who'd dr. bogenbroom?
Lawrence Jenab
always wondered if this was a reference or just something personal, like
all the "jeffrey" references
thanx!
LeeAnn5ft
<<always wondered if this was a reference or just something personal, like all
the "jeffrey" references
thanx!>>
Yeah.... "and where the hell was Biggles when you needed him last
Saturday?".... And more importantly, who the hell would name their kid
Hipgrave???????
Me thinks Dr. Bogenbroom is himself... Ian Anderson..... am I wrong?
LeeAnn
reddred
i have no idea who bogenbroom is/was. biggles was a popular character in
childrens books following, i think, world war one. correct me if i'm
wrong, but didnt he fly a biplane?
low...@flash.net
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998 22:58:25 -0500, reddred <red...@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
>i have no idea who bogenbroom is/was. biggles was a popular character in
>childrens books following, i think, world war one. correct me if i'm
>wrong, but didnt he fly a biplane?
Don't know- - - But when I needed him last Saturday I could'nt find
him.
LJ
Jim Fisher
low...@flash.net wrote in message <34f6447b...@news.flash.net>...
I think he was busy writing up his memiors, for the boy scout manual...
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Steven Davies-Morris
Jim Fisher wrote in message <6d7b10$9dk$1...@nntp.epix.net>...
Biggles was one of my schoolboy heroes. The stories were written by
Captain W.E. Johns, and spanned WWI through post- WWII. The best
of them (as memory recalls) were set in the Great War. I probably read
15+ of them between 67 and 72. There are more that I never got to. The
mighty Biggles, decent and proper beyond belief, with his chums Ginger,
Algie, et al, dealing death to the filthy hun! Any other lads want to
throw
in their thruppence about this stalwart defender of monarch and empire?
Regards
Steven Davies-Morris dav...@deltanet.com
Steven Sullivan
LeeAnn5ft (leea...@aol.com) wrote:
: <<always wondered if this was a reference or just something personal, like all
: the "jeffrey" references
: thanx!>>
: Yeah.... "and where the hell was Biggles when you needed him last
: Saturday?"
Jeffrey was Jeffrey Hammond(-Hammond), whom Ian of course eventually
persuaded to join Tull. Biggles is a derring-do fictional British war
hero in books written for kids, if I'm not mistaken. Fits in well with
the theme of 'comic paper idols' on Thick.
Lenester Taxidean
On Sat, 28 Feb 1998 06:11:31, sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Steven Sullivan)
wrote:
> Jeffrey was Jeffrey Hammond(-Hammond), whom Ian of course eventually
Or that's what everyone assumes. According to an interview with Jeffery
Hammond which is quoted in the Tull FAQ on the Rutgers site, he himself has no
idea whether this means him, or if Jeffery was just a random name.
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Deep red are the sunsets in mystical places
black are the nights on summerday sands.
We'll find the speck of truth in each riddle
hold the first grain of love in our hands.
Jethro Tull, _The Whistler_
mma...@dazel.com
SPAMKILL...@asis.com wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Feb 1998 06:11:31, sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Steven Sullivan)
> wrote:
>
> > Jeffrey was Jeffrey Hammond(-Hammond), whom Ian of course eventually
>
> Or that's what everyone assumes. According to an interview with Jeffery
> Hammond which is quoted in the Tull FAQ on the Rutgers site, he himself has
no
> idea whether this means him, or if Jeffery was just a random name.
OTOH, I have a tape of a Rockline interview circa 1988 wherein Ian
answers this question directly - namely that all three "Jeffrey"
songs (A Song For Jeffrey, Jeffrey Goes To Leicester Square, and For
Michael Collins, Jeffrey, and Me) were indeed referring to and/or
inspired by Jeffrey Hammond. I'll post the literal quote if anyone's
interested.
Regards,
Mike Martin
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mma...@dazel.com wrote in article <6d9m3j$u4f$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> SPAMKILL...@asis.com wrote:
> > On Sat, 28 Feb 1998 06:11:31, sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Steven
Sullivan)
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Jeffrey was Jeffrey Hammond(-Hammond), whom Ian of course eventually
> >
> > Or that's what everyone assumes. According to an interview with Jeffery
> > Hammond which is quoted in the Tull FAQ on the Rutgers site, he himself
has
> no
> > idea whether this means him, or if Jeffery was just a random name.
>
that Jeffrey is one of those guys that is really quite shy and intellectual
in a weird sort of way, such that he would prefer that nobody would pay any
attention to him until he had something spectacularly unorthodox to do or
say. At that time he would grab the spotlight, do his thing, then go back
to being unnoticed. In keeping with such a personality, I think that he is
a bit embarrassed about the attention that those songs put on him. Watch
the way he squirms when asked about this on the 25th Ann. video.
If you think about it, you can see how Ian and Jeffrey would have been
friends in their youth.
--
-Kevin Thurston
Lenester Taxidean
On Sat, 28 Feb 1998 18:47:28, mma...@dazel.com wrote:
> OTOH, I have a tape of a Rockline interview circa 1988 wherein Ian
> answers this question directly - namely that all three "Jeffrey"
> songs (A Song For Jeffrey, Jeffrey Goes To Leicester Square, and For
> Michael Collins, Jeffrey, and Me) were indeed referring to and/or
> inspired by Jeffrey Hammond. I'll post the literal quote if anyone's
> interested.
Aha... yes, I'd actually like to see that. (Of course, Ian has been known to
deliberately play word games with his loving public, like telling an
interviewer that Locomotive Breath has allusions to "the big bang...")
_DEFAULT
>> Jeffrey was Jeffrey Hammond(-Hammond), whom Ian of course eventually
>
>Or that's what everyone assumes. According to an interview with Jeffery
>Hammond which is quoted in the Tull FAQ on the Rutgers site, he himself has
no
>idea whether this means him, or if Jeffery was just a random name.
>
unless we're talking about a Doctor Jeffrey Bogenbroom, the question remains
unanswered.
Who is the good doctor? (I'm guessing that its an invented, playful name...
but I don't know).
Emmett Hoops
I might be mistaken, but ever since the release date (I heard LITP on
the first day of issue) I assumed Dr. Bogenbroom was a drug. "I'm
going down...three cheers for Dr. Bogenbroom....Well you drowned me in
the fountain of life when I hated you for living while I was dying,
when we were all just passing through." To me, this was a (not very
well crafted) reference to the desperation of the addict, and let's
all remember how powerful a term that was back in the early '70s.
Personally, Dr. B has always been one of my favorite Tull songs. It's
one that I always sing along with, half unaware, since the lyrics are
as much a part of me as my skin. (I'm a rather obsessive
person...between Thick As A Brick and Under Wraps and LITP, it's a
wonder I have time to hear what President Nixon is up to these days!)
Emmett
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:00:26 -0600, Lawrence Jenab
<lje...@sunflower.com> wrote:
>always wondered if this was a reference or just something personal, like
>all the "jeffrey" references
>
>thanx!
>
>
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Emmett wrote:> (I'm a rather obsessive
person...between Thick As A Brick and Under Wraps and LITP, it's a
wonder I have time to hear what President Nixon is up to these days!)
>
You've been missed. Welcome back!
Jackalynn
LeeAnn5ft
>always wondered if this was a reference or just something personal, like all
the "jeffrey" references>>
<<I might be mistaken, but ever since the release date (I heard LITP on the
first day of issue) I assumed Dr. Bogenbroom was a drug. "I'm going
down...three cheers for Dr. Bogenbroom....Well you drowned me in the fountain
of life when I hated you for living while I was dying, when we were all just
passing through." To me, this was a (not very well crafted) reference to the
desperation of the addict, and let's all remember how powerful a term that was
back in the early '70s. >>
Yes... that makes sense... a lot more sense than my feeble attempt at
understanding the works of Ian Anderson.
<<Personally, Dr. B has always been one of my favorite Tull songs. It's one
that I always sing along with, half unaware, since the lyrics are as much a
part of me as my skin. (I'm a rather obsessive person...between Thick As A
Brick and Under Wraps and LITP it's a wonder I have time to hear what
President Nixon is up to these days!)>>
Emmett>>
Yes, well I can think of a dozen other things to be addicted to that are much
more harmful than listening to too much Tull. I say
"Give me more... more ... more more more!!!!"
And who cares what Nixon says anyway!
I love the way Dr. Bogenbroom, like Another Harry's Bar winds up in the end....
with a strong ecceleration... to get my feet movein.. I love it.
Where ya been Emmett? Was it something I said?
"Three cheers for Dr. Bogenbroom!"
LeeAnn
reddred
Emmett Hoops wrote:
>
> I might be mistaken, but ever since the release date (I heard LITP on
> the first day of issue) I assumed Dr. Bogenbroom was a drug. "I'm
> going down...three cheers for Dr. Bogenbroom....Well you drowned me in
> the fountain of life when I hated you for living while I was dying,
> when we were all just passing through." To me, this was a (not very
> well crafted) reference to the desperation of the addict, and let's
> all remember how powerful a term that was back in the early '70s.
> one that I always sing along with, half unaware, since the lyrics are
> as much a part of me as my skin. (I'm a rather obsessive
> wonder I have time to hear what President Nixon is up to these days!)
>
> Emmett
>
> <lje...@sunflower.com> wrote:
>
> >always wondered if this was a reference or just something personal, like
> >all the "jeffrey" references
> >
Never thought of that one. but i'm defineately inclined to agree that
Bogenbroom is about drugs, now that i think about it. -reddred
WMitch2610
Somebody wrote-
>I assumed Dr. Bogenbroom was a drug.
Dr. Bogenbroom is someone who sells drugs, I believe.
Bill
Mike Martin
Lenester Taxidean wrote in message ...
>On Sat, 28 Feb 1998 18:47:28, mma...@dazel.com wrote:
>> OTOH, I have a tape of a Rockline interview circa 1988 wherein Ian
>> answers this question directly - namely that all three "Jeffrey"
>> songs (A Song For Jeffrey, Jeffrey Goes To Leicester Square, and For
>> Michael Collins, Jeffrey, and Me) were indeed referring to and/or
>> inspired by Jeffrey Hammond. I'll post the literal quote if anyone's
>> interested.
>
>Aha... yes, I'd actually like to see that. (Of course, Ian has been known
to
>deliberately play word games with his loving public, like telling an
>interviewer that Locomotive Breath has allusions to "the big bang...")
Ask and it shall be given you! This particular Rockline program
included Ian, Martin and Dave Pegg as well. Enjoy.
Regards,
Mike Martin
mma...@jump.net
----------
Joe (caller): My question is concerning your first three albums,
and there's one song off of each album that contains the name
"Jeffrey" in it.
Ian: Yeah.
Joe: Such as "For Michael Collins, Jeffrey, and Me".
Ian: Yup.
Joe: "A Song For Jeffrey".
Ian: That's two.
Joe: And "Jeffrey Goes To ...", and you'll have to forgive my
English, uh "... Lysester Square"?
(Martin and Dave giggle)
Ian: Lysester Square is close, but it is actually, Joe, it is
"Leicester Square" (which Ian pronounces closer to "Lester").
Leicester Square, yes.
Joe: A good song by any means. But who is Jeffrey and did he play
an important part in your life and why are so many songs centered
around that individual?
Ian (in lisping, effeminate tone): Well, Jeffrey and I were very
close and uh ...
(Martin and Dave giggle some more)
We were actually pals at school and Jeffrey was in a group with
me when, at the age of about 16, we formed a typical "beat" group
when we were, you know, the equivalent of, you know, your high
school student age, and we played in youth clubs and things for
a few dollars a night.
And Jeffrey was a non-musical person. He had a sort of artistic
flair, but wasn't really "musical", so he didn't get very far
with playing the bass, which is what he did. And he then left,
and we got somebody else, and then he went off to art school in
London.
And the rest of us went on to form Jethro Tull, and after we'd
made a couple of records Glenn Cornick, our bass player at the
time, went off to form his own group, Wild Turkey. And I had
maintained a sort of friendship with Jeffrey, who was a sort of
odd kind of a person, sort of inspirational in some sort of ways
and it amused me to write the odd song about him.
But then he joined the band for the Aqualung album and, you know,
we bought him a guitar and an amp, and presented it to him, one
Christmas I think, and said "Right Jeffrey, you've just joined
the group". (laughs)
And uh, I mean he couldn't play at all so we had to teach him
everything note for note, you know. And he had a very good
memory, Jeffrey, and he was in the band until 1975 and played,
you know, some really quite difficult stuff, all of which he
just had to memorize because he just didn't ... he didn't
understand how music worked. Umm ...
Martin: We taught him by uh ... we had a cow bell and a drumstick
taped to his foot - I don't know if you remember that occasion.
(Ian laughs) That was one way of teaching him a riff he couldn't
play. I mean, he had to play the offbeat so the drum hitting
the top of the cowbell ... clunk, clunk ... that's how he learnt
it.
Bob Coburn (host): And this is Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond?
Ian: Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond, the bass player from, uh '71 until
'75, yes.
He had a striped ... a black-and-white diagonally striped bass
guitar, black-and-white diagonally striped suit, and a black-and-
white diagonally striped double bass. And finally just before
he left he got his own black-and-white striped zebra onstage as
well, which actually defecated small black-and-white striped
fecal deposits on the stage. (all laugh)
They were actually tennis balls that were sort of striped black-
and-white as they popped out the zebra's ... bottom - excuse me
for saying "bottom", but they did - during the show, and his last
night, when he played with the band for the final show before he
left the group, uh, we substituted the innocuous tennis balls
with - The Real Thing. And Jeffrey, who had to catch them and
juggle with them, which is part of the show ... he had a nice
sort of warm, sticky ending to his career.
----------
Emmett Hoops
Actually, LeeAnn, and Louise, I am separated from my (Tull-hating)
wife as of last week. It's been a tough few months. Tell you about
it next time we meet.
Emmett
On 4 Mar 1998 12:25:10 GMT, leea...@aol.com (LeeAnn5ft) wrote:
>Emmett wrote:
>On Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:00:26 -0600, Lawrence Jenab
><lje...@sunflower.com> wrote:
>
>>always wondered if this was a reference or just something personal, like all
>the "jeffrey" references>>
>
>
>
><<I might be mistaken, but ever since the release date (I heard LITP on the
>first day of issue) I assumed Dr. Bogenbroom was a drug. "I'm going
>down...three cheers for Dr. Bogenbroom....Well you drowned me in the fountain
>of life when I hated you for living while I was dying, when we were all just
>passing through." To me, this was a (not very well crafted) reference to the
>desperation of the addict, and let's all remember how powerful a term that was
>back in the early '70s. >>
>
>Yes... that makes sense... a lot more sense than my feeble attempt at
>understanding the works of Ian Anderson.
>
><<Personally, Dr. B has always been one of my favorite Tull songs. It's one
>that I always sing along with, half unaware, since the lyrics are as much a
>part of me as my skin. (I'm a rather obsessive person...between Thick As A
>Brick and Under Wraps and LITP it's a wonder I have time to hear what
>President Nixon is up to these days!)>>
>
>Emmett>>
>
>Yes, well I can think of a dozen other things to be addicted to that are much
>more harmful than listening to too much Tull. I say
>"Give me more... more ... more more more!!!!"
>And who cares what Nixon says anyway!
>
>I love the way Dr. Bogenbroom, like Another Harry's Bar winds up in the end....
>with a strong ecceleration... to get my feet movein.. I love it.
>
>Where ya been Emmett? Was it something I said?
>
>"Three cheers for Dr. Bogenbroom!"
>LeeAnn
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:00:26 -0600, Lawrence Jenab
><lje...@sunflower.com> wrote:
>
>>always wondered if this was a reference or just something personal, like
>>all the "jeffrey" references
>
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LeeAnn5ft
<<Ask and it shall be given you! This particular Rockline program
included Ian, Martin and Dave Pegg as well. Enjoy.
Regards,
Mike Martin>>
Well, I just enjoyed that so much I had to print it out. Quite an end to the
illustrious musical career of Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond eh?
Thanks Mike,
LeeAnn
Steven Davies-Morris
LeeAnn5ft wrote in message
<19980305122...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
I think I might have that on-tape in my library. I'll check this
weekend.
if I do, and anyone wants a dub, let me know by email. If I don't have
it, I'd like to acquire it via trade...
Cheers
SDM dav...@detlanet.com
Jckalynn
>This particular Rockline program
>included Ian, Martin and Dave Pegg as well.
I remember that one. I was on hold for an hour waiting to ask a question of
the guys. I got through, and was told to wait, and they would get to me...then
the show ended. <sniff>
Jackalynn
RITCHIE110
I'd like to see that transcript...too
Charles Davison
I never tried to call RockLine, but I did get to see "the suit" and the
balls in Mobile, Al. many years ago. Wonderful concert(of course) and
amusing antics.
Irvin
Mike Martin
Jckalynn wrote:
>I remember that one. I was on hold for an hour waiting to ask a question
of
>the guys. I got through, and was told to wait, and they would get to
me...then
>the show ended. <sniff>
>Jackalynn
So, what was your question going to be? In fact, there's an
interesting topic: if we each had just one question to ask
one-on-one with Ian, what would yours be?
Regards,
Mike Martin
mma...@jump.net
ja...@the.green
On 5 Mar 1998 20:24:06 GMT, jcka...@aol.com (Jckalynn) wrote:
>I remember that one. I was on hold for an hour waiting to ask a question of
>the guys. I got through, and was told to wait, and they would get to me...then
>the show ended. <sniff>
>Jackalynn
>
What were you going to ask ?
JITG
Jckalynn
>What were you going to ask ?>
Now, Jack, you expect me to remember after all this time??
hahahha
Actually, I do recall...I was going to ask how Ian does most of his
composing..on guitar or...??
j~
LeeAnn5ft
<<So, what was your question going to be? In fact, there's an
interesting topic: if we each had just one question to ask
one-on-one with Ian, what would yours be?
>>
Actually I have two, two-part questions:
How old was he when he started to write any prose and
melodies? Was it always in his blood so to speak?
And....
Does he still get nervous before a show, if he ever did. And does he do any
deep breathing exercizes or meditation type stuff before a show, to mentally
prepare himself?
Silly questions I know,.... but hey... all the technical stuff by more informed
people than I, has already been asked, and answered. So.. I want to know the
human side of what life as a musician is like.
Wondering....
LeeAnn
low...@flash.net
On 6 Mar 1998 14:01:22 GMT, leea...@aol.com (LeeAnn5ft) wrote:
><<So, what was your question going to be? In fact, there's an
>interesting topic: if we each had just one question to ask
>one-on-one with Ian, what would yours be?
>>>
What do you eat for breakfast ?
LJ
HSIRI1
>><<So, what was your question going to be? In fact, there's an
>>interesting topic: if we each had just one question to ask
>>one-on-one with Ian, what would yours be? >>>>
Boxers or briefs?
Dee ;>
Jckalynn
>>Boxers or briefs?
..
hehehehe
beat me to it, Dee!
Ok, Codpeice or not??
:-}~~
Jackalynn
jlc
I don't really have a question for him, I'd just like to thank him and
tell him to NEVER stop.
Jim
Edward Antoniu
low...@flash.net wrote:
: What do you eat for breakfast ?
Better don't ask this one. As you know, there's a certain place where
he greets his breakfast and wonders whether he may buy it again tomorrow...
: LJ
Eddie
--
So let's just hope, let's just at least look at Yes going into the year 2000
and beyond and see where we end up. (Chris Squire)
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LeeAnn5ft
<<Actually, LeeAnn, and Louise, I am separated from my (Tull-hating) wife as of
last week. It's been a tough few months. Tell you about it next time we meet.
Emmett>>
Oh Emmett..... I am sorry. It seems I know a lot of Tull fans who are having
trouble with their spouses that don't appreciate the sound of Tull. Why is
this? I would guess this isn't the only reason, but it sure seems to aggrevate
the situation, doesn't it? I hope everything works out for the best for you...
Keep your chin up {buck up little camper!}
You have friends out here...
LeeAnn
LeeAnn5ft
>What do you eat for breakfast ?
Besides coffee?
LeeAnn5ft
>
>Boxers or briefs?
>
>Dee ;>
>
>
Thanks for the laugh Dee.... as you all know .... I love to laugh.
I have another question... heh eh...
While eating dinner, {and I do mean *dinner*}do you save the best for last....
or taste each different kind of food... playing taste games?
{am I the only one that does this?} ;-D
LeeAnn
ex: of Taste Games:
Grapes and bananas..
peanut butter on apples...
peanut butter on triskets
peanuts and pickles ;-D
chocolate cream pudding with bananas
oh sure throw in some whip cream
chocolate sauce on vanilla wafers
raisins in salad
WALNUTS and raisins in salad...
creamcheese with jalapeno jelly on crackers
pineapple in a ham sandwich..
oh...God SOMEBODY STOP ME!!!!!!!
I haven't had breakfast yet. Cups of coffee don't count.
;-D
Ok ok... I'm leaving.
BUT FIRST!!!! Dessert: lemon cookies dipped in milk. ;-`]
No I'm not pregnant.
Jckalynn
>Besides coffee?
But don't forget that he's not a morning person, either:)
Jackalynn
Ray Lomas
LeeAnn5ft wrote in message...
><<So, what was your question going to be? In fact, there's an
>interesting topic: if we each had just one question to ask
>one-on-one with Ian, what would yours be?
I'd love to ask this...but never would...for obvious reasons. He'd probably
become upset.
Ian, how is it you're the most outgoing and humorous person in the world
while performing a concert, though you're so quiet and nearly introverted
the rest of the time?
Ray
the muse
Can I answer your question Ray? When Ian is on the stage it is his job
.. he does it every day. But he just is a very emotional man ....
which means you aren't just shy .... you are painfully shy ... and when
your in love .... you are head over heals. I am the same .. at my work
I have learned to cope and be out going. And I have really come out of
my shell on this group .... but in real life I give new meaning to the
term painfully shy. It is almost like being socially dysfunctional. It
is part of why most of my relationships have failed .... because I am so
shy and insecure. So ... as does Ian, I am always trying to find other
ways to express myself ... with clothing and art. And he writes the
most intense music. It is hard to explain shyness to people who don't
have the problem. Speaking for myself, it is a chemisty thing sort of.
The only cure for that kind of shyness is maybe some type of drug or
booze or .... hey, maybe I just figured out why sooo many people in the
music business have these problems. Actually, give Ian a beer on stage
and he starts getting pretty silly .... saw that once in England. My,
I am in a talkative mood today, aren't I. Sorry .:-) pam
Pamela aka the muse
http://www.geocities.com/soho/cafe/3604/muse.htm
"occasionally going out, to look for bread and jam."
the_...@geocities.com
In article <6ds5hi$5m9$1...@newsd-124.bryant.webtv.net>,
Gee ... I was sure I hit that "mail to" button instead of the "post" button.
Well, since the whole world just read that, you might as well also know that
I color my hair. But don't ask .... :-) Pam
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JWichlacz
>Ian, how is it you're the most outgoing and humorous person in the world
>while performing a concert, though you're so quiet and nearly introverted
>the rest of the time?
>
>Ray
quiet shy and introverted the rest of the time or just when surrounded by a
small mob of strangers all demanding his attention?
If you find the right way to approach Ian he's quite friendly
JW
ja...@the.green
On Sat, 7 Mar 1998 11:01:06 -0800, pdro...@webtv.net (the muse)
wrote:
>Can I answer your question Ray? When Ian is on the stage it is his job
>.. he does it every day. But he just is a very emotional man ....
>which means you aren't just shy .... you are painfully shy ... and when
>your in love .... you are head over heals.
Wait a minute Muse.......Ian is a Leo
JITG
the_...@geocities.com
In article <3502468...@news.flash.net>,
Ah .... that he is Jack. He certainly fits the description of all the Leos
that "I" have known, most especially one of my favorite people ... my
brother. Who gets literally sick before job interviews. Very intense people
... at least the ones I have known. Perhaps you have had different
experiences? Or did I miss something? :-) Over the past several years, I
have heard Ian say in several different articles in A New Day how shy he
really was. The Cowardly Lion Syndrome perhaps? Pam
Ray Lomas
JWichlacz wrote in message...
You've probably got a point there. Having never been mobbed by a group of
strangers, it's hard to imagine.
Low profiler,
Ray
Dalton O H
I've always viewed Biggles as allegorical of God, and the "sportsmen" with
their "paperback...manual" as those who use and cheat in his name. Perhaps I'm
off beam, but I've always been able to find Biggles on Saturday (or Wednesday,
even) since the day a friend told me I could go beyond simply winding him up on
Sunday.
JTullFan68
Biggles was actually a cartoon fighter pilot on in cartoon in Britain
Dan
Simon Slavin
In article <19980308231...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
jtull...@aol.com (JTullFan68) wrote:
> Biggles was actually a cartoon fighter pilot on in cartoon in Britain
Biggles was a /book/ hero -- not a cartoon one. Captain W. E. Johns
wrote a series of books about a Flying Ace who flew during WWI and
WWII. He was a plucky chap why pulled lots of irons out of fires and
saved lots of days.
Asking "Where the hell was Biggles ?" is saying that everything went
wrong and nobody came in and fixed it all. It's like asking "Where's
Superman when you need him ?" or "Where's Captain Kirk ?".
Simon.
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Emmett Hoops
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>Tull fans are more than fanatics. They are real people, intelligent
people. Thoughtful people.>
...and your friends:)
Jackalynn
Bill Sherren
> ><<Actually, LeeAnn, and Louise, I am separated from my (Tull-hating)
wife as of
> >last week. It's been a tough few months. Tell you about it next time
we meet.
> >Oh Emmett..... I am sorry. It seems I know a lot of Tull fans who are
having
> >trouble with their spouses that don't appreciate the sound of Tull. Why
is
> >this? I would guess this isn't the only reason, but it sure seems to
aggrevate
> >the situation, doesn't it?
My ex wife hated Ian Anderson & Jethro Tull so much she left me & moved to
Australia!!
Bill
the_...@geocities.com
In article <01bd4f41$c451b6c0$677228c3@computer-b>,
Well, then .... sell all your stuff and quit your job and go on welfare and
become a groupie and follow the band around till they retire! :-) Pam
Edward Antoniu
Bill Sherren wrote:
: My ex wife hated Ian Anderson & Jethro Tull so much she left me & moved to
: Australia!!
Wow! Then, I, for one, am sure she felt compassionate for him by the
time he had to undergo surgery in Canberra when after Sydney it became obvious
he wouldn't be able to make it anymore even in wheelchair, following his
injury (and blood clot within the knee area) he got in the Lima, Peru show in
that fatidic, 1996 year.
As I side note, in my Alberta days I knew an English-Australian couple.
She was into prog, I was able to listen "Larks' Tongues in Aspic" and the live
CD of '90s Camel among others from her, but she didn't like Australia at all.
I heard she persuaded him to move with her to England, and they thusly saved
their marriage and hopefully happily lived ever after.
: Bill
Erin Go Bragh!
Eddie
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Dalton O H wrote in message
<19980308181...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
a very Tullish interpretation...
(much better than my next line)
Perhaps you know this already, but Biggles in a fictional pilot. A War hero.
Yes.
Patrick Alexander
_DEFAULT <_DEF...@prodigy.net> wrote:
: a very Tullish interpretation...
: (much better than my next line)
: Perhaps you know this already, but Biggles in a fictional pilot. A War hero.
: Yes.
For all those still interested I've found a few more references to
Biggles, specifically in Monty Python's Flying Circus. Monty Python had a
sketch called "Biggles Dictates a Letter" in which they seemed to be
making fun of the whole aviation hero bit. Biggles also makes a cameo in
at least one other sketch, a man and his wife are laying in bed and the
wife keeps on having people show up who have been having affairs with her
trying to get her to go somewhere with them, and Biggles is one of them.
I don't know exactly what Biggles is supposed to represent but Tull almost
certainly heard of him through Monty Python. In the interview on the 25th
Anniversary edition of TaaB someone (don't know who) says that TaaB was
written during the height of Monty Python's popularity and that TaaB has a
British humo(u)r very similar to that of Monty Python.
Patrick Alexander
the_...@geocities.com
In article <o662f6.ai1.ln@localhost>,
Patrick Alexander
I shall add a highlight to that, as I do recall reading
that David Palmer, who studied at the Royal Academy,
also worked in TV ... namely, with Monty Python's Flying
Circus. :-) Pam
Todd Lowenstein
Biggles is a major British character in the same way the Hardy Boys or
Nancy Drew is in America. I am sure that Ian experienced him as a
schoolboy, not by being a fan of Monty Python. Also, the Monty Python
idea really does not work in the context of the lyrics. But good guessing.
Todd
Patrick Alexander
Todd Lowenstein <todd...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
: Biggles is a major British character in the same way the Hardy Boys or
: schoolboy, not by being a fan of Monty Python. Also, the Monty Python
: idea really does not work in the context of the lyrics. But good guessing.
Ahh, he is? I have only heard of him other than in TaaB in Monty
Python, so I figured he was somewhat obscure.
Patrick Alexander
Edward Antoniu
the_...@geocities.com wrote:
: Well, Rita and I have just decided ... to name my next cat Biggles .... now,
: to find him. Oh, Biggles, where are you ....
I can see you don't include the h* word. But it's Sunday today. Did
you need him since last Saturday?
Eddie
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ant...@insl.mcgill.ca http://www.insl.mcgill.ca/~antoniu
the_...@geocities.com
In article <6f3avi$n...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>,
Todd Lowenstein <todd...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> Biggles is a major British character in the same way the Hardy Boys or
> Nancy Drew is in America. I am sure that Ian experienced him as a
> schoolboy, not by being a fan of Monty Python. Also, the Monty Python
> idea really does not work in the context of the lyrics. But good guessing.
>
>
>
Well, Rita and I have just decided ... to name my next cat Biggles .... now,
to find him. Oh, Biggles, where are you ....
-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
the_...@geocities.com
In article <6f3oii$k...@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>,
ant...@macs.ee.mcgill.ca (Edward Antoniu) wrote:
>
> the_...@geocities.com wrote:
>
> : Well, Rita and I have just decided ... to name my next cat Biggles .... now,
> : to find him. Oh, Biggles, where are you ....
>
> you need him since last Saturday?
>
Yes .... I really could have used a comic book hero after my comic book
fender bender, which was indeed last Saturday. All I got was a comic book
insurance agent instead, such being my comic book life! :-) Pam
> Eddie
>
> --
> E' bene levarsi le scarpe, a piedi nudi si `e piu liberi di sentire l'erba
> bagnata, le formiche sui polpacci, l'odore della terra nelle narici libere
> dai gas (Marco Masoni/Germinale - Dioniso inquieto/...e il suo respiro ...)
> ant...@insl.mcgill.ca http://www.insl.mcgill.ca/~antoniu
>
>
Aqualung56
> I have just decided ... to name my next cat Biggles .... now,
or how about Mr. Bigglesworth?
the_...@geocities.com
In article <199803222304...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
aqual...@aol.com (Aqualung56) wrote:
>
> > I have just decided ... to name my next cat Biggles .... now,
>
> or how about Mr. Bigglesworth?
>
Not bad. Once named a cat Paddington Wentforth Spats.
Patrick Alexander
the_...@geocities.com wrote:
: In article <199803222304...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
: aqual...@aol.com (Aqualung56) wrote:
: >
: > > I have just decided ... to name my next cat Biggles .... now,
: >
: > or how about Mr. Bigglesworth?
: >
: Not bad. Once named a cat Paddington Wentforth Spats.
I hope you actually called her something shorter, Paddington
Wentforth Spats is a bit of a mouthfull. I know someone with a dog named
Silent Moonrock, though she is neither, generally calls her Amy.
Patrick Alexander
the_...@geocities.com
In article <69r4f6.9u.ln@localhost>,
Well, actually, poor Paddington was on his last legs when I found him ... a
lonely stray (i know how to pick em) with not long to go. So I gave him a
fine name to take on to where ever cats go when they depart. :-)
Aqualung56
> hope you actually called her something shorter, Paddington
>Wentforth Spats is a bit of a mouthfull.
well; I once had a dog named "beats the hell out of me"! By the way, I got the
Mr. Bigglesworth thing from the movie "Austin Powers" it's a hoot!
Steve
Todd Lowenstein
Patrick Alexander <yaro...@sietch.sietch.bloomington.in.us> wrote:
>Todd Lowenstein <todd...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>: Biggles is a major British character in the same way the Hardy Boys or
>: Nancy Drew is in America. I am sure that Ian experienced him as a
>: schoolboy, not by being a fan of Monty Python. Also, the Monty Python
>: idea really does not work in the context of the lyrics. But good guessing.
>
>Python, so I figured he was somewhat obscure.
>
> Patrick Alexander
>
If you are not British, Biggles is pretty obscure. But looking at it the
other way, Biggles was big enough to be mentioned by Monty Python, Jethro
Tull and many others so that "foreigners" have heard of him, if not
familiar with the story line and characters.
By no means am I knowledgable about Biggles other than inquiring why he
would be included with Batman, Robin and the Boy Scouts in Thick as a
Brick. And trying to understand the Monty Python sketches, of course. But
I did see the US movie titled "Biggles" which is really not bad. It is a
science fiction, time travel story with a 1980s American being the main
character. Stylistically, think of it as Hollywood rather than British so
if you don't like nonUS movies that is not an excuse to not rent this one.
Todd
the_...@geocities.com
In article <199803232347...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
I am getting a flash back from that movie .... all of a sudden I am thinking
the name Mr.Bigglesworth was a refference to someTHING not someone.
Robert Struthers
Biggles is a creation of author W.E. Johns. The character's real name is
James Bigglesworth. He was a typical stiff-upper-lip Englishman, mistrustful
of foreigners, loyal to his friends, respectful to his superior officers,
etc. Not very PC at all, but don't let that get in the way of what is fairly
enjoyable 'boys-own adventure' stuff. Other characters in the books were his
'chums' Bertie, Ginger and Algie. One of these was his nephew, I forget
which. He had a superior, Colonel Raymond, and a German arch-enemy, whose
name escapes me but would have been an ideal part for Erich von Stroheim.
The books span from the First World War, through the Second World War and
stop around the fifties, although I recall reading a final story, written by
another author, which has Biggles flying a Hercules transport.
He is often made fun of, most notably by a Michael Palin sketch, 'Biggles
goes to see Bruce Springsteen', and by spoof book titles, e.g. 'Biggles
Flies Undone'.
I will admit to growing up on a diet of these stories, so excuse me for
getting all nostalgic and for going on a bit.
Robert Struthers.
the_...@geocities.com wrote in message <6f8cca$sj6$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
Aqualung56
>I am getting a flash back from that movie .... all of a sudden I am thinking
>the name Mr.Bigglesworth was a refference to someTHING not someone.
Mr. Bigglesworth was Dr. Evil's cat
Steve
Matt Guthrie
Robert Struthers wrote in message <6f8e99$j0m$1...@biffo.sol.co.uk>...
>Biggles is a creation of author W.E. Johns. The character's real name is
>James Bigglesworth. He was a typical stiff-upper-lip Englishman,
mistrustful
>of foreigners, loyal to his friends, respectful to his superior officers,
>etc. Not very PC at all, but don't let that get in the way of what is
fairly
>enjoyable 'boys-own adventure' stuff. Other characters in the books were
his
>'chums' Bertie, Ginger and Algie. One of these was his nephew, I forget
>which. He had a superior, Colonel Raymond, and a German arch-enemy, whose
>name escapes me but would have been an ideal part for Erich von Stroheim.
...and a very similar name. Count Erich Von Stalhein, IIRC. But hey, after
the NKVD/KGB exiled Von S.to Sakhalin, Biggles rescued him, and they all
lived happily ever after. ("Biggles buries the Hatchet")
Matt Guthrie
Bring me a wheel of oaken wood
A rein of polished leather
A Heavy Horse and a tumbling sky
Brewing heavy weather.
Henk Dolleman
On 24 Mar 1998 04:36:58 GMT, Todd Lowenstein
<todd...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Patrick Alexander <yaro...@sietch.sietch.bloomington.in.us> wrote:
>>Todd Lowenstein <todd...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>: Biggles is a major British character in the same way the Hardy Boys or
>>: Nancy Drew is in America. I am sure that Ian experienced him as a
>>: schoolboy, not by being a fan of Monty Python. Also, the Monty Python
>>: idea really does not work in the context of the lyrics. But good guessing.
>>
>> Ahh, he is? I have only heard of him other than in TaaB in Monty
>>Python, so I figured he was somewhat obscure.
>>
>> Patrick Alexander
>>
>
>If you are not British, Biggles is pretty obscure.
PMFJI, I'm not so sure about that. As far as I know all (or most of
them) Biggles titles were translated to Dutch for instance. They were
widely available in the sixties. Dunno about other languages. Biggles
is *very* British indeed.
BTW, this is my first posting to this group. I've been lurking for a
few weeks now. I like the atmosphere!
(One of the reasons to reply to this particular thread is that the
first Tull stuff I bought way back then (after getting hooked with
Aqualung - of course <g>) was the Live is a long song maxi-single. Dr.
Bogenbroom was on that single).
Henk