konflict
jivekat
tell me about them(/him/her?), and what else would you
recomend? Thanks.
Bill
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Couple of tracks by Kemal (one of the members of Konflict)
Mechanizm on Architecture
Testtube (Kemal and Rob Data) on Timeless
Wikkid Tracks!!
Rich
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Before you buy.
Rick Boone
aiight........Konflict is two guys, Kemal and Rob Data, from Scotland
(surprising,huh) Their name is Konflict because they don't do tracks
together, like eveyrone else, but instead, one will work on a track, then
pass it off to the other, and do this back and forth.....hence, the music
grows out of the konfliction of ideas, and the K probably comes from Kemal
(ie, Kemal's konflict). Um, they got signed to Renegade Hardware on the
strentgh of The Beckoning, after Clayton heard it once (the usual suspects
got signed like this too, on the strentgh of Killa Bees), and probabaly
busted a nut, like i do everytime i hear it. They have a HUGE back catalogue
of stuff i guess they were workin on before they got signed and have been
since, and are gonna release it on their own label, Negative, the first
release of which is gonna be Mummy/Obsidian. Kemal also has produced a few
tracks on his own, for Architex(Ink's label) and Timeless. (Animation is a
killer). Im guessin from the few tracks youve heard you can tell they have
their own really fuckin distinct sound, which i can only describe as heavily
techno-influenced DnB( note the lack of "Tech-Step") and write a huge
variety of stuff, from STORMERS (and i mean stormers--Beckoning, Contact,
Roadblock(AHHH!! THAT BASS!!!!), their remix of Killa Bees) to
deep-and -complex-as-fuck stuff like Bad Acid, and also write some weird
stuff which i cant describe rigth now(Phobia). But cataloguing their shit to
a few genres is blasphemous to me, cause their so fuckin varied and ill in
everything they do.....even if i dont exaclty lose my mind over one of their
tracks, which i usually do, i still think its better than most of the stuff
out there. What i mostly love alot, is how they fuck with basses SOOO MUCH,
for example, HOW the bass in Bad Acid shifts all over the song, but its
barely perceptible if your not listening for it. and, like i said, that bass
drop in roadblock is sickening....it honestly(i swear to god) sometimes
makes me nausetious for a second. and they also have that nasty, gritty,
call for mama sound........
Ok, so i guess its pretty apparent that I know more than a bit about them
than the average listener, but i basically think theyre at the forefront of
Drum n Bass and are a few years ahead of everyone else. Their songs are
soooo fuckin complex and deep, but can still tear the dancefloor to
shreds...i really respect them like no other.
I have mp3's of every song theyve released if youre interested in hearing
any of their songs.......
If you like their stuff, you should also listen to some Usual Suspects
their newest shit, post-Armageddon)
Peace,Rick
Nigel
> I love Konflicts unique drum and bass style. I have a few of their
records
> in my collection right now. I like their integration of trancey sounds
and
> jungle beat. Another producer who has a similar style to Konflict is
Cause
> 4 Concern. If you like Konflict...you should definitely try out Cause 4
> Concerns tracks. Anyone agree?
>
>
DJ Mayhem
Tim Finney
> From: "DJ Mayhem" <???t2d...@home.com>
> Organization: @Home Network Canada
> Newsgroups: alt.music.jungle
> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 04:11:09 GMT
> Subject: Re: konflict
>
> I love Konflicts unique drum and bass style. I have a few of their records
> in my collection right now. I like their integration of trancey sounds and
> jungle beat. Another producer who has a similar style to Konflict is Cause
> 4 Concern. If you like Konflict...you should definitely try out Cause 4
> Concerns tracks. Anyone agree?
Have Cause 4 Concern gone trancey? Interesting... I've always had a soft
spot for C4C ever since I heard "Can't Go Wrong", which had perhaps the
*best* bassline of '97, in my humble opinion, so it'd be cool to see them
succeed by doing something innovative.
Besides, with all the trancey/tech-house artists going breakbeat (BT,
Hybrid, Layo & Bushwacka, Hybrid, The Light etc. etc.) it's about time the
jungle community returned the favour.
Tim
Michael H
fresh, but it is sick on the dancefloor. "Haunted" on the "artist's formerly
know as bad company" album has a cool and fresh direction. i think the more
"ravey" a track sounds, the more you get the old school vibes while moving
forward. i see all of my production heading that way (once i finally get my
ms2000). IMO there is more experimenting to be done there than anywhere else
in drum and bass at the moment. it's possible we will see drum and bass
reborn when newer producers look for thier own sound. just some
speculations/opinions.
-MØDE
Tim Finney
> From: "Michael H" <m...@nvelope.org>
> Organization: Shore.Net, a PRIMUS Company (in...@shore.net)
> Newsgroups: alt.music.jungle
> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 15:24:30 -0400
> Subject: Re: konflict
The only problem with the rise of techno/trance flavours is that with d&b's
increasingly simple beats, it'll simply confirm that d&b is just techno with
breaks.
Liquid Funk = Soulful, jazzy techno a la "Jupiter Jazz"
Techstep = hard minimalist Jeff Mills techno
Trancestep (?!?) = Mr.C techhouse or Hooj deep trance
etc. etc.
It'd be cool if jungle found some new sonic tricks to make it sound like
nothing except itself again (though that might be asking too much). '94 era
jungle really sounded like absolutely nothing else going round at the time.
That said, trancey flavours work great on the dancefloor. But then most
jungle still does, despite my dissatisfaction with the scene.
Tim
RUInvid
nothing except itself again (though that might be asking too much). '94 era
jungle really sounded like absolutely nothing else going round at the time.
That said, trancey flavours work great on the dancefloor. But then most
jungle still does, despite my dissatisfaction with the scene. >>
I think that one of the basic things that was present in early jungle tunes
that is often missing today is dynamic arrangement. Jungle records used to
appeal to me because they were more like "songs" than other dance records.
Every time I play Mutant Jazz by T-Power today the crowd still melts. Even
more recent tunes like cutslo, lemon d's tune on valve 2, grooverider's sugizo
remix, and the new ragga tune by the nomadz on crunk vinyl (Vinyl syndicate
side project); all of these tunes go beyond one bass line thoughout the tune.
They all change significantly after the drop.
I'm not trying to bitch about the state of drum n bass; I still banged the bad
company lp (especially brain-scan and dead-side), I thought that teebee's lp
was interesting, and that new red tune ride is ill. All I'm saying is that a
lot of people need to stop dick riding tunes that are being pissed out by
over-exposed artists. Play tunes that will fuck up a dance floor and make your
brain work a little bit.
My 2 cents_Invid
Tim Finney
> From: rui...@aol.com (RUInvid)
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> Newsgroups: alt.music.jungle
> Date: 09 May 2000 10:08:21 GMT
> Subject: Re: konflict
>
> I think that one of the basic things that was present in early jungle tunes
> that is often missing today is dynamic arrangement. Jungle records used to
> appeal to me because they were more like "songs" than other dance records.
> Every time I play Mutant Jazz by T-Power today the crowd still melts.
Definitely. Most of my favourite hardcore/jungle tunes have separate
sections which they move through, all producing a different feeling. It's
like how Simon Reynolds describes listening to early Omni Trio songs:
they're like St. Etienne tunes pitched up at insane speeds, moving through
not only verse, chorus, bridge, breakdown, coda etc. but also metaphorically
through sex: warm-up, climax, orgasm, afterglow...
FWIW, my fave multi-part jungle tunes:
Hyper-On Experience - Lords Of The Null-Lines
4 Hero - Journey From The Light
Goldie - Angel
Omni Trio - Thru The Vibe
Foul Play - Being With U
Neil Trix (FBD) - She's So
Dillinja - Angels Fell
Spring Heel Jack - Oceola
Doc Scott - The Unofficial Ghost
the list goes on...
Of course rollers are great because they build up a real intensity (see
early Roni Size/Die stuff), but too much of it done too simply can be
deadening. What I find when I go to clubs is that when the DJ spins
something a bit "difficult" (ie. not 2-step) the crowd find it a bit
difficult to dance properly, but I just dance harder. I've yet to hear a
tune that's actually been difficult for me to dance to. Then again, I was
too young to enjoy the times when tracks like J Majick's "Your Sound" were
actually anthems instead of interesting curios. I bet that could fuck me up
some.
Tim
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Wish I could find their current day stuff.