This Will Come As A Surprise To All Here!
Ritchie
somewhat. I can somewhat tolerate Araya on this one. Its Armageddon,
the flood gates have opened!
Soze
"Ritchie" <ritch...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Out of sheer curiosity I D/L the new Slayer and its growing on me
> somewhat. I can somewhat tolerate Araya on this one. Its Armageddon,
> the flood gates have opened!
Now I know how a Priest feels when he sees someone converted to his faith!
Bomber
"Ritchie" <ritch...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> somewhat. I can somewhat tolerate Araya on this one. Its Armageddon,
> the flood gates have opened!
A bit early/late for an April Fools joke isn't it?
audiophile
Welcome to the dark side, brother :)
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STILL hasn't heard the damn record
tom.m...@gmail.com
Of recent hospital stays. I know you talked about yours, guess I can
talk about mine. The pancreas is such an underrated organ. Let one
part quit working and you're wiped out.
Woke up Thursday tried to eat, and threw up before I could even
swallow. Went to ER later in the day, blood sugar about 650. My
pancreas quit making insulin. So now I am a type 1 diabetic.
Now I have to take insulin shots for the rest of my life.
Just got out of the hospital a few hours ago. I don't feel too bad
now, but "the incident" tore me up.
Tom
audiophile
Jesus, sorry to hear that man.
e.
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has diabetes all the way up the family tree
Soze
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Sorry to hear that, sounds quite frightening. I do know a few people who are
diabetic and have had to alter their diets and stuff as well as take jabs or
pills...if it makes it any better they all say once you get over the initial
headfuck of it all life does go on much as normal.
Tom
Ritchie
I've been diabetic since 1996 so I know how you feel.
kev...@gmail.com
I'm sorry to hear about your ordeal. It must of been traumatic. My
buddy died last Summer out of the blue because he kept ignoring signs
something was wrong and dropped dead walking home from a local
restaurant, so I am glad to hear you went straight to the hospital.
It sucks to get old!!!
take care of yourself.
tom.m...@gmail.com
> > Now I have to take insulin shots for the rest of my life.
> > Just got out of the hospital a few hours ago. I don't feel too bad
> > now, but "the incident" tore me up.
>
> Jesus, sorry to hear that man.
>
> e.
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> has diabetes all the way up the family tree
I think after the initial shock, I will be fine along the way. I
just have to watch what I eat, test my blood sugar, and take the
insulin shots.
Thanks for the wish of support.
Tom
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> > Now I have to take insulin shots for the rest of my life.
> > Just got out of the hospital a few hours ago. I don't feel >too bad
> >now, but "the incident" tore me up.
>
> Sorry to hear that, sounds quite frightening. I do know a few people who are
> diabetic and have had to alter their diets and stuff as well as take jabs or
> pills...if it makes it any better they all say once you get over the initial
> headfuck of it all life does go on much as normal.
Thanks for the support. I am doing what the doctors and nurses said
to do, and there's not much more I can do.
Tom
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> > Just got out of the hospital a few hours ago. I don't feel too bad
> > now, but "the incident" tore me up.
>
> > Tom
>
> I've been diabetic since 1996 so I know how you feel.
Type 1 or type 2?
The only thing I have to do now is all the doctor visits and so on.
follow the instructions and hope for the best. '
Tom
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> I'm sorry to hear about your ordeal. It must of been traumatic. My
> buddy died last Summer out of the blue because he kept ignoring signs
> something was wrong and dropped dead walking home from a local
> restaurant, so I am glad to hear you went straight to the hospital.
>
> It sucks to get old!!!
>
> take care of yourself.
The thing is, I was sort of on the edge. I probably would have
slipped into a coma had I not went. I could have died as your buddy
did.
However, the doctors seem to think I probably can have a normal life
so long as I take charge of this moving forward.
Tom
Ritchie
Type 2 but I do use Lantus insulin at nigh time. My doctor says that
even type 2 patients at one point or another have to use some type of
insulin. Just be careful when you workout or do anything strenuous
because your glucose levels can go the other way and drop and that's
even more dangerous than going high. The body can handle high sugar
for a while but with low sugar your organs start to shut down and go
into failure. I've had a few instances where it has dropped into the
low 40's and its a very strange thing. If you start to sweat a lot
and your heart rate goes up quickly check your levels because those
are signs of low sugar. Carry a packet of glucose tablets with you in
case your sugar drops and you are nowhere near a store, they are fast
acting and reliable. Keep an opened container of orange or apple juice
in the house so that if it drops while your home you can drink some to
get the levels up. Also keep a jar of peanut butter in the house
because if you are experiencing low sugar levels you can grab a
spoonful and put it in on the inside of your cheek and let the mouth
absorb it, it will bring them up also. Diabetes requires a total
lifestyle and eating change and even then its not a guarantee that you
can ward of its effects. My cousin followed all the rules and still he
suffers from the effects of diabetes as do I to a point. Nowhere near
as bad as my cousin though, his kidneys started going bad and he was
on dialysis for 8 years before a donor became available, but thank god
it did.
Ritchie
That was supposed to read "keep an unopened container of orange or
apple juice". The reason for unopened is that after a week the juice
(especially orange) loses its effectiveness by quite a lot.
kev...@gmail.com
Yes it was a shocking to see him go. The real tragedy is that if he
had taken a little better care of himself, like you, he would be
living a normal life. I know this pales in comparison but I was
diagnosed with high blood pressure a couple years ago and it made me
realize I am probably on the down hill slope of life now as apposed to
it all being uphill as they say when you are young. I didn't want to
deal with it. I was in denial for a year before a scary bloody nose
incident and 2 trips to ER forced me to accept I had to take
medication every day.
I've excepted being old now. Hell, I've even embraced it, but it
sucks when your brain in some ways is still young.
Take it easy and don't let this thing hold you back from anything.
p t
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I use Lantus as well, at night. I also have to take Novalog with
each meal.
> even type 2 patients at one point or another have to use some type of
> insulin. Just be careful when you workout or do anything strenuous
> because your glucose levels can go the other way and drop and that's
> even more dangerous than going high. The body can handle high sugar
> for a while but with low sugar your organs start to shut down and go
> into failure.
I've heard this as well. They said that I will know when it does
drop as I will feel it, and yeah, yesterday I did have a problem with
it. I got a little jittery, and had a bit of a headache. I took one of
those small candy bars and it settled me down. The nurses did say to
use something like that, and I have seen the glucose tablets and so
on.
> I've had a few instances where it has dropped into the
> low 40's and its a very strange thing. If you start to sweat a lot
> and your heart rate goes up quickly check your levels because those
> are signs of low sugar. Carry a packet of glucose tablets with you in
> case your sugar drops and you are nowhere near a store, they are fast
> acting and reliable. Keep an opened container of orange or apple juice
> in the house so that if it drops while your home you can drink some to
> get the levels up. Also keep a jar of peanut butter in the house
> because if you are experiencing low sugar levels you can grab a
> spoonful and put it in on the inside of your cheek and let the mouth
> absorb it, it will bring them up also.
Thanks for these suggestions. I will definately have to keep them in
mind.
> Diabetes requires a total
> lifestyle and eating change and even then its not a guarantee that you
> can ward of its effects. My cousin followed all the rules and still he
> suffers from the effects of diabetes as do I to a point. Nowhere near
> as bad as my cousin though, his kidneys started going bad and he was
> on dialysis for 8 years before a donor became available, but thank god
> it did.
I've been told about this sort of thing being possible, so I have to
keep on the strict diet, and do what they tell me to do.
Tom
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> That was supposed to read "keep an unopened container of orange or
> apple juice". The reason for unopened is that after a week the juice
> (especially orange) loses its effectiveness by quite a lot.
So if I can find and get the sort that are single serving packets,
that might be better?
Tom
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> Yes it was a shocking to see him go. The real tragedy is that if he
> had taken a little better care of himself, like you, he would be
> living a normal life. I know this pales in comparison but I was
> diagnosed with high blood pressure a couple years ago and it made me
> realize I am probably on the down hill slope of life now as apposed to
> it all being uphill as they say when you are young.
Down hill slope of life? You know, Kevin, you sure have a strange
way with words.
Actually I think the down hill slope of life started the day I had to
get a job.
>I didn't want to
> deal with it. I was in denial for a year before a scary bloody nose
> incident and 2 trips to ER forced me to accept I had to take
> medication every day.
My BP hasn't been high, but for now they do have me taking a BP
drug,
> I've excepted being old now. Hell, I've even embraced it, but it
> sucks when your brain in some ways is still young.
>
> Take it easy and don't let this thing hold you back from anything.
I don't plan on it.
Tom
Never know what is going to throw at you
Memento Mori
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> glad to hear your home tom and can BS with us knuckleheads!!!.
I am just glad I can BS with anyone.
Tom
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> even type 2 patients at one point or another have to use some type of
> insulin.
Do you use one of those pens? My doctor said he was going to show me
how to use one because it's basically easier than jumbling a bottle
and needle. Looks like you can do a jab holding the pen in a fist and
press with the thumb.
I have to take Novalog with meals, and I think that's the one he's
going to show me, and I think it will help. I think I can handle the
bottle and needle for the one timer ok, it's just a pain to have to
mess with all the needles and bottles for up to 5 injections a day, if
I have a higher number at night, I have to take a sliding scale shot
of Novalog along with the Lantus.
audiophile
> > Yes it was a shocking to see him go. The real tragedy is that if he
> > had taken a little better care of himself, like you, he would be
> > living a normal life. I know this pales in comparison but I was
> > diagnosed with high blood pressure a couple years ago and it made me
> > realize I am probably on the down hill slope of life now as apposed to
> > it all being uphill as they say when you are young.
>
> Down hill slope of life? You know, Kevin, you sure have a strange
> way with words.
> Actually I think the down hill slope of life started the day I had to
> get a job.
Life begins at 30, IMO.
e.
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getting old rules!
Ritchie
I have the Lantus pen and it works great, I take 20 units at night..
My friend uses the Novolog pen and he likes it because its all one
piece and he takes it with him wherever he goes cause like you he
takes it before every meal.
tom.m...@gmail.com
> > Down hill slope of life? You know, Kevin, you sure have a strange
> > way with words.
> > Actually I think the down hill slope of life started the day I had to
> > get a job.
>
> Life begins at 30, IMO.
>
> e.
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> getting old rules!
I guess life began for me about 1995 then.
Tom
NP-Defiance/The Prophecy
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> I have the Lantus pen and it works great, I take 20 units at night..
> My friend uses the Novolog pen and he likes it because its all one
> piece and he takes it with him wherever he goes cause like you he
> takes it before every meal.
I was looking at both those on-line, and I think it would make it
easier. Right now, I have to take 30 units of Lantus at night.
Still trying to get used to the schedule I am going to have to
keep.
Two things I have to give up, beer and big sugary coffee things like
Starbucks things. I might be able to have a low calorie beer once in a
blue moon, but what's one beer going to do?
As for the coffee, I used to get an occasional mocha coffee, which
is two shots of expresso, chocolate milk, and some extra chocolate
syrup. I also used to get it with some whipped topping with cinnimin
sugar topping. A 16 oz cup that probably had 500 calories and 50 carbs
or more.
Tom
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>Nowhere near
> as bad as my cousin though, his kidneys started going bad and he was
> on dialysis for 8 years before a donor became available, but thank god
> it did.
Some people have suggested that I might look into getting a pancreas
transplant, and that could cure the problem. I am not sure. It is
something I will ask my doctor when I get to the appointment.
One thing I have heard and seen for type 2 diabetics is that lap-
band (stomach) surgery is said to cure that in 80-90% of the times
it's done. That can't help me, but it could help a lot of other people
who may not know that.
Tom
Ritchie
My best friend is on an insulin pump and it gives him 2 units per hour
automatically, he is type 1. I don't know if I could handle having a
pump attached to me 24/7. Its small, about the size of a tic tac case
but its always there, clipped on his belt and at night clipped to his
PJ bottoms. Diabetes runs on both sides of mt family so I figured I
had a good chance of eventually getting it.
tom.m...@gmail.com
> Out of sheer curiosity I D/L the new Slayer and its growing on me
> somewhat. I can somewhat tolerate Araya on this one. Its Armageddon,
> the flood gates have opened!
While D/L, you might want to hear a bit of the Defiance The
Prophecy, the vocals you probably won't like, but I hear some nice
melodic solos in there. Since you liked the Slayer some, I just
wondered if you might like this some.
Defiance-The Prophecy
I know it's out on bit-torrents because I talk to the guitar player on
Yahoo Metal-metal newsgroup. He said he found it a few weeks ago.
Tom
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> My best friend is on an insulin pump and it gives him 2 units per hour
> automatically, he is type 1. I don't know if I could handle having a
> pump attached to me 24/7. Its small, about the size of a tic tac case
> but its always there, clipped on his belt and at night clipped to his
> PJ bottoms. Diabetes runs on both sides of mt family so I figured I
> had a good chance of eventually getting it.
How does that work?, does it stick him every hour, or is there some
sort of IV type hook up he has to have all the time?
Funny thing, when they pulled the IV from my arm, the needle came
out bent. I didn't realize that would happen. I had it in a few days
and it was at the crease of the inside of the elbow.
Yeah, that first few hours they assulted me with needles and such to
try and get my blood sugar back down. When your blood sugar is a
number usually used to describe the speed of a jet, then it's not a
good thing.
From what I understand, it sort of runs in my family as well. I am
just glad that I am not 5-9, 250 pounds and have to be told I have to
lose a lot of weight. I weigh about 150 pounds.
Ritchie
Yes a pancreatic transplant does most of the time cure diabetes but in
some cases the disease has returned years later. Also lap-band surgery
is for obese people and my doctor told me that the surgery that
sometimes gets rid of diabetes is when they do the permanent rerouting
and resizing surgery of the stomach. The draw back to a pancreas
transplant is that you have to take anti rejection pills (sometimes 4
pills 4 times a day) for the rest of your life and that can get really
expensive, even with health insurance. When my cousin got his kidney
transplant he was immediately put on anti rejection pills, as all
transplant patients are and has been on them since.
Ritchie
IV needles are not really needles at all. When they first stick you to
put the IV in it is a needle but then a thin plastic tube goes over
the needle and takes its place. So what is inside of you is really a
very thin plastic tube and yes it bends.
The insulin pump contains a reservoir filled with a insulin, a battery-
powered syringe plunger, and a small computer to control the insulin
delivery. The syringe is attached to tubing, which in turn is attached
to a small plastic tube inserted under the skin. My friend had trouble
controlling his diabetes until the doctor put him on the pump and he
swears by it. His pump comes with a glucose tester that when he does
testing automatically relays the result to the pump (as long as its
within 10 feet, which there is no reason for it to be further if its
attached to him) and then the pump
self adjust according to what the reading is.
tom.m...@gmail.com
> Yes a pancreatic transplant does most of the time cure diabetes but in
> some cases the disease has returned years later. Also lap-band surgery
> is for obese people and my doctor told me that the surgery that
> sometimes gets rid of diabetes is when they do the permanent rerouting
> and resizing surgery of the stomach.
That does sound tough.
> The draw back to a pancreas
> transplant is that you have to take anti rejection pills (sometimes 4
> pills 4 times a day) for the rest of your life and that can get really
> expensive, even with health insurance. When my cousin got his kidney
> transplant he was immediately put on anti rejection pills, as all
> transplant patients are and has been on them since.
I didn't think of the anti-rejection pills and such.
I can say one thing for sure, I could never be a injecting drugs
junkie. Taking shots is not easy for me.
Tom
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> IV needles are not really needles at all. When they first stick you to
> put the IV in it is a needle but then a thin plastic tube goes over
> the needle and takes its place. So what is inside of you is really a
> very thin plastic tube and yes it bends.
Never realized that.
> The insulin pump contains a reservoir filled with a insulin, a battery-
> powered syringe plunger, and a small computer to control the insulin
> delivery. The syringe is attached to tubing, which in turn is attached
> to a small plastic tube inserted under the skin. My friend had trouble
> controlling his diabetes until the doctor put him on the pump and he
> swears by it. His pump comes with a glucose tester that when he does
> testing automatically relays the result to the pump (as long as its
> within 10 feet, which there is no reason for it to be further if its
> attached to him) and then the pump
> self adjust according to what the reading is.
So I imagine the tube will have to be reset often, then.
So far, so good on the controlling it (Blood sugar). Knocks on
wood.
Tom
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> My best friend is on an insulin pump and it gives him 2 units per hour
> automatically, he is type 1. I don't know if I could handle having a
> pump attached to me 24/7. Its small, about the size of a tic tac case
> but its always there, clipped on his belt and at night clipped to his
> PJ bottoms. Diabetes runs on both sides of mt family so I figured I
> had a good chance of eventually getting it.
Just went to my doctor for the follow up. I have been released to go
back to work, so no 10 posts from 9-10 AM anymore.
I did get the pens as we were talking about before. Ultimately my
doctor wants me to be on an insulin pump as well. I think probably
sometime next year. From what he's saying, once I go on the pump, I
will only have to use it. No other insulin shots.
Tom
Bomber
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Sorry to hear that you have to go back to work. Glad that you're ABLE to
though.
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> > I did get the pens as we were talking about before. Ultimately my
> >doctor wants me to be on an insulin pump as well. I think probably
> >sometime next year. From what he's saying, once I go on the pump, I
> >will only have to use it. No other insulin shots.
>
> >Tom
>
> Sorry to hear that you have to go back to work. Glad that you're ABLE to
> though.
Able, yes. Willing?
Tom
Hell no.