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Pralaht

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Apr 10, 2004, 10:41:24 AM4/10/04
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Vote for JIMI...

...as best electric guitar player
www.stromgitarren.de
Button: Quiz & Poll
Link: Abstimmung (i.e. "poll")

Peace, Pralaht

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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 16:41:24 +0200, "Pralaht" <exp...@compumotive.de>
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>Vote for JIMI...
>
>...as best electric guitar player

Why?

Pralaht

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"Strange Bird" <s...@nest.com> wrote :

> "Pralaht" <exp...@compumotive.de> wrote:
>
> >Vote for JIMI...
> >
> >...as best electric guitar player
>
> Why?

Because Jimi IS the best guitar player ever, at first.

Secondly, www.stromgitarren.de is the website
of the greatest exhibition of e-guitars we've ever had
here in Germany. So its polling results are a bit
more important for Jimi public relations than pollings
in a more private realm. Lots of people, esp Germans
of course, gonna consider its resultats, and to see
Jimi not even in the top ten right now makes me sad.

BTW I've participated this exhibition for three days
giving to me very much new insights in guitars and
amps, still my head is swirling with 1,000s of great
guitars, pickups, some amps etc. by day and night :-)
and this is a great pleasure anyways.

BTW2 the touch screen polling of the real visitors
of this exhibition did set Jimi on #1, however online
right now he's only #20 - and that's annoying to me.
Thus I'm trying a lil bit promotion for Jimi - here and
elsewhere, in public and by private mails.

That's why... shoud've mentionned this before, Crow,
I guess !!

Strange Bird

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Apr 10, 2004, 1:56:48 PM4/10/04
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:50:49 +0200, "Pralaht" <exp...@compumotive.de>
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>Because Jimi IS the best guitar player ever, at first.

I'm curious to see whom people rate these days?

It would be hard me not to put JH first, although there was a time
when it would have been a very close call between JH and John
Mclaughlin. That's McLaughlin's 70s stuff, as I parted ways with him
since then.

The guitarist who knocked me out the most in the 90s, in concert at
least, was Bill Frisell. It was actually a Paul Motian trio
performance with Joe Lovano on sax.
There was a lot of space for the band to stretch, and the lack of bass
player or pianist gave that trio an interesting dynamic.

Frisell was using a phrase sampler of sorts and was creating loops on
the fly and playing over them. He was really out there, as far as I
was concerned.
Motian's drumming was just …., I don't know, I don't have the words,
but it left a big impression on me.
Three world-class musicians in a small jazz club. God, I really miss
that side of London. I've been thinking of moving to Amsterdam, which
has pretty good jazz to I think.

It was one of those concerts where I left with a noticeable shift in
my perception. I felt in a transcendental headspace, even to the
point where I was hearing in my head the song that was on the radio
station that my car was tuned to, even before I got to the car and
switched it on.

Do you know what I mean? When a concert is more akin to a meditation
than anything else. I can only surmise that those guys were so out
there, that they created a space that supported perceptual shifts in
the audience.

There was a Frisell concert shown on BBC TV recently, of a gig earlier
this year from London where he collaborated with amongst others,
African musicians. There are some sublime moments in that gig.
Completely different end of the spectrum to the Paul Motian concert.

He's a very versatile guitarist but also really has his own style if
that isn't too much of a contradiction. Some of his stuff leaves me
pretty cold as it sounds very angular or studied or even self
conscious, if that makes any sense.

I notice that the web site you mentioned Pralaht, doesn't have Frisell
as a choice unfortunately.
Surprised to see Jan Akkerman at joint number 2. Do you think that's
a reflection on the fact that it's a German website? I can't imagine
Akkerman posting even in the top 50 in most countries! No disrespect
to Mr A, just he doesn't seem to have had much of a profile post
Focus.

All in all a surprising list. No Bert Weedon? Maan, how can I take
this seriously? :)

Crow

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Apr 10, 2004, 10:36:12 PM4/10/04
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Maybe now the numbers will suit you...

-TSJ

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jeremy

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> On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:50:49 +0200, "Pralaht" <exp...@compumotive.de>
> wrote:
>
> >Because Jimi IS the best guitar player ever, at first.
>
> I'm curious to see whom people rate these days?
>
> It would be hard me not to put JH first, although there was a time
> when it would have been a very close call between JH and John
> Mclaughlin. That's McLaughlin's 70s stuff, as I parted ways with him
> since then.
>
> The guitarist who knocked me out the most in the 90s, in concert at
> least, was Bill Frisell.

if you like jazz and guitars, i humbly suggest seeking out anything by
ben monder (especially "flux" or "dust"). to me, he is the best
modern guitarist.

peace
jeremy

MGP1064

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Apr 20, 2004, 2:27:03 AM4/20/04
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Jimi is on top. Nice to see Eddie VH so high.

Mix

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Apr 21, 2004, 1:35:59 AM4/21/04
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Yeah. Jimi was #13 before Pralaht's post. Van Halen is due his propers, as
well. I've not visited the StromGitarren site since having voted a week or
so ago, but it's probably worth a fresh visit.

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MM

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I don't want to start a flamewar at all, but I've never thought that
these polls are worth anything. If you consider Hendrix to be the best
guitarist of all, then that's entirely your opinion and you are
totally entitled to have it. People have been putting Hendrix on top
of these things for years, and I think that this has had a negative
effect in some ways because some people will see the poll and think
"Oh, I might as well get into Hendrix because this poll says that
nobody else is good enough to ride his coat-tails".

Let's say that one day a guitarist turns up and totally revolutionises
the guitar, and acquires a reputation of a total genius. People will
still vote Hendrix over this person, not necessarily because they
think he's better but becuase it's what people have always done. It's
my opinion that several guitarists have eclipsed Hendrix since he came
along, but to me there is no point in voting over it.

Just a thought.

Pralaht

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Apr 21, 2004, 8:46:15 PM4/21/04
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Yeah, already on April 11th that was true :)

> Maybe now the numbers will suit you...

Now, -TSJ, ten days later on April 21th, the
numbers suite me even so much more because
Jimi is topping the poll by far :-))))))
The interval to #2 Al DeMeola - great !!! - today
is around 3,500 votes.

Peace, Pralaht


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Mix

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Apr 22, 2004, 2:40:31 AM4/22/04
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Hello, MM.

You haven't begun a flame war, and your opinion is certainly welcome and
respected here.

I am interested to learn which guitarists, in your opinion, have
"eclipsed" Hendrix? This isn't bait; I genuinely would like to know. There
are folks who say Buchanan "eclipsed" Hendrix; there are folks who believe
SRV "eclipsed" Hendrix, and so forth, and some of them are subscribers to
this group. Many are guitarists in their own right. I am not a guitarist.

I don't perceive you to be a (God, I *loathe* this term) "hater", and I'm
really interested in your perspective should you be willing to share it with
the group. Thanks in advance for your insights.

- D

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MM

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Apr 22, 2004, 6:50:06 AM4/22/04
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"Mix" <nospamdo...@home.com> wrote in message news:<zNJhc.51028$B%4.3...@fe2.columbus.rr.com>...

> Hello, MM.
>
> You haven't begun a flame war, and your opinion is certainly welcome and
> respected here.

Thanks. Nice to know that there are some reasonable people out there!

>
> I am interested to learn which guitarists, in your opinion, have
> "eclipsed" Hendrix? This isn't bait; I genuinely would like to know. There
> are folks who say Buchanan "eclipsed" Hendrix; there are folks who believe
> SRV "eclipsed" Hendrix, and so forth, and some of them are subscribers to
> this group. Many are guitarists in their own right. I am not a guitarist.
>

I'm not much of a guitarist myself - I can play odd bits and pieces,
but basically I suck. But I have listened to a lot of guitar music
over the last fifteen-odd years (that's half of my life) and
personally, I would take certain guitarists "over" Hendrix for various
reasons:

Eddie Van Halen (took the "next step forward", in my view, with the
tapping and so on. And yes, I know he didn't invent it, he just
popularised it)
Randy Rhoads (it was the combination of the incredible musical
knowledge and the utter abandon of his playing - I think he could have
been the biggest and best of them all had he not been killed)
Joe Satriani (just in terms of sheer musicality) and Steve Vai (huge
musical imagination, humour and skill in one package, although he is
less consistent than Satch)
Allan Holdsworth (on a technical level alone, he is almost unmatched
by any player that I have ever heard. I saw him play live once and he
can do it all on stage as well)
Frank Zappa (it was his ability to stretch solos out for ages and ages
and still sound interesting more often than not)


and last but not least, the incredible CC Deville of Poison.....relax,
I'm kidding :-)


Of course, I'm very aware that many guitar legends cite Hendrix as a
major influence (Satriani in particular worships him). I haven't cited
Jimmy Page here because I am more impressed by Page as an overall
musical talent (composer, producer etc) than just as a guitarist. I
should also mention Jeff Beck; he's an interesting one in that when
he's on form he is just inhumanly great ("Where were you" is probably
the single greatest thing I've ever heard produced by an electric
guitar), but he doesn't do it all that often IMO.



> I don't perceive you to be a (God, I *loathe* this term) "hater", and I'm
> really interested in your perspective should you be willing to share it with
> the group.
>

I think my perspective on Hendrix is that I totally understand his
influence on modern guitar playing, even if it doesn't do all that
much for me. I do like some of his music - I have heard stuff which
makes me think "oh yeah, that's awesome" - but I think that you have
to separate out the legend (he was around at a time of major social
change) and the music.
I got into this discussion on another group some time ago, and there
were people defending him with serious conviction, so the guy
obviously had something that impressed itself on a lot of people.


>Thanks in advance for your insights.


And thanks for your thoughtful and polite post!

Myth

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"MM" <mark...@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
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This is a very interesting subject, aside from the impossibilities of the
who-was-the-best-ever-guitarplayer-discusion.
I most certainly appreciates other players than Jimi, especially
guitaristicially. MM mentions some of them, and I'd like to throw in a
couple.
John McLaughlin with Shakti, in particular on the album "Handfull of Beauty"
has impressed me ever since I heard them live in '76, and subsequently
bought the album. Chops you wouldn't belive, and a spirituallity that I have
otherwise only found in Hendrix.
Hubert Sumlin (sp ?) who was a Chess Records Staff guitarist and did
studiowork with all the blues-greats such as MKuddy Waters, Howling Wolf
ect. Deep feel and AFAIK the first to creatively use feedback (pre Link
Wray).
Charlie Christian, the first Important electric guitarist, great
swing/proto- be bop/rhytm 'n' blues. The original Johnny B. Goode ;-) If you
don't know him, you've got some serious check-out-time ahead of you.
All this said and done, I still think of Hendrix as heads and shoulders
above the pack, due to the combined abillities, innovative creativity,
spirituallity and overall influence on the whole scene. Miles Davis once
said that jazz could be summed up in four words: Louis Armstrong & Charlie
Parker. This is of course a simplification, and my statement along those
lines would be that the major movers 'n' shakers in the jazz and blues
complex is Armstrong, Parker, Duke Ellington and Jimi Hendrix. They each
represents quantumleap-like stages, that places them at the very summit of
musical history along with Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Stravinsky ect.

Take care,

Tom


Pralaht

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Apr 22, 2004, 10:37:26 AM4/22/04
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Hi MM, good points in your reply :)
though some of them are arguable.

"MM" <mark...@hotmail.com> wrote:


> "Mix" <nospamdo...@home.com> wrote:
> > Yeah. Jimi was #13 before Pralaht's post.
> > Van Halen is due his propers, as
> > well. I've not visited the StromGitarren site since
> > having voted a week or
> > so ago, but it's probably worth a fresh visit.
> >

Thanxvm, -D, for your votes for Jimi :)
In fact, he only was ranked #20 on Apr 10th
when I've started my appeal. And even when
considering the pros and cons and sense or nonsense
both of polls and the who-is-the-best-e-guitar-player
question, this very ranking Jimi only as #20 not at all
was appropriate to his *great* e-guitar achievements.
And it was the less appropiate while the German jazz
guitar player Jan Akkermann (not bad) did keep
#3 . Thus my - still persisting ! - impact to get the
poll's ranking much more in favor of Jimi, which
meanwhile has turned to be a success ;)
Jimi now is topping the poll by far :-)))))) , and being
a fan and admirer of his work since 1967 THIS
gives me some pleasure !! Nevertheless I'm
continuing my dayly votes to ensure Jimi's position.

More concerning this arguable topic below...

> > "MGP1064" <mgp...@cs.com> wrote:
> > > Jimi is on top. Nice to see Eddie VH so high.
>
>
> I don't want to start a flamewar at all, but I've never
> thought that these polls are worth anything.

No need for a flamewar, of course, it will do to
exchange different views and oppinions :)

IMO neither public polls nor rankings made by
online-/offline magazines should be taken too
seriously. Though such a *public poll* as is the one
of www.stromgitarren.de, indeed can give some
interesting insights - insights not only into the
questions main topic ("Who's the best e-guitar
player ever?") but also insights into the emotional
dedications and activities which some guitar players
are able to activate while others can't. So to me
it's a *great surprise* to see one of my all time
favorite guitar players, namely Eric Clapton, knocked
off far behind (he's #39 on this very day, havin'
less than 1,000 votes while Jimi is heading for 19,000
votes). It's the same Eric Clapton whom Jimi himself
had admired for his playing within Bluesbreakers
and Cream in the 2nd half of the 60's, and at this
time (mid to late 60's and the 70's) he really was
appreciated and estimated by lots of fans as belonging
to the same league as Jimi and JBeck. Today, however,
obviously his *fan base* has vanished. Having seen
him last week live in Cologne, that's not at all
comprehensible to me... well, I'm dispensing here with
the reasons for Eric's curious result in the poll to
return to the topic. ONE insight I could take out
of this poll is that even some of the best players till
this day (Eric Clapton or Carlos Santana, as examples)
have lost their fan base ! *Contrary* to Jimi or JBeck or
great Al DiMeaola or VanHalen or McLaughlin
or Satriani or etc. ... IMO this IS a worth while result
of a world wide poll (not only the decision of some
privilleged people of the music bizz as e.g. the similiar
list in the Rolling Stone magazine some months ago)
both concerning the real value of democratic open polls
in general and concerning public relations and
marketing strategies of the referring managements.
I'm sure that EH (hi Janie |||;-) gonna see themselves
confirmed by the open poll while other managements
or musicians ( or e.g. the Eric Clapton newsgroup )
should find out WHY the guitar fans are not at all
eager to engage for their "clients" .

> If you consider Hendrix to be the best
> guitarist of all, then that's entirely your opinion
> and you are totally entitled to have it. People have
> been putting Hendrix on top of these things for years,

Jimi IMHO _is_ the very best till this very day, and
apart from prudent advertising him by EH - might it be
that the fact of


> People have
> been putting Hendrix on top of these things for years,

only is due to his *unforgettable achievements* on and
for the e-guitar ?? Multiple achievements - burnt-in into
the music cultural memory of society so deeply as the
workouts of Mozart or Beethoven or Picasso or
Andy Warhol or Shakespeare are burnt-in ?? IMO
whoever once has been touched by Jimi's guitar and
the way of his celebrating it both technically and by
his unique personality and sensitivity and sincerity
_never_ gonna forget it (even if the one decides that
he/she actually can't stand it and even bans his music
from his/her ears and mind, because it's felt as "too
much" ; I'm mentionning this as this is not at all quite
unusual among the people in my personal neighborhood :
they recognice and estimate Jimi's genious and multiple
guitar and voice workouts but decide not to listen to
his music in spite of this).

> and I think that this has had a negative
> effect in some ways because some people will see the
> poll and think
> "Oh, I might as well get into Hendrix because
> this poll says that nobody else is good enough
> to ride his coat-tails".
>

IF this indeed should be the effect on some people
I only can acclaim ! Regardless of which way some
people establish to start _hearing_ at least parts of
the heading musical/guitarical heritage Jimi gave to us,
for sure they will gain both deep insights in guitar, in
music, and in their lifes... That's _one_more_ point
why public polls may be worth while BTW (provided
that its results are the way I'm engaged to have them ;)

> Let's say that one day a guitarist turns up and totally
> revolutionises the guitar, and acquires a reputation
> of a total genius. People will still vote Hendrix over
> this person, not necessarily because they
> think he's better but becuase it's what people have
> always done.

Some people might act in such a stupid way, for sure,
but my opinion about people's capability to be open
hearted and open minded and critically minded differs
from your estimation clearly. Yet I couldn't find even
one artist in Jimi's reach, maybe besides Jeff Beck
or - less - McLaughlin or DiMeola. And one guitar
player, who not at all was proposed by the makers
of www.stromgitarren.de , namely "wunderkind"
Warren Haynes of the reformed Allman Bros Band
and Gov't Mule. Though enjoying them very much
while hearing their special achievments differing from
Jimi's way to play and to act, to me not one of
them can stand what Jimi has done.

> It's my opinion that several guitarists have
> eclipsed Hendrix since he came
> along, but to me there is no point in voting over it.
>

Be sure, I've heard and still I'm hearing many a guitar
player both live and on LPs and CDs and DVDs, and
the one and the other thrills me so much. Yet I havn't
found a 2nd Jimi Hendrix, however...

> Just a thought.
Just my very personal oppinion ;-)


Peace, Pralaht


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Very good points, Tom !!
Only some comments and additions below...

"Myth" <tomkri...@webspeed.dk> wrote :
> [...]

In all, I agree to your mentionned
> impossibilities of the who-was-the-best-
> ever-guitarplayer-discusion.
Nevertheless this question - though a lil' bit stupid -
very often evokes pretty interesting discussions
and names of guitar players who I didn't even
know before. That's much useful to me for
sharpening my eyes to have a first listening to
new guitarists praised by you and others. And
the same is true concerning a poll topicalizing on
this question and broadening it by giving already
150 names as a possible choice. Neither the
"impossibility-question" nor a referring poll should
be taken too seriously IMO, the latter can be
played like a *game* of fan bases in an open
competition for votes for the particular "idol",
and that's my main attitude concerning the poll.
Lastely, it doesn't matter much to me who's fan
base was big enough to push its "hero" on top
range - as long as painful deformations don't
happen, however (e.g. Jimi #20 and Robert
Fripp #1 ;) - because everybody knows that it's
esp a matter of fan bases pushing their idol. But
since I've taken the poll to be a bit my game,
I'm trying to win it, of course, by pushing my
very own guitar idol Jimi Hendrix on top. (BTW
as each time when visitting the poll site
www.stromgitarren.de one has two votes, my
2nd vote goes to underestimated Eric Clapton
whom I wanna see in the 1,000 range; any-
body being disappointed about him by his
releases in the past 20 years is strongly
recommended to visit him LIVE..... ).

> I most certainly appreciates other players than
> Jimi, especially guitaristicially. MM mentions some
> of them, and I'd like to throw in a couple.
> John McLaughlin with Shakti, in particular on the album
> "Handfull of Beauty" has impressed me ever since I
> heard them live in '76, and subsequently
> bought the album. Chops you wouldn't belive,
> and a spirituallity that I have
> otherwise only found in Hendrix.

Have never seen McLaughlin live to my regret... liked
early "Devotion" very much, also Mahavishnu Orchestra's
"Birds Of Fire" and "Visions Of The Emerald Beyond",
but the most - concerning guitar - I regret that (like too
many others) my LP "Electric Guitarist" has vanished
from my collection, because it did reveal so much more
unbelievable guitar workouts and surprises than the
mainly far-eastern based Mahavishnu's workouts (worth
while for meditation practice due to its spirituallity).

> Hubert Sumlin (sp ?) who was a Chess Records Staff
> guitarist and did studiowork with all the blues-greats
> such as MKuddy Waters, Howling Wolf
> ect. Deep feel and AFAIK the first to creatively use
> feedback (pre Link Wray).

Bought around 1970 the LP "Hubert's American Blues",
bought it because on the cover was written:
| "Jimi Hendrix says - my favorite guitar-player
| is...Hubert Sumlin"
(BTW did Jimi really say it ??)
but on this album - my only one of HSumlin - he
plays the unamplified guitar, - great blues anyways !

> Charlie Christian, the first Important electric
> guitarist, great swing/proto- be bop/rhytm 'n' blues.
> The original Johnny B. Goode ;-) If you
> don't know him, you've got some serious
> check-out-time ahead of you.

Charlie Christian also is famous for his appeal to all
blues guitarists : PLAY THE GUITAR LOUD !!
(or the like) in the early 40's, "loud" as he himself
did in a most pioneering way. Because, in spite of
havin' electric power now, the guitar players in the
late 30's and early 40's were inclined to keep on
playing only in an accompanying way. I wonder
if Jimi still was aware of Christian's appeal when
he cranked up the Marshall beast up to "10" to
start a complete revolution of using the e-guitar ??

> All this said and done, I still think of Hendrix as
> heads and shoulders above the pack, due to the
> combined abillities, innovative creativity,
> spirituallity and overall influence on the whole scene.
> Miles Davis once said that jazz could be summed
> up in four words: Louis Armstrong & Charlie Parker.
> This is of course a simplification, and my statement
> along those lines would be that the major
> movers 'n' shakers in the jazz and blues complex is
> Armstrong, Parker, Duke Ellington and Jimi Hendrix.
> They each represents quantumleap-like stages, that
> places them at the very summit of musical history
> along with Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Stravinsky ect.
>

Well said, thanks so much, Tom, for this line-up of
"quantumleap-like stages" of musical history.
That's indeed a *more appropriate* evaluation of Jimi
within the music-cultural field than me had tried to
explain in a reply to MM above in this thread. Me
had asked there :


> | might it be that the fact of

> > | People have
> > | been putting Hendrix on top of these things for years,

> | only is due to his *unforgettable achievements* on and
> | for the e-guitar ?? Multiple achievements - burnt-in into
> | the music cultural memory of society so deeply as the
> | workouts of Mozart or Beethoven or Picasso or
> | Andy Warhol or Shakespeare are burnt-in ?? I

As far as I understand your above given line-up for
musical *history* also estimates Jimi's achievements
to be a part of world society's cultural memory.

> Take care,

Take care, too &
Peace, Pralaht


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Ah, you should really check the "Handfull of Beauty" album out, it'll blow
your mind. McLaughling with three Indian guys playing, IMO, the most
seamless perfect worldmusic, Bombay-be bop ;-) incredible chops,
unbeliveable speed, but also moments so tender and beatiful that even after
28 years of listening I'm on the verge of crying. This is *not* hype, honest
to God music, and the titel of the album is absolutely valid.
Mac plays a western-type guitar with hollowed frets, witch makes for
sitar-like playing and there's and extra set of strings placed diagonally,
the violinplayer is Indian clasically educated but has played in a lot of
fusionbands with western musicians, and then there's two guys on percussion,
one tabla and one playing on a waterjar made of clay played with rings on
the fingers of the right hand and flat left hand on the bottom part for
bass. INCREDIBLE BAND !!!
And I saw them live two times back in '76 ;-)))))

>
> > Hubert Sumlin (sp ?) who was a Chess Records Staff
> > guitarist and did studiowork with all the blues-greats
> > such as MKuddy Waters, Howling Wolf
> > ect. Deep feel and AFAIK the first to creatively use
> > feedback (pre Link Wray).
>
> Bought around 1970 the LP "Hubert's American Blues",
> bought it because on the cover was written:
> | "Jimi Hendrix says - my favorite guitar-player
> | is...Hubert Sumlin"
> (BTW did Jimi really say it ??)
> but on this album - my only one of HSumlin - he
> plays the unamplified guitar, - great blues anyways !

Try look for Chess recordings from the 50's with Muddy, Howling ect, he was
on a lot of those

>
> > Charlie Christian, the first Important electric
> > guitarist, great swing/proto- be bop/rhytm 'n' blues.
> > The original Johnny B. Goode ;-) If you
> > don't know him, you've got some serious
> > check-out-time ahead of you.
>
> Charlie Christian also is famous for his appeal to all
> blues guitarists : PLAY THE GUITAR LOUD !!
> (or the like) in the early 40's, "loud" as he himself
> did in a most pioneering way. Because, in spite of
> havin' electric power now, the guitar players in the
> late 30's and early 40's were inclined to keep on
> playing only in an accompanying way. I wonder
> if Jimi still was aware of Christian's appeal when
> he cranked up the Marshall beast up to "10" to
> start a complete revolution of using the e-guitar ??

I'm most shure he was, though I don't have any specific quotes to peove it.
But Jimi knew the blues and it's history so well that I consider it
impossible for him not to have known Charlie Christian. Funny thing, there's
ng for jazzguit.players that I also follow, and just recently one of those
guys wrote that he was amused by the fact that they all spent xxxx$ on amps
and speakers when trying to make something sound as great as CC did with an
8 wattt Gibson speaker in 1940 ;-)

Definately, absolutely, without a doubt, Jimi was one of the very few select
people that was plugged right into the motherlode.

axis in ladyland

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For anyone who hasn't been following the tally, Eddie van Halen is now
just a handful of votes away from tying and passing Jimi.

Space Janitor

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Well, we'll soon have to change that.

-TSJ

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Pralaht

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"Space Janitor" wrote :

> Well, we'll soon have to change that.
>
> -TSJ

Good idea... and you've succeeded :)))

Today (May 1st '04) Jimi is on top far ahead,
*30130 (5.7%) voices* !!
before skillful Al DiMeola (26207, 5%)
and Van Halen (26192, 5%)

Keep on voting &
Peace, Pralaht

>
> "axis in ladyland" wrote :


> > For anyone who hasn't been following the tally,
> > Eddie van Halen is now
> > just a handful of votes away from tying
> > and passing Jimi.
>

Thanx for letting the group know, Axis !!


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