It would certainly explain why Jayne is so friggin cocky!!!
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>Subject: Wild rumour - Jayne Andrews & Glenn Tipton married???
Me: "So, Jayne, what delightful meal are you cooking for us tonight?"
Jayne: "Dinner is coming along just well. You'll find out what it is and
when it's ready when I decide to tell you. That is, when everyone else
finds out, too. Now shut up, you rude little boy!"
Me: "Uh, so, like, where's KK and the beer?"
= )
-DC
maybe glenn should have Scott Travis pay her a little visit..
Joe
"The fastest way to a woman's heart is through her rib cage." - The Cryptkeeper
"Say what you want about Maiden, but if they did an unplugged show, they'd
still be blowing crap up!" --- Butt-Head
Heh heh heh.
"The rumors you've heard are false. Everything is cooked but the rice.
We're very happy with the meal."
...but I'm so goddamn hungry!
---------------------------------------------
Planets and stars, electric guitars
Tonight we go out of control
We're ultimate force, we're a matter of course
More powerful than a black hole
Yeah, we rock and we roll...
We are STAR PATROL
-- Star Patrol, "Star Patrol"
Jayne says: "Ignore those silly rumours"
Translation: "Damn, how did they find out about that?"
Jayne says: "It will take a few months to have this all sorted out"
Translation: "I haven't done anything and don't plan to"
Jayne says: "This will be the best, most classic Priest album ever"
Translation: "I haven't heard any songs from the new record"
Jayne says: "The band is spending this time recording as many songs as
possible"
Translation: "Atlantic didn't give us a very big advance and studio
time is expensive".
In article <3994D5D4...@void.com>,
DC <nu...@void.com> wrote:
> Beats the shit out of me. Jane tells me just as much as anyone else -
> next to nothing! = ) I know that Glenn either is or WAS married.
Whether
> or not it's Jayne, I have no clue. But could you imagine going to
their
> house for dinner????
>
> Me: "So, Jayne, what delightful meal are you cooking for us tonight?"
>
> Jayne: "Dinner is coming along just well. You'll find out what it is
and
> when it's ready when I decide to tell you. That is, when everyone else
> finds out, too. Now shut up, you rude little boy!"
>
> Me: "Uh, so, like, where's KK and the beer?"
>
> = )
>
> -DC
>
OR
Translation: "The band is hospitalized for not having any feeling in their
asses since they've been sitting on them for so long."
Incidently, I read an old metalzine today and found an interview in which
KK said they were planning a tour in march 2000... to support the new album.
Phantom Lord
NP - Overkill "I Hear Black"
Sheesh, I musta missed that tour. Maybe he meant March *3000*. :(
Cheers,
ERIC
JUDAS PRIEST
in an effort to quell rumors that the forthcoming album is only in the demo
stages, Priest has issued a statement that the album is well on its way to
completion and Ripper will be laying down final vocal tracks very soon.
meanwhile, the Halford album debuted at 140 on the Billboard album chart
Is it just me or does every bit of info the band released in the past year
or so sound like a state of the union address in a totalitarian country.
--
Igor
B C#m E F# B C#m E F#
(That's right, instead of quoting the lyrics of a song, I'm quoting the chord
progression. Sue me.)
Although this will cause even more painful delays, this would be the
best thing for us and the band.
And Sony has the money to buy out JPs contract!!!
In article <39A18C...@SPAMhome.com>,
Holy shit. I didn't even think it would chart! This thing might not do as
badly as I thought...
Does anyone know the kind of success it's having it Europe?
With Regards,
Catman the Great
JP is on Atlantic. Period. The only way they will leave is if Atlantic
says "You know what, guys? We've given you advance money. We've given
you two years already. Yet, you have nothing for us. Buh bye." Now, I'm
not banking on that happening. But it's a scenario for the future.
Again, we know nothing about what's REALLY going on with the Priest
camp, since they have decided to stay silent on every single issue.
No one, especially not Sony, will be buying out an old heavy metal
band's contract.
-DC
Clay Speicher wrote:
>
> The latest theory on the offical noticeboard is that Sony might be in
> the mix for the new album.
>
> Although this will cause even more painful delays, this would be the
> best thing for us and the band.
>
> And Sony has the money to buy out JPs contract!!!
>
> In article <39A18C...@SPAMhome.com>,
> "Igor J. Bratic" <igorbr...@SPAMhome.com> wrote:
> > Phantom Lord wrote:
> > >
> > > -- NEWS --
> > >
> > > JUDAS PRIEST
> > > in an effort to quell rumors that the forthcoming album is only in
> the demo
> > > stages, Priest has issued a statement that the album is well on its
> way to
> > > completion and Ripper will be laying down final vocal tracks very
> soon.
> > > meanwhile, the Halford album debuted at 140 on the Billboard album
> chart
> >
The interesting variable here is Resurrection. If it sells really well,
it will tend to indicate a real hunger for the classic JP sound,
wouldn't you agree?
How much of an advance could Atlantic possibly have given JP? I would
be really surprised if it was more than $100K.
As far as all of us know, the contract is for no more than a one album
deal. That would make sense based on how old the band is and how the
fan base has shrunken over the years. Please don't think I'm dissing
the band by saying this, but it's reality if you are a record exec.
And Atlantic signed a "Halford-less" Judas Priest, so they probably
figured they could get them on the cheap. What made this attractive to
the band (I speculate) is that Atlantic has a much better promotion
machine than CMC International ever will. I'll bet you a purchased copy
of the new CD that the band did not get significantly more than they got
for Jugulator.
As much as I hate to suggest it, the band has to be thinking "swan song"
pretty soon. The next release could quite possibly be the last. As the
poster on the noticeboard pointed out, Sony (Columbia) has much more to
gain than Atlantic does from a successful JP reunion album.
It would be a no-brainer for Columbia to pony up a quarter-mil to buy
out Priest's contract. If the new album sells, the back catalog will
see a nice bump in sales as well. If Columbia (probably Legacy, their
reissue unit) reissues and remasters the back catalog, you can be
assured it will sell really well because even people like us who already
have the CDs will buy them again to get remastered recordings, bonus
tracks and enhanced liner notes (pretty standard for Legacy).
You have said in the past that you think remasters are a waste of money,
but even you would buy the disks for bonus tracks!
This in my mind is the best theory I have heard to date that might
explain why the band has been so tight-lipped lately.
But obviously, this is all speculation.
The bottom line is, the sales figures for Resurrection will determine
what happens next. I'm expecting my copy to show up from CDNOW any day
now as I was unable to find ANY copies in stores in the L.A. area.
Right now, Resurrection is red hot!!!
In article <39A2AE4A...@void.com>,
that would depend, if they were unreleased tracks, then yes. If they were
rehearsal tracks or rough mixes such as those found on the KD remasters, I
wouldn't be too interested.
Clay Speicher wrote:
>
> I understand your point.
>
> The interesting variable here is Resurrection. If it sells really well,
> it will tend to indicate a real hunger for the classic JP sound,
> wouldn't you agree?
Oh, I know the hunger is there. That was obvious during Halford's set.
Hopefully, Priest is aware, too....
>
> How much of an advance could Atlantic possibly have given JP? I would
> be really surprised if it was more than $100K.
Probably right.
>
> As far as all of us know, the contract is for no more than a one album
> deal. That would make sense based on how old the band is and how the
> fan base has shrunken over the years. Please don't think I'm dissing
> the band by saying this, but it's reality if you are a record exec.
>
> And Atlantic signed a "Halford-less" Judas Priest, so they probably
> figured they could get them on the cheap. What made this attractive to
> the band (I speculate) is that Atlantic has a much better promotion
> machine than CMC International ever will. I'll bet you a purchased copy
> of the new CD that the band did not get significantly more than they got
> for Jugulator.
>
> As much as I hate to suggest it, the band has to be thinking "swan song"
> pretty soon. The next release could quite possibly be the last. As the
> poster on the noticeboard pointed out, Sony (Columbia) has much more to
> gain than Atlantic does from a successful JP reunion album.
Yes, but think about it. If you have the option of buying out an
old-time metal act or go with another multi-million album selling trend
band, what are you going to go with as a strcit businessman?
>
> It would be a no-brainer for Columbia to pony up a quarter-mil to buy
> out Priest's contract. If the new album sells, the back catalog will
> see a nice bump in sales as well. If Columbia (probably Legacy, their
> reissue unit) reissues and remasters the back catalog, you can be
> assured it will sell really well because even people like us who already
> have the CDs will buy them again to get remastered recordings, bonus
> tracks and enhanced liner notes (pretty standard for Legacy).
You seem to forget something. The day Priest releases bonus tracks is
the day we are ice skating in hell. They have so many unreleased songs,
but they just will not agree to release them. I would kill to have them.
I *think* Rob is more open to the idea, but Glenn is not (read: control freak/perfectionist).
>
> You have said in the past that you think remasters are a waste of money,
> but even you would buy the disks for bonus tracks!
If there were actually bonus tracks (NOT live tracks), yes.
>
> This in my mind is the best theory I have heard to date that might
> explain why the band has been so tight-lipped lately.
Well, not lately. They've ALWAYS been like this. It's just recently
(with the advent of the internet) that fans are getting fed up and are
able to say it in public where a lot of people can read it. = )
>
> But obviously, this is all speculation.
>
> The bottom line is, the sales figures for Resurrection will determine
> what happens next. I'm expecting my copy to show up from CDNOW any day
> now as I was unable to find ANY copies in stores in the L.A. area.
>
> Right now, Resurrection is red hot!!!
>
I agree. I keep hearing snippets that it's selling much better than
anticipated. And that's without ANY promotion whatsoever (which really
disappoints me). I was shocked to see 2 copies at the Sam Goody here in
Greenwich, which sure as hell isn't a metal town (bunch of snobs and
spoiled kids).
-DC
They're a big company, they can, and will, do both if it's profitable.
Buying the Halford-version of Priest would *definately* be profitable
because of the boost in back catalog sales.
> You seem to forget something. The day Priest releases bonus tracks is
> the day we are ice skating in hell. They have so many unreleased songs,
> but they just will not agree to release them. I would kill to have them.
> I *think* Rob is more open to the idea, but Glenn is not (read: control
freak/perfectionist).
I have a feeling that if the reunion happens, it will be on Rob's terms, not
Glenn's.
"DC" <nu...@void.com> wrote in message news:39A3F1E5...@void.com...
I would assume that Atlantic has a total investment of around $100K.
I'm not suggesting that Atlantic would let JP go to Sony for that, but
if Sony paid Atlantic $250K, Atlantic comes out ahead. A shrewd
business person could see that JP would be worth more than $250K to
Sony, hence "intense negotiations". Anyway you slice it, there's no way
that Atlantic can get Halford in the forseeable future. And a
"Halford-less" JP album is not worth anywhere near as much as a
"reunion" release to Sony. So I'm suggesting the ONLY way Sony is in
the mix is if Halford returns.
I'm also assuming that Halford has a one album deal with CMC
International. He should be free as soon as the current tour is over.
> >
> > It would be a no-brainer for Columbia to pony up a quarter-mil to
buy
> > out Priest's contract. If the new album sells, the back catalog
will
> > see a nice bump in sales as well. If Columbia (probably Legacy,
their
> > reissue unit) reissues and remasters the back catalog, you can be
> > assured it will sell really well because even people like us who
already
> > have the CDs will buy them again to get remastered recordings, bonus
> > tracks and enhanced liner notes (pretty standard for Legacy).
>
> You seem to forget something. The day Priest releases bonus tracks is
> the day we are ice skating in hell. They have so many unreleased
songs,
> but they just will not agree to release them. I would kill to have
them.
> I *think* Rob is more open to the idea, but Glenn is not (read:
control freak/perfectionist).
>
Here's an interesting point/question. Wasn't "Metal Works" done after
the JP/Halford split? Glenn personally did the remastering, but if you
look at the liner notes, it says it was remastered at the "Chop Shop".
No self respecting remastering house would call themselves that, so we
must assume this is a backhanded slam on Sony (which released Metal
Works) by Glenn. All Sony remasters typically use the "SBM" process
which I believe stands for "Super Bit Mapping". But in this case, Sony
provided no assistance with the remastering process. No "SBM" label.
(For an example of this, look at any reissued Aerosmith CD.)
So that means Glenn turned out a less than perfect product. I salute
him for doing what he could. But it begs the question of why Sony did
not help in this case. Could it be that Halford was gone and Sony
insisted that no reissues would happen unless the "core" JP (Halford,
Tipton, Downing, & Hill) was able to tour to support it?
I believe Glenn would support the idea of previously unreleased bonus
tracks if Sony gave him the time and resources to remix and clean them
up. Glenn and the fans know that these tracks didn't make the original
cut, but I'll just bet that Glenn would like to get some of them out as
much as we would like to buy them.
In my opinion, interest in metal began to seriously fade about the time
that "Operation Rock & Roll" took place. This I seem to recall was
around 1990 or so. I won't go into the reasons why (grunge), but the
record companies were not prepared for so many metal fans to loose
interest in traditional heavy metal so quickly. When I saw "Operation
Rock & Roll", the venue (Captial Center near Wash D.C.) was only 1/3
full. This is with a line up of Motorhead, Alice Cooper, and JP
headlining. I remember it well. The band (JP) was pissed. They played
a great show, but only one encore and they were in a big hurry to get
the hell out of there. Record companies were blaming the bands for
something that was obviously a simple change in taste. A new thing came
out that was fresh. Hell, I even own a couple of Soundgarden CDs.
Times have changed and the pendulum is swinging the other way. I'm not
saying that any metal band could ever sell out a stadium now, but the
buying public now understands that classic metal has stood the test of
time. And Ozzfests are selling more tickets that Lillith Fairs ;-)
The record companies are beginnning to believe that there is new money
to be made from old metal. And we can all thank Rob Halford for getting
the ball rolling again.
But then again, this is just my $.02
Catman the Great wrote:
>
> > Yes, but think about it. If you have the option of buying out an
> > old-time metal act or go with another multi-million album selling trend
> > band, what are you going to go with as a strcit businessman?
>
> They're a big company, they can, and will, do both if it's profitable.
> Buying the Halford-version of Priest would *definately* be profitable
> because of the boost in back catalog sales.
Good point.
>
> > You seem to forget something. The day Priest releases bonus tracks is
> > the day we are ice skating in hell. They have so many unreleased songs,
> > but they just will not agree to release them. I would kill to have them.
> > I *think* Rob is more open to the idea, but Glenn is not (read: control
> freak/perfectionist).
>
> I have a feeling that if the reunion happens, it will be on Rob's terms, not
> Glenn's.
>
> With Regards,
> Catman the Great
Did you see the cartoon over at www.metaltoons.com? Fucking hilarious
cartoon with Rob and KK on the phone. "Uh, Rob? Are you busy?" and he's
holding a copy of RES. hehehe...
-DC
It would be a cool explanation for the delay.
Phantom Lord
NP - Testament "The Gathering"
heh, but hell has ice. ever read dante's inferno?
Aeon
NP Death - Individual Thought Patterns
If glenn is a perfectionist, we'd all be able to hear him playing on live
meltdown...
What's ironic is that JUDAS is the one frozen in the ice!!! That's a sign of
something...
And he won't be able to rely on Roy Z for new material, as he'll be working
with Bruce on his new solo album.
As for Bob Marlette, Rob said he had heavily insisted on producing
Resurrection. So I hope he got mad at Rob turning his offer down.
NP - Virgin Steele "The House of Atreus, part I"
Phantom Lord
"Bury me beside the endless sea
Raise my ashes to the wind
Remember things I conquered in my time
Quench my funeral pyre with wine" - Virgin Steele
hm? no judas is one of the three in lucifer's mouths.. however, that area is
surrounded by ice from the flapping of his wings.
so Iced Earth didn't read the thing right
"Judas screaming here in agony
the traitors freeze for all eternity"
right, they mean he's scremaing in agony as lucifer eternally chews on him. and
i suppose he woudl be cold since everyhtign else there is. however, there are
some who were simply trapped in the frozen lake of cocytus, and they may well
have been the traitors, but i don't remember for sure.
Aeon