Wheb did Jimi change the spelling of his "LAST NAME" to the *..X..* .? ..
defi1
Medical Discharge rcrds(and misc other docs)
showing a signature & spellings dating to 1961 & "62
that ARE spelled HendriX - w/ an 'X'.
Now I'm going to drop a couple names again..like JT
Martin O'..VooDoo Fly haply might know or avow?
But I seem to remember seeing somewhere ..perhaps
a couple places..that Jimi changed it to Hendri'X'.. after
joining with the Experience & Chaz Chandler in GB circa"66.
I also recall that his recently late father AL..always spelled
his name ".. Hendricks .."
by which Jimi.. was James M.Hendri'cks'- and NOT w an 'X'.
NOW!!.. Somebody else here wish to pin this down..refute it?
Help me out if you can ok?.. I'm just going by what my memory
and haven't found the articles..etc. where i saw the history.
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JT Roberts
occasionally spelled it wrong. For example, the telegram to Al announcing
Jimi's birth was addressed to James A. "Hendrickson".
Jimi's drawings from grade school and high school are signed "James
Hendrix".
Of course, Jimi's birth name was Johnny Allen, which Al changed a few years
later to James Marshall.
Chas changed Jimmy to Jimi when they went to England.
JT
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BlueZone
JT Roberts wrote:
> It was always Hendrix at least for 2 or 3 generations back, although others
> occasionally spelled it wrong. For example, the telegram to Al announcing
> Jimi's birth was addressed to James A. "Hendrickson".
>
> Jimi's drawings from grade school and high school are signed "James
> Hendrix".
>
> Of course, Jimi's birth name was Johnny Allen, which Al changed a few years
> later to James Marshall.
If that's true, then his initials would have spelled JAH, the Rastafarian
name for God.
;-)
defi1
Post a link to it.. or if you would be so kind as to email it to me.
de...@charter.net
Should be simple enuff..ehh?
Thx Again ; )
"D"
>> From JT
>> Of course, Jimi's birth name was Johnny Allen, which Al changed a few years
>> later to James Marshall.
> From: BlueZone
defi1
Cioa,
"D"
JT Roberts
: show me the doc's on this.. will ya..JT.?
OK. A little more digging reveals it's unknown "exactly" when Hendricks
became Hendrix, but it happened somewhere between 1826 and 1866. The
history is a bit foggy here, but Fannie Hendricks was a mulatto woman who
had been a slave at one time. Her husband's name was Jefferson Hendricks.
Later, living alone, she had a baby by a white man who was possibly a slave
overseer, or maybe an employer, named Philander B. Ross. That baby was
named Bertram Philander Ross Hendrix, keeping the mother's surname by her
marriage to Jefferson. Bertram married Nora Rose Moore who was 1/4
Cherokee. These were the parents of Al Hendrix and grandparents of our man
Jimi, making him 1/16 Cherokee and possibly a little over 1/8 white.
Anyway, it looks like they spelled it Hendrix for 3 full generations.
Sources: Electric Gypsy, p.7, and pp.700-701.
My Son Jimi, p.10.
Peace,
JT
defi1
> From: BlueZone
> If that's true, then his initials would have spelled JAH, the Rastafarian
> name for God.
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Onward,
"D"
JT Roberts
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One more thing: Jimi was called "Buster" as a nickname until he was about 5
or 6.
JT
JT Roberts
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: "JT Roberts" <nospamf...@flash.net> wrote in message
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Final Update: Tony Brown's book, "Visual Documentary", has the name as
"Hendrick", no "s" until about 1912, 7 years before Al was born.
JT
defi1
> From: "JT Roberts
>> : "defi1" wrote in message
> >:
> >: : show me the doc's on this.. will ya..JT.?
> >: : Thx,
> >: : "D"
> : :
> : : > From: "JT
> : : > It was always Hendrix at least for 2 or 3 generations back,
> : :
> :
> : OK. A little more digging reveals it's unknown "exactly" when Hendricks
> : became Hendrix, but it happened somewhere between 1826 and 1866. The
> : history is a bit foggy here, but Fannie Hendricks was a mulatto woman who
> : had been a slave at one time. Her husband's name was Jefferson Hendricks.
> : Later, living alone, she had a baby by a white man who was possibly a
> slave
> : overseer, or maybe an employer, named Philander B. Ross. That baby was
> : named Bertram Philander Ross Hendrix, keeping the mother's surname by her
> : marriage to Jefferson. Bertram married Nora Rose Moore who was 1/4
> : Cherokee. These were the parents of Al Hendrix and grandparents of our
> man
> : Jimi, making him 1/16 Cherokee and possibly a little over 1/8 white.
[.. just an aside..but, you can really understand why Jimi viewed
race as inconsequential to just being a Human Entity ..]
> :
> : Anyway, it looks like they spelled it Hendrix for 3 full generations.
> :
> : Sources: Electric Gypsy, p.7, and pp.700-701.
> : My Son Jimi, p.10.
> :
> : Peace,
> : JT
That's so funny ; ) ..I'v had three or four reprints Shap & Gleeb's bible
from the library i don't know how many times..and rambled thru the beginning
yet.. Ofcourse it's there.
But for instance..is there a scan or'record Doc' *official grade/HS school
that verifies ".. Hendri'X' .."??
The point being.. often institutions etc., *create the mis-namers/mistakes*.
> :
>
> One more thing: Jimi was called "Buster" as a nickname until he was about 5
> or 6.
>
> JT
HA..!. ..and Jimi said..
".. it was OK..long as they din't call me late for supper.!!."
*S*
"D"
defi1
> From: "JT Roberts"
> Final Update: Tony Brown's book, "Visual Documentary", has the name as
> "Hendrick", no "s" until about 1912, 7 years before Al was born.
>
> JT
yeahh.. mmmhm.?. .. you can probably understand why a body might
wonder as the info's from various sources start widening..until
they don't even coincide or agree on damn near anything.. HA!..
Nope.. and I also remember that Jimmy switching to Jim'I' was
a showbiz deal circa "66.. w/Chaz/EXP/upon GB.. but that would
irrevelavant to the LAST name verifucation.. {OOPS!..veri-FI-cation}
S`only reason i din't go there.. as i figured he had to have been
using JIMMY JAMES & The BLUE FLAMES in da Big Apple..yes?
HA!.. I even saw a photo from one of The Experiences BBC-TV
appearences.. or SOME TV show- maybe Sweden.?..
where the combo's name was on a H-U-G-E backdrop.!!!.. curtain..
and it was either "The Jimmy Hendrix Experience" ~or~
"The Jimi Hendricks Experience".. tho i don't recall it being
"The Jimmy Hendricks Experience". .foggy on that too..but too
burnt to run down to the vaults tonight.
(all that draft from the liquid helium crates always gives a chill anyway)
Ahh.. yes.. ; ?j.. .
stir the fire and
another glass of wine please, Edward?
"D"
notnecessa...@webtv.net
Just to add a little fuel to da fire...
Seems that Chas had no hand in changing the spelling of
Jimi...errr...Jimmy's first name.
According to Carol Shiroky, Jimi had changed the spelling of his
first name during the "Blue Flames" days at the Cafe Wha before meeting
with Chas.
On a related subject...Leon Hendrix has released an album titled
"Seattle Rain." He has a website that it can be ordered from as well as
a nice little photo section. After an initial listening, it was not
quite what I had expected.
Don't get me wrong, there was some real nice "Jimi" influences weaved
throughout, and some real strong guitar playing as well. I guess I was
looking for the "second coming" and didn't count on Leon being his own
man with his own set of influences. All in all, a very good first
release.
Another fact (?) that I was not fully aware of concerns a third
brother of Jimi's that had been put up for adoption. Anyone have the
inside scoop on this??
stoned
defi2
> From: notnecessa...@webtv.net
> Organization: WebTV Subscriber
> Newsgroups: alt.music.jimi.hendrix
> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 12:03:42 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: did Jimi change the spelling of his "LAST NAME" tothe*..X...
>
>
> Just to add a little fuel to da fire...
> Seems that Chas had no hand in changing the spelling of
> Jimi...errr...Jimmy's first name.
>
> According to Carol Shiroky, Jimi had changed the spelling of his
> first name during the "Blue Flames" days at the Cafe Wha before meeting
> with Chas.
>
Yeah well the fact remains that 'intially & thruout' the
(shall we say?) short 'Blue Flames 'tenure.. it's JIMMY..
And the *noticeable switch.. it implemented and embedded from
the debut.. with the arrival of The JIMI Handrix experience.
.. And that makes that part of your post a bit more water than Petrol.
*S*
> On a related subject...Leon Hendrix has released an album titled
> "Seattle Rain." He has a website that it can be ordered from as well as
> a nice little photo section.
Pray tell "Sir Stoned".??.. you really MUST re: with the weblink yes??
http://www.??? ? ? ? ? ? . . .?. .
Please good knight ; )
>After an initial listening, it was not
> quite what I had expected.
> Don't get me wrong, there was some real nice "Jimi" influences weaved
> throughout, and some real strong guitar playing as well. I guess I was
> looking for the "second coming" and didn't count on Leon being his own
> man with his own set of influences. All in all, a very good first
> release.
>
> Another fact (?) that I was not fully aware of concerns a third
> brother of Jimi's that had been put up for adoption. Anyone have the
> inside scoop on this??
You also might cite where you snared this tidbit of clatter too ehh??
Give something more for people to go on.. yu know..Man.
"D"
>
> stoned
>
notnecessa...@webtv.net
Leon's website can be found at
http://leonhendrix.com
To quote from "Black Gold" by Steven Roby:
"Hendrix called his new band the Blue Flames for two reasons: it had
worked for blues singer
Junior Parker, and it conveniently rhymed with James. Every now and
then Hendrix changed the group's name to the Rain Flowers, probably just
for fun. This was also the period he changed the spelling of his first
name. Carol Shiroky, his girlfriend at the time, recalled that the Cafe
Wha? had a blackboard in front, where Hendrix insisted on spelling his
first name "Jimi," not "Jimmy." She further asserted that Chas
Chandler, Hendrix's soon-to-be manager, may have been responsible for
giving him his last name back, but "Jimi was the one responsible for
spelling his [first] name that way. That was something very personal
with him," she said, "for whatever reason, I don't know."
There's your ice cold glass of 94 octane.
Also from the same book:
"When he was discharged, Al went to retrieve his son, whose name was
changed to James Marshall in memory of his deceased brother.
The new name was registered on September 11, 1946. Although Al began
divorce proceedings while in the service, he reconciled with Lucille.
Nonetheless, he believed her next son, born in 1948, was fathered by a
Filipino man she was seeing at the time. Another son arrived the
following year, from yet another father, and he too was given the
Hendrix name.
Al and Lucille were finally divorced on December 17, 1951. Al was
awarded custody of the three boys, James Marshall (called Jimmy), Leon
Morris, and Joseph Allen, although the latter was given up for
adoption".
Now before anybody gets a fistfull of sand in their shorts, I only
wished to pass on this info to you all in the gesture of trying to add
something to this group. If you feel compelled to critique, go right
ahead. Keep in mind, there are always new things to learn.
NNS
defi
Well .. do declare.!??.. .
.my-my. . looks to me like YOU'RE the quote-slashing snoot
getting his undershorts all up in the buns..ehh??. .what's the big prob?
Fuckin facts ARE facts.. but eat everyone elses too while you're all
busy to show-off your tepid insights. The 1rst *"" ALBUM ""* bearing
*********************~~~~~~ J-I-M-I ~~~~~~~~**************
is * ARE YOU EXPERIENCED ~~~ J-I-M-I ~~~ Hendrix Experience.
Now you tell me & everyone else.. if that REGISTERED & COPYRIGHTED CHANGE
doesn't stand as the LEGALLY DOCUMENTED FACTUAL NAME-CHANGE.
as compared to the days & nights that Jimi played & toyed with band-name ideas
never seriously settling on anything at the time.. chalkboards or no chalkboards.
Sorry Mate.. s'jus pure H2o AFAIC.. .
..uh mean like..brighten up a lil' Man.. huh?. .just asked you to elab
and provide a simple link or whatever.. digg. .even added *S* (smiles)
get all huffy.. have an ice tea or lemonade will ya.?. .; ?j .. .
There!.. now you got me to answer your "Blue Flame O' th' Day'
HA!!..
"D"
notnecessa...@webtv.net
notnecessa...@webtv.net
What exactly is the problem here? You wanted to know where this
info was gleaned, and I supplied the source. Even wrote the passage
from the book and suppled the authors name. Does this make me a
"quote-slashing snoot?" No huffs here, just doing what I was asked.
I would like to believe that Jimi's name was his own idea, and not
a marketing ploy developed by his management to make a pretty picture
for the record buying publc. Does this change anything? Yup, if true,
it cancels out that little story, that over time time became one of the
many myths that surrounds Jimi's legacy.
Just another piece of the puzzel that when added makes a more complete
picture of Jimi's life.
Bottom line, I have more important things to do that to argue with
a screen full of words from you. I offered this to the group, you
wanted specifics, I gave them to you, and you come down on me like a ton
of bricks. Lemonade sounds like a good idea, who pissed in yours?
NNS
defi2
> From: notnecessa...@webtv.net
> Organization: WebTV Subscriber
> Newsgroups: alt.music.jimi.hendrix
> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 19:10:56 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Re: did Jimi change the spelling of his "LAST NAME" tothe*..X...
>
> Defi,
>
> What exactly is the problem here?
if you hadn't slashed my quotes--you'ld hear this echo* * * * `
>You wanted to know where this
> info was gleaned, and I supplied the source.
Yup.!.. after I pointed out in simpole direct language
what you should have done in the first place. good work.
>Even wrote the passage
> from the book and suppled the authors name.
Yes.. that was perfectly mahhhhh-velous NNS. jolly fine.!.
> Does this make me a "quote-slashing snoot?"
No... but slashing MY quoted post DOES.. ya digg the word 'entirety'.??
How about "respect for the previous poster" - no??.. you never do??
Oh well ...
> No huffs here, just doing what I was asked.
HA!!... you're steam valve is whistleing.. . .'sssSSSHHHRRRRiiSSSS.!!!!..
*S*
> I would like to believe that Jimi's name was his own idea, and not
> a marketing ploy developed by his management to make a pretty picture
> for the record buying publc.
I chear ya NNS.. ..but let's chance a thought that MAYBE???.. it was
kinda BOTH factors that led to the cemented change when The Experience
finally arrived.. OK?..
Anyone that has learned the best part of the person that Jimi history
teaches.. knows that Jimi wouldn't have ever changed his OWN NAME
for Gods sake.. without it being an original idea that came to him first.!!
or at the VERY least- he fondly approved of..anything else is unfathomable.
Right On Man ; )
>Does this change anything? Yup, if true,
> it cancels out that little story, that over time time became one of the
uhuh..?.. just like in SPACEBALLS: The Movie.!.." Time Time --NOW NOW!!??"
(Mel Brooks)"".. When is Now.!??? is it NOW - NOW!!??..."
(Lt. Asshole) ".. Sorry General.. but we just missed it.!!. ."
(Mel Brooks)""... . WHAT!!!!--WHEN DID WE MISS IT.!!!???!.."'
(Lt. Asshole again)..""..Ohhhh sirrr! --- JUST NOW.!!.. sun-uv-a-gun.!
.."'
> many myths that surrounds Jimi's legacy.
Oh yeah.. that's what got him outta da Army Soivice.. he paratripped
and 'broke his left legacy'- hurt a whole bunch ehh..DISChARGEd
> Just another piece of the puzzel that when added makes a more complete
> picture of Jimi's life.
>
> Bottom line, I have more important things to do that to argue with
> a screen full of words from you.
( a twelve in monitor.. (. .sigh ., ^`.. )
>I offered this to the group, you
> wanted specifics, I gave them to you, and you come down on me like a ton
> of bricks.
Oh yeahhHHHhhhhh.. . made outta styrofoam.. hA!!.. Shit!-- you aint SEEN me
get upset my friend.!. . and anyway - those days are OVER!!!
(Drill Sgt. Gunny Full Metal Jacket)
""..Your days of finger banging Ol' Mary Jane RottenCrotch..
.. thru her pretty - pink - panties ....... arrrrRRE - OVERRR.!!!.. ""
""..Your married to these weapons of iron & wood now.."".... . . . . .
>Lemonade sounds like a good idea, who pissed in yours?
> NNS
Yah.. yahh... don't have a cow Old Boy..
Like Phil Collins tried to tell ya.. ""..Yer takin' it all too harrr-rrd..""
Tius Bruce.!. .,p; ?D .. ,.
"D"