The Best and Worst of KMFDM
foley
Best Album: Nihil
Worst Album: What Do You Know Deutschland?
Best Cover Art (album) : Symbols
Worst Cover Art (album): Money
Best Male Vocalist: Sascha K.
Worst Male Vocalist: Morgan Adjei
Best Female Vocalist: Dorona Alberti
Worst Female Vocalist: Sigrid Meyer
Best Song on WDYKD?: Kicking Ass
Worst Song on WDYKD?: The Unrestrained Use of Excessive Force
Best Song on DBYT: Disgust
Worst Song on DBYT: Killing (FYSK)
Best Song on UAIOE: More & Faster 243
Worst Song on UAIOE: Ganja Rock
Best Song on Naive: Liebisleid
Worst Song on Naive: Go To Hell
Best Song on Money: Money
Worst Song on Money: Under Satan (dub)
Best Song on Angst: A Drug Against War
Worst Song on Angst: Hole In The Wall
Best Song on Nihil: Dis-O-Bediance
Worst Song on Nihil: Terror
Best Song on Xtort: Blame
Worst Song on Xtort: Apathy
Best Song on Symbols: Anarchy
Worst Song on Symbols: Down & Out
Best Song on Adios: D.I.Y
Worst Song on Adios: Witness
Best Vocal Performance: Juke Joint Jezebel
Worst Vocal Performance: No Peace
Best Video: Son of a Gun
Worst Video: More & Faster
Best Vocal Contributor: Kevin Olgivie
Worst Vocal Contributor: Nina Hagen
***Nick***
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Soma576 wrote in message <19990717001457...@ng-cg1.aol.com>...
>man... you know there isn't a hell of a lot going on when the only posts
people
>can think up are POLLS
>
>*cringe*
>
>so um... how about those cubbies?
the cubs are in the same shape as this NG lately, showing signs of life but
not quite out of critical condition yet. a.m.mdfmk could officially be
pronounced dead at this point, not even the spammers are going near it.
foley
Soma576 wrote:
> man... you know there isn't a hell of a lot going on when the only posts people
> can think up are POLLS
>
> *cringe*
>
> so um... how about those cubbies?
Dude polls are fun! And I've been here a year now, i'm not exactly a 'cubbie'
whatever that means (i presume that means newbie)
***Nick***
> andy
Soma576
can think up are POLLS
*cringe*
so um... how about those cubbies?
andy
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foley wrote in message <378FEC43...@cari.net>...
'cubbie'
>whatever that means (i presume that means newbie)
I think he was talking about the Chicago Cubs baseball team, but hey I could
be wrong.
Soma576
>be wrong.
>
i was indeed. now THIS is a topic that we could probably expand on....
or maybe we should talk about the new nin, if that's anyone's fancy?
andy
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Soma576 wrote in message <19990717023014...@ng-cg1.aol.com>...
I haven't heard the new NIN single, but I have heard a couple of people slam
it as a let down. Five years or whatever since Downward Spiral and I think
anything less than creative genius will be a let down. It is only a single
though so who knows, maybe if it sucks the album will be cool. I hope he has
killed the guitar rock NIN and is heading in the vein of more experimental
stuff (i.e. Side Two of TDS, A Warm Place and on). Either way I think
everyone's in for a surprise.
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WemonLedge
I haven't heard the new NIN single, but I have heard a couple of people slam
it as a let down. Five years or whatever since Downward Spiral and I think
anything less than creative genius will be a let down. It is only a single
though so who knows, maybe if it sucks the album will be cool. I hope he has
killed the guitar rock NIN and is heading in the vein of more experimental
stuff (i.e. Side Two of TDS, A Warm Place and on). Either way I think
everyone's in for a surprise.
You've got me thinking now. Our society can't help but be disappointed with
something new from something old (not that NIN is old or anything, but I'm sure
you know what I mean). We just expect too much, and are never happy with what
we get.
On the bright side this single has had absolutly no HYPE! Not that I've notice
anyhow. That's always pleasing to me.
I'm sure NIN won't dissapoint me with the new album, coz this will actually be
the first time I've experienced a new album from Trent, I'm willing to refresh
my interests in NIN if Trent puts out some cool shit, and I have faith that he
will.
I for one won't be dissapointed with MDFMK(the circle is complete, wasn't that
fast), I don't need faith to know that Sasha, and Tim are gonna kick some ass
with this album. If they don't catch me with it at first there's no doubt I'll
grow to love it, as i did with SYBOLS, and as most of you did with XTORT
(hopefully).
My hopes for both albums is a lot of instrumental work. Like every other song.
Does anyone feel like the release of this Single is almost surreal? like it's
not really gonna happen?
Billl
PS: To the guy who started this thread, you had some fucked up best & worst
picks (no offense, those are your opinions).
PPS: I finally found a Chris Connelly album at the store today! It's the one
with the funny name. Can't wait to tell you what I think!
PPPS: We can discuss a little NIN here can't we? oh well, got to post
something.
binky
neat... i heard it from mp3 turned back into cd audio, so it lost
some of the really highs and lows, but it was still pretty neat... not
sure where to find them, but ill see if i can get that info from my
digital pimp... --binky--
Soma576
the song is called 'the day the world went away'
there are NO drums in it. it's about 4 min long, and all there is, is textured,
distorted, guitar and synth washing around in an autechre-like way. there are
8 lines of quiet, actually SUNG verse, with a strange chorus that kinda sounds
like humming (at least on my shitty mp3). during the verse, there's just
synths slowly phasing around.
THIS is what all of nin fans have been waiting for. the new single is going to
commercially flop because all the fake kiddies want to hear more of 'the
perfect drug'. well, this song as no groove to the average radio listener, and
is only appreciable by those of us who understand this kind of music. we have
arrived, neighbors
oh yeah, the B-side, starfuckers inc, is supposedly damn cool broken/supernaut
era NIN. i heard a 2khz quality sample of it or something, and it sounds sweet
just from that! i guess in the nin world, starfuckers inc is a bigger hit than
TDTWWA. my comp lost the connection while dl'ing the mp3 of it!! i'll try
again later and post a better description.
nin fans, we are in for one hell of trip
andy
Lance
> My hopes for both albums is a lot of instrumental work. Like every other song.
> Does anyone feel like the release of this Single is almost surreal? like it's
> not really gonna happen?
I heard that the NIN album (I don't remember I heard or read or whatever
this, so it's not too likely at being correct ... just passing it along)
is going to be a double CD set with one disc being all instrumentals.
For some reason tho, this doesn't strike me as likely ... even for NIN,
who probably try their darndest to be unlikely.
Anyway, I plan on getting the album the first day it's out ... I've
never been disappointed by a NIN album before and I don't see why it'll
happen now (same for KMFDM and maybe 2 others.)
-DWLance
David Manning
-Z
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MP3's are NOT an effective means of ripping the system....
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Generation Genocide .... this just leaves you cool... Like a fool
waiting in a prison cell waiting to give in... But that doesn't make me
wanna stop!!!! NO WAY!!!" -Atari Teenage Riot
Pinhead the Cenobite
wrote:
>
>Soma576 wrote in message <19990717001457...@ng-cg1.aol.com>...
>>man... you know there isn't a hell of a lot going on when the only posts
>people
>>can think up are POLLS
>>
>>*cringe*
>>
>>so um... how about those cubbies?
>
>the cubs are in the same shape as this NG lately, showing signs of life but
>not quite out of critical condition yet. a.m.mdfmk could officially be
>pronounced dead at this point, not even the spammers are going near it.
It hasn't got enough traffic to attract the spammers yet, as they use
usenet stats to determine target groups for their drivel. It'll be the
release date of the new MDFMK album before it sees much in the way of
posting traffic.
--
I can only imagine young Cpl. Tommy Higgins, crouched behind the
Maxim, unloading entire belts of ammo into the screaming, panicking
crowd in thunderous 20-second bursts, thinking "Fooking christ, it just
doesn't get any better than this."
- Rev. Syd Midnight
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Soma576 wrote in message <19990717120629...@ng-fi1.aol.com>...
>ok. here's a description of the new single...
>
>the song is called 'the day the world went away'
>there are NO drums in it. it's about 4 min long, and all there is, is
textured,
>distorted, guitar and synth washing around in an autechre-like way. there
are
>8 lines of quiet, actually SUNG verse, with a strange chorus that kinda
sounds
>like humming (at least on my shitty mp3). during the verse, there's just
>synths slowly phasing around.
in an autechre like way? oh this should be good
>THIS is what all of nin fans have been waiting for. the new single is going
to
>commercially flop because all the fake kiddies want to hear more of 'the
>perfect drug'. well, this song as no groove to the average radio listener,
and
>is only appreciable by those of us who understand this kind of music. we
have
>arrived, neighbors
this is what all old school NIN fans have been waiting for, a progression of
sound
>oh yeah, the B-side, starfuckers inc, is supposedly damn cool
broken/supernaut
>era NIN. i heard a 2khz quality sample of it or something, and it sounds
sweet
>just from that! i guess in the nin world, starfuckers inc is a bigger hit
than
>TDTWWA. my comp lost the connection while dl'ing the mp3 of it!! i'll try
>again later and post a better description.
please do I want to know what it sounds like
>nin fans, we are in for one hell of trip
and we've waited a damn long time to take it
Soma576
>never been disappointed by a NIN album before and I don't see why it'll
>happen now (same for KMFDM and maybe 2 others.)
>
>-DWLance
>
... and i'll be in line right next to you.
nine inch nails has never failed to kick ass (well except for parts of the
perfect drug video - i hate those parts where he's running thru the hedges or
he's standing there with his arms up in the wind... but the outro is pretty
cool, in fact probably my favorite thing nin has ever written - i just love
that 'without you...' part. it's so perfect) and i can already tell that this
album will be more of what's good. hopefully it will garner less attention in
the media than they want, cuz then it's for all the hardcore fans, which is
what trent really wants anyway, i think
good thing i get paid the day the single comes out (july 20th) cuz i don't even
have $5 to my name right now....
oh yeah, there will not be a video for TDTWWA, but ANOTHER single is slated for
like August 10th. don't remember name, but that one WILL have a video i
guess.... and there aren't any promo cd's either, only vinyl i believe. but i
could be wrong.
andy
Xroirraw
Soma576
>
he probably doens't need any more money. i read an interview where he said he
just picked up four Nord Lead's. i really don't believe the crap about trent
selling out. he just struck a nerve with the right people and nine inch nails
got popular. i really don't think he liked it as much as everyone says. now
he just has the money to make an album with good backing and he has the gear to
make it sound good. plus, he has all the money for touring he'll need.
andy
Nin 129979
am looking forward to this release. The single is due out this tuesday (20th of
July) I have to say the starfuckers song is really heavy almost a heavy
metalish. It's an ok song, but I'm gonna buy the single, I know it's going to
be great. The Fragile is a 2 CD set due out in september. Man am i stoked. I've
waited 5 years for this! The radio station said that Trent said this was the
best work he thought he had ever done. Since it is a 2 CD set I hope there is a
great mixture of musical tastes.
>ok. here's a description of the new single...
>
>the song is called 'the day the world went away'
>there are NO drums in it. it's about 4 min long, and all there is, is
>textured,
>distorted, guitar and synth washing around in an autechre-like way. there
>are
>8 lines of quiet, actually SUNG verse, with a strange chorus that kinda
>sounds
>like humming (at least on my shitty mp3). during the verse, there's just
>synths slowly phasing around.
>
>THIS is what all of nin fans have been waiting for. the new single is going
>to
>commercially flop because all the fake kiddies want to hear more of 'the
>perfect drug'. well, this song as no groove to the average radio listener,
>and
>is only appreciable by those of us who understand this kind of music. we
>have
>arrived, neighbors
>
>oh yeah, the B-side, starfuckers inc, is supposedly damn cool
>broken/supernaut
>era NIN. i heard a 2khz quality sample of it or something, and it sounds
>sweet
>just from that! i guess in the nin world, starfuckers inc is a bigger hit
>than
>TDTWWA. my comp lost the connection while dl'ing the mp3 of it!! i'll try
>again later and post a better description.
>
>nin fans, we are in for one hell of trip
>
>andy
>
>
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Rob
"KMFDM will never stop!" KMFDM-D.I.Y
"It's very important to play the record over and over, because you learn by
listining." KMFDM-Anarchy (remix)
"Respect my authoritah!" Eric Cartman (South Park)
SaintOfHeI
Best Album: Symbols
Worst Album: DBYT
Best Cover Art (album) : Adios (gotta love that guy splatting on the
windshield, heh)
Worst Cover Art (album): Nihil (it ain't BRUTE!)
Best Male Vocalist: Sascha K.
Worst Male Vocalist: Morgan Adjei
Best Female Vocalist: Dorona Alberti
Worst Female Vocalist: Sigrid Meyer
Best Song on WDYKD?: Me I Funk
Worst Song on WDYKD?: The Unrestrained Use of Excessive Force
Best Song on DBYT: Disgust
Worst Song on DBYT: Killing (FYSK)
Best Song on UAIOE: More & Faster 243
Worst Song on UAIOE: Ganja Rock
Best Song on Naive: Liebisleid
Worst Song on Naive: Piggybank
Best Song on Money: Vogue
Worst Song on Money: Spiritual House
Best Song on Angst: A Drug Against War
Worst Song on Angst: Hole In The Wall
Best Song on Nihil: Terror
Worst Song on Nihil: Ultra
Best Song on Xtort: Craze
Worst Song on Xtort: Blame
Best Song on Symbols: Stray Bullet
Worst Song on Symbols: Spit Sperm
Best Song on Adios: Full Worm Garden
Worst Song on Adios: Sycophant (It's not a WORST song, but it's just my least
favorite...I still like it)
Best Vocal Performance: Stray Bullet
Worst Vocal Performance: Anything that Morgan guy did...totally ruined UAIOE
Best Vocal Contributor: Kevin Olgivie
Worst Vocal Contributor: That Morgan Guy again.
daku...@mindspring.com
> selling out. he just struck a nerve with the right people and nine inch
nails
> got popular. i really don't think he liked it as much as everyone says.
now
> he just has the money to make an album with good backing and he has the
gear to
> make it sound good. plus, he has all the money for touring he'll need.
No way did Trent sell out. Although I love NIN to death and I think Downward
Spiral forms the epitome of Industrial Music (along with various KMFDM songs
and Skinny Puppy's Last Rights album) the main reason for the NIN popularity
with the release of Downward Spiral is pretty much because Trent has an
amazing voice, a voice that is at once angry and sad. I don't think the
ripping sounds of En Esch or Ogre's scratching vocals would ever go over
well with a typical audience (though Rammstein's surprising popularity may
defeat this). Trent had the rythym, the emotion, and the sound to capture
people in that way that only Industrial can, however I believe if he sang
more like En Esch you would not see such a following. NIN never sold out, it
was scared away by the prospect of doing so...at least that is my reason for
the long wait for this latest NIN album...that and I truly believe that
Downward Spiral was an album built out of emotion and after that the emotion
was gone...Trent had to wait for something else to kick him back to making
music.
Personally I am prepared to hate the new NIN album and I most likely
will...at least for a few weeks until non-stop listening forces me to
realize that it is just as good as the rest but in different ways...I'm
actually waiting to see what is going to happen for a tour...I wasn't into
NIN (or industrial) back during the last tour and I keep hearing stories
about it. I'm sure it must be quite an experience no matter what is being
played, although nothing can top the KMFDM Tour '97 when I got to see En
Esch and Ogre do Godlike as the final encore...nothing will ever top that.
Xroirraw
Soma576
>No way did Trent sell out. Although I love NIN to death and I think Downward
>Spiral forms the epitome of Industrial Music (along with various KMFDM songs
>and Skinny Puppy's Last Rights album) the main reason for the NIN popularity
>with the release of Downward Spiral is pretty much because Trent has an
>amazing voice, a voice that is at once angry and sad. I don't think the
>ripping sounds of En Esch or Ogre's scratching vocals would ever go over
>well with a typical audience (though Rammstein's surprising popularity may
>defeat this). Trent had the rythym, the emotion, and the sound to capture
>people in that way that only Industrial can,
i'd have to disagree. i'm not convinced that nine inch nails is industrial at
all. to me, industrial is more along the lines of bands like foetus - i.e.
crap banging around for drums and pipes, hammers, etc. with the exception of
maybe a couple songs on broken, nine inch nails is just a band that happens to
use the same tools to make music that an industrial band would. the only thing
that made nine inch nails popular was the fact that he just knows how to put
all those elements together in a way that can express his emotions and still be
commerically viable. that's it. he's not industrial, and there is no way that
the radio public is ready for industrial. no one listens to it because it's
harsh and it doesn't convey a happy let's-go-cruise-down-hollywood-strip
message. most of the pop on the radio uses the same gear. shit like jamiroqui
actually uses a nord lead, just like KMFDM, NIN and probably a handful of other
bands. dance music or synth pop like ace of bass and spice girls uses
synthesizers and drum machines in probably a pretty close way that KMFDM uses
them. it's all how you write the music, and the finished product you are
aiming for. industrial has never been known for 'capturing people' as you put
it.
don't get me wrong - i have every nine inch nails album and a couple singles
and imports. i like it for the emotion in the music. last year pretty hate
machine helped me deal with a lot of problems and now i see all of his work in
a whole new light. i listen to it because i can connect with it. isn't that
what the point of listening to music is supposed to be?
andy
foley
NovaLyte wrote:
> >>Best Female Vocalist:
> >Nicole Blackman on HUSUTUA
>
> That wasn't Nicole. The only song she ever did was "Dogma" off of Xtort.I don't
> know who sang on HUSUTUA.
I believe it was Christine Siewert.
***Nick***
>
>
> -NovaLyte-
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> You will know my name is the Lord Of Caffeination. . .
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rose
Nihil.
>Worst Album:
Today, UAIOE
>Best Cover Art (album) :
Adios
DBYT
>Best Male Vocalist:
Sascha K.
>Worst Male Vocalist:
>Best Female Vocalist:
Nicole Blackman on HUSUTUA
The one on Adios who isn't Nina Hagen. which one was that?
>Best Song on WDYKD?:
Conillon and Me I Funk.
>Worst Song on WDYKD?: The Unrestrained Use of Excessive Force
>Best Song on DBYT: Disgust
>Worst Song on DBYT:
>Best Song on UAIOE:
Thumb Thumb
>Worst Song on UAIOE:
Loving Can Be An Art.
>Best Song on Naive:
Disgust Live
>Worst Song on Naive:
None.
>Best Song on Money
Vogue.
>Worst Song on Money:
None.
>Best Song on Angst:
BloodEvil.
>Worst Song on Angst:
A Drug Against War. (And I actually like it.)
>Best Song on Nihil:
Disobedience.
>Worst Song on Nihil:
None.
>Best Song on Xtort:
Rules.
>Worst Song on Xtort:
Craze.
>Best Song on Symbols:
Unfit. Figure out why and get a cookie.
>Worst Song on Symbols:
None.
>Best Song on Adios:
Today.
>Worst Song on Adios:
Full Worm Garden.
>Best Vocal Performance:
Dogma.
>Worst Vocal Performance:
None.
Rose
"But it will kill the pain."
"It will kill the senses, too. At least with pain, you know you're alive."
-"Cat on a Hot Tin Roof"
Rose
>I think Downward
>Spiral forms the epitome of Industrial Music
Dear God.
Xroirraw
NG goes to hell.
Rose wrote:
> Dear God.
NovaLyte
>Nicole Blackman on HUSUTUA
That wasn't Nicole. The only song she ever did was "Dogma" off of Xtort.I don't
know who sang on HUSUTUA.
-NovaLyte-
David Manning
Rose wrote:
>
> Dakushna wrote:
> >I think Downward
> >Spiral forms the epitome of Industrial Music
>
> Dear God.
>
> Rose
Hmmmm. Analogy time.....
nin is to Industrail music as Barry Manalow is to Rock Music.
TUFKA 13
<daku...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > i really don't believe the crap about trent
> > selling out.
> No way did Trent sell out.
Well, I certainly find it funny that Closer got censored for radio
play. If the "fucking song" *had not* been censored for radio play, I'd
bet that he would have sold far fewer copies of that album...
> Although I love NIN to death and I think Downward
> Spiral forms the epitome of Industrial Music
You should really get some Foetus and Coil- some of NIN's better stuff
has been heavily influenced/re-mixed/etc by them.
NIN's fun, but the epitome of industrial they ain't.
-Matt
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TUFKA 13 wrote in message
<190719991033321313%sinner@|NOSPAM|mechanism.net>...
Or Einsturzende Neubaten as well
>NIN's fun, but the epitome of industrial they ain't.
The epitome of industrial would probably be Throbbing Gristle or one of the
older bands.
binky
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:40:22 -0500, "collapse" <ma...@hiwaay.net>
wrote:
>
>Soma576 wrote in message <19990717120629...@ng-fi1.aol.com>...
>>ok. here's a description of the new single...
>>
>>the song is called 'the day the world went away'
>>there are NO drums in it. it's about 4 min long, and all there is, is
>textured,
>>distorted, guitar and synth washing around in an autechre-like way. there
>are
>>8 lines of quiet, actually SUNG verse, with a strange chorus that kinda
>sounds
>>like humming (at least on my shitty mp3). during the verse, there's just
>>synths slowly phasing around.
>
>in an autechre like way? oh this should be good
>
>>THIS is what all of nin fans have been waiting for. the new single is going
>to
>>commercially flop because all the fake kiddies want to hear more of 'the
>>perfect drug'. well, this song as no groove to the average radio listener,
>and
>>is only appreciable by those of us who understand this kind of music. we
>have
>>arrived, neighbors
>
>this is what all old school NIN fans have been waiting for, a progression of
>sound
>
>>oh yeah, the B-side, starfuckers inc, is supposedly damn cool
>broken/supernaut
>>era NIN. i heard a 2khz quality sample of it or something, and it sounds
>sweet
>>just from that! i guess in the nin world, starfuckers inc is a bigger hit
>than
>>TDTWWA. my comp lost the connection while dl'ing the mp3 of it!! i'll try
>>again later and post a better description.
>
>please do I want to know what it sounds like
>
>>nin fans, we are in for one hell of trip
>
Rose
now..
Warriorx wrote:
>Hey! Where've you been? See, you take away the women and the whole goddamned
>NG goes to hell.
Rose
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really qualified to fit that term? Einsturzende Neubaten, COIL, who else.
That travelling show STOMP is more industrial than some of the electro crap
that gets labeled as such.
Xroirraw wrote in message <379412A3...@earthlink.net>...
>Yeah, they pretty much coined the term. Everything else is either an
>adaptation or some sort of heavy rock with samples and conviniently
labelled
>"industrial".
David Manning
Xroirraw wrote:
>
> Oh, so having sex is more important than _us_? I see how it is.
>
> Rose wrote:
>
> > Moving, sex, moving, psychology, moving, schoolwork...it sucked. But I'm back
> > now..
--
Rose
>Oh, so having sex is more important than _us_? I see how it is.
>
David Manning
fufilling sex or the internet, which would you choose?
And that gerbil doesnt count
-z
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Xroirraw wrote in message <3794286D...@earthlink.net>...
>Yeah, to quote Al Jourgenson:
>"Industrial? This isn't fucking spot-welding here."
I saw that interview, wasn't it 120 minutes with that British shithead Dave
Kendall?
>STOMP definitly is more industrial than a lot of stuff out there *cough NIN
>*cough I just had to throw that in there *cough*
yeah that's why I usually call most stuff electro-industrial, but there are
a few bands doing noisy, banging on metal industrial like Noisex, Converter,
etc.
collapse
got them out of the store) wanted them back.
Xroirraw wrote in message <3794405B...@earthlink.net>...
>Aw, why'd you have to get rid of the gerbil?
Xroirraw
Xroirraw
Rose wrote:
Xroirraw
"Industrial? This isn't fucking spot-welding here."
STOMP definitly is more industrial than a lot of stuff out there *cough NIN
*cough I just had to throw that in there *cough*
Xroirraw
Cleophus T. Jenkins
did, it was one of WORST cds i've ever heard.....
Sinner writes:
>NIN's fun, but the epitome of industrial they ain't.
>
Taylor
http://members.aol.com/indecks/InDecks.html
I used to pity myself, but then I met you.
Xroirraw
collapse wrote:
> I saw that interview, wasn't it 120 minutes with that British shithead Dave
> Kendall?
Honestly, I don't know = ) Someone quoted it, and I'm quoting it. I know it's
legit, though, as many people have made reference to it.
> yeah that's why I usually call most stuff electro-industrial, but there are
> a few bands doing noisy, banging on metal industrial like Noisex, Converter,
> etc.
I haven't gotten a chance to listen to them. So much music, so little time...
Rose
>The pet stores he was shoplifting them from(I'll let you figure out how he
>got them out of the store) wanted them back.
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...
NovaLyte
>did, it was one of WORST cds i've ever heard.....
>
What did you hate about it? I happen to love it. It's one of the few CDs that
gets constant play in my car. It's definitely not NIN, but it's not supposed to
be. It's Kevin McMahon being Kevin McMahon. The production *quality* left a lot
to be desired, but the actual quality of the music was first-rate. For those of
you who haven't heard it, it sounded a lot like NIN's "Piggy", but with some
Die Warzau-esque jazziness. It's not for everyone (obviously) but I fucking
love it.
Xroirraw
Dave started talking about Richard Gere and gerbils...
Rose wrote:
> Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...
Minister of Cumbersome Objects
> Spiral forms the epitome of Industrial Music
Damnit! Everyone here knows that Blink 182 are the kings of modern Industrial
Music!
Flame me and you'll be sorry....
<-=Jester=->
If you're happy and you know it, grab a dill!
If your face and ass don't show it, grab a dill!
If you're having trouble crapping, or your snatch is quite nappy
Wrap your tiny hands around that 12" dill!
Minister of Cumbersome Objects
>fufilling sex or the internet, which would you choose?
I know what I'd choose...
>And that gerbil doesnt count
oh....
damnit!
Xroirraw
Backseat..er..Backstreet Boys.
Xroirraw
Minister of Cumbersome Objects wrote:
> oh....
>
> damnit!
>
collapse
though.......
Xroirraw wrote in message <3794812D...@earthlink.net>...
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Xroirraw wrote in message <37946941...@earthlink.net>...
>
>
>collapse wrote:
>
>> I saw that interview, wasn't it 120 minutes with that British shithead
Dave
>> Kendall?
>
>Honestly, I don't know = ) Someone quoted it, and I'm quoting it. I know
it's
>legit, though, as many people have made reference to it.
I have it on tape here at the house. I also have the Stigmata video and the
RevCo video for Stainless Steel Providers on the same tape.
>> yeah that's why I usually call most stuff electro-industrial, but there
are
>> a few bands doing noisy, banging on metal industrial like Noisex,
Converter,
>> etc.
>
>I haven't gotten a chance to listen to them. So much music, so little
time...
If only I had the money and time to buy all the shit on RMI's recommended
lists, only one disappointment so far from all the recommendations(Christ
Analogue).
Cleophus T. Jenkins
I realise sometimes you go for a certain sound but to me it just wasn't right)
and I usually like Trent. I wasn't expecting another NIN cd, I was actually
expecting something more like Pig or Foetus for some reason... I didn't think
the songwriting was all that great. His voice is what aggravated me the most
though. I like british and most euro accents in singers but his voice is more
irritating than Harvey Fierstein or Mariah Carey's voices to me... I just can't
explain why it's just grating. That's why I disliked Prick... BTW whatever
happened to him and who is he? It's been 4 years now... I was just wondering
that while writing this.
NovaLyte writes:
>What did you hate about it? I happen to love it.
Taylor
Dr Z
Hey now..... back to the original point, sex is better than the
internet....
-d
In article <RIOeYvn0#GA....@newstoo.hiwaay.net>,
--
-Dr Z
"Keiner Geleekrapfen fur dich mehr"
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Erik Pemberton
>him and who is he? It's been 4 years now... I was just
>wondering that while writing this.
His name's Kevin McMahon and he was originally in a
band called Lucky Pierre with Trent and some other guys
back in the 80's. Currently, he has finished an album's
worth of songs but for some reason, they are not
releasing it just yet. I still don't know the reasoning for
keeping his music shelved. Originally, he was supposed
to put his second album out in 1997, then it was
delayed until 1998, then indefinitely. Now it's anybody's
guess.
For more info:
http://prick.myplace.org/
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MultiTasker Systems
> Hey now..... back to the original point, sex is better than the
> internet....
> -d
Not when the sex involves gerbils......
Matt
Dr Z
Rose
>Hey now..... back to the original point, sex is better than the
>internet....
Rose
>
>Matt
>
it is for the gerbils. especially since they can't type.
Dr Z
Who me?
In article <19990720151409...@ng-ff1.aol.com>,
starg...@aol.com (Rose) wrote:
> David! Stop trying to distract us!
> >Hey now..... back to the original point, sex is better than the
> >internet....
>
> Rose
> "But it will kill the pain."
> "It will kill the senses, too. At least with pain, you know you're
alive."
> -"Cat on a Hot Tin Roof"
>
--
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Dr Z wrote in message <7n1p6m$pvo$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>
>
>Hey now..... back to the original point, sex is better than the
>internet....
>-d
>
>
>
>In article <RIOeYvn0#GA....@newstoo.hiwaay.net>,
> "collapse" <ma...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
>> I kicked in the Richard Gere bit, Dave started the gerbil thing
>> though.......
>>
>> Xroirraw wrote in message <3794812D...@earthlink.net>...
>> >I actually have no idea where this gerbil thing came from. All of a
>sudden
>> >Dave started talking about Richard Gere and gerbils...
>> >
>> >Rose wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
Rose
>Sex is better than 99% of all other activities
I used to agree, now I don't. Maybe my opinion will change again, I'm not
sure.. but I'm having the best sex of my oversexed life and I still think a
good conversation about deep concepts is better.
Not by much, though.
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Rose wrote in message <19990720185529...@ng-fy1.aol.com>...
>Maryw wrote:
>>Sex is better than 99% of all other activities
>
>I used to agree, now I don't. Maybe my opinion will change again, I'm not
>sure.. but I'm having the best sex of my oversexed life and I still think a
>good conversation about deep concepts is better.
>
>Not by much, though.
Deep conversation is good, although there aren't a whole lot of people I
know who enjoy it, most people don't analyze things as deeply as I do.
Minister of Cumbersome Objects
Would you care to explain what that other 1% better than sex might be?
I'm dying to know.
<-=Jester=->
'I'm not going to eat it, you dropped it on the ground, that's gross.'
'So, God made dirt, and dirt doesn't hurt.'
'God made strychnine too, and that shit will kill your ass!'
-overheard
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Minister of Cumbersome Objects wrote in message
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Rose wrote in message <19990722003102...@ng-cb1.aol.com>...
>Maryw wrote:
>>foreplay :-)
>>
>
>Foreplay counts, man, as well as oral and anal sex. Try again, LOL.
*evil smirk* OK, intercourse is better than 99% of all other activities
except for foreplay which makes up the other 1%. Better?
Rose
>foreplay :-)
>
Foreplay counts, man, as well as oral and anal sex. Try again, LOL.
Rose
nela...@my-deja.com
> > Although I love NIN to death and I think Downward
> > Spiral forms the epitome of Industrial Music
>
>
>
> -Matt
NIN sucks. I say that because Trent's just so dimented. It's all about
KMFDM, and, when it comes to industrial, none other.
nela...@my-deja.com
foley <fo...@cari.net> wrote:
> I'm taking a poll. What do you guys think?
>
> Best Album: Nihil
> Worst Album: What Do You Know Deutschland?
Absolutely correct.
> Best Cover Art (album) : Symbols
> Worst Cover Art (album): Money
Nope. Adios / UAIOE or Naive
> Best Song on Money: Money
> Worst Song on Money: Under Satan (dub)
Best: Help Us, Save Us, Take Us Away. Worst: the German one.
> Best Song on Angst: A Drug Against War
> Worst Song on Angst: Hole In The Wall
Best: Light. Worst: Hole... You're right there :)
> Best Song on Nihil: Dis-O-Bediance
> Worst Song on Nihil: Terror
Nope. Best is REALLY hard to decide. It's probably Beast, though.
I can't choose a worst one really either. But I never thought of Ultra
and Trust to be quite as good (even though Dorona just rocks!)
> Best Song on Xtort: Blame
> Worst Song on Xtort: Apathy
Xtort sucks.
> Best Song on Symbols: Anarchy
> Worst Song on Symbols: Down & Out
I don't know if I can really argue with that...
> Best Song on Adios: D.I.Y
> Worst Song on Adios: Witness
Probably right here too. I say probably because it hasn't been long
enough yet to give the album the test of time...
> Best Vocal Performance: Juke Joint Jezebel
> Worst Vocal Performance: No Peace
JJJ may be best, but No Peace isn't the worst.
> Worst Vocal Contributor: Nina Hagen
Hmmmmm... maybe right... there is a cool crazy quality 2 her singing
though. No, I think the guy on Zip sucks, at least the way he sounds on
that one. Who is it?...
> ***Nick***
The Ambassador, maX Verran
nela...@my-deja.com
>> Best Song on Adios: D.I.Y
>> Worst Song on Adios: Witness
> Probably right here too. I say probably because it hasn't been long
> enough yet to give the album the test of time...
Today is really good too... I'll get back to you. The whole 2nd half is
just awesome...
Xroirraw
I can't say that KMFDM is industrial either.
"Industrial? This isn't fucking spot-welding here."
-Al Jourgenson.
I have half a mind to make that my .sig.
Ambassador Nelaskon
> >Best Song on Money
> Vogue.
Even Sascha said it wasn't one of the best...
> >Worst Song on Symbols:
> None.
Spit Sperm isn't a crappy song?
> >Best Song on Adios:
> Today.
> >Worst Song on Adios:
> Full Worm Garden.
Crazy. I think those are 2 of the very best. The last person thinks
Garden is the best...
> >Best Vocal Performance:
> Dogma.
Even though she doesn't sing? Hmmm...
--------
Never stop Dreaming, because your Dreams will never die.
When you forget how to Dream, you forget how to live.
foley
>
> Hmmmmm... maybe right... there is a cool crazy quality 2 her singing
> though. No, I think the guy on Zip sucks, at least the way he sounds on
> that one. Who is it?...
Its Sascha! Listen to the subtle german accent.
***Nick***
>
>
> > ***Nick***
>
> The Ambassador, maX Verran
>
Rose
>Goddammit, where is MT when you need him?..
>I can't say that KMFDM is industrial either.
>
>"Industrial? This isn't fucking spot-welding here."
>-Al Jourgenson.
>
>I have half a mind to make that my .sig.
Do it.
Rose
>> Vogue.
Cyaron wrote:
>
>Even Sascha said it wasn't one of the best...
It's beautiful.
>Spit Sperm isn't a crappy song?
>
No, it isn't.
>Crazy. I think those are 2 of the very best. The last person thinks
>Garden is the best...
>
full Worm Garden drives me insane. Today is the best.
>> Dogma.
>
>Even though she doesn't sing? Hmmm...
Yes, even though she doesn't sing.
Pinhead the Cenobite
<cya...@dreamtheater.zzn.com> wrote:
>
>
>> >Best Song on Money
>> Vogue.
>
>Even Sascha said it wasn't one of the best...
That's Sascha's opinion though. He may be one of the sources making
the music, but *we're* the ones who have to wind up listening to it.
We make the "ultimate" decision.
>> >Worst Song on Symbols:
>> None.
>
>Spit Sperm isn't a crappy song?
You know, I thought it was at first, but after a few listens and
really giving it a decent chance, it scored high with me. I happen to
feel the same way about Witness.
>> >Best Song on Adios:
>> Today.
>> >Worst Song on Adios:
>> Full Worm Garden.
>
>Crazy. I think those are 2 of the very best. The last person thinks
>Garden is the best...
I've said it before, and I'll say it again; Full Worm Garden is
awesome. Today, although Skold's voice is unquestionably suited for
the style, is far too much like Bronski Beat or Heartland pop for me
to enjoy 100%
>> >Best Vocal Performance:
>> Dogma.
>
>Even though she doesn't sing? Hmmm...
Spoken word is still an art form, and is no less valid than a singing
voice, per se. The delivery of the verse is right on target and
delivered with enough understated venom to make me *feel* it. That's
enough for me. When we boil all the niceties off, doesn't Sascha more
or less scream his lyrics as opposed to outright sing them anyway?
What's the difference aside from the intensity of the delivery in the
end anyway...? A scream of rage, or a rime-laden whisper, does it get
the point across in it's intended form?
--
"Ah, the suffering of strangers, the agony of friends. There is a secret song in the
center of the world, and the sound is like razors through flesh. I'm here to turn up
the volume. To stick the stinking face of humanity into the black blood of it's own
secret heart!"
Duane Moore
TUFKA 13 wrote in message
<190719991033321313%sinner@|NOSPAM|mechanism.net>...
>In article <7mro1f$rs2$1...@nntp2.atl.mindspring.net>,
><daku...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> > i really don't believe the crap about trent
>> > selling out.
>> No way did Trent sell out.
>
>Well, I certainly find it funny that Closer got censored for radio
>play. If the "fucking song" *had not* been censored for radio play, I'd
>bet that he would have sold far fewer copies of that album...
>
Didn't trent say something to the effect of, "I didn't get into music to not
sell albums or be famous" once?....If I'm remembering right, I don't see HOW
he can sell out...but I digress.
dm
Dan Fionte
On Friday, July 16, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, foley wrote:
> I'm taking a poll. What do you guys think?
> Worst Album: What Do You Know Deutschland? (Agreed)
> Best Cover Art (album) : Symbols (Agreed)
> Worst Cover Art (album): Money (Nihil)
> Best Male Vocalist: Sascha K. (Raymond Watts)
> Worst Male Vocalist: Morgan Adjei (Agreed)
> Best Female Vocalist: Dorona Alberti (Agreed)
> Worst Female Vocalist: Sigrid Meyer (Agreed)
> Best Song on WDYKD?: Kicking Ass (Agreed)
> Worst Song on WDYKD?: The Unrestrained Use of Excessive Force (Agreed)
> Best Song on DBYT: Disgust (Agreed)
> Worst Song on DBYT: Killing (FYSK) (Agreed)
> Best Song on UAIOE: More & Faster 243 (Agreed)
> Worst Song on UAIOE: Ganja Rock (Agreed)
> Best Song on Naive: Liebisleid (Naive)
> Worst Song on Naive: Go To Hell (Agreed)
> Best Song on Money: Money (Agreed)
> Worst Song on Money: Under Satan (dub) (Agreed)
> Best Song on Angst: A Drug Against War (Agreed)
> Worst Song on Angst: Hole In The Wall (Agreed)
> Best Song on Nihil: Dis-O-Bediance (Agreed)
> Worst Song on Nihil: Terror (Actually its Nihil, that is the worst track. I put Terror above Juke Joint Jezebel actually, JJJ was actually forced onto the album by record execs because its a "hit" even though the band didn't like it and didn't want it on the album)
> Best Song on Xtort: Blame (Tied with Son of A Gun)
> Worst Song on Xtort: Apathy (Fairy is worse)
> Best Song on Symbols: Anarchy (Leid und Elend and Megalomaniac are both better than Anarchy IMO)
> Worst Song on Symbols: Down & Out (Waste is the worst, Down and Out is one of my favorites)
> Best Song on Adios: D.I.Y (Agreed)
> Worst Song on Adios: Witness (Agreed tentatively, I like that this song is unique. Most of Skold's contributions on this album sound too similar)
> Best Vocal Performance: Juke Joint Jezebel (Anything with Raymond Watts as lead)
> Worst Vocal Performance: No Peace (Agreed)
> Best Video: Son of a Gun (Agreed)
> Worst Video: More & Faster (Agreed)
> Best Vocal Contributor: Kevin Ogilvie / Nivek Ogre (Agreed)
> Worst Vocal Contributor: Nina Hagen (Not sure who is the worst but it isn't Nina, that woman is an insanely talented opera singer. Probably will have to go with Chris Connelly if I was forced to)
If I was including anything post break-up, this list would be mighty different.