How some rock bands are overrated!
Rock FZYGC
bands which have 4 studio albums in the top 2000.
The bands which are so highly rated out there (http://
digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_artistsddd.html) but which DID NOT
MAKE the lists are:
Beach Boys (never liked their wussy style of music)
Queen (always thought that they are highly overrated in UK)
U2 (except a few songs, most of their music is dull and monotonous)
Doors (good debut album, after which Jim Morrison went pyscho)
Clash (never really liked them)
Grateful Dead (most boring band in the world)
Nirvana (hate them with a passion, they destroyed rock music)
Van Halen (dumb band)
Cream (very overrated... made some dull music, Eric Clapton is a dick,
besides)
Allman Brothers Band (boring wankers... 20 minute guitar solos are not
my cup of tea)
Fleetwood Mac (music for the girls)
AC/DC (like them the most here... but I agree not the most consistent
band)
Byrds (I like some of their songs.... havent heard much)
Eagles (HAAAAAAAAAAAATE them)
REM (most overrated band of the last 20 years?)
Aerosmith (Aeroshite)
Police (yawn songs with dumb lyrics... I like Synchronicty II though)
Metallica (they were good once... a million years ago)
Pearl Jam (okay Ten was pretty good, but after that they got boring)
Deep Purple (like them very much... but inconsistent. Mark 1 is very
underrated)
The Band (boring band)
Santana (Carlos Santana is a wanker... but some songs were cool)
Jefferson Airplane (average band... why they make a fuss about these
guys?)
Moody Blues (never really rocked... but I think they are massively
overlooked)
Sex Pistols (they made 1 album, why make a huge fuss about them?)
Bee Gees (not as bad as people think... but not that great either...
had a knack for melodies)
Yardbirds (great band... very inconsistent though)
Radiohead (the most recent of the overrated ones.... DULL music)
GNR (first album was good... rest iffy)
Chicago (first album was good... rest JUNK)
Rush (I like them a lot... but they made some truly horrible stuff)
BTW, these are the 25 bands which MADE THE LIST in that order
Beatles
Velvet Underground
Pink Floyd
Led Zeppelin
Kinks
Rolling Stones
Who
King Crimson
Yes
Talking Heads
Sonic Youth
Black Sabbath
Ramones
Death
Genesis
Can
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Opeth
Jethro Tull
Cure
Van der Graaf Generator
Ulver
Judas Priest
Kraftwerk
Steely Dan
Relayer
> Allman Brothers Band (boring wankers... 20 minute guitar solos are not
> my cup of tea)
Ya, like Zeppelin...
sheesh
Rock FZYGC
stupid. Zep never had 20 minute guitar solos in any of their studio
albums... Everyone soloed live.... Who, Deep Purple, Yes to name a
few. Allman Brothers went one step ahead and put their wanking in the
studio albums... thats just too much.
GG Allin
"poisoned rose" <shootingfi...@aol.com> wrote in message news:o8wsi.1444$jO3...@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Earlier today, I ate an apple. What are some things which others of
> you ate today?
A turd.
Lalaidama
Moody Blues (never really rocked... but I think they are massively
> overlooked)
and
Police (yawn songs with dumb lyrics... I like Synchronicty II though)
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RichL
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All your post has shown is that two web sites disagree with each other as to
who is highly rated.
And you happen to agree with one more than the other.
Did it ever occur to you that people who visit a given site frequently do so
because they like the point of view it expresses, and that when they
contribute their ratings, it reinforces these biases even more? It's really
no more than a popularity context, but a peculiarly skewed one: as the votes
roll in, people who agree with the preliminary assessment are likely to
stick around, people who don't will go to another site where they feel their
views are welcome.
Or that, generally, most of the people who post ratings at these sites are
about as qualified to judge music as my dog? And that they are really
listing what *their* favorites are, not giving objective evaluations?
Please, form your own opinions (to the extent you haven't already). And
when you come back and post again, admit they're you're opinions and prepare
to discuss/argue them as such. Don't pretend they're objective; they're
not.
Otherwise it's BS, really.
Governor Swill
<shootingfi...@aol.com> wrote:
>Earlier today, I ate an apple. What are some things which others of
>you ate today?
A nascar triple at Checkers and a chicken and pork Irish stew I made
last weekend.
Swill
--
Picture of the day
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
Governor Swill
wrote:
>2 giveaways that you are a MASSIVE FAG
>
>Moody Blues (never really rocked... but I think they are massively
>> overlooked)
I'm a fag and I think MB rocked.
>and
>
>Police (yawn songs with dumb lyrics... I like Synchronicty II though)
I just never "got" the Police. They were certainly different and in a
pleasing way, but I don't think their influence would have been much
missed had their career tanked before it began.
Caffe Mocha
> I just looked at rateyourmusic.com top 2000 and found out the first 25
> bands which have 4 studio albums in the top 2000.
>
> The bands which are so highly rated out there (http://
> digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_artistsddd.html) but which DID NOT
> MAKE the lists are:
Who cares? It's some online list. It's a popularity contest. And all
you're telling us is you don't like who other people like. Are you
really that threatened by what other people like? Are you that
intolerant of opposing views? Just relax and go listen to the music
YOU enjoy. And btw, your criticisms lack any type of substance. It's
just a bunch of "I don't like 'em" comments, which is no better than
the "I like 'em" comments that got these bands on the list in the
first place. Get over yourself!
> Police (yawn songs with dumb lyrics...
*Squeeze my lemon till the juice runs down my leg* LOL
Grinner
"Governor Swill" <governo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 23:57:58 -0400, "Lalaidama" <som...@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
>>2 giveaways that you are a MASSIVE FAG
>>
>>Moody Blues (never really rocked... but I think they are massively
>>> overlooked)
>
> I'm a fag and I think MB rocked.
>
>>and
>>
>>Police (yawn songs with dumb lyrics... I like Synchronicty II though)
>
> I just never "got" the Police. They were certainly different and in a
> pleasing way, but I don't think their influence would have been much
> missed had their career tanked before it began.
All three were great. Whether you like sting solo is another thing but
summers and copeland are brilliant musicians.
luvhockey
> Police (yawn songs with dumb lyrics... I like Synchronicty II though)
You mean like "De Do Do Do De Da Da Da"?
Who says that to anyone?
Whisper
Sting has that incredible voice & can actually sing - very rare in
modern music.
Rock FZYGC
> "Rock FZYGC" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Okay Site #1 is based on critic rating
Site #2 is based on fan rating
I am just saying fans all over the world dont seem to agree with
critics, who tend to overrate certain bands.
>
> And you happen to agree with one more than the other.
>
> Did it ever occur to you that people who visit a given site frequently do so
> because they like the point of view it expresses, and that when they
> contribute their ratings, it reinforces these biases even more?
Its not that one type of fans visit that site. Otherwise you wouldnt
see much variation in that list. In my second list you will see punk,
prog, classic rock, death metal, heavy metal, black metal,
experimental rock, alternative rock and tons of other rock subgenre.
Critics generally underrate prog and metal and overrated punk and
alternative rock.
>It's really
> no more than a popularity context, but a peculiarly skewed one: as the votes
> roll in, people who agree with the preliminary assessment are likely to
> stick around, people who don't will go to another site where they feel their
> views are welcome.
Its a rating site... there is no forum out there. Anybody can go and
rate. And I think they only count votes from people who have rated a
LOT for their top 5000 ranking.
>
> Or that, generally, most of the people who post ratings at these sites are
> about as qualified to judge music as my dog?
That you can say about critics too, making every list ridiculous. In
short, Beatles are not the greatest band then, as much sites seem to
say. And your ability to judge music is also shit then.
> And that they are really
> listing what *their* favorites are, not giving objective evaluations?
>
> Please, form your own opinions (to the extent you haven't already). And
> when you come back and post again, admit they're you're opinions and prepare
> to discuss/argue them as such. Don't pretend they're objective; they're
> not.
>
> Otherwise it's BS, really.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
You just didnt understand the objective of my post...
Critics tend to blindly put down some bands and overrate certain bands
Fans are more objective, since they actually listen to the music
before making a judgement.
PS: As a fan, I would not put down a band, just because I dont like a
certain genre. I am still not sure what is great about Death metal,
but I am willing to give it a proper try, before I put down bands like
Death which are considered legendary. I wouldnt expect that from you,
since you are stuck in the 60s and Beatles.
Rock FZYGC
retards
Rock FZYGC
> On Aug 2, 9:57 pm, Rock FZYGC <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I just looked at rateyourmusic.com top 2000 and found out the first 25
> > bands which have 4 studio albums in the top 2000.
>
> > The bands which are so highly rated out there (http://
> > digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_artistsddd.html) but which DID NOT
> > MAKE the lists are:
>
> Who cares?
I do and if you dont fuck off
> It's some online list. It's a popularity contest.
So? popularity contest among fans of a certain genre who know their
stuff... why is a shit band like KISS not near the top whereas Thin
Lizzy is? Because hard rock fans know that Thin Lizzy is a much better
hard rock band than KISS which was much more popular in the 70s.
> And all
> you're telling us is you don't like who other people like. Are you
> really that threatened by what other people like? Are you that
> intolerant of opposing views? Just relax and go listen to the music
> YOU enjoy. And btw, your criticisms lack any type of substance. It's
> just a bunch of "I don't like 'em" comments, which is no better than
> the "I like 'em" comments that got these bands on the list in the
> first place. Get over yourself!
>
> > Police (yawn songs with dumb lyrics...
>
> *Squeeze my lemon till the juice runs down my leg* LOL
thats awesome masochist lyrics. I love it.
Rock FZYGC
> Grinner wrote:
> > "Governor Swill" <governor.sw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:vfe5b31thc5of17e6...@4ax.com...
> >> On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 23:57:58 -0400, "Lalaidama" <some...@microsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> 2 giveaways that you are a MASSIVE FAG
>
> >>> Moody Blues (never really rocked... but I think they are massively
> >>>> overlooked)
> >> I'm a fag and I think MB rocked.
>
> >>> and
>
> >>> Police (yawn songs with dumb lyrics... I like Synchronicty II though)
> >> I just never "got" the Police. They were certainly different and in a
> >> pleasing way, but I don't think their influence would have been much
> >> missed had their career tanked before it began.
>
> > All three were great. Whether you like sting solo is another thing but
> > summers and copeland are brilliant musicians.
>
> Sting has that incredible voice & can actually sing - very rare in
He doesn't have a incredible voice... a rather "ordinary" one....fuck
off.
tttt
> I just looked at rateyourmusic.com top 2000 and found out the first 25
> bands which have 4 studio albums in the top 2000.
>
> The bands which are so highly rated out there (http://
> digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_artistsddd.html) but which DID NOT
> MAKE the lists are:
>
> Beach Boys (never liked their wussy style of music)
> Queen (always thought that they are highly overrated in UK)
Queen is the most underrated band in the rock history, mainly because
they fall from the USA success in the eighties
Whisper
Bands like Pink Floyd would kill for a voice like that. Face it - most
bands sing like the Joe in the street & lack talent to write truly
meaningful/smart songs.
Whisper
I wouldn't say underrated - they are top 5 alltime & shit all over
Raja's gay lists.
Rock FZYGC
> tttt wrote:
> > Rock FZYGC wrote:
> >> I just looked at rateyourmusic.com top 2000 and found out the first 25
> >> bands which have 4 studio albums in the top 2000.
>
> >> The bands which are so highly rated out there (http://
> >> digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_artistsddd.html) but which DID NOT
> >> MAKE the lists are:
>
> >> Beach Boys (never liked their wussy style of music)
> >> Queen (always thought that they are highly overrated in UK)
>
> > Queen is the most underrated band in the rock history, mainly because
> > they fall from the USA success in the eighties
BWAHAHAHAHAHHA.... Even their best 70s albums are not that great. The
only one which approaches to being a classic is A Night At The Opera.
Sheer Heart Attack is their second best and its not the most perfect
album, you will find.
Rock FZYGC
LOL... do do do da da da... how meaningful! And repeating "Dont Stand"
a thousand times doesnt make it a memorable one.
"Every Breath You Take" has got to be the dumbest song ever!
I repeat Sting never had a great voice. You probably havent heard many
rock bands or have your head stuck in your ass.
luvhockey
Sting says that he was drunk at the time he wrote those lyrics.
RichL
BINGO! Now you're getting it! "making every list is ridiculous".
My ability to judge music is great for me, shit for everybody else. So's
yours. That's my point! Musical taste is entirely subjective.
> > And that they are really
> > listing what *their* favorites are, not giving objective evaluations?
> >
> > Please, form your own opinions (to the extent you haven't already). And
> > when you come back and post again, admit they're you're opinions and
prepare
> > to discuss/argue them as such. Don't pretend they're objective; they're
> > not.
> >
> > Otherwise it's BS, really.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> You just didnt understand the objective of my post...
>
> Critics tend to blindly put down some bands and overrate certain bands
> Fans are more objective, since they actually listen to the music
> before making a judgement.
>
> PS: As a fan, I would not put down a band, just because I dont like a
> certain genre. I am still not sure what is great about Death metal,
> but I am willing to give it a proper try, before I put down bands like
> Death which are considered legendary. I wouldnt expect that from you,
> since you are stuck in the 60s and Beatles.
"Stuck in the 60s and Beatles", huh? Well I like the Beatles, but I also
like the following, which are in my collection:
Audioslave
Pearl Jam
STP
Soundgarden
Staind
Metallica
and many more, and that's just 90s. I won't even begin to list the 80s and
70s bands I have. Suffice it to say I'm not "stuck" anywhere. You struck
out with that one, Raja!
RichL
So says you. All you're doing is commenting on your tastes. Everything
else is a smokescreen. Own up, Raja!
Relayer
> I just looked at rateyourmusic.com top 2000 and found out the first 25
> bands which have 4 studio albums in the top 2000.
>
> The bands which are so highly rated out there (http://
> digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_artistsddd.html) but which DID NOT
> MAKE the lists are:
>
> Beach Boys (never liked their wussy style of music)
> Queen (always thought that they are highly overrated in UK)
The two most overated in that list are Van der Graaf Generator and
Kraftwerk
JohnB
>
> Its not that one type of fans visit that site. Otherwise you wouldnt
> see much variation in that list. In my second list you will see punk,
> prog, classic rock, death metal, heavy metal, black metal,
> experimental rock, alternative rock and tons of other rock subgenre.
>
> Critics generally underrate prog and metal and overrated punk and
> alternative rock.
>
I'm flummoxed by this. I know there's rock and rock has many sub-
genres (many of which are not listed above) but why does heavy rock
have so many sub-sub-genres? We seem to have:
heavy metal
death metal
black metal
speed metal
thrash metal
and I'm sure there are more. I doubt if I could tell one from the
other. It's as bad as dance music for sub-classification (hip hop,
house, acid, garage, trip hop, etc., etc.).
There may be a reason why critics generally underrate one genre
compared to another but I know there are certain artists who are
continually overrated by critics (IMHO of course) and I keep thinking
"I must be missing something". Then sometimes I tell myself "Life's
too short".
> >It's really
> > no more than a popularity context, but a peculiarly skewed one: as the votes
> > roll in, people who agree with the preliminary assessment are likely to
> > stick around, people who don't will go to another site where they feel their
> > views are welcome.
>
> Its a rating site... there is no forum out there. Anybody can go and
> rate. And I think they only count votes from people who have rated a
> LOT for their top 5000 ranking.
>
Is there anything stopping someone voting more than once?
<snip>
>
> You just didnt understand the objective of my post...
>
> Critics tend to blindly put down some bands and overrate certain bands
> Fans are more objective, since they actually listen to the music
> before making a judgement.
>
I would disagree about objectiveness of fans - who tend to get more
emotionally attached to particular artists and then rave about
everything they do. Check your tastes in ten years time. I bet
there'll be bands that you love now that you'll be slightly
embarrassed about then.
> PS: As a fan, I would not put down a band, just because I dont like a
> certain genre. I am still not sure what is great about Death metal,
> but I am willing to give it a proper try, before I put down bands like
> Death which are considered legendary. I wouldnt expect that from you,
> since you are stuck in the 60s and Beatles.
I like what I like - and that's a lot. I'll give a listening chance
to anything I've not heard nefore to see if I like it - but I don't
see the point in trying to like something I've not liked in the past.
It doesn't matter how many times people and/or critics tell me
Prince's Purple Rain is one of the best albums ever - I can't stand
it.
As for metal - in whatever sub-genres - there are some bands I can
tolerate in small quantities, others I can't stand for more than a few
seconds.
Rock FZYGC
Then stop asking people to make lists out there. Stop everybody to
stop critiquing movies, music ... anything.
Just because you think any time of critiquing is subjective and hence
NOT VALID, does not mean, critiquing is not allowed.
Tomorrow, if it is proven that eating SHIT is good for health and some
people start eating SHIT and say it is tastier you will believe that?
Would you agree if there is a rock band list which has Poison at #1
and Beatles at #999?
NO! some things are not acceptable.
> out with that one, Raja!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Rock FZYGC
Liking them is different. putting them ahead of better bands on a list
is different. I like The Verve more than Beatles, but would never put
The Verve over Beatles on any list.
People who are stuck in the 60s just simply consider 60s music is
superior to 70s, 80s and 90s. And have a biased attiude against other
great bands not from the 60s.
Would you put Metallica over Beach Boys on a list? Even if in the next
few years, Metallica releases a bunch of great albums? I think you
would still put Beach Boys ahead... because you like the 60s so much
and have an elitist attitude.
> I won't even begin to list the 80s and
> 70s bands I have. Suffice it to say I'm not "stuck" anywhere. You struck
> out with that one, Raja!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Rock FZYGC
Overrated by whom? Critics dont care about VDGG. Kraftwerk is well
rated by critics. But fans seem to rate VDGG over Kraftwerk (at least
on rateyourmusic)
Governor Swill
wrote:
>Bands like Pink Floyd would kill for a voice like that. Face it - most
>bands sing like the Joe in the street & lack talent to write truly
>meaningful/smart songs.
Pink Floyd would have died with a voice like that. Sting's voice is
more "distinctive" than "good".
Rock FZYGC
> <snip>
>
>
>
> > Its not that one type of fans visit that site. Otherwise you wouldnt
> > see much variation in that list. In my second list you will see punk,
> > prog, classic rock, death metal, heavy metal, black metal,
> > experimental rock, alternative rock and tons of other rock subgenre.
>
> > Critics generally underrate prog and metal and overrated punk and
> > alternative rock.
>
> I'm flummoxed by this. I know there's rock and rock has many sub-
> genres (many of which are not listed above) but why does heavy rock
> have so many sub-sub-genres? We seem to have:
>
> heavy metal
> death metal
> black metal
> speed metal
> thrash metal
Prog has many sub genres, so does prog rock (prog folk, neo-prog,
psych-prog, krautrock, prog electronic to name a few) and alternative
rock (dream pop, britpop, grunge, space rock, neo-psychedelia to name
a few )
>
> and I'm sure there are more. I doubt if I could tell one from the
> other.
you have to listen to more metal
>It's as bad as dance music for sub-classification (hip hop,
> house, acid, garage, trip hop, etc., etc.).
Dance music? lol... that is an insult to electronic music. Dont call
it dance. Electronic music has a lot of genres... trance, techno,
ambient, dance-pop, trip hop, house etc to name a few.
>
> There may be a reason why critics generally underrate one genre
> compared to another
because they dont have patience for other genres and generally
ignorant
> but I know there are certain artists who are
> continually overrated by critics (IMHO of course) and I keep thinking
> "I must be missing something". Then sometimes I tell myself "Life's
> too short".
>
> > >It's really
> > > no more than a popularity context, but a peculiarly skewed one: as the votes
> > > roll in, people who agree with the preliminary assessment are likely to
> > > stick around, people who don't will go to another site where they feel their
> > > views are welcome.
>
> > Its a rating site... there is no forum out there. Anybody can go and
> > rate. And I think they only count votes from people who have rated a
> > LOT for their top 5000 ranking.
>
> Is there anything stopping someone voting more than once?
I dont know. But I doubt they consider the votes of someone who rates
very less. They have posters who have rated like 10,000 albums etc.
Its not a stupid site, you will see quality albums at the top of the
list.
I dont see Union top Close to the Edge for Yes... so it is reliable.
trust me on that.
Rock FZYGC
> "Rock FZYGC" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
I dont have a specific taste.... I listen to all kinds of music.... I
have heard and liked some of Frank Sinatra, Paul Van Dyk, Mozart,
Elvis Presley, Beatles, Slayer, Richard Marx, Enya, Velvet
Underground, Vangelis to name a few... I have a very broad taste.
Rock FZYGC
> On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 23:42:01 +1000, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> >Bands like Pink Floyd would kill for a voice like that. Face it - most
> >bands sing like the Joe in the street & lack talent to write truly
> >meaningful/smart songs.
>
> Pink Floyd would have died with a voice like that. Sting's voice is
> more "distinctive" than "good".
good point. I think it is the same with Bono of U2. Not a great voice,
but distinctive
Rock FZYGC
> wrote:
>
> >Bands like Pink Floyd would kill for a voice like that. Face it - most
> >bands sing like the Joe in the street & lack talent to write truly
> >meaningful/smart songs.
>
> Pink Floyd would have died with a voice like that. Sting's voice is
> more "distinctive" than "good".
Even though I love Floyd, I dont think any of the singers in the band
had an awesome voice. They all had voice which suited the music very
well. I like Barrett's voice followed by Wright and Gilmour. Waters
did a great job in some songs like SOYCD but he is the weakest IMO.
Rick
>
> Even though I love Floyd, I dont think any of the singers in the band
> had an awesome voice. They all had voice which suited the music very
> well. I like Barrett's voice followed by Wright and Gilmour.
What did Wright sing? I don't remember him even having a microphone,
e.g. most recently:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvH127PFmcY
Pretty much anything post-Barrett that was sung melodically I always
assumed was Gilmour, with Waters doing the.....other stuff.
Slubberdegullion
> Overrated by whom? Critics dont care about VDGG. Kraftwerk is well
> rated by critics. But fans seem to rate VDGG over Kraftwerk (at least
> on rateyourmusic)
Yeah - but then you are a bit of a knob aren't you?
Steven Sullivan
Fuck off, Raja.
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metaphor, narrative and, sometimes, claymation." - B. Mason
RichL
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> Critics tend to blindly put down some bands and overrate certain bands
> Fans are more objective, since they actually listen to the music
> before making a judgement.
Wrong.
Fans rate highly the bands they like. Why is this not clear?
And you really think critics don't listen to what they rate? You're nuts.
Ultimately I don't go by what either fans or critics say. In the end,
they're both subjective, regardless of what you say.
> PS: As a fan, I would not put down a band, just because I dont like a
> certain genre. I am still not sure what is great about Death metal,
> but I am willing to give it a proper try, before I put down bands like
> Death which are considered legendary. I wouldnt expect that from you,
> since you are stuck in the 60s and Beatles.
I'm not stuck anywhere. There are bands from *any* decades that I like
better than some bands from *any* other decade. And on any given day, I'll
choose something to listen to based on my mood.
If I thought the 60's were superior across the board, I wouldn't listen to
anything else. But I do listen to all kinds of stuff.
IOW, you're preconceived notion about me is crap.
Kevan Smith
read anything you post, which means I want you to stay in my killfile. You,
yes you, stand still, laddie!
Kevan Smith
> I dont have a specific taste.
More specifically, you don't have _any_ taste.
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sn...@thnood.urg
Rock FZYGC
LOL...Wright sang all the great songs Floyd ever made
Astronomy Domine (along with Syd... Wright sings most of the song)
Matilda Mother (along with Syd)
Let There Be More Light (along with Gilmour and Waters)
Remember A Day (alone)
See-Saw (alone)
Summer '68
Echoes (along with Gilmour... Wright sings most of the song... with
Gilmour giving harmonies)
Burning Bridges (along with Gilmour)
Stay (alone)
Time (along with Gilmour... both sing seperate parts)
Us and Them (Wright gives harmonies to Gilmour)
Eclipse (Wright and Gilmour give harmonies to Waters)
Wearing the Inside out (along with Gilmour... Wright is the main
singer)
So as you seen most of the best Floyd songs are sung by Wright. They
all had similar voices, so people dont know about this.
Bassplayer12
>>bands sing like the Joe in the street & lack talent to write truly
>>meaningful/smart songs.
>
> Pink Floyd would have died with a voice like that. Sting's voice is
> more "distinctive" than "good".
Sometimes, distinctive also means "recognizable" which helps an awefull lot
if you want my humble opinion. Ian Gillan, Jon Anderson, Freddy Mercury,
Roger Daltrey, Geddy Lee? They are important in the band's "sound". A singer
other than Sting may not have brought The Police to stardom like he did.
Rock FZYGC
> >>Bands like Pink Floyd would kill for a voice like that. Face it - most
> >>bands sing like the Joe in the street & lack talent to write truly
> >>meaningful/smart songs.
>
> > Pink Floyd would have died with a voice like that. Sting's voice is
> > more "distinctive" than "good".
>
> Sometimes, distinctive also means "recognizable" which helps an awefull lot
> if you want my humble opinion. Ian Gillan, Jon Anderson, Freddy Mercury,
> Roger Daltrey, Geddy Lee? They are important in the band's "sound". A singer
> other than Sting may not have brought The Police to stardom like he did.
That might be true. But he still doesnt have a great voice. Nor does
Geddy Lee or Ozzy Osborne
I like Mercury, Plant, Gillan, Hammill, Jon Anderson (the other
Anderson.. Ian Anderson has a ordinary voice) the most. I never
really liked Daltrey that much but I think he is okay... at least he
is better than Sting.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Swill
> > --
> > Picture of the day
> >http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html- Hide quoted text -
Relayer
>
> - Show quoted text -
Overated by "me"
The same criteria you use for your never ending ratings and listings
and assesments.
And no, it's not that critics dont care abou VDGG..they don't care FOR
VDGG.
who the fuck is rateyourmusic anyway? You and your 132 cousins?
Rock FZYGC
Whatever!
>
> who the fuck is rateyourmusic anyway? You and your 132 cousins?- Hide quoted text -
Go find out yourself! Its a site for fans who are generally more
intelligent than the ones over here .. ofcourse excluding me ;-)
Martin Dixon
Rock FZYGC <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I dont have a specific taste.... I listen to all kinds of music.... I
> have heard and liked some of Frank Sinatra, Paul Van Dyk, Mozart,
> Elvis Presley, Beatles, Slayer, Richard Marx, Enya, Velvet
> Underground, Vangelis to name a few... I have a very broad taste.
>
Who is your favourite classical composer? Which is your favourite
opera? Who is your favourite folk artist, who is your favourite
country singer. Oh you mentioned Mozart and Enya, I suppose that's a
start.
--
Created on the Iyonix PC - the world's fastest RISC OS computer.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/m.dixon4/
Martin Dixon
Caffe Mocha <amr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Aug 2, 9:57 pm, Rock FZYGC <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I just looked at rateyourmusic.com top 2000 and found out the first 25
>> bands which have 4 studio albums in the top 2000.
>>
>> The bands which are so highly rated out there (http://
>> digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_artistsddd.html) but which DID NOT
>> MAKE the lists are:
>
> Who cares? It's some online list. It's a popularity contest. And all
> you're telling us is you don't like who other people like. Are you
> really that threatened by what other people like? Are you that
> intolerant of opposing views? Just relax and go listen to the music
> YOU enjoy. And btw, your criticisms lack any type of substance. It's
> just a bunch of "I don't like 'em" comments, which is no better than
> the "I like 'em" comments that got these bands on the list in the
> first place. Get over yourself!
>
>> Police (yawn songs with dumb lyrics...
>
> *Squeeze my lemon till the juice runs down my leg* LOL
>
>
Well, for my taste there seems to be a lot of jazz albums on that site
that are highly rated. For the most part I don't much like jazz, it
seems to me it is mainly an excuse for incompetent musicians to
play/sing out of tune. But I'm willing to be proved wrong!
Best 5 albums of all time for those who like lists. That's easy.
1. Wish you were here - Pink Floyd
2. The 5000 spirits or the Layers of the onion - Incredible String
Band.
3. Close to the Edge - Yes
4. Who's Next - The Who
5. The Dark side of the Moon - Pink Floyd
Note: they are all British! And even if I go to my top tem there is
only one non-British Album, and that is Irish!
Martin
RichL
news:1186177296.2...@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Translation: they agree with you.
jim...@aol.com
> The two most overated in that list are Van der Graaf Generator and
> Kraftwerk
To this newsgroup too. I'd add Can to that list.
RichL
<jim...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I think most of us agree that we can can "Can".
Rock FZYGC
> In message <1186162003.782554.38...@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>
> Rock FZYGC <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I dont have a specific taste.... I listen to all kinds of music.... I
> > have heard and liked some of Frank Sinatra, Paul Van Dyk, Mozart,
> > Elvis Presley, Beatles, Slayer, Richard Marx, Enya, Velvet
> > Underground, Vangelis to name a few... I have a very broad taste.
>
> Who is your favourite classical composer?
Mozart
>Which is your favourite
> opera?
I have never heard any opera
> Who is your favourite folk artist
Does Bob Dylan count?
>, who is your favourite
> country singer.
Johnny Cash
Rock FZYGC
I think your list is good except for Who's Next. It is the best Who
album but will never make my top 10 or even top 20.
Rock FZYGC
> "Rock FZYGC" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
To some extent... I am 100% sure Revolver is not the best album ever.
Its not even close to being the best Beatles album ever.
RichL
It is to me. With Rubber Soul, my two favorites. But yours are different.
And that's OK Raja, really it is!
Vive le difference!!
Comme si, comme sa!
Plus la change, plus la meme chose!
Avec les pommes des terres, s'il vous plait!
Rock FZYGC
>
> - Show quoted text -
I find Rubber Soul and Revolver to be equally good. My 4th and 5th
favorite Beatles albums after Sgt Pepper, MMT and Abbey Road.
Rock FZYGC
Spoken like a true idiot, who really hasnt listened to Can. Dont
comment on bands you havent listened to at all.
Can, a seminal German band, was at the forefront of the heralded and
legendary Krautrock scene. Their music was ahead of its time, blending
musique concrete, funk, drone rock and world music into their own
unique style, and proved to be influential on a lot of music to
follow, from post rock to electronica to indie to hip hop. They also
gained notoriety for their jamming prowess, as their lengthy jams both
live and on their albums showcased impeccable group interaction.
Can was formed by bassist Holger Czukay, a student of Karlheinz
Stockhausen, in Cologne, Germany, 1968. Other founding members were
Michael Karoli (guitar), Czukay's pupil; Irmin Schmidt (keyboards),
another Stockhausen alumnus; and Jaki Liebezeit, a free jazz drummer.
The earliest line up also featured flautist David Johnson, who soon
left the band. Originally they were called Inner Space, but soon re-
christened themselves Can. They recruited an African-American vocalist
Malcolm Mooney, and recorded some music which was later released as
Delay 1968 (1981). Their proper debut Monster Movie came out in 1969
and it showed a strong The Velvet Underground influence as well as
Mooney's surreal stream-of-consciousness vocalizing. It also included
"You Doo Right", a 20 minute mantra that was an excerpt of a 6 hour
jam, only ending when their amps started to smoke. Such fondness for
jamming accompanied Can throughout its lifespan.
Due to a nervous breakdown, Mooney soon left the band. When looking
for a new singer, they met a Japanese expatriate Kenji "Damo" Suzuki
who was busking on the streets of Cologne. His eccentric vocalizing
was spontaneous and multi-lingual, often even in no discernible
language. He alternated between mumbling and screeching, but sounded
melodic all the same. This approach was unique in regards of using
voice as an instrument. He would be their singer for the next few
years, providing vocals to Can's classic albums, starting with
Soundtracks (1970), that compiled Can's soundtrack works for
independent film makers. Subsequent records would become their most
revered, as they pioneered electronic effects and textures, studio
tricks and relied heavily on the metronomic polyrhythmic drumming of
Jaki Liebezeit and Suzuki's distinctive vocalizing. Can's magnum opus
was Tago Mago, a double album recorded in 1971 and an ambitious
melange of psychedelia, funk, improvisation and musique concrete. Ege
Bamyasi (1972) featured funkier rhythms and showcased the drummer
Liebezeit and vocalist Suzuki most prominently. Future Days (1973) was
carried by its otherworldly, often ambient textures. In 1973 however,
Damo Suzuki became a Jehovah's Witness and due to newly found
religious convictions, he had to leave the band. Suzuki returned to
music in the mid-80s.
Unable to find a new vocalist, Can decided to share vocal duties
between Karoli and Schmidt. Soon Over Babaluma, first post-Suzuki
album was released in 1974 and it was heavily influenced by ethnic
music. This was also the last album to be recorded on 2-track, as all
their records thus far had been. Landed (1975) was the first Can album
to be recorded in a multitrack studio. Flow Motion (1976) featured
Can's Top 30 hit single "I Want More" and the album was notably
influenced by disco and reggae. Holger Czukay decided to resign from
bass playing and instead started to experiment with short wave radios.
Such ideas would later fully blossom on his solo album Movies (1980).
Two ex-Traffic members Anthony Reebop Kwaku Baah (percussion) and
Rosco Gee (bass) joined. The new line up recorded Saw Delight (1977).
Czukay left in May 1977, later claiming the reason for his departure
was "because they wanted to become perfect, like Santana!" Out of
Reach was cut in 1978 and it was subsequently shunned by the members
of Can - even the record label Spoon who rereleased Can's back
catalogue, didn't rerelease it. The group soon disbanded. Their last,
self-titled album came out in 1979.
Can reformed with the original line up (with Mooney) in late 80s and
the line up delivered Rite Time (1989). In 1997 a Can remix album
Sacrilege appeared, featuring artists and bands influenced by Can
(Sonic Youth, UNKLE, Brian Eno, The Orb and others). Guitarist Michael
Karoli sadly died in 2001 from cancer.
jim...@aol.com
Who cares. Don't ever mention those 3 shit groups on this newsgroup
again.
fishandchips
wrote:
> Earlier today, I ate an apple. What are some things which others of
> you ate today?
Crow
frschoonover
If you were to ask me who I think is the most overrated rock band in
the history of music.Do you know what my answer would be?
You can read it below:
The Sex Pistols
I do happen to have their Never Mind The Bullocks album.But I think
they are the most overrated rock band in music history because they
had only one REAL abum.They garnered more controversy than record
sales and they also garnered more controversy than any other rock band
in history.I mean,don't get me wrong,they were a good band that played
good music but a lot of people over talked about them and they were
more in the news than they were in concert.Plus,two record labels
dropped them as fast as they signed them,which were EMI and A&M.The
reason why because both the label's other artists demanded they drop
them.Plus,they really never did get off the ground.After that one REAL
album,the band split up due to personal difficulties and one of it's
founding members killed himself overdosing on heroin.
Of course,this is just my opinion.I just thought that I would get it
off my chest.Thanks.Sincerely Frank R.Schoonover
Grinner
"Whisper" <beav...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> Rock FZYGC wrote:
>> On Aug 3, 8:23 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>> Grinner wrote:
>>>> "Governor Swill" <governor.sw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:vfe5b31thc5of17e6...@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 23:57:58 -0400, "Lalaidama" <some...@microsoft.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 2 giveaways that you are a MASSIVE FAG
>>>>>> Moody Blues (never really rocked... but I think they are massively
>>>>>>> overlooked)
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Police (yawn songs with dumb lyrics... I like Synchronicty II though)
>>>>> pleasing way, but I don't think their influence would have been much
>>>>> missed had their career tanked before it began.
>>>> All three were great. Whether you like sting solo is another thing but
>>>> summers and copeland are brilliant musicians.
>>> Sting has that incredible voice & can actually sing - very rare in
>>> modern music.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> He doesn't have a incredible voice... a rather "ordinary" one....fuck
>> off.
>>
>
>
> Bands like Pink Floyd would kill for a voice like that. Face it - most
> bands sing like the Joe in the street & lack talent to write truly
> meaningful/smart songs.
Gilmour did alright.
Grinner
No all youv'e stated is a few songs Wright has sung on, and not sung solo
on.
Grinner
"RichL" <rple...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> On Aug 2, 11:00 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > "Rock FZYGC" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >
>> > > Pearl Jam (okay Ten was pretty good, but after that they got boring)
>> > > Deep Purple (like them very much... but inconsistent. Mark 1 is very
>> > > underrated)
>> > > The Band (boring band)
>> > > Santana (Carlos Santana is a wanker... but some songs were cool)
>> > > Jefferson Airplane (average band... why they make a fuss about these
>> > > guys?)
>> > > overlooked)
> as to
>> > who is highly rated.
>>
>> Okay Site #1 is based on critic rating
>> Site #2 is based on fan rating
>>
>> I am just saying fans all over the world dont seem to agree with
>> critics, who tend to overrate certain bands.
>>
>> >
>> > And you happen to agree with one more than the other.
>> >
>> > Did it ever occur to you that people who visit a given site frequently
> do so
>> > because they like the point of view it expresses, and that when they
>> > contribute their ratings, it reinforces these biases even more?
>>
>>
>> Its not that one type of fans visit that site. Otherwise you wouldnt
>> see much variation in that list. In my second list you will see punk,
>> prog, classic rock, death metal, heavy metal, black metal,
>> experimental rock, alternative rock and tons of other rock subgenre.
>>
>> Critics generally underrate prog and metal and overrated punk and
>> alternative rock.
>>
>> >It's really
>> > no more than a popularity context, but a peculiarly skewed one: as the
> votes
>> > roll in, people who agree with the preliminary assessment are likely to
>> > stick around, people who don't will go to another site where they feel
> their
>> > views are welcome.
>>
>> Its a rating site... there is no forum out there. Anybody can go and
>> rate. And I think they only count votes from people who have rated a
>> LOT for their top 5000 ranking.
>>
>> >
>> > Or that, generally, most of the people who post ratings at these sites
> are
>> > about as qualified to judge music as my dog?
>>
>> That you can say about critics too, making every list ridiculous. In
>> short, Beatles are not the greatest band then, as much sites seem to
>> say. And your ability to judge music is also shit then.
>
> BINGO! Now you're getting it! "making every list is ridiculous".
>
> My ability to judge music is great for me, shit for everybody else. So's
> yours. That's my point! Musical taste is entirely subjective.
>
>
>> > And that they are really
>> > listing what *their* favorites are, not giving objective evaluations?
>> >
>> > Please, form your own opinions (to the extent you haven't already).
>> > And
>> > when you come back and post again, admit they're you're opinions and
> prepare
>> > to discuss/argue them as such. Don't pretend they're objective;
>> > they're
>> > not.
>> >
>> > Otherwise it's BS, really.- Hide quoted text -
>> >
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>>
>> Critics tend to blindly put down some bands and overrate certain bands
>> Fans are more objective, since they actually listen to the music
>> before making a judgement.
>>
>> PS: As a fan, I would not put down a band, just because I dont like a
>> certain genre. I am still not sure what is great about Death metal,
>> but I am willing to give it a proper try, before I put down bands like
>> Death which are considered legendary. I wouldnt expect that from you,
>> since you are stuck in the 60s and Beatles.
>
> "Stuck in the 60s and Beatles", huh? Well I like the Beatles, but I also
> like the following, which are in my collection:
>
> Audioslave
> Pearl Jam
> STP
> Soundgarden
> Staind
> Metallica
> and many more, and that's just 90s. I won't even begin to list the 80s
> and
> 70s bands I have. Suffice it to say I'm not "stuck" anywhere. You struck
> out with that one, Raja!
>
Rich, you have a very open mind.
>
Grinner
> is different. I like The Verve more than Beatles, but would never put
> The Verve over Beatles on any list.
>
> People who are stuck in the 60s just simply consider 60s music is
> superior to 70s, 80s and 90s. And have a biased attiude against other
> great bands not from the 60s.
> Would you put Metallica over Beach Boys on a list? Even if in the next
> few years, Metallica releases a bunch of great albums? I think you
> would still put Beach Boys ahead... because you like the 60s so much
> and have an elitist attitude.
Rich has what you lack, an open mind. Otherwise you wouldn't throw hissy
fits when you asinine silly little lists are criticised, you should be
thankful anyone actually takes the time to patronise your lits with any
comments at all.
>
>
>> I won't even begin to list the 80s and
>> 70s bands I have. Suffice it to say I'm not "stuck" anywhere. You
>> struck
>> out with that one, Raja!- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Grinner
> On Aug 3, 11:03 am, JohnB <johnbo...@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Its not that one type of fans visit that site. Otherwise you wouldnt
>> > see much variation in that list. In my second list you will see punk,
>> > prog, classic rock, death metal, heavy metal, black metal,
>> > experimental rock, alternative rock and tons of other rock subgenre.
>>
>> > Critics generally underrate prog and metal and overrated punk and
>> > alternative rock.
>>
>> genres (many of which are not listed above) but why does heavy rock
>> have so many sub-sub-genres? We seem to have:
>>
>> heavy metal
>> death metal
>> black metal
>> speed metal
>> thrash metal
>
> Prog has many sub genres, so does prog rock (prog folk, neo-prog,
> psych-prog, krautrock, prog electronic to name a few) and alternative
> rock (dream pop, britpop, grunge, space rock, neo-psychedelia to name
> a few )
You wouldn't understand it if it wasn't something you could pigeon hole.
>>
>> and I'm sure there are more. I doubt if I could tell one from the
>> other.
>
> you have to listen to more metal
>
>>It's as bad as dance music for sub-classification (hip hop,
>> house, acid, garage, trip hop, etc., etc.).
>
> Dance music? lol... that is an insult to electronic music. Dont call
> it dance. Electronic music has a lot of genres... trance, techno,
> ambient, dance-pop, trip hop, house etc to name a few.
>
>>
>> There may be a reason why critics generally underrate one genre
>> compared to another
>
> because they dont have patience for other genres and generally
> ignorant
>
>> but I know there are certain artists who are
>> continually overrated by critics (IMHO of course) and I keep thinking
>> "I must be missing something". Then sometimes I tell myself "Life's
>> too short".
>>
>> > >It's really
>> > > no more than a popularity context, but a peculiarly skewed one: as
>> > > the votes
>> > > roll in, people who agree with the preliminary assessment are likely
>> > > to
>> > > stick around, people who don't will go to another site where they
>> > > feel their
>> > > views are welcome.
>>
>> > Its a rating site... there is no forum out there. Anybody can go and
>> > rate. And I think they only count votes from people who have rated a
>> > LOT for their top 5000 ranking.
>>
>> Is there anything stopping someone voting more than once?
>
> I dont know. But I doubt they consider the votes of someone who rates
> very less. They have posters who have rated like 10,000 albums etc.
> Its not a stupid site, you will see quality albums at the top of the
> list.
>
> I dont see Union top Close to the Edge for Yes... so it is reliable.
> trust me on that.
>
>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>>
>> > You just didnt understand the objective of my post...
>>
>> > Critics tend to blindly put down some bands and overrate certain bands
>> > Fans are more objective, since they actually listen to the music
>> > before making a judgement.
>>
>> I would disagree about objectiveness of fans - who tend to get more
>> emotionally attached to particular artists and then rave about
>> everything they do. Check your tastes in ten years time. I bet
>> there'll be bands that you love now that you'll be slightly
>> embarrassed about then.
>>
>> > PS: As a fan, I would not put down a band, just because I dont like a
>> > certain genre. I am still not sure what is great about Death metal,
>> > but I am willing to give it a proper try, before I put down bands like
>> > Death which are considered legendary. I wouldnt expect that from you,
>> > since you are stuck in the 60s and Beatles.
>>
>> I like what I like - and that's a lot. I'll give a listening chance
>> to anything I've not heard nefore to see if I like it - but I don't
>> see the point in trying to like something I've not liked in the past.
>> It doesn't matter how many times people and/or critics tell me
>> Prince's Purple Rain is one of the best albums ever - I can't stand
>> it.
>> As for metal - in whatever sub-genres - there are some bands I can
>> tolerate in small quantities, others I can't stand for more than a few
>> seconds.
>
>
Grinner
> On Aug 3, 8:02 am, Caffe Mocha <amr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> On Aug 2, 9:57 pm, Rock FZYGC <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I just looked at rateyourmusic.com top 2000 and found out the first 25
>> > bands which have 4 studio albums in the top 2000.
>>
>> > The bands which are so highly rated out there (http://
>> > digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_artistsddd.html) but which DID NOT
>> > MAKE the lists are:
>>
>
> I do and if you dont fuck off
>
>> It's some online list. It's a popularity contest.
>
> stuff... why is a shit band like KISS not near the top whereas Thin
> Lizzy is? Because hard rock fans know that Thin Lizzy is a much better
> hard rock band than KISS which was much more popular in the 70s.
Kiss' first album was great minus two tracks - love theme from Kiss
(listenable) and firehouse (slow and just a garage band song). Deuce, Cold
Gin, Strutter, Nothin to Lose, 100,000 Years, Black Diamond. All great
songs. Kiss alive was a great live album capturing the best of what they did
up to that point, other early great tracks, c'mon and love me, r&r all nite,
parasite, let me go r&r. Kiss far from sucked and they played with passion
even if htey weren't the world's greatest musicians. Having said that, some
of their songs are harder to play than some of led zeppelin's basic riff
oriented songs IMO.
Rock and roll over and Destroyer had some great tracks on them too. Kiss
were great for a period of about six years and owned the back half of the
seventies, and no one can argue they put on the best theatre rock than any
of the showier hair bands in tights that followed and they influenced, Van
Halen for one. Lots of people rate Kiss as influences and aren't ashamed to
admit it, so again raja your subjective opinion isn't worth a squirt of
fermented gin's piss.
TL had some bummers too, some rather some basic songs and dud lyrics.
'jailbreak' for one.
>
>> And all
>> you're telling us is you don't like who other people like. Are you
>> really that threatened by what other people like? Are you that
>> intolerant of opposing views? Just relax and go listen to the music
>> YOU enjoy. And btw, your criticisms lack any type of substance. It's
>> just a bunch of "I don't like 'em" comments, which is no better than
>> the "I like 'em" comments that got these bands on the list in the
>> first place. Get over yourself!
>>
>> > Police (yawn songs with dumb lyrics...
>>
>> *Squeeze my lemon till the juice runs down my leg* LOL
>
> thats awesome masochist lyrics. I love it.
>
masochist? geez, sex must be a painful for you then.
Grinner
"RC_Moonpie" <rc_mo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 18:57:01 -0700, Rock FZYGC <zepf...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I just looked at rateyourmusic.com top 2000 and found out the first 25
>>bands which have 4 studio albums in the top 2000.
>>
>>The bands which are so highly rated out there (http://
>>digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_artistsddd.html) but which DID NOT
>>MAKE the lists are:
>
>
>
> MOST ANNOYING LIST POSTER ON USENET
>
> 1) RAJA
> 2) ZEPFLOYES
3) Rock FZYGC
4) R^A^J^A
5) R*A*J*A (real inventive those two, variations on a theme, he excels at
that))
6) Lonely Young Paranoid Vicious Killer
IBen Getiner
> I just looked at rateyourmusic.com top 2000 and found out the first 25
> bands which have 4 studio albums in the top 2000.
>
> The bands which are so highly rated out there (http://
> digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_artistsddd.html) but which DID NOT
> MAKE the lists are:
>
Well, by this logic, Chjuck Berry is a hack. He'z only had one #1 hit,
you see... Just another overrated azzhole.
IBen Getiner
Grinner
>I just looked at rateyourmusic.com top 2000 and found out the first 25
> bands which have 4 studio albums in the top 2000.
>
> The bands which are so highly rated out there (http://
> digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_artistsddd.html) but which DID NOT
> MAKE the lists are:
>
> Beach Boys (never liked their wussy style of music)
obviously escaped your attention.
> Queen (always thought that they are highly overrated in UK)
Brian May is a genius, they wrote songs better than many other bands, a
night at the opera was superb and shows what a truly versatile band they
were. Best harmonies in Rock.
> U2 (except a few songs, most of their music is dull and monotonous)
You may not like them but they have become a supergroup, and lots of their
stuff is great, the joshua tree is an all time classic, like it or not,
prior to that they were even better. the Edge is a great rythym player and
very good at tasteful use of guitar effects.
> Doors (good debut album, after which Jim Morrison went pyscho)
I could easily list another great four doors album, obviously you hvaen't
ever been into the doors. Strange days was great, Morisson Hotel, LA Woman.
Again they might not have been the best musicians int he world but the some
of their parts was greater and each an integral member.
> Clash (never really liked them)
> Grateful Dead (most boring band in the world)
> Nirvana (hate them with a passion, they destroyed rock music)
Nirvana changed the face of rock, killed rock? bwahahaha, Culled off hair
band rock is more appropriate and the last lingering prog rock musician.
Cobain may not have been the world's best guitar player but he sure was a
great lyricist and song writer.
One of those bands that come along every ten years or so and change
everything with one album. I see you hate the sex pistols too, raja. It's
not Cobain's fault that no one has come along since to achieve what he did
13 years ago, nor should the death of rock and roll be attributed to his
suicide. TRHCP, jane's addicton, pearl jam, faith no more, dinosaur jnr,
nine inch nails, sonic youth and the pixies all seemed to have suvived Kurt
Cobain's death from that genre.
Blame ecstacy, hip hop, techno and 'bling' for the death of rock and roll.
Kurt had great rock influences and was far more knowledgable about rock and
his blending of styles than you will ever be. How many led belly or david
bowie tracks can you play let alone humbly introduce aspiring new talents to
audiences. the meat puppets showed a lot of promise.
> Van Halen (dumb band)
great guitarist who changed the way people play guitar. their first album
was awesome.
> Cream (very overrated... made some dull music, Eric Clapton is a dick,
> besides)
Cream's short tenure was one of the greatest in Rock and Roll history, and
blind faith were even better. Eric Clapton introduced the Blues back in to
rock and roll and was a pioneer of oeverdriven guitar sounds. Not one bad
track on Dislraeli Gears
> Allman Brothers Band (boring wankers... 20 minute guitar solos are not
> my cup of tea)
some of the best dual guitar sounds ever recorded.
> Fleetwood Mac (music for the girls)
A long history with British Blues you should investigate before making such
stupid comments.
> AC/DC (like them the most here... but I agree not the most consistent
> band)
AC/DC again raw, particularly their pre international days with Bon Scott.
Their latter success introducedthe world to what they did previously which
rates higher than their brain Johnston days IMO.
> Byrds (I like some of their songs.... havent heard much)
> Eagles (HAAAAAAAAAAAATE them)
Not a Joe Walsh fan neither, I take it?
> REM (most overrated band of the last 20 years?)
Wrote great songs, you may not like their music but then again your lists
suck anyway. Not a particular fan, but never dissed them either, wrote some
great lyrics.
> Aerosmith (Aeroshite)
toys in the attic and rocks were great. must had something going for them to
fill as many stadiums as tey did.
> Police (yawn songs with dumb lyrics... I like Synchronicty II though)
Great musiciains, both summers and copeland are well respected. Outlandis
D'amour and regatta de blanc are all time greats. Roxanne is a great track,
"I can't stand losing you", everythinbg on RDB is great, well produced too.
It also served to showcase a great drummer's ability.
> Metallica (they were good once... a million years ago)
> Pearl Jam (okay Ten was pretty good, but after that they got boring)
> Deep Purple (like them very much... but inconsistent. Mark 1 is very
> underrated)
> The Band (boring band)
> Santana (Carlos Santana is a wanker... but some songs were cool)
Never heard Caravanserai? The whole album is brilliant. and you call
yourself a prog rock fan and don't rate that album?
> Jefferson Airplane (average band... why they make a fuss about these
> guys?)
> Moody Blues (never really rocked... but I think they are massively
> overlooked)
> Sex Pistols (they made 1 album, why make a huge fuss about them?)
Because they were responsible for one of /the/ monumental changes to modern
rock and roll, the sex pistols got rid of all that 70's over indulgent,
monolithic bullshit with one fell swoop, notably bloated prog fucking rock.
I'd rather listen to NMTB over Tales of Topographic Oceans anyday, and steve
jones was underrated as a guitar player, as too Glenn Matlock's contribution
to that band.
> Bee Gees (not as bad as people think... but not that great either...
> had a knack for melodies)
they sucked from wo to go.
> Yardbirds (great band... very inconsistent though)
> Radiohead (the most recent of the overrated ones.... DULL music)
> GNR (first album was good... rest iffy)
Most overrated act of the 80's and 90's. One of those bands grunge exposed.
Slash was a decent guaitr player however IMHO.
> Chicago (first album was good... rest JUNK)
> Rush (I like them a lot... but they made some truly horrible stuff)
>
> BTW, these are the 25 bands which MADE THE LIST in that order
> Beatles
> Velvet Underground
> Pink Floyd
> Led Zeppelin
> Kinks
> Rolling Stones
> Who
> King Crimson
> Yes
> Talking Heads
> Sonic Youth
> Black Sabbath
> Ramones
> Death
who?
> Genesis
> Can
who?
> Creedence Clearwater Revival
> Opeth
who?
> Jethro Tull
> Cure
> Van der Graaf Generator
> Ulver
who?
Grinner
"IBen Getiner" <Lapp...@aol.com> wrote in message
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who the fuck is opeth and ulver?
>
>
>
> IBen Getiner
>
Relayer
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Dude, when you label an album by a particular band as your 4th and 5th
favorite, it's clear you have some psycholoical problem..OCD or
something
Grinner
"Relayer" <relay...@aol.com> wrote in message
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He needs to remind himself and have it all pigeon holed, in case he forgets.
Grinner
"Rock FZYGC" <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Yet you are consistently told you are a list spamming idiot. Funny that.
RichL
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It helps to have had a bunch of kids who were deeply into music. I've got 4
(now adults); both of my sons still play, the older one runs his own
recording studio and makes a real good living at it. When they were all
teenagers, they'd turn me on to the stuff they were listening to, and I in
return would educate them on the origins and influences of the stuff they
liked. I'll never forget the looks on their faces when I showed them how
the octave leads they liked in the neo-punk style derived from Django
Reinhardt!
Anyway I find that kids are more receptive to learning about the history of
rock and the great old bands if you're open minded about what they're into
also. My 22-year-old daughter now proudly sports a "Doors" sticker on her
car!
Whisper
>
> I dont have a specific taste.... I listen to all kinds of music.... I
> have heard and liked some of Frank Sinatra, Paul Van Dyk, Mozart,
> Elvis Presley, Beatles, Slayer, Richard Marx, Enya, Velvet
> Underground, Vangelis to name a few... I have a very broad taste.
>
We really love hearing about your tastes - can you indulge us with some
more top 10 lists?
Governor Swill
wrote:
>> So as you seen most of the best Floyd songs are sung by Wright.
>
>No all youv'e stated is a few songs Wright has sung on, and not sung solo
>on.
>
>They
>> all had similar voices, so people dont know about this.
>>
So did the Beatles. It's difficult to tell them apart.
Swill
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Bassplayer12
>
> It is to me. With Rubber Soul, my two favorites. But yours are
> different.
> And that's OK Raja, really it is!
The following need some corrections:
But sorry if the accents don't show up.
Here goes, let's try it:
> Vive le difference!!
Vive la différence
> Comme si, comme sa!
Comme ci comme ça
> Plus la change, plus la meme chose!
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
> Avec les pommes des terres, s'il vous plait!
Avec des pommes de terre, s'il-vous-plaît
RichL
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As you can see, it's been a while :-)
IBen Getiner
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Amos and Andy.....?
IBen Getiner
IBen Getiner
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> > "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I've been down that road three times myself. They all think they were
around at the birth of cool. Just like you did when you were a
obnoxious, punk azzhole kid... thumbing your nose at authority.. You
tell them the truth and they still think you're square...
You see, Ritch....
Well, my name is a number
A piece of plastic film
And I'm growin' funny flowers
In my little window sill
Dont you know I'm a 2,000 man
And my kids, they just don't
understand me at all
Well my wife still respects me
I really misused her
I am having an affair
With the random computer
Don't you know I'm a 2,000 man
And my kids, they just don't
understand me at all
Oh daddy, proud of your planet
Oh mummy, proud of your sun
Oh daddy, proud of your planet
Oh mummy. proud of your sun
Oh daddy, your brain's still flashin'
Like it did when you were young
Or do you come down crashin'
Seeing all the things you'd done
All was a big put on
And you know who's the 2000 man
And your kids they just won't
understand you at all
RichL
Heh...not one of Jagger/Richards' best efforts...but I get your point.
Didn't have too much trouble with mine, fortunately.
The trick for me at least was to never act shocked...no matter what they do.
Or get pissed (for the most part) at them rebelling, which is natural. I
always was open with 'em about my own youthful episodes.
Governor Swill
wrote:
>> People who are stuck in the 60s just simply consider 60s music is
>> superior to 70s, 80s and 90s. And have a biased attiude against other
>> great bands not from the 60s.
>> Would you put Metallica over Beach Boys on a list? Even if in the next
>> few years, Metallica releases a bunch of great albums? I think you
>> would still put Beach Boys ahead... because you like the 60s so much
>> and have an elitist attitude.
>
>Rich has what you lack, an open mind. Otherwise you wouldn't throw hissy
>fits when you asinine silly little lists are criticised, you should be
>thankful anyone actually takes the time to patronise your lits with any
>comments at all.
Have you noticed that his crossposts to other groups usually lead to
long threads? But the conversants quickly learn to plonk or ignore
Raja as anathema to any sort of intelligent discourse.
Governor Swill
wrote:
>> Prog has many sub genres, so does prog rock (prog folk, neo-prog,
>> psych-prog, krautrock, prog electronic to name a few) and alternative
>> rock (dream pop, britpop, grunge, space rock, neo-psychedelia to name
>> a few )
>
>You wouldn't understand it if it wasn't something you could pigeon hole.
I know a guy who would love to pigeonhole Raja.
Bassplayer12
>> The following need some corrections:
>> But sorry if the accents don't show up.
>> Here goes, let's try it:
>>
>> > Vive le difference!!
>>
>> Vive la différence
>>
>> > Comme si, comme sa!
>>
>> Comme ci comme ça
>>
>> > Plus la change, plus la meme chose!
>>
>> Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
>>
>> > Avec les pommes des terres, s'il vous plait!
>>
>> Avec des pommes de terre, s'il-vous-plaît
>
> As you can see, it's been a while :-)
Don't stop practicing... It'll come back. If you don't use it, you loose it.
I am thankfull to all those who helped me and still help me learn the
English language.
Martin Dixon
fishandchips <Chippa...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Aug 2, 10:10?pm, poisoned rose <shootingfishinabar...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>> Earlier today, I ate an apple. What are some things which others of
>> you ate today?
>
> Crow
>
Fish and Chips!
--
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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/m.dixon4/
Governor Swill
<pere...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>>> Avec des pommes de terre, s'il-vous-plaît
>>
>> As you can see, it's been a while :-)
>
>Don't stop practicing... It'll come back. If you don't use it, you loose it.
>I am thankfull to all those who helped me and still help me learn the
>English language.
It's "lose" and "thankful". ;-)
Governor Swill
<cut...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>In article <tgk9b3tebmlndoh68...@4ax.com>,
> Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Have you noticed that his crossposts to other groups usually lead to
>> long threads? But the conversants quickly learn to plonk or ignore
>> Raja as anathema to any sort of intelligent discourse.
>
>He ought to be nominated for a Usenet Kook Award. Do they still do those?
Raja doesn't even begin to qualify. He's more a loser than a kook.
Governor Swill
wrote:
>In message <1186196141.2...@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
> fishandchips <Chippa...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> On Aug 2, 10:10?pm, poisoned rose <shootingfishinabar...@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Earlier today, I ate an apple. What are some things which others of
>>> you ate today?
>>
>> Crow
>>
>Fish and Chips!
A honey lemonade sour cream shrimp salad with shredded iceberg, raw
sweet peas, diced yam, currants and sliced almonds served open face on
warm, crusty bread.
marks...@gmail.com
> "Governor Swill" <governor.sw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> > On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 23:57:58 -0400, "Lalaidama" <some...@microsoft.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >>2 giveaways that you are a MASSIVE FAG
>
> >>Moody Blues (never really rocked... but I think they are massively
> >>> overlooked)
>
>
> >>and
>
> >>Police (yawn songs with dumb lyrics... I like Synchronicty II though)
>
> > pleasing way, but I don't think their influence would have been much
> > missed had their career tanked before it began.
>
> All three were great. Whether you like sting solo is another thing but
> summers and copeland are brilliant musicians.
Summers is a good rhythm player, but his leads don't do anything for
me. Copeland is certainly a competent timekeeper.
KJ Collins
> Rock FZYGC wrote:
> > On Aug 3, 8:23 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >> Grinner wrote:
> >>> "Governor Swill" <governor.sw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:vfe5b31thc5of17e6...@4ax.com...
> >>>> On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 23:57:58 -0400, "Lalaidama" <some...@microsoft.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> 2 giveaways that you are a MASSIVE FAG
> >>>>> Moody Blues (never really rocked... but I think they are massively
> >>>>>> overlooked)
> >>>> I'm a fag and I think MB rocked.
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> Police (yawn songs with dumb lyrics... I like Synchronicty II though)
> >>>> I just never "got" the Police. They were certainly different and in a
> >>>> pleasing way, but I don't think their influence would have been much
> >>>> missed had their career tanked before it began.
> >>> All three were great. Whether you like sting solo is another thing but
> >>> summers and copeland are brilliant musicians.
> >> modern music.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > He doesn't have a incredible voice... a rather "ordinary" one....fuck
> > off.
>
> Bands like Pink Floyd would kill for a voice like that. Face it - most
> bands sing like the Joe in the street & lack talent to write truly
> meaningful/smart songs.
>
The quality of it is debateable, but when I've heard him live his
voice is quite weak (as in not powerful). I like his music, but was
especially disappointed the first time I heard him in concert with The
Police back in the day. Thought it might be an off night, but the two
times I've seen him since have just been more of the same.
KJ Collins
> On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 23:42:01 +1000, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> >Bands like Pink Floyd would kill for a voice like that. Face it - most
> >bands sing like the Joe in the street & lack talent to write truly
> >meaningful/smart songs.
>
> more "distinctive" than "good".
>
Exactly.
KJ Collins
> but distinctive
I'd rate Bono's voice as much better than Sting's. Listen to "Bad"
during his performance at Live Aid. Sting's voice never came close to
that. He's been croaking out songs for years.
And while Bono's voice struggled during the Popmart and Elevation
tours, he sounded great during Vertigo. He was doing a very good
version of the Pavarotti part on "Miss Sarajevo."
KJ Collins
> "Rock FZYGC" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > Queen (always thought that they are highly overrated in UK)
>
> Brian May is a genius, they wrote songs better than many other bands, a
> night at the opera was superb and shows what a truly versatile band they
> were. Best harmonies in Rock.
>
Brian May just turned in his doctoral thesis in astronomy. He'll
defend it later in the year.
I was very impressed when I heard that.
RichL
When I was growing up, my grandparents spoke French often (they were from
Quebec), but spoke perfect English and mainly used French when they were
talking about things they didn't want us grandchildren to know! I found out
early on that it was in my best interest to learn what I could :-) But I
only took one year of it in high school, so my written French is poor. And
I never speak it!
It's probably time for another trip to Montreal.