Sascha's comments on Rammtein??
Jarkko Heilio
sucking?? The comment is up on the KMFDM we site (www.kmfdm.net). He
says, quote "DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR RAMMSTEIN TO FALL FROM GRACE. DO THEY
SUCK OR WHAT ?".
wtf?!?! What has Rammstein done? Can anyone shed some light on this?
---
Jarkko H.
LARD
He may be referring to commercialism, what with being on MTV and all.
Perhaps something else they've done that I don't know about?
SKI HARD & EAT LARD
Jason Prime
>
> Anyone know what Sascha Konietzko meant in his comment about Rammstein
> sucking?? The comment is up on the KMFDM we site (www.kmfdm.net). He
> says, quote "DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR RAMMSTEIN TO FALL FROM GRACE. DO THEY
> SUCK OR WHAT ?".
>
> wtf?!?! What has Rammstein done? Can anyone shed some light on this?
>
Haha... I laughed so hard when I read that earlier. Thanks for the good
laugh, Sascha!
Jason
np: EN - "Der tod ist ein dandy"
Kevin Erickson-Velez
> Anyone know what Sascha Konietzko meant in his comment about Rammstein
> sucking?? The comment is up on the KMFDM we site (www.kmfdm.net). He
> says, quote "DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR RAMMSTEIN TO FALL FROM GRACE. DO THEY
> SUCK OR WHAT ?".
>
> wtf?!?! What has Rammstein done? Can anyone shed some light on this?
>
> ---
> Jarkko H.
Unlike most of the people I've heard praising Ramms+ein, saying that it
doesn't matter whether or not you understand German because the voice is an
"instrument," Sascha can understand the lyrics. That causes me problems
when it comes to Sehnsucht (the lyrics are really bad). Maybe that's his
reason as well. Just a thought.
Kevin
Martyr333
Well, is it just me or does KMFDM say "KMFDM" in a lot of their songs? Is that
any reason to like them less?
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Booch7a
>> sucking?? The comment is up on the KMFDM we site (www.kmfdm.net). He
>> says, quote "DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR RAMMSTEIN TO FALL FROM GRACE. DO THEY
>> SUCK OR WHAT ?".
>>
I thought Herzeleid was really good but Sehnsucht sucks.
Booch7a
>Well, is it just me or does KMFDM say "KMFDM" in a lot of their songs? Is
>that
>any reason to like them less?
I dont think they say it in a lot of their songs...
Light, A Drug Against War, Sucks, Inane, Megalomaniac, are the only ones that
come to mind. I don't consider that "a lot" of songs
bocephus
<j.he...@pp.inet.fi> wrote:
>Anyone know what Sascha Konietzko meant in his comment about Rammstein
>sucking?? The comment is up on the KMFDM we site (www.kmfdm.net). He
>says, quote "DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR RAMMSTEIN TO FALL FROM GRACE. DO THEY
>SUCK OR WHAT ?".
>
>wtf?!?! What has Rammstein done? Can anyone shed some light on this?
>
I'm calling sour grapes. It reminds me of when "broken" came out from
NIN and they started getting MTV airplay. During their tour around
that time, Sasha sarcastically said between songs, "Kill
mother-fucking Nine Inch Nails", "Doesn't that new album fucking
suck?" Yet, about a year or so later they have a NIN remix for
"light".
Now Rammstein gets some success and airplay on MTV and they sing in
German! Not only is that very strange for American airwaves, but they
also play a style somewhat developed by KMFDM. They were lucky that a
record company decided to push them. Don't forget they toured together
and KMFDM recently remixed a couple tracks on the "Du Riechst so Gut
'98" single. In Germany KMFDM is virtually unheard of by normal folk,
but almost everyone under 30 knows at least who Rammstein is. They
play festivals here.
Not long ago KMFDM was trying to get on MTV. They had a couple videos
played late on 120 min. and I believe they had a brief appearance on
one episode around when Money came out. There only success on MTV was
as a stinkin' theme song for MTV Sports. My guess is that he's just
jealous. Rammstein has done what he wanted to do without trying.
>---
>Jarkko H.
>
Marc42
>>Unlike most of the people I've heard praising Ramms+ein, saying that it
>>doesn't matter whether or not you understand German because the voice is an
>>"instrument," Sascha can understand the lyrics. That causes me problems
>>when it comes to Sehnsucht (the lyrics are really bad). Maybe that's his
>>reason as well. Just a thought.
>>
>>Kevin
>
>any reason to like them less?
>
I figure it's because they are doing the MTV thing.
Marc
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>>> Anyone know what Sascha Konietzko meant in his comment about Rammstein
>>> sucking?? The comment is up on the KMFDM we site (www.kmfdm.net). He
>>> says, quote "DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR RAMMSTEIN TO FALL FROM GRACE. DO THEY
>>> SUCK OR WHAT ?".
>>>
>
>
>I thought Herzeleid was really good but Sehnsucht sucks.
Amen, although I really like the title song.
MT
>
> What does that have to do with bad lyrics?
And how would bad lyrics say they suck/fell from grace? He would have
mentioned the lyrics before. The only new thing is MTV airplay.
> I figure it's because they are doing the MTV thing.
What I can't figure out is why Sascha would use that, though. He's sent
KMFDM videos in, it's just that eMpTV wouldn't play them. I figure it's
jealousy.
I'm serious about this, but I'll expect flames anyway.
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SimUser
>Anyone know what Sascha Konietzko meant in his comment about Rammstein
>sucking?? The comment is up on the KMFDM we site (www.kmfdm.net). He
>says, quote "DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR RAMMSTEIN TO FALL FROM GRACE. DO THEY
>SUCK OR WHAT ?".
>
>wtf?!?! What has Rammstein done? Can anyone shed some light on this?
>
>
>---
>Jarkko H.
I think he was talking about the wishy-washyness of MTV viewers, one
second a band rules the next second they suck, Sascha doesn't mean
that they suck, it is a question. He wonders how it is that it could
be so quickly that they would stop liking a band. It is just the same
thing that happened to KMFDM, one minute they are this up and coming
next big thing on MTV and the next it is who are they? And don't
forget KMFDM SUCKS!
ScratchAcid3k
Ramms+ein could have fucked Fear Factory over and Sascha could have respect
for Fear Factory and decided to write that.
Martyr333
>Ramms+ein could have fucked Fear Factory over and Sascha could have respect
>for Fear Factory and decided to write that.
Anybody know WHY that tour was postponed? And is it true that Rammstein is
going to tour with Korn and Limp Bizkit and Ice Cube??? I hope not....
DamnEngel
>KMFDM videos in, it's just that eMpTV wouldn't play them. I figure it's
>jealousy.
No he doesnt. The record company sends em. Dont you remember what happened
what happened when MTV aired Son of a gun.
MT
>
> >What I can't figure out is why Sascha would use that, though. He's
> >sent KMFDM videos in, it's just that eMpTV wouldn't play them. I
> >figure it's jealousy.
>
> No he doesnt. The record company sends em.
He makes them, then. Why make a video if you don't want play?
> Dont you remember what happened what happened when MTV aired Son of a
> gun.
I never even knew anything about this. What happened?
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>You know, he could just be joking...
>
>
serious insult was intended.
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BOŽIS (Boris Roland)
are you sure that Sascha said that, I think it´ll be an other person who
wrote him an e-mail ?
Jarkko Heilio schrieb:
>
> Anyone know what Sascha Konietzko meant in his comment about Rammstein
> sucking?? The comment is up on the KMFDM we site (www.kmfdm.net). He
> says, quote "DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR RAMMSTEIN TO FALL FROM GRACE. DO THEY
> SUCK OR WHAT ?".
>
> wtf?!?! What has Rammstein done? Can anyone shed some light on this?
>
> ---
> Jarkko H.
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evilchild
<199807242210...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
>>What I can't figure out is why Sascha would use that, though. He's sent
>>KMFDM videos in, it's just that eMpTV wouldn't play them. I figure it's
>>jealousy.
>
happened
>what happened when MTV aired Son of a gun.
They still play clips of "son of a gun" on some silly "the making of a music
video" show...didn't Sascha have this video pulled from them?
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the same genre. To see Limp Bizkit again would be neat cause they are
awesome show men. I saw them 4 times each time they were good
dio...@my-dejanews.com
jti...@stud.uni-goettingen (bocephus) wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 22:25:16 +0300, Jarkko Heilio
> <j.he...@pp.inet.fi> wrote:
>
> >sucking?? The comment is up on the KMFDM we site (www.kmfdm.net). He
> >says, quote "DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR RAMMSTEIN TO FALL FROM GRACE. DO THEY
> >SUCK OR WHAT ?".
There's a lot of shit we all talk about the nebulous thing known as "selling
out"
I think Rammstein provided us with a prime example of selling out. Not by
getting popular and not by getting national airplay in the US and on MTV.
How? By compromising themselves by recording an English version of Du Hast
(sp?) at the behest of the commercial powers that be which sucked, which they
knew sucked, and which they immediately regretted doing, as someone cited
them as saying awhile back. They should have known better and said it was in
German, and should stay in German (for reasons we now know, having heard the
trans.)
And don't tell me about how KMFDM did an English version of Liebeslied.
Perhaps not the best piece of work in their body, but nobody "made" them do
it as far as I heard, and it certainly wasn't in response to a desire to get
more accessible airplay.
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ArialBomb3
>Jarkko Heilio wrote:
>
>> Anyone know what Sascha Konietzko meant in his comment about Rammstein
>> sucking?? The comment is up on the KMFDM we site (www.kmfdm.net). He
>> says, quote "DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR RAMMSTEIN TO FALL FROM GRACE. DO THEY
>> SUCK OR WHAT ?".
>>
I think what Sascha meant maybe was that for a while, Rammstein was somewhat
popular and gaining airtime on MTV and the radio stations. Maybe now they
aren't because they've been played out by the mainstream. So, in my thoughts,
this is yet another brilliantly crafted tongue-in-cheek statement from the
master of sarcasm, Sascha K.
Quahogs
<199807240539...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
>>Well, is it just me or does KMFDM say "KMFDM" in a lot of their songs? Is
>>that any reason to like them less?
>
>I dont think they say it in a lot of their songs...
>Light, A Drug Against War, Sucks, Inane, Megalomaniac, are the only ones
that
>come to mind. I don't consider that "a lot" of songs
Well, not a high percentage of their songs, but relative to the number of
times every other band says their name (which for the most part is none),
it's a lot.
*shrug* It's all relative.
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ScratchAcid3k wrote in message <6pbupc$i...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
>I hope they don't cause that would be fucking weird. Ramms+ein isn't even
>the same genre. To see Limp Bizkit again would be neat cause they are
>awesome show men. I saw them 4 times each time they were good
I dunno, I didn't think they were that great, but then again I was eager to
see Faith No More...
The StalKing
>
> >
> >Jarkko Heilio wrote:
> >
> >> Anyone know what Sascha Konietzko meant in his comment about Rammstein
> >> sucking?? The comment is up on the KMFDM we site (www.kmfdm.net). He
> >> says, quote "DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR RAMMSTEIN TO FALL FROM GRACE. DO THEY
> >> SUCK OR WHAT ?".
I think this is another KMFDMism, something that has a myriad of
possible meanings but will never be explained to us people.
-DWLance
The StalKing
> times every other band says their name (which for the most part is none),
> it's a lot.
>
> *shrug* It's all relative.
>
> --Quahogs--
Well, not high compared to some rap bands/musicians. A fair amount of
them mention their name in just about every song of theirs.
This is just one of the few (few) similarities I've found between KMFDM
and rap.
-DWLance
MT
>
> > Well, not a high percentage of their songs, but relative to the
> > number of times every other band says their name (which for the most
> > part is none), it's a lot.
> >
> > *shrug* It's all relative.
> >
>
> them mention their name in just about every song of theirs.
> This is just one of the few (few) similarities I've found between
> KMFDM and rap.
If you knew anything about rap, you'd know that it's mostly about
self-boasting. That... um, _requires_ you to mention your name a lot
(Third person being more royal than first).
KMFDM does it for fun.
That's the ONLY similarity between KMFDM and rap. Unless rap's in
German.
The StalKing
> self-boasting. That... um, _requires_ you to mention your name a lot
> (Third person being more royal than first).
Not necessarily. I don't think even -most- rap is about self-boasting.
I listen to my fair share of rap, and it's as much about self-pride (or
boasting, as a way of putting it) as just about any other modern-day
music.
> KMFDM does it for fun.
It takes someone with a big ego to make a song in which you say you
suck, because it's quite clearly sarcastic.
> That's the ONLY similarity between KMFDM and rap. Unless rap's in
> German.
Musically, there are a few subtle similarities. Most notable is that a
lot of rap music could be considered "ultra-heavy-beat".
Some rap is even moderately heavy on electronic samples and noises (not
a whole bunch, but they exist).
-DWLance
MT
>
> > If you knew anything about rap, you'd know that it's mostly
> > about self-boasting. That... um, _requires_ you to mention your name
> > a lot (Third person being more royal than first).
>
> Not necessarily. I don't think even -most- rap is about
> self-boasting.
It should be. That was basically one of the ideals when the entire rap
genre started. Most old-school started out that way.
Right now, it's just "living off the corpse of a dead fat man." Putting
lyrics in front of stolen music is not rap.
> I listen to my fair share of rap, and it's as much about self-pride
> (or boasting, as a way of putting it) as just about any other
> modern-day music.
Currently, yes. But that was one of the ideals when it began.
> > KMFDM does it for fun.
>
> It takes someone with a big ego to make a song in which you say you
> suck, because it's quite clearly sarcastic.
Sarcasm doesn't need a big ego. It takes an open mind and the ability
to laugh [at yourself].
What was Sascha's famous quote for this? "We take what we do
seriously..." I mean it, I forgot the quote.
> > That's the ONLY similarity between KMFDM and rap. Unless
> > rap's in German.
>
> Musically, there are a few subtle similarities. Most notable is that
> a lot of rap music could be considered "ultra-heavy-beat".
That's true. But that includes a lot of stuff.
> Some rap is even moderately heavy on electronic samples and noises
> (not a whole bunch, but they exist).
Agreed here. Some "rap" even involves stealing a whole song and adding
just your lyrics and selling it (Won't name anyone).
I'm gonna go puff my daddy.
mad...@webtv.net
have only seen the video sprinked here and there on MTV. I just saw it
earlier this week. They were *never* superstars. At least not around
here. Theyve still got a ways to go before they reach the status of
bands like Marilyn Manson, NIN or even Gravity Kills. Du Hast didnt
quite have the mega-hit power tthat they needed.
MJesterF
<start>
Not necessarily. I don't think even -most- rap is about self-boasting. I
listen to my fair share of rap, and it's as much about self-pride (or boasting,
as a way of putting it) as just about any other modern-day music.
<stop>
Wait a sec.... you may either want to say this again, or erase it altogether,
cause it makes fucking no sense at all.
<cont>
It takes someone with a big ego to make a song in which you say you suck,
because it's quite clearly sarcastic.
<stop>
No, but it takes a lot of guts, and humor. Seems you either lack in one of
these two deparments.
<cont>
Musically, there are a few subtle similarities. Most notable is that a lot of
rap music could be considered "ultra-heavy-beat". Some rap is even moderately
heavy on electronic samples and noises (not a whole bunch, but they exist).
<end>
Well...... ok. I might give you that one, but until you start hearing heavy
guitar rhythms in hip-hop, don't say this. Please..... it is a disgrace to
compare KMFDM to say..... Puff Daddy? *shiver*
"This world is a mass of shit, and you're digging too deep.
Get out while you can."
-Me
MJesterF
<start>
What was Sascha's famous quote for this? "We take what we do seriously..." I
mean it, I forgot the quote.
<end>
We consider ourselves a serious band, which doesn't mean we are serious about
what we do.
I think I fudged a few words, but that's it.
Marc42
(bocephus) wrote:
>Not long ago KMFDM was trying to get on MTV. They had a couple videos
>played late on 120 min. and I believe they had a brief appearance on
>one episode around when Money came out. There only success on MTV was
>as a stinkin' theme song for MTV Sports. My guess is that he's just
>jealous. Rammstein has done what he wanted to do without trying.
Actually, KMFDM has fought to remain OFF MTV. It all started with More
& Faster, when MTV wanted them to censor it. Money got played a lot,
and that's when they appeared.
But then MTV wanted them to censor the ADAW video. It only ran once.
I've heard two versions of the story. One says that Dave Kendal ran it
uncensored without permission. The other says that MTV censored it
without permission. I actually saw the episode, but I don't remember
if the gun scene was shown. Later, ADAW was used on Beavis & Butthead
(missing the gun scene of course). The band was very upset about it.
When Son Of A Gun came out, MTV ran it once or twice, bleeping out the
"offensive" parts. The band made TVT withdraw the video from MTV,
although it ran elsewhere in censored form.
So it's not really fair to call it sour grapes, although I don't think
he should expect someone else to keep themselves off the MTV gravy
train just because he does. My store used to stock 3 copies of the new
Rammstein. Now we have about 20. Too bad I can't get these MTV kids to
buy Herzeleid, which is 1000 times better IMO.
Marc42
>DamnEngel wrote:
>>
>> >What I can't figure out is why Sascha would use that, though. He's
>> >sent KMFDM videos in, it's just that eMpTV wouldn't play them. I
>> >figure it's jealousy.
>>
>> No he doesnt. The record company sends em.
>
> He makes them, then. Why make a video if you don't want play?
>
There are plenty of other places to play videos besides MTV. KMFDM is
very popular on The Box, and Much Music played Son Of A Gun even in
the afternoons. I hear it even ran late at night on USA. MTV played
SOAG, but it was without the band's permission, and TVT withdrew it.
ScratchAcid3k
Sure Sascha is just bad ass at what he does and I love him for it but,
Who cares what the fuck he thinks, be an individual. Sure I look up to
Sascha for his industrial skills but why cares if he thinks Ramms+ein sucks
(or any other band does).
And all you people who think Ramms+ein sucks get out of your chair and make
a better band so we don't have to hear about Ramms+ein.
LrdsuvAcd
>And don't tell me about how KMFDM did an English version of Liebeslied.
>Perhaps not the best piece of work in their body, but nobody "made" them do
>it as far as I heard, and it certainly wasn't in response to a desire to get
>more accessible airplay.
>
I think this was just another instance of Kmfdm, recycling their
lyrics.....albeit, in a little of a different way.....
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Monte Householter
worldwide. And on this KMFDM theme, why do people attempt to compare
these 2 bands? Rammstein clearly write better songs, put on better
shows, etc. Rammstein are the greatest thing to come out of Duetschland
since the Hamburger.
Monte
Quahogs
> That's the ONLY similarity between KMFDM and rap. Unless rap's in
>German.
Fettes Brot! Man, I wish imports weren't so expensive; I'd have all the
Fettes Brot shit!
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Monte Householter wrote in message <35BB8C01...@mail.idt.net>...
I hope your trying to be sarcastic...I really do...
Dave
LARD
>Rammstein are the greatest thing to come out of Duetschland
>since the Hamburger.
>
Actually, hamburgers originated in Russia.
SKI HARD & EAT LARD
XTORT
Rammstein are the greatest thing to come out of Duetschland
> since the Hamburger.
duuude, I don't know. How about the Scorpions? Woooo Hoooooo! I wanna rock
you like a hurricane!!! Yeah - rock 'n' fuckin' roll! wooooooooooo
hoooooooooo - worldwide live!!
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MJesterF
<start>
Me thinks KMFDM is jealous of the success that Rammstein are getting worldwide.
And on this KMFDM theme, why do people attempt to compare these 2 bands?
Rammstein clearly write better songs, put on better shows, etc. Rammstein are
the greatest thing to come out of Duetschland since the Hamburger.
<end>
Me thinks you picked the wrong newsgroup to post that in. KMFDM is far superior
to Rammstein in alot of aspects. Not to bash Rammstein or say they suck,
because I listen to them as well.
Mark
superior
>to Rammstein in alot of aspects. Not to bash Rammstein or say they suck,
>because I listen to them as well.
Except that KMFDM apparently have no sense of humour.
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Hey, Beavis. Didn't know you really existed.
'Nacht
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You're living in a cave, then... Du Hast is a "buzz clip" now...
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>Me thinks KMFDM is jealous of the success that Rammstein are getting
>worldwide. And on this KMFDM theme, why do people attempt to compare
>these 2 bands? Rammstein clearly write better songs, put on better
>shows, etc. Rammstein are the greatest thing to come out of Duetschland
>since the Hamburger.
>Monte
As far as I'm concerned, Rammstein is the best thing to happen in
metal since Metallica. Anyway, better shows... most likely. Better
songs, not so sure about that. I won't bother to compare. KMFDM have
been around for a long time and they'd put out lots of stuff. Maybe
you should check out that stuff before you compare. And as far as
jealousy is concerned. I doubt KMFDM is jealous of Rammstein. Both
bands are good friends and they've toured together in North America
and Europe. They're helping each other out. Rammstein is giving a push
to KMFDM in Europe and KMFDM does the same for Rammstein in North
America. But who care??? Just enjoy the music.
Wow! It's a festival of partially hydrogenated potassium lactylates!
- Ajax, the Son of Dod
RainMkr -- 21C.CD27
Natt) wrote:
>you should check out that stuff before you compare. And as far as
>jealousy is concerned. I doubt KMFDM is jealous of Rammstein. Both
>bands are good friends and they've toured together in North America
>and Europe. They're helping each other out. Rammstein is giving a push
i'd be careful about what you say when it comes to them being
'friends'. from the way sascha talks it was just them opening for
kmfdm here in the US and vice versa in europe. business maybe, but
friends who knows?
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Holleewould Natt
>As far as I'm concerned, Rammstein is the best thing to happen in
>metal since Metallica. Anyway, better shows... most likely. Better
>songs, not so sure about that. I won't bother to compare. KMFDM have
>been around for a long time and they'd put out lots of stuff. Maybe
>you should check out that stuff before you compare. And as far as
>jealousy is concerned. I doubt KMFDM is jealous of Rammstein. Both
>bands are good friends and they've toured together in North America
>and Europe. They're helping each other out. Rammstein is giving a push
>to KMFDM in Europe and KMFDM does the same for Rammstein in North
>America. But who care??? Just enjoy the music.
>Wow! It's a festival of partially hydrogenated potassium lactylates!
> - Ajax, the Son of Dod
Dameth, sometimes I should read the whole damned thread. I didn't
realize we were talking about Sascha from KMFDM. Now I agree with
everything that was said about KMFDM being jealous of Rammstein. I
guess Rammstein helping them out in germany didn't stick in their mind
for long. Granted, it's not as big a market as the States, but still,
did they expect Rammstein to make them the most popular band in the
history of the world???
Holleewould Natt
>How? By compromising themselves by recording an English version of Du Hast
>(sp?) at the behest of the commercial powers that be which sucked, which they
>knew sucked, and which they immediately regretted doing, as someone cited
>them as saying awhile back. They should have known better and said it was in
>German, and should stay in German (for reasons we now know, having heard the
>trans.)
I read the reason they did the english versions was to get corporate
assholes off their backs. Now that they've done the english versions,
I think everyone can agree with Rammstein and say they should keep it
german.
Rÿan
I have "No One Gets Out of Her Alive,"
"Prime Evil," "Painiac," and "The Swining".
If anyone has other rare PIG stuff (esp. Japanese
"Wrecked," "Stroll in the Pork," or "Red, Raw, and Sore"),
I'd love to trade a couple of MP3s...
-R˙an
I can do anything... I can see everything... I can't feel anything!
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Carnophage
>"Wrecked," "Stroll in the Pork," or "Red, Raw, and Sore"),
>I'd love to trade a couple of MP3s...
I've made backups of the 'anal hog' and 'anal log' mixes of 'the fountain of
miracles'...seeing that it was out of print..i'd have no problem trading with
you if you're interested....
-pablo
pa...@izzy.net
http://www.izzy.net/~pablo/
"Many forget that fateful day in 1989, mere minutes after Adjei left the
studio, when Konietzko had a creative rush, recording as many as 50 subsequent
KMFDM albums over the next few days."
-saq, #kmfdm