Incidentally, someone told me an interesting story about Doanne at a
Tull show at Montage Mountain, PA last summer. The guy supposedly went
to school with Doanne, and told me of how it was Doanne's "dream" to
play in Tull; he was a huge fan of the band. Doanne would practice all
the time and knew many Tull songs. It obviously paid off, and here he
is. So, my hats off to him. Also, I am curious about his "Thread"
project. Anyone hear any of the material? Thoughts?
Jim
"Why do we park in driveways and drive on parkways?"
>Does anyone else agree that Doanne is a really kick-ass drummer, and the
>best they've ever had?
Whilst at college the way my friend started liking Tull was the drum
solos on Living in the Past, Thick as a Brick and Bursting out, he
does not feel that Doanne puts personality into his playing and does
not like the sound - he may not like change either. Not an expert
drummer, the only bits I listen to the drums are the little moments,
fills, or bits of percussion typified by Barrie Barlow on The Third
Hurrah, or...and the mouse police never sleeps.
For me, it's a close race between him and Barriemore Barlow. On the one hand,
I like the way Barriemore comes up with all these weird fills. But Doane Perry
is more of a composing drummer. In concert, he punctuates the musical phrases
perfectly and keeps the song's momentum going, whereas Barlow's ideas
occasionally stop a song dead in its tracks.
Reinder Dijkhuis
http://www.noord.bart.nl/~samizdat/rovers.htm (news and updates on Reinder
Dijkhuis comics including De Rovers van Clwyd-Rhan and Tips for Lazy Buggers)
By the way , is there anyone who knows the answers of following questions ?
1. why they have toured with Dave Mattacks instead of Doane (A Little
Light Music Tour) ?
2. what is Doane's story with tambourines ? you know the lyrics to ' Like
A Tall Thin Girl' (Catfish Rising) : Big boy Doane, he's a drummer. Don't
play no tambourine...
Cheerio,
Serdar Aytamaner
Istanbul, Turkey
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> Does anyone else agree that Doanne is a really kick-ass drummer, and the
> best they've ever had?
> . . .
But let's not forget Clive Bunker; his drumming on Stand Up, especially,
was incredible. His playing on Bouree, For a Thousand Mothers, etc, was
inspired and brilliant. He was a lot looser and swung more than later
Tull drummers (of course the music changed and became more arranged).
Duonne's playing doesn't blow me away, conceptually, as much as the
first two drummers had, but he keeps a wide variety of songs together
very gracefully. But for me, Clive was the most passionate and Barrie
the most groundbreaking.
My 2 cents.
MH
>Does anyone else agree that Doanne is a really kick-ass drummer, and the
>best they've ever had? I have come to the conclusion that either he is a
>great player, or the drums he uses make really good beats; I'm not sure,
>but his sound is awesome. This is especially evident on the live tracks
>from "Essential Tull" on the 20th box. Also, he greatly improved the
>drumming on "Aqualung" off of "Beacon's Bottom" on the 25th box. I just
>think he has a certain energy and enthusiasm that really comes through
>in his playing.
>
>Incidentally, someone told me an interesting story about Doanne at a
>Tull show at Montage Mountain, PA last summer. The guy supposedly went
>to school with Doanne, and told me of how it was Doanne's "dream" to
>play in Tull; he was a huge fan of the band. Doanne would practice all
>the time and knew many Tull songs. It obviously paid off, and here he
>is. So, my hats off to him. Also, I am curious about his "Thread"
>project. Anyone hear any of the material? Thoughts?
>
>Jim
>
>"Why do we park in driveways and drive on parkways?"
I'm right with you Jim, Doane is "a drummer and a half"
Hi there,
From what I've heard, Doane is a very nice guy, and extremely enthusiastic
about his playing. My sisters friend plays drums and Doane was an
instructer he had for awhile . He said that Doane is phenomanal. I guess
drum instruction is something that Doane does when not busy with Tull or
Thread.
Take care,
Jackalynn
For the record, Mark Craney was not exactly chopped liver, IMO.
Mark
"Be yourself. Who else is better qualified?" - Frank J. Giblin II
So, maybe I'll invent my own categories for this one - remember that I'm
not a drummer though! :)
Truly Inspired: Barrie
Head & Shoulders Above: Doane (literally)
Heads-Down-No-Nonsense: Clive
Highly Proficient: Every other drummer who's played with them.
To be honest, I think the three named above are the only drummers
who have ever been Tull members. Drums aren't even credited on one
album and I think that most drummers other than the above three
would regard their appearances as session work, albeit somewhat
extended in some cases :)
To Doane detractors, I'd mention that Barrie played with the band
for 9 years. To date, Doane has been there 13 years with no sign
of departing yet. Okay, so Doane has to live with the legacy of the
tracks recorded before his arrival, but it also means that a hell of
a lot of current material has been written since he joined, and
therefore with his style in mind and with his input. Doane is now the
fourth longest serving member of the band ever, after Ian, Martin
and Peggy.
Personally, the only difference I'd put between Barrie and Doane
is the decade between them. Doane has the latest technology
available to him and uses it to augment his abilities. Barrie,
due not least to the lack of many 1990s comforts, had to
improvise an awful lot, and he got bloody good at it.
I don't speak with the knowledge of some here, but that's my
assessment.
Ciao, March
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Jim
Having seen 'Tull a number of times I think he pulls their sound towards
the "same as every other rock band" catagory.
A couple of years ago I managed to see them at the start of a tour in
Manchester and at the end of a tour in Sheffield (this time without
"Doanne" and with a guy they borrowed from Fairport Convention). The latter
gig can only be said to be in a different league. O.K. they were generally
tighter, but the drumming was technically better and made a major
difference.
Sorry, Matt Mat...@zetnet.co.uk
Perhaps this is a deliberate "ploy" on IA's part. It has certainly been
done by Richard Thompson. He will record an album with american
musicians, producing a sound more acceptable to an american audience but
will then get all his old mates from fairport to do the gigs.
Dave Mattacks the drummer in question in both cases even comments on
this in RT's biography.
I also think that Tull have a much more mainstream rock sound at the
moment which may be IA trying to prove he is not TOTRAR, and from what I
have seen of Doanne he would be a home in any Heavy Rock / Metal band.
DM is by far and away the better drummer, his list of sessions is enuogh
to prove that he is rated as one of the handfull of top drummers in the
world, I just think he doesn't fit in with IA's image of a rock drummer
( He is small, quiet, middle aged and has short hair).
>
> A couple of years ago I managed to see them at the start of a tour in
> Manchester and at the end of a tour in Sheffield (this time without
> "Doanne" and with a guy they borrowed from Fairport Convention). The latter
> gig can only be said to be in a different league. O.K. they were generally
> tighter, but the drumming was technically better and made a major
> difference.
>
> Sorry, Matt Mat...@zetnet.co.uk
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GIMME A BREAK! If you'd seen the Divinities show and heard a Doanne Perry
original piece (The Ballaneise Curtain--forgive the spelling) you'd NEVER
question the shear talent of the man. Being a drummer is one thing, but to my
estimation, DP fits in with the musicianship of Tull just fine, thanks.
No, if Doanne didn't fit Ian's "image" of the band, he'd most likely be out on
his ear. But let me end that train of thought, lest I fall into the trap of
making assumptions on behalf of Mr. Anderson.
Doanne Perry is technically one of the most precise drummers I've seen live,
and a heckuva performer.
So, to my thinking, YES. He really is so good.
DM is good, too, but I feel that's a poor comparison, as the styles of the two
men differ greatly. And for the record, on "A Little Light Music", for which
DM was the chosen drummer, I found the drum sound a bit...lacking in
excitement.
Andy
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> GIMME A BREAK! If you'd seen the Divinities show and heard a Doanne Perry
> original piece (The Ballaneise Curtain--forgive the spelling) you'd NEVER
> question the shear talent of the man. Being a drummer is one thing, but to my
> estimation, DP fits in with the musicianship of Tull just fine, thanks.
I was thinking the very same thing, Andrew. I didn't ever really give
Doanne much thought until the Divinities show. His mostly electronic drum
kit was way cool!
> DM is good, too, but I feel that's a poor comparison, as the styles of the two
> men differ greatly. And for the record, on "A Little Light Music", for which
> DM was the chosen drummer, I found the drum sound a bit...lacking in
> excitement.
He didn't have much to work with...his drum kit for that tour was so
small! If I remember correctly, Ian wanted minimal drumming for those
tours. Doanne's kit seems to be the size of a large room.
Alex Brands