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Paul McCanny

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Jul 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/19/98
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Hi Folks

Just thought that drummer Les Binks has hardly got a mention on this
newsgroup. He provided some great drumming on the albums Stained Class,
Killing Machine and Unleashed....
He also has a writing credit on Beyond the Realms Of Death.
I met Les around 3 years ago and he was very agreeable to sign my old
album and 12" covers.

Anyone else any thoughts?
--
Paul McCanny

Chris Barbagallo

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Jul 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/19/98
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Priest's best drummer, and that includes Scott Travis!

Chris B.
chr...@ziplink.net

blackie1

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Jul 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/20/98
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As a drummer I've always been partial to Les's drumming over other
Priest drummers. When I want to hear a great metal drummer, I listen to
"Unleashed in the East."


blackie1


DC

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Jul 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/20/98
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Paul McCanny wrote:
>
> Hi Folks
>
> Just thought that drummer Les Binks has hardly got a mention on this
> newsgroup. He provided some great drumming on the albums Stained Class,
> Killing Machine and Unleashed....
> He also has a writing credit on Beyond the Realms Of Death.
> I met Les around 3 years ago and he was very agreeable to sign my old
> album and 12" covers.
>
> Anyone else any thoughts?
> --
> Paul McCanny


Great drummer. Certainly doesn't get the credit he's due. What the hell
is he doing these days? Session player? I heard he didn't care for
touring, that's why he left.
-DC/EE

http://www.judas-priest.com

patrick miniaci

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Jul 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/20/98
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scott blows him away, so does dave

ROGER DE VRIES

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Jul 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/20/98
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I'd have to agree with patrick on this one- Travis is AWESOME!! Glad he
was able to do the Fight thing AND stay in Priest-----


C Lanigan

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Jul 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/23/98
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In article <NiOzxMAe...@pmcc.demon.co.uk>, Paul McCanny
<pa...@pmcc.demon.co.uk> writes

>
>Hi Folks
>
>Just thought that drummer Les Binks has hardly got a mention on this
>newsgroup. He provided some great drumming on the albums Stained Class,
>Killing Machine and Unleashed....
>He also has a writing credit on Beyond the Realms Of Death.
>I met Les around 3 years ago and he was very agreeable to sign my old
>album and 12" covers.
>
>Anyone else any thoughts?

yes i agree he was/is a good drummer...some drummers can be put into
obvious categories of 'thumpers' or' interesting technical things
drummers'.....les is in the latter....dave holland is a bit of a
thumper....not that i have any less respect for the thumpers....cozy
powell another thumper....neil peart of rush is not a thumper there may
be other categories but since i'm not a drummer and this is just my
opinion it matters not i guess....still it beats telling people to fuck
off in newsgroups as some of the people did when i read some this
morning
--
C Lanigan

Slick Rick

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Jul 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/23/98
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I always thought Les Binks was a great drummer on those early Priest
LP's....
I remeber when I bought my first Priest LP "Unleashed" that there was
not a photo of him..(He was "blocked in the live photo by Halford)
I always thought it was very "odd"....
At the time..my friend had "Hell Bent" LP..and we both agreed...the
photo on that LP..Les Binks was definately the "DEVIL" himself!!


Craig Strzyzewski

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Jul 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/24/98
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We love Binks! Also note on the cover of the cassette of "Unleashed"
that KK gets cut off too!!
I thought Binks was ahead of his time in late '70's rock drumming.
Although I must admit, there was nowhere near as much hullaballoo when
he left the band as compared to Bob nowadays. Bob Halford is also a
replacement singer, kids. He replaced original lead singer Alan Atkins.
Drummers never get the credit they deserve. Nor do bass players.
"Unleashed" is classic JP. So was this years tour.

...19 year fan.....saw 4 times '84-86-88-98.
Tipton is guitar technician.


Jeremy Hall

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Jul 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/24/98
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I've heard a lot of people describe Tipton as a guitar god or technician
as you described it....

I've read a few interviews w/ him and he admits to not studying scales
or theory AT ALL. He plays 100% by ear and feel. K.K. does work out his
leads by studying theory and the use of scales. He chooses every note
carefully.

This goes to show that you don't have to be knee deep in guitar theory
books and learn all kinds of odd named modes to be a great guitarist.
This also shows that two different approaches to the instrument can
sometimes bring similar results. I like both players styles a lot. I
think whatever method someone wants to use is whats right for them.

Jer


Craig Strzyzewski

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Jul 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/25/98
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Hey, Jer. Where did you get your facts from? Tipton has tons of sheet
music and piano scale prractice. His mother thought he was going be a
piano player. Listen to the piano arrangements on "Sad Wings of
Destiny". All Glenn. KK cant play piano. KK does not have a solo album.
KK lives on the tremolo bar, his pretty blonde hair and the fact he is
backed up by one of the worlds greatest guitar gods.


Jeremy Hall

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Jul 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/25/98
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I have the "Hellbent For Lead Licks" book. There are extensive
interviews w/ each guitarist. What I wrote in my last post was taken
directly from those interviews. The book was written by Nick Bowcott. He
has a lot of wrting credits to his name and was also the guitarist of
Grim Reaper.

In the Tipton interview Glenn did mention the piano was his first
instrument, (his mother taught him), he didn't pick up the guitar until
he was 19. He goes on to say that he has never had a formal lesson and
as nevertudied rom books or magazines.

Glenn' quotes from the interview.....

"I'm not a scale manor a person who uses fingerboard patterns. Although
I studied piano and can read music, can't play anything on the guitar
directly from apeice of music manuscript."

"'Im very often asked the question, "Hey man what scale is that lead
break in? particularly in America, and my answer is always..."there is
no scale!" People are always trying to break down what I'm playing into
scales and modes, but I'm not conciously working from any! I believe in
and base a lot of importance on "feel".

In K.K.'s interview we says the following.....

"These days I need to know each and every note I'm playing, whereas
Glenn is still very much the "feel" type of player he's always been."

He mentions that when tablature came out is when he got into theory.
Trying to study it from a italian's point of veiw was a "pain in the
arse"!

K.K. said he finds it hard copying himself when he adlibs solos. He uses
theory and scales/modes to map out his solos so they are easier to
recall in the studio.Since For the last two albums, "Ram it Down" &
"Painkiller" I have written down every note I played, solos, harmonies,
riffs, everything. This makes life easier in rehearsal and in the
studio.

"I do always analyze a chord sequence or riff so I'm aware of all the
modes/scales I can use but I never exclude the possibility of using
passing notes."

"I don't let theory chain me in, and I still experiment with "outside"
notes if I feel like it.

All of these quotes were taken directly from the book. Writtin in 1993,
it is available from Hal Leonard Publishing.

I don't have an opinion in the styles of either guitarist personally, I
think they are a perfect match for each other. I will say that I enjoy
Glenn's solos much more than K.K.'s however. But I was let down by the
lead work on "Baptizm of Fire" I just wasn't very "Tasty"

Jer


DC

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Jul 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/27/98
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Craig, are you high? Where do you get off criticizing KK? Give me a
break. Can you do any better? Doubt it.
Just because he doesn't have a "disciplined" style like Glenn (who has
an extensive blues, classical, etc. background because of his mother),
doesn't mean he can't play. Remember, it took the two of them to make
the greatest metal band and guitar duo to ever exist.
I'd give my first born to be in his shoes.
-DC/EE

http://www.judas-priest.com

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