a question about DnB DJing

[Evan]

I am a beginning DJ (have only had my setup for a couple months), and
basically when I DJ, I blend tracks together, and sometimes will start one
when the other track is in one of those "quiet spots." Anyway, I was
listening to a Realaudio file of Peshay DJing on the DnB Arena site, and for
the most part, all of his tracks were combined through backspinning or just
stopping one track, and starting another.

So my question is, is this something a lot of DnB DJ's do? It seems really
annoying, and so I'm wondering if this is "condoned" in the DnB community,
and done a lot in DnB clubs.

Thanks.

[Evan]

Damn... I thought a rewind was just when they would play a track twice, I
didn't know they literally rewound it.

I've never heard of it... so it's basically just when a track is almost
over, you backspin the fuck out of it?

[Fulcrum215]

its called a rewind.....when the music sounds nice, you have to play it twice.

[Joris Mateusen]

I guess that with backspinning, you refer to the DJ just giving the
record an ...euh...quick spin backwards and NOT repeating the song as
elsewhere is suggested...It's a way to disguise the fact that you're
not really mixing, but just playing records. (which isn't a shame if
you're playing all the right tunes!!)

So yeah...some D'nB DJ's don't beatmatch at all...Don't forget, some
D'nB "DJ's" are actually more producers...So they can hardly spin. On
the other hand, I've seen/ heard impressive techniques by Adam C
(e.g.), from hard cuts to extensive long mixes with EQ-tweaking.

BTW: there is a difference in just stopping a song & starting an other
one, and a 'hard cut', where you suddenly 'jump' from on record to
another which sounds actually nice if it's done with proper timing.
It's even better if the two records are in the same tempo and it's
fabulous if you use your X-fader to change between the tunes along
with the rhythm, it's liking cutting and pasting two rhythms...Try it,
you'll know what I mean...
Beatmatching D'nB is the same thing as beatmatching house, techno or
hiphop, even if it's a lot faster and a slightly more difficult
rhythm.
Experiment with you EQ, dropping the bass as you're fading in a tune,
and then 'opening' the bass of that tune while simultaneously dropping
the bass of the other one. Nothing special, but is works great.

Just go ahead & mix the way you're comfortable with!

Enjoy.

[Fulcrum215]

well, see it mostly goes like this...a dj will be playing a smasher, and if the
crowd gets hyped enough the mc or the crowd will call for a rewind, or a
"reload". and then yes, it will be backspinned.

[Peter Lizak]

Try to learn your beatmixing, it is drop dead easy w/ house, but with dnb
and jungle, it is a bitch (I can't do it). I can drop a hip hop or house
track no problem first try, but can't touch dnb. Once you got the
beatmixing down, you are well on your way.

A friend of mine does jungle mixes, and he can match 'em up, (but takes a
while), and he had these two tracks that sounded marvelous together..then
he saw Roni Size, just plopped the same two tracks in a row, except he
just placed the second one down, did a few scratches, and had a perfect
beat match...ahh to be that good...

pete

practice practice practice that beat matching.
(The occasional backspin is alright, but you can't do it everytime)

-------------------------------------------------------------^------------
Peter (Not PT!) Lizak, pli...@uwaterloo.ca <-0->

[Evan]

I can already beatmatch alright with DnB. The way to do it is all mental,
it's kinda hard to explain. A lot of techstep is easy, because a lot is
minimal/ 2-step, so you can beatmatch them kinda like house. But the tracks
that are really hard, you have to think of them like an amen break, and then
try to figure out which snare hits they left in and which they left out.
When you mix in the next track, try to match the "amens" in your head. This
helps with some of the really obscure breaks, but it's still HARD AS HELL,
and I can't do it that well.

[Darren]

peshay iz a load of old wank anyway.....he couldn't mix a fakin'
omlette!!!!

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[Iwan Thomas]

Hmmmm.....for mixing drum and bass check for Randall sets, or Doc Scott - they
sound like your style.

Tips? Bring melodies in over beats trax, and if your mixer has them, use bass
kills to swap the b-lines over at the drop. Plus try not to touch the
record....use the pitch bend only coz anyone listening will know when you've
pushed a record on.

As for the rewind, as far as I can tell the MC calls for it not the crowd and
the worse the MC the more they call for it....let the beats roll.

Peace out

[JAMMIN DA BADMAN FRESH OUTTA PEN]

>Joris.M...@Advalvas.be (Joris Mateusen) wrote:

>I've seen/ heard impressive techniques by Adam C

Is that Andy C? or Adam F?

PEASH
frum
DAMAJA

[JAMMIN DA BADMAN FRESH OUTTA PEN]

I would just like to say that beatmixing is a peice of piss, and why DJ's get
paid for something I could teach my mother to do in a day or two is beyond me.

PEASH
frum
DAMAJA

[Oktal]

JAMMIN DA BADMAN FRESH OUTTA PEN wrote in message...

> >I've seen/ heard impressive techniques by Adam C

> Is that Andy C? or Adam F?

Both - a mutant hybrid spawn on the new "F-Rams" label. Check forthcoming
releases such as "Valley of the Circles".

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