GAP between Thick As A Brick and Songs From the Wood.
>
> Between Thick As A Brick and Songs From the Wood (mind you I am a Tull
> fan),...there were 4 turd like albums
>
> A Passion Play .... boring as death
> War Child... hardly memorable
> Minstrel In the Gallery... painful to listen to
> Too Old To Rock N Roll, Too Young To Die... utter travesty
>
Actualy Minstrel is another of my favourites. War Child has some good
tracks too but patchy overall. The other two are not amongst my
favourites though I do own them.
globular
> Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I do, because 60s and 70s were the starting point of all experimental
>> music.
>
> music history that it's fruitless to even bother correcting you.
I thought people were responding to me.
I actually deleted the post that started this, but Raja saw it anyway.
My bone of contention is always lumping the 60s in with the 70s.
globular
I understand to a point. I saw a documentary about the influence of
Kraftwerk for example. But I do stand on separating the 60s from the
70s. Yes there was experimental music in the 60s and yes, in the 70s, I
don't meld them together.
I remember saying in a post how U2 copied Joy Division before I ever had
heard it mentioned anywhere.
I just don't care about Kraftwerk and Can, especially Can who seem very
obscure.
People like to be 'redundant' about the 60s, I am about the 70s.
Me
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hey marble-mouth, you once again demonstrate your ignorance and total
lack of musical knowledge. There's not a rock and roll band in the
world, not a single band who's ever played an extended solo that's not
been influenced by be-bop.
Savage- Banned in Britian
Raja- allowed to enter and remain the U.S.A.
What's wrong with this picture?
Take a bath and fuck off Raja. Think up some new ways to get your
mother out of the house so that you can have a free masturbation.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
Bono has admitted he copied Joy Division's style.
> I just don't care about Kraftwerk and Can, especially Can who seem very
> obscure.
Well, they did make a lot of great experimental albums. These are the
albums I would recommend.
Kraftwerk
------------
Kraftwerk 2 (1 is pretty good as well.,their most rocking album and
least electronic album)
Autobahn (an all time classic, somewhat rock and somewhat electronic,
and groundbreaking)
The Man-Machine (great songs, Trans Europe Express was repetitive, but
not this. purely electronic pop, sounds very new wavish)
Can
------
Tago Mago (the greatest experimental/avantgarde achievement in rock
music)
Ege Bamyasi (slightly transitional album between the insanity of Tago
Mago and ambience of Future Days)
Future Days (ambient classic)
> People like to be 'redundant' about the 60s
Can you elaborate on that?
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
Jethro Tull was no more folk than Led Zeppelin. You can call Fairport
Convention, Bob Dylan, Steeleye Span as proper folk rock maybe
>Even basing something on a folk
> song (I concede Gallows Pole has its roots in folk) doesn't make it
> folk. But we're arguing artificial boundaries from different points of
> view. I just don't recall any of the folk and folk-rock fans I was at
> college with referring to LZ3 as folk at all.
Yeah because it is not pure folk. It is folk rock mixed with hard rock
and prog rock.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> There's not a rock and roll band in the
> world, not a single band who's ever played an extended solo that's not
> been influenced by be-bop.
NQ! try following the conversation, no one is denying that rock n roll
is influenced by be-bop
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I do, because 60s and 70s were the starting point of all experimental
> > music.
>
> music history that it's fruitless to even bother correcting you.
Okay I mean experimentation in rock n roll. Of course there was
experimentation done in other genres before rock n roll
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
Thanks
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
Were all of them Americans? Were all of them hippies or rednecks?
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I do, because 60s and 70s were the starting point of all experimental
> > > > music.
>
> > > Another one of those things you say which are so shockingly ignorant of
> > > music history that it's fruitless to even bother correcting you.
>
> > Okay I mean experimentation in rock n roll. Of course there was
> > experimentation done in other genres before rock n roll
>
> semi-formative period during the '60s and '70s, it's silly to single out
> just experimental rock as beginning there. Countless rock styles had a
> "starting point" during that lonnnnng 20-year period. It's kinda like
> saying "Childhood was crucial for me, because that's when I learned to
> ride a bike."
you didnt make any point here. Rock N Roll started in the 50s. It
wasn't really experimental in the 50s. Even if it was (there was some
instrumental rock), it wasn't popularized to the masses that much as
lets say Sgt Pepper or The White Album.
DGDevin
"Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> > Check my webpage... It sucks ass ;-)
>>
>> FTFY
> you are just a bitter old man, DG Devlin
You're as phony as a three-dollar bill, "Raja." You're a tourist pretending
to be an authority, despite the fact that anyone exposed to your bizarre
formulas and lists for determining musical value finds them laughable at
best. Seriously, "Raja," how many people have ever praised your childish
rants on music? Your efforts are universally greeted with ridicule and then
exploded in precise detail by people who can easily show your facts and
figures are wrong and your conclusions arbitrary and foolish. You might as
well be passing judgment on Norse poetry or submarine design, you simply
don't know what you're talking about and you inevitably end up looking
foolish. One more thing, your website does indeed suck ass, but at least
you keep your "poetry" hidden--that's a small blessing.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> "Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:2cb1ebda-8daf-4be0...@p24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
you are desperate to read it, i know
bubba
I don't know if it is possible to reason with ragay he really is a
moron.
bubba
>
> - Show quoted text -
Like trying to convince a tree stump to use proper table manners: not
only is it fruitless but why bother?
bubba
>
> - Show quoted text -
you said "ALL music" dipshit
bubba
>
> - Show quoted text -
I think you meant to say Pet sounds and Smile. Simple mistake
viper
On Feb 3, 10:40 pm, "viper" <vi...@rugby.com> wrote:
> "Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in
> messagenews:ca30cce5-ff46-4ff2...@k41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Check my webpage... It kicks ass ;-)
> >http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
>
> As cruel as some comments are, it's refreshing to see a list that does not
> contain plagiarists and pretenders such as Bon Jovi and Metallica.......
>
> You've just about nailed the pioneers, save for Jethro Tull
If Jethro Tull didn't go in the wrong direction after Thick As A
Brick, may be they would have made the list. I still don't see them as
pioneers. Led Zeppelin III came out in 1970. And it had a mix of folk,
prog rock and blues. Jethro Tull were most likely following the
path.... just making somewhat longer songs.
>
> Viper
>
>
Are you under 35 ?
Viper
>
>
Manco
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> Fuck off Raja. I've done with you.
No, you didn't.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
Do I have to spell it out to you. This thread is about rock bands.
Can't you pieces together? Oh wait... you don't have a brain.
Me
>
> - Show quoted text -
Raja boy is more concerned with getting his mother out of the house so
that he can get a free masturbation than with actually learning
anything about music. If he took his hand out of his pants for 5
minutes, he might actually learn something about music and appreciate
it for more than being just something to make stupid lists over.
I wonder how old Raja is. He's obsessed with masturbation and knows
nothing about music. Sounds as if he could be a 14 year old boy to me.
Me
> Check my webpage... It kicks ass ;-)http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
Cock breath, didn't you post here last week that you were going to be
gone for a long time? You did. Once again, you prove yourself to be a
lying fuck twerp.
Go home to your country and stop posting on the internet.
Oh yeah. Fuck off too.
bubba
>
> - Show quoted text -
Steffi, go to your room!
DGDevin
"Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepf...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> One more thing, your website does indeed suck ass, but at least
>> you keep your "poetry" hidden--that's a small blessing.
> you are desperate to read it, i know
I saw some of it years ago before you hid it. It was the most painfully
childish rubbish imaginable, the sort of thing a moody teenager would write,
full of theatrical angst about the meaninglessness of existence and so on.
I laughed so hard I almost pulled a muscle. Your views on music are cut
from the same cloth--it's hilariously funny stuff, you're the only one who
doesn't realize that.
BassPlyr23
> On Feb 4, 9:16 am, globular <s...@there.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl wrote:> On Feb 4, 8:47 am, globular <s...@there.invalid> wrote:
> > >> Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl wrote:> Check my webpage... It kicks ass ;-)
> > >>>http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
> > >> You seem to have a bias for 70s experimental music.
>
> > > music.
>
> > >> into it.
> > >> No Ultravox.
>
> > I said 70s, not 60s.
>
> Beatles are a 70s band?
>
"Let It Be" was released in May 1970. That makes the Beatles a 70's
band, dickwad.
However, the Beatles are actually a band for the ages.
Lucky
> Check my webpage... It kicks ass ;-)http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
You make this "maze" of qualifiers so your favorites (which are pretty
much the same as mine) are the only bands to make it through. And
these bands where at their height from 1970 to 1980. The way the list
is put together is horrible
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
Not really. Most of the career was spent in 1960s. Let it Be was
recorded in 1969. Doesnt matter when it was released. How the West Was
released in 2003. Are Zeppelin a 2000's band?
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
can you think of a better way? I doubt it.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> "Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:3e5a9f7d-3a12-4f85...@q4g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
which poem did you read? I doubt you read any of the poems which I
wrote in my 20s! Yes I did start writing poems when I was around 13
and they were kind of teenager like... because I was a fucking
teenager back then... you fucking idiot.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
change that to "he really is very intelligent". and I agree.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> "Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1626fb19-4840-4540...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
Definitely under 235. Does it matter?
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> shallow your understanding is.
Blame it on the shallow stuff I read then. Sue me, I wasn't born in
the 50s. All you oldies are so fucking intelligent. Your brain keeps
growing as your testicles keep shrinking... you must be so really
proud of yourself.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
Beatles sound very 60s to me. Those la la la harmonies are very 60s.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
> On Feb 3, 9:44 pm, Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Check my webpage... It kicks ass ;-)http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
>
> look beyond your tiny borders? I mean, you can drill your head with
> that stuff all you want but you're never going to grow. One
> dimesnional shit, man.
This is one dimensional? Tell me how... Point me 2 bands on the list
which sound like each other... just 2.
01. Led Zeppelin
02. Yes
03. Pink Floyd
04. The Beatles
05. The Rolling Stones
06. Black Sabbath
07. Deep Purple
08. The Who
09. Kraftwerk
10. Can
11. AC/DC
12. Rush
Joe Ramirez
> On Feb 4, 1:10 am, The Nice Mean Man <hitherand...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > On Feb 3, 9:44 pm, Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > Check my webpage... It kicks ass ;-)http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
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> > You are a one-dimensional thinker. Two at the most. Do you not once
> > look beyond your tiny borders? I mean, you can drill your head with
> > that stuff all you want but you're never going to grow. One
> > dimesnional shit, man.
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> This is one dimensional? Tell me how... Point me 2 bands on the list
> which sound like each other... just 2.
Point you 2 bands? How 'bout you point me 1 band on the list that
launched after 1975 ... just 1.
Time is a dimension, by the way.
Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl
Why does it need to have a band which was launched after 1975? I don't
think any original band which launched after 1975 was good enough for
a long time like these were. List me some original bands which you
think came after 1975 who made such a impact as those 12!
I can think of a few... but they don't fit the criteria (note that for
Kraftwerk and Can, I made the popularity as an exception since they
made some really groundbreaking experimental music)
Joy Division - groundbreaking - yes, good for a long time - no (didn't
even last long), popular - hardly
Iron Maiden - groundbreaking - somewhat, good for a long time - yes,
mainstream popularity - somewhat
Metallica - groundbreaking - somewhat, good for a long time - not
really, mainstream popularity - yes (but not when they were really
creative)
Radiohead - groundbreaking - somewhat, good for a long time - yes,
mainstream popularity - not really
Ramones - groundbreaking - slightly, good for a long time - fucking
no, mainstream popularity - somewhat
Wire - groundbreaking - yes, good for a long time - no, mainstream
popularity - absolutely not
Sonic Youth - groundbreaking - not really, good for a long time -
somewhat, mainstream popularity - no
Talking Heads - groundbreaking - somewhat, good for a long time - yes,
mainstream popularity - absolutely not
The Fall - groundbreaking - no, good for a long time - yes, mainstream
popularity - absolutely not
Porcupine Tree - groundbreaking - no, good for a long time - yes,
mainstream popularity - absolutely not
Pixies - groundbreaking - yes, good for a long time - no, mainstream
popularity - absolutely not
The Clash - groundbreaking - no, good for a long time - no, mainstream
popularity - somewhat
The Cure - groundbreaking - no, good for a long time - somewhat,
mainstream popularity - no
REM - groundbreaking - somewhat, good for a long time - yes,
mainstream popularity - yes (but not when they were really creative)
Weezer - groundbreaking - no, good for a long time - no, mainstream
popularity - yes (but not when they were really creative)
The Smiths - groundbreaking - somewhat, good for a long time -
somewhat, mainstream popularity - somewhat
Husker Du - groundbreaking - somewhat, good for a long time - no,
mainstream popularity - no
Nirvana - groundbreaking - no, good for a long time - no, mainstream
popularity - yes
The Smashing Pumpkins - groundbreaking - no, good for a long time -
somewhat, mainstream popularity - somewhat
U2 - groundbreaking - hell no, good for a long time - yes, mainstream
popularity - absolutely
Did I miss anyone worth mentioning?
Joe Ramirez
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> On Feb 5, 8:18 am, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com> wrote:
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> > On Feb 5, 9:14 am, Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > On Feb 4, 1:10 am, The Nice Mean Man <hitherand...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Feb 3, 9:44 pm, Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > Check my webpage... It kicks ass ;-)http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
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> > > > You are a one-dimensional thinker. Two at the most. Do you not once
> > > > look beyond your tiny borders? I mean, you can drill your head with
> > > > that stuff all you want but you're never going to grow. One
> > > > dimesnional shit, man.
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> > > This is one dimensional? Tell me how... Point me 2 bands on the list
> > > which sound like each other... just 2.
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> > Point you 2 bands? How 'bout you point me 1 band on the list that
> > launched after 1975 ... just 1.
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> > Time is a dimension, by the way.
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> Why does it need to have a band which was launched after 1975?
It doesn't *need* to, unless you want to avoid being one-dimensional.
Someone charged you with that, and you said, "Tell me how." Well,
that's how. Your list is one-dimensional as to rock history;
everything is from more or less the same era. Now, if your taste and
aesthetic judgment don't permit you to add anything from after 1975,
fine. Don't distort your views -- just admit that your preferences are
one-dimensional as to this criterion.
bubba
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Ray
> On Feb 4, 8:17 pm, "DGDevin" <dgde...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
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> > "Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:2cb1ebda-8daf-4be0...@p24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
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> > >> > Check my webpage... It sucks ass ;-)
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> > >> FTFY
> > > you are just a bitter old man, DG Devlin
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> > You're as phony as a three-dollar bill, "Raja." You're a tourist pretending
> > to be an authority, despite the fact that anyone exposed to your bizarre
> > formulas and lists for determining musical value finds them laughable at
> > best. Seriously, "Raja," how many people have ever praised your childish
> > rants on music? Your efforts are universally greeted with ridicule and then
> > exploded in precise detail by people who can easily show your facts and
> > figures are wrong and your conclusions arbitrary and foolish. You might as
> > well be passing judgment on Norse poetry or submarine design, you simply
> > don't know what you're talking about and you inevitably end up looking
> > foolish. One more thing, your website does indeed suck ass, but at least
> > you keep your "poetry" hidden--that's a small blessing.
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He's exactly right, you know fuck-all about music and when presented
with a sound argument that shows this to be true you run away like a
cunt.
DGDevin
"Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl" <zepf...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:55dbf615-e4dd-4714...@n7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> which poem did you read? I doubt you read any of the poems which I
> wrote in my 20s! Yes I did start writing poems when I was around 13
> and they were kind of teenager like... because I was a fucking
> teenager back then... you fucking idiot.
You expect me to remember the titles of that childish crap? I couldn't have
written down the titles anyway, I was laughing too hard. You were smart to
conceal your poems from the public, you're enough of a laughing-stock as it
is.
BTW "Raja"--you're still a teenager, and you always will be.
globular
> On Feb 5, 4:58 am, BassPlyr23 <BassPly...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 4, 5:33 pm, Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Feb 4, 9:16 am, globular <s...@there.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl wrote:> On Feb 4, 8:47 am, globular <s...@there.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl wrote:> Check my webpage... It kicks ass ;-)
>>>>>>> http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
>>>>>> You seem to have a bias for 70s experimental music.
>>>>> I do, because 60s and 70s were the starting point of all experimental
>>>>> music.
>>>>>> Maybe you should stick with that instead of trying to fit other music
>>>>>> into it.
>>>>>> No Ultravox.
>>>> I said 70s, not 60s.
>>> Beatles are a 70s band?
>> "Let It Be" was released in May 1970. That makes the Beatles a 70's
>> band, dickwad.
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>> However, the Beatles are actually a band for the ages.
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> Beatles sound very 60s to me. Those la la la harmonies are very 60s.
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The Beatles are actually a 90s band and Kraftwerk
invented technopop.
stuth...@comcast.net
> On Feb 4, 1:05 pm, "stuthalb...@comcast.net" <stuthalb...@comcast.net>
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> > Amazingly, you have eliminated all American bands playing rock music.
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> > You eliminated all of the Allman Brothers, Grateful Dead and The Band
> > because they didn't achieve sufficient "mainstream popularity of the
> > band during their time."
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> > Ever heard of Watkins Glen?
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> > 300,000 people to see one performance by THOSE particular bands.
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> Were all of them Americans? Were all of them hippies or rednecks?
My mistake.
600,000 people attended Watkins Glen.
stuth...@comcast.net
> Sue me, I wasn't born in
> the 50s. All you oldies are so fucking intelligent.
Those of us who WERE born in the '50s actually REMEMBER bands from the
'70s like Zeppelin, The Who, the Allmans (who celebrated their 40th
anniversary last year), the Dead, The Band, Yes, etc.
stuth...@comcast.net
> On Feb 4, 1:05 pm, "stuthalb...@comcast.net" <stuthalb...@comcast.net>
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> > Amazingly, you have eliminated all American bands playing rock music.
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> least in terms of charting) the US.
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The Dead were together for 30 years before Garcia's death. The
remaining members have toured together and separately since.
The Allmans celebrated their 40th anniversary last year.
Ray
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> On Feb 4, 8:47 am, globular <s...@there.invalid> wrote:
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> > Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl wrote:> Check my webpage... It kicks ass ;-)
> > >http://rajarocker.com/holybands.html
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> > You seem to have a bias for 70s experimental music.
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> I do, because 60s and 70s were the starting point of all experimental
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> > Maybe you should stick with that instead of trying to fit other music
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You can't resist the impulse to flaunt your ignorance can you? Do you
even know who Cage, Varese, Glass, John Cale, Boulez or Stockhausen
are?
Oh, I know, they're not "ROCK". So fucking what, you can't really
understand anything without a larger context. You seem to have it all
narrowed down to music from a ten year period that features cute guys
with long hair and tight pants. That's why you only exist for us to
mock.
And you still won't even discuss Zappa who lays waste to all of your
assumptions, prejudices and arguments in too many ways to enumerate.
But he doesn't count.. because why? Not cute enough probably, or he
might just be too challenging for your homoginized, blinkered musical
POV.
Ray
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Homophobic douche
Ray
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What have you got against gays?
Seriously shithead "GAY" <> "Bad" or "Lame" or whatever you're using
it as shorthand for.
Ray
> On Feb 4, 6:51 pm, poisoned rose <prose1...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > Steffi Ivan Graf Lendl <zepflo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > I do, because 60s and 70s were the starting point of all experimental
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> > > > music history that it's fruitless to even bother correcting you.
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> > > Okay I mean experimentation in rock n roll. Of course there was
> > > experimentation done in other genres before rock n roll
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> > But it still sounds dumb. Since "rock and roll" was GENERALLY in a
> > semi-formative period during the '60s and '70s, it's silly to single out
> > just experimental rock as beginning there. Countless rock styles had a
> > "starting point" during that lonnnnng 20-year period. It's kinda like
> > saying "Childhood was crucial for me, because that's when I learned to
> > ride a bike."
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> you didnt make any point here. Rock N Roll started in the 50s. It
> wasn't really experimental in the 50s. Even if it was (there was some
> instrumental rock), it wasn't popularized to the masses that much as
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You've topped yourself for pure ignorance with that one. Didn't think
it was possible.
Ray
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> Amazingly, you have eliminated all American bands playing rock music.
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> because they didn't achieve sufficient "mainstream popularity of the
> band during their time."
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> Ever heard of Watkins Glen?
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> 300,000 people to see one performance by THOSE particular bands.
They still talk about that concert up there you know. I was tehre over
the summer for a race weekend and the folks who were there back then
say it was pretty much the same deal as what you saw in "Woodstock"...
save they had a better venue with more crowd control capability. The
"hippies" really managed to piss off the farmers for sure.