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Cindy Knight

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Jan 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/17/00
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BB - Best Technical Drummer!


CatfishRI <catf...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Ok lets try this one
>
> Tull has have a few drummers over the years which one did you like the
best and
> why???
> I will start I enjoyed CB
> the reason : LOL best dressed
> ALL THE BEST SAM IN SAN DIEGO
>
>
> ô ô
> ż
> O OH NO! MORE TULL

CatfishRI

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Jan 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/18/00
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Grassy Sound

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I would vote Barrie Barlow as my favorite drummer. He was certainly the
most intricate of the many excellent Tull drummers, and seemed to have the
best percussive technique. Honorable mention also goes to Mark Craney, who
excelled on the 'A' album, and displayed his virtuosity even more so on the
incredible 'A' tour.

Bill


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> ¿

Arend Raifsnider

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Jan 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/18/00
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Barriemore Barlowe. I believe the drum solo on Conundrum on the Bursting Out
album explains it all.

Arend Raifsnider

CatfishRI wrote:

> Ok lets try this one
>
> Tull has have a few drummers over the years which one did you like the best and
> why???
> I will start I enjoyed CB
> the reason : LOL best dressed
> ALL THE BEST SAM IN SAN DIEGO
>
> ô ô

> ż

Derek Nuss

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Jan 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/18/00
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Barrie. Putting myself out there...the most exquisitely precise drummer
I've heard in rock.

D

On 18 Jan 2000, CatfishRI wrote:

> Ok lets try this one
>
> Tull has have a few drummers over the years which one did you like the best and
> why???
> I will start I enjoyed CB
> the reason : LOL best dressed
> ALL THE BEST SAM IN SAN DIEGO
>
>
> ô ô

> ¿


> O OH NO! MORE TULL
>


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there's just God when he's drunk"

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Derek Nuss

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Jan 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/18/00
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Not to dump on Clive B., Mark Craney, Gerry Conway, Paul Burgess or
Doane...or anyone I've missed....

ah, of course - the ubiquitious 20 Minute man, Phil C - well, I can't dump
on him - not for his *drumming* anyway ;)

D

Kram

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Jan 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/18/00
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BB was a percussion artist. A true master with a relatively short career, at
leaset too short for me.
Kram

NP: Aphex Twin

Phil

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Jan 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/18/00
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Well I think everyone is on the mark here!

Who can argue with BB for technical skill and just plain mastery of his kit!
But *IF* I had too pick I would have to say CB. Why? Because of the raw
energy and excitment that I still feel in those old recordings. Clive
REALLY gave tme a bash! I know he went though some down times and recently
is back on the stool and I for one wish him all the best and hope I hear him
again soon. I remember a little piece in AND about 3 years ago that said
something like "Beware all you pretenders Clive is back and looking for a
gig".

Going off on a tangent a bit

It seems to me that DOANE has either really changed his style or just got
better. Listen to the last 5 TULL CDs in reverse order. The percussion on
DotCom and RtB is very different and far moe complex than on say Catfish or
Crest - Hey just exactly when did Doane show up?

CatfishRI wrote in message <20000117214513...@ng-co1.aol.com>...


>Ok lets try this one
>
>Tull has have a few drummers over the years which one did you like the best
and
>why???
>I will start I enjoyed CB
>the reason : LOL best dressed
>ALL THE BEST SAM IN SAN DIEGO
>
>
>ô ô

> ż

Laufi

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Jan 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/18/00
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Hi there:

Phil schrieb:

> Who can argue with BB for technical skill and just plain mastery of his kit!
> But *IF* I had too pick I would have to say CB. Why? Because of the raw
> energy and excitment that I still feel in those old recordings. Clive REALLY
> gave tme a bash! I know he went though some down times and recently is back
> on the stool and I for one wish him all the best and hope I hear him again
> soon. I remember a little piece in AND about 3 years ago that said something
> like "Beware all you pretenders Clive is back and looking for a gig".

which he found! He played with Solstice (a GREAT band, btw) which I saw at the
UK and german conventions in 1996 and 1997. 1998 Clive released his solo album
and now he's also working with Vikkie Clayton, a fine folklady from the
'Fairport Clan'. He's doing session works as well. But let's hope (Andy Glass,
you read this ?) that Solstice will reunite with Clive soon ...

> Hey just exactly when did Doane show up?

he started on the 1984 Tull tour, played some tracks on Crest and joined Tull
definitely for the tour. He wasn't available (doing a lot of studio works, etc.)
for the 1992 ALLM tour, that's why Dave Mattacks was choosen ...
Btw, Doane was always a Tull fan and -so tells the legend ... ok, Doane himself-
got his first drum lesson by Clive Bunker! This happened backstage ...

cheers,

Laufi
--

http://www.laufi.de

wilburnn

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Jan 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/18/00
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In article <3884A613...@netcologne.de>, Laufi

<la...@netcologne.de> wrote:
> -so tells the legend ... ok,
> Doane himself-
> got his first drum lesson by Clive Bunker! This happened backstage
> ...
> cheers,
> Laufi

Perhaps you would like to visit the museum where I have captured for
posterity the clive Bunker solo.

http://www.sonic.net/%7Emssngr/museum/drumsolo.html

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Kram

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Jan 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/18/00
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Phil wrote:
<snip>

>It seems to me that DOANE has either really changed his style or just got

> better. Listen to the last 5 TULL CDs in reverse order. The percussion on
> DotCom and RtB is very different and far moe complex than on say Catfish or

> Crest - Hey just exactly when did Doane show up?

Doane showed up around 1984. Doane's playing changed dramatically (and rightly
so) for Divinities and continued on Roots to Branches. Right before Roots was
released he told me that RtB was his best work ever with Tull. I agree. Doane
is a great drummer and a very nice person (respectful to all).

Mark Craney was great on the "A" tour. Wasn't that music easy to play ;).

Is it true that Terry Bozzio was offered the Tull drumstool and turned it
down?!

Perhaps he couldn't fit Barries' big shoes?!

B'boom!
Kram

NP: Aphex Twin Selected Ambient Works Vol. II

>
>
> CatfishRI wrote in message <20000117214513...@ng-co1.aol.com>...
> >Ok lets try this one
> >
> >Tull has have a few drummers over the years which one did you like the best
> and
> >why???
> >I will start I enjoyed CB
> >the reason : LOL best dressed
> >ALL THE BEST SAM IN SAN DIEGO
> >
> >
> >ô ô

> > ¿

Ina Hacker

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Jan 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/18/00
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I say it's Doane Perry, because he's the one that wants to learn and
tries to get better and better from year to year.
Meanwhile more than 15 Years he's the Drummer of Jethro Tull.
And as another point the personality from Doane is very different to
most male persons...
You even can give him some notes in a totally different style of music
(like some Jazz stuff from Martin Barre) and he would play that in the
way as he never did anything else...
Ina Hacker
inah...@snafu.de

Take a look at the Doane Perry Page the
Drummer from Jethro Tull & Thread at:
http://www.doaneperrypage.com


>On 18 Jan 2000 02:45:13 GMT, catf...@aol.com (CatfishRI) wrote:

>Ok lets try this one
>
>Tull has have a few drummers over the years which one did you like the best and
>why???
>I will start I enjoyed CB
>the reason : LOL best dressed
>ALL THE BEST SAM IN SAN DIEGO
>
>
>ô ô

> ż

Ina Hacker

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Jan 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/18/00
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- Hey just exactly when did Doane show up?

He is with Tull since 1984....

Claire the Bear

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Jan 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/19/00
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Sam asked:

> Tull has have a few drummers over the years which one did you like the
best and
> why???

Barrie. Why? His drumming just seems to me to be more ballsy than the
others. (How's that for a technical term?) I'll give Clive a nod for the
Carnegie Hall show, but I don't think he consistently showed that kind of
ballsiness on the studio recordings. He was certainly capable of it, but
Barrie outdid him.

- CtB

Naji Chmayssani

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Jan 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/19/00
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Terry Bozzio was offered the job? Wouldn't it have been amazing? He's one of
my favourites. He would have made fireworks with Tull music.
Hmmm
As for the real drummers, my poll is:
1-Barriemore Barlow
2-Barriemore Barlow
3-Barriemore Barlow

I know this is cheating but I don't care.

How about best drummers in general? (not only Tull)
I'd go for:
1- Neil Peart (Rush)
2-Barriemore Barlow (Tull)
3-Vinnie Colaiuta (Zappa)
4-Terry Bozzio (Zappa/UK)
5-Doane Perry (Tull)
6-Phil Collins (Genesis)
7-Chester Thompson (Zappa/Genesis)
8-Bill Bruford (Yes/King Crimson/UK)
9-Stewart Copeland (Police)
10-Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater)

--
Naji Chmayssani
na...@village.uunet.be
Kram wrote in message <38849D6F...@loop.com>...


>
>
>Phil wrote:
><snip>
>
>>It seems to me that DOANE has either really changed his style or just got
>
>> better. Listen to the last 5 TULL CDs in reverse order. The percussion
on
>> DotCom and RtB is very different and far moe complex than on say Catfish
or
>> Crest - Hey just exactly when did Doane show up?
>
>Doane showed up around 1984. Doane's playing changed dramatically (and
rightly
>so) for Divinities and continued on Roots to Branches. Right before Roots
was
>released he told me that RtB was his best work ever with Tull. I agree.
Doane
>is a great drummer and a very nice person (respectful to all).
>
>Mark Craney was great on the "A" tour. Wasn't that music easy to play ;).
>
>Is it true that Terry Bozzio was offered the Tull drumstool and turned it
>down?!
>
>Perhaps he couldn't fit Barries' big shoes?!
>
>B'boom!
>Kram
>
>NP: Aphex Twin Selected Ambient Works Vol. II
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> CatfishRI wrote in message
<20000117214513...@ng-co1.aol.com>...

>> >Ok lets try this one
>> >

>> >Tull has have a few drummers over the years which one did you like the
best
>> and
>> >why???

>> >I will start I enjoyed CB
>> >the reason : LOL best dressed
>> >ALL THE BEST SAM IN SAN DIEGO
>> >
>> >
>> >ô ô

>> > ¿

jeronimo...@my-deja.com

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Jan 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/20/00
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In article <8655on$od1$1...@newnews1.news.nl.uu.net>,

"Naji Chmayssani" <na...@village.uunet.be> wrote:
> Terry Bozzio was offered the job? Wouldn't it have been amazing? He's
one of
> my favourites. He would have made fireworks with Tull music.
> Hmmm
> As for the real drummers, my poll is:
> 1-Barriemore Barlow
> 2-Barriemore Barlow
> 3-Barriemore Barlow
>
> I know this is cheating but I don't care.
>
> How about best drummers in general? (not only Tull)
> I'd go for <snip>

My top 10:

Roger Taylor (Queen)
Clive Bunker (Jethro Tull)
Ginger Baker (Cream)
Keith Moon (The Who)
Bonzo (Led Zep)
Ringo Starr (The Beatles)
Ian Paice (Deep Purple)
Brian Downey (Thin Lizzy)
Mitch Mitchell (Jimi Hendrix Eperience)
Cesar Zuiderwijk (Golden Earring)

Thinking about it, I think the era of the real great drummers is gone.
I do like the drummer of Supergrass, but I don't know his name.

Ciao,
Jeronimo :)


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Jan 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/20/00
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Oh, and Charlie Watts of course!

NP: The Rolling Stones - Hot Stuff

Joseph Alden

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In article <20000117214513...@ng-co1.aol.com>,

catf...@aol.com (CatfishRI) wrote:
> Ok lets try this one
> Tull has have a few drummers over the years which one did you like
> the best and
> why???

I know that this is a litle late in the thread, but exactly what
criteria should one use to rate percussionists? Fast hands, energy,
sweat???

Maybe one of our drumming Tullies out there can bring to light the what
attributes do make a quality drummer.

Joe

wilburnn

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In article
<Pine.OSF.4.21.000121...@student.uq.edu.au>, Derek
Nuss <s31...@student.uq.edu.au> wrote:
> some days Karen
> Carpenter (well, OK, not really...)

Did you hear how Karen died?

She forgot to eat her drum sticks!

NYUK.

w - Always Eats Everything

Derek Nuss

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Being a totally non-drummer type, for me, it's simply what "sounds
good" to me in a context of a song. Some days it's Keith Moon who
inspires me, some days Barrie, some days Mitch Mitchell, some days Karen
Carpenter (well, OK, not really...)Like any best of list, it's
hopelessly subjective and probably next to useless, but fun to do
nonetheless.

D

NP It's All Over Now, Baby Blue - Dylan


On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Joseph Alden wrote:

> In article <20000117214513...@ng-co1.aol.com>,
> catf...@aol.com (CatfishRI) wrote:
> > Ok lets try this one
> > Tull has have a few drummers over the years which one did you like
> > the best and
> > why???
>
> I know that this is a litle late in the thread, but exactly what
> criteria should one use to rate percussionists? Fast hands, energy,
> sweat???
>
> Maybe one of our drumming Tullies out there can bring to light the what
> attributes do make a quality drummer.
>
> Joe
>
>

Derek Nuss

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For your sins, I sentence you to 100 hours of non-stop "Calling Occupants
of Interplanetary Craft"...or 75 hours of "Close to You"...

D

On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, wilburnn wrote:

> > some days Karen


> > Carpenter (well, OK, not really...)
>
> Did you hear how Karen died?
>
> She forgot to eat her drum sticks!
>
> NYUK.
>
> w - Always Eats Everything
>
>

Steve Smith

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jeronimo...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > How about best drummers in general? (not only Tull)
> > I'd go for <snip>
>
> My top 10:
>
> Roger Taylor (Queen)
> Clive Bunker (Jethro Tull)
> Ginger Baker (Cream)
> Keith Moon (The Who)
> Bonzo (Led Zep)
> Ringo Starr (The Beatles)
> Ian Paice (Deep Purple)
> Brian Downey (Thin Lizzy)
> Mitch Mitchell (Jimi Hendrix Eperience)
> Cesar Zuiderwijk (Golden Earring)
> Ciao,
> Jeronimo :)

Okay, of those I've seen in concert:

1. Carl Palmer - ELP
2. Barrie Barlowe - Tull
3. Barrie Wilson - Procol Harum
4. Buddy Rich
5. Neil Peart - Rush
6. Mike Shrieve - Santana
7. Omar Hakim - Weather Report/Sting
8. Zak Starkey - Who/Ringo's All-Starrs
9. Roger Taylor - Queen
10. Kieth Moon - Who (a lesser afternoon for him).

HONORABLE MENTIONS seen in concert:

11. One of the three Gentle Giant drummers (I have no idea which one).
12. Phil Collins - Genesis
13. Terry Bozio - Missing Persons/Jeff beck
14. Bonham
15. Charlie Watts (surprising good)
16. Clive Bunker - Tull
17. Ian Paice - Deep Purple

AVERAGE or BELOW AVERAGE:

18. Ringo - (only really puts out occassionally in concert)
19. Mick Fleetwood - the Mac
20. Graeme Edge - Moodies
21. Ginger Baker - solo & w/ Jack Bruce (seems to have lost all desire
live).
22. Dennis Wilson - Beach Boys

omitting countless others,

Steve

Jeff Cook

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So late that no-one will ever see it...

Ian Paice!! Definitely the best!!! Ooops! Sorry!! Wrong news group!!!

Jeff!!!!!! (plied with alcohol!!!!)!!!!

CatfishRI <catf...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Ok lets try this one
>
> Tull has have a few drummers over the years which one did you like the
best and
> why???

> I will start I enjoyed CB
> the reason : LOL best dressed
> ALL THE BEST SAM IN SAN DIEGO
>
>
> ô ô

> ż

Derek Nuss

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Jan 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/22/00
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I'm not yet plied, but the tinnies are chilling...

couple of honorable mentions I think need to be made drummer-wise

Viv Prince - The Pretty Things
Ron Berg - Blodwyn Pig
Pierre Moerlen - Mike Oldfield, not to mention Gong
Tristan Fry - Sky and scads of other stuff
Carlton Barrett - The Wailers

Not an exhaustive list - just some candidates based on my recent CD
playing...

D

> > ¿

AdGuy998

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Jan 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/22/00
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Hey all.

For best Tull drummer, I have to go with Doane. He was simply awesome on the
Under Wraps tour.

Even though I'm a big fan of the guitar, there are two albums (very obscure
albums) where the drummer really makes the record in my opinion. The first is
called Three Pound Universe by Wes Martin ... the drummer is Matt Chamberlain.
The second is called Sleepwalking by Gerry Rafferty ... the drummer is Liam
Genocky. If you haven't heard these (has anyone?) you should try. Sleepwalking,
in particular, was VASTLY underated. It was the first where Gerry veered away
from acoustic and toward a more modern sound (now, does that sound familiar?)
with fantastic results.

Stuart

NP: Kansas -- Freaks of Nature

Kram

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Jan 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/22/00
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Well since we're going OT ((outside Tull) on this drummers list I'll
vote for:

1. Barrie Barlow (Just try playing like Barry...go on...try it!)
2. Neal Pert
3. Danny Carey (Just listen to Tool...go on...listen!)

Pssst-tink-Ba-Boom POW,
Kram

NP: Phillip Glass and Ravi Shankar, Passages

Grassy Sound

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Jan 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/22/00
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1. Phil Collins (incredibly underrated as a drummer!)
2. Bill Bruford (exudes percussive excellence)

Bill

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Edtedphred

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I vote for B'more Barlow. My favorite Tull music is from the protean age of
Tull output, which in my estimate was the Anderson, Evan, Barre,
Hammond-Hammond, Barlow era. Doane Perry does absolutely dazzling work on
Divinities, but I always love the Barlow touches--like those very
Scottish-sounding soft snare rolls on the chorus mid-way through Dark Ages.
They quietly lend verve, and at the same time adding a piquant savor of
Scottish nobility that produces a stirring effect against the lyrics depicting
civilization gone awry. I shouldn't drink when I do this, but you get the idea.

Naji Chmayssani

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OK how about WORST drummer?
i'd go for Dave Mattacks


--
Naji Chmayssani
na...@village.uunet.be
Grassy Sound wrote in message ...

wilburnn

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In article <g5ci4.4579$j63.5...@news1.rdc2.pa.home.com>, "Grassy

Sound" <grass...@home.com> wrote:
> 1. Phil Collins (incredibly underrated as a drummer!)
> 2. Bill Bruford (exudes percussive excellence)
> Bill

The only thing Bill Bruford ever exuded was rectal gas. I particularly
sight the electronic drums in Earthworks as his personal UW.

w - Hates Pretentious Drummers Who Color Coordinate Their Drum Sets and
Clothing

sdavmor

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Worst drummer? Ian Anderson's drum machine programming on "Under
Wraps".

Other than that I thought they all performed well behind the kit.
--
Steven Davies-Morris (SDM) -- A 21st Century Schizoid Man
Personal: http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/1274
Systems Theory: http://survivorsvoice.com/systemstheory/
NP: Pokeman on the tele

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> OK how about WORST drummer?
> i'd go for Dave Mattacks
>
>
> --
> Naji Chmayssani
> na...@village.uunet.be
> Grassy Sound wrote in message ...

> >1. Phil Collins (incredibly underrated as a drummer!)
> >2. Bill Bruford (exudes percussive excellence)
> >
> >Bill
> >
> >
> >

Grassy Sound

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So I guess his electronic drumming in King Crimson (assuming a musical
intellectual such as yourself has heard of this outfit) was acceptable to
you, and merely drifted to UW-status upon fronting Earthworks.

Bill


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> In article <g5ci4.4579$j63.5...@news1.rdc2.pa.home.com>, "Grassy
> Sound" <grass...@home.com> wrote:

> > 1. Phil Collins (incredibly underrated as a drummer!)
> > 2. Bill Bruford (exudes percussive excellence)
> > Bill
>

tullbear

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Krammy wrote:

>>Well since we're going OT (outside Tull) on this drummers list...<<

Then I must throw my hat in the ring for...

GENE KRUPA!!!

Hands down. Wish reincarnation worked in reverse so I could come back
as he.

- CtB

Jeff Cook

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Liam Genocky played with Gillan a few years back (1978). He's on an album
simply entitled Gillan and only released in the Asia/Pacific I believe.
Liam was a particularly hairy man despite the receding hairline. If I had a
scanner, I'd post a picture...

Jeff

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Jeff Cook

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The worst drummer in the history of the world is a guy by the name of Scott
Urquhart. I played with this bloke (in a manner of speaking) and it wasn't
a good experience. Great guy, but no matter what tempo a song started at,
it finished at "his" tempo.

Silly posting, really. No-one's ever heard of this guy and no-one ever will
(with any luck).

Jeff

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> Worst drummer? Ian Anderson's drum machine programming on "Under
> Wraps".
>
> Other than that I thought they all performed well behind the kit.
> --
> Steven Davies-Morris (SDM) -- A 21st Century Schizoid Man
> Personal: http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/1274
> Systems Theory: http://survivorsvoice.com/systemstheory/
> NP: Pokeman on the tele
>
> "Naji Chmayssani" <na...@village.uunet.be> wrote in message
> news:86c987$kg2$1...@newnews1.news.nl.uu.net...
> > OK how about WORST drummer?
> > i'd go for Dave Mattacks
> >
> >
> > --
> > Naji Chmayssani
> > na...@village.uunet.be
> > Grassy Sound wrote in message ...

> > >1. Phil Collins (incredibly underrated as a drummer!)
> > >2. Bill Bruford (exudes percussive excellence)
> > >
> > >Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >

Derek Nuss

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I too found his performance on ALLM less than inspiring...but his
career with Fairport more than makes up for it, IMHO.

D

Derek Nuss

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I quite liked Bruford on the second Pavlov's Dog LP...Collins is best
experienced in Brand X where he doesn't sing...

D


On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, wilburnn wrote:

> In article <g5ci4.4579$j63.5...@news1.rdc2.pa.home.com>, "Grassy
> Sound" <grass...@home.com> wrote:

> > 1. Phil Collins (incredibly underrated as a drummer!)
> > 2. Bill Bruford (exudes percussive excellence)
> > Bill
>

> The only thing Bill Bruford ever exuded was rectal gas. I particularly
> sight the electronic drums in Earthworks as his personal UW.
>
> w - Hates Pretentious Drummers Who Color Coordinate Their Drum Sets and
> Clothing
>
>

Derek Nuss

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Yeah, don't get that, really. He did much better on Walk into Light,
which came out first...

D


On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, sdavmor wrote:

> Worst drummer? Ian Anderson's drum machine programming on "Under
> Wraps".
>
> Other than that I thought they all performed well behind the kit.
> --
> Steven Davies-Morris (SDM) -- A 21st Century Schizoid Man
> Personal: http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/1274
> Systems Theory: http://survivorsvoice.com/systemstheory/
> NP: Pokeman on the tele
>
> "Naji Chmayssani" <na...@village.uunet.be> wrote in message
> news:86c987$kg2$1...@newnews1.news.nl.uu.net...

> > OK how about WORST drummer?
> > i'd go for Dave Mattacks
> >
> >
> > --
> > Naji Chmayssani
> > na...@village.uunet.be
> > Grassy Sound wrote in message ...

> > >1. Phil Collins (incredibly underrated as a drummer!)
> > >2. Bill Bruford (exudes percussive excellence)
> > >
> > >Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >

Derek Nuss

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Don't know if this is your musical "scene", Jeff, but Liam Genocky is now
with folkies Steeleye Span (or was, last time I looked). He took over from
the wonderful Nigel Pegrum, who is currently "lost" somewhere in our fine
land of the Southern Cross.

(Mail me if you read this, Nigel - really.)

D

NP Sittin' On The Dock Of The Bay - Otis Redding (Otis, you da man...)

Derek Nuss

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Don't get me started on drummers I have known...

Why was the drummer waiting outside the practice room ?
He couldn't work out when to come in...

D

On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, Jeff Cook wrote:

> The worst drummer in the history of the world is a guy by the name of Scott
> Urquhart. I played with this bloke (in a manner of speaking) and it wasn't
> a good experience. Great guy, but no matter what tempo a song started at,
> it finished at "his" tempo.
>
> Silly posting, really. No-one's ever heard of this guy and no-one ever will
> (with any luck).
>
> Jeff
>
> sdavmor <sda...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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sdavmor

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Nigel's not lost, and he is indeed in OZ, or at least was as of Dec
22nd 1999.

Here's the history...

In 1971 Pegrum was playing drums with the Goldring twins in British
proggers Gnidrolog (taken from a corruption of *Goldring*). On bass
was Peter Cowling. After two excellent albums of music that traversed
"Stand Up" Tull, "H2HE" VdGG, early Gentle Giant and early Wishbone
Ash -- all imbued with a Monty Python sense of the absurd -- the band
packed it in.

The Goldring brothers went on to careers in pop music and production,
Cowling went on to play bass for Pat Travers, while Pegrum went on to
play drums for Steeleye Span.

Jump forward to 1998. Colin and Stewart Goldring discover that
progressive rock is still alive and well, around the same time as they
are itching to do something uncommercial and arty again. So they
reform Gnidrolog. On bass they enlist Rick Kemp on bass (from
Steeleye Span). Off they zoom to OZ to record their new album
"Gnosis". Downunder they hook up with keys man Chris Copping (Procol
Harum) and <drum roll> Nigel Pegrum, who will handle drums and the
production duties for the CD.

Kemp and the Goldring twins are now back in the UK, preparing "Gnosis"
for release, after a stopover in San Francisco to arrange dates for
the band in the US. I don't believe Pegrum is on board for the
*world* tour in support of *Gnosis*, but Gnidrilog will most assuredly
be playing in Europe and the US in 2000.

MP3s of some *Live 72* and at least one new demo can be downloaded
from the Gnidrolog web-site: http://stewartelliott.org/gnidrolog/


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Steven Davies-Morris (SDM) -- A 21st Century Schizoid Man
Personal: http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/1274

Systems Theory: http://systemstheory.net/ [new as of today]
NP: nothing, but 45 mins ago it was MP3s of Gnidrolog "Live 72" ...
what a kwinkydink)

"Derek Nuss" <s31...@student.uq.edu.au> wrote in message
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>
> Don't know if this is your musical "scene", Jeff, but Liam Genocky
is now
> with folkies Steeleye Span (or was, last time I looked). He took
over from
> the wonderful Nigel Pegrum, who is currently "lost" somewhere in our
fine
> land of the Southern Cross.
>
> (Mail me if you read this, Nigel - really.)
>
> D
>
> NP Sittin' On The Dock Of The Bay - Otis Redding (Otis, you da
man...)
>
>
>

> On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, Jeff Cook wrote:
>

Derek Nuss

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Thanks Steve - I had forgotten this. Looking forward to the Gnosis album.
Thanks for letting me know Chris Copping is in Oz as well - he can mail me
too ;)

D

(just reposting my reply to Steven for NG purposes - didn;t rwalise it had
been posted here too...)


Witeklaw13

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In my humble opinion, I think Barrie(more) Barlow was the best ever to occupy
the drummer's chair. Just listen to the intro part to "Minstrel" (Re-mixed
from the 25th anniversary box set) Fantastic. I never could figure out why
Ian sacked 'im. Anyway, I think I saw him with Robert Plant in the mid-80's,
but "...I was really drunk at the time.
Cheers,

Witeklaw13


Naji Chmayssani

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He plays on Robert Plant's "The principle of moments" album, along with Phil
Collins. That was in 1983.
So how long were you drunk for? Sounds like we can get along very well!!!!
;--)

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