CatfishRI <catf...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Ok lets try this one
>
> Tull has have a few drummers over the years which one did you like the
best and
> why???
> I will start I enjoyed CB
> the reason : LOL best dressed
> ALL THE BEST SAM IN SAN DIEGO
>
>
> ô ô
> ż
> O OH NO! MORE TULL
Bill
CatfishRI <catf...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> ¿
Arend Raifsnider
CatfishRI wrote:
> Ok lets try this one
>
> Tull has have a few drummers over the years which one did you like the best and
> why???
> I will start I enjoyed CB
> the reason : LOL best dressed
> ALL THE BEST SAM IN SAN DIEGO
>
> ô ô
> ż
D
On 18 Jan 2000, CatfishRI wrote:
> Ok lets try this one
>
> Tull has have a few drummers over the years which one did you like the best and
> why???
> I will start I enjoyed CB
> the reason : LOL best dressed
> ALL THE BEST SAM IN SAN DIEGO
>
>
> ô ô
> ¿
> O OH NO! MORE TULL
>
----------------------------------------------------
"...don't you know there ain't no devil,
there's just God when he's drunk"
Tom Waits, "Heartattack and Vine"
ah, of course - the ubiquitious 20 Minute man, Phil C - well, I can't dump
on him - not for his *drumming* anyway ;)
D
NP: Aphex Twin
Who can argue with BB for technical skill and just plain mastery of his kit!
But *IF* I had too pick I would have to say CB. Why? Because of the raw
energy and excitment that I still feel in those old recordings. Clive
REALLY gave tme a bash! I know he went though some down times and recently
is back on the stool and I for one wish him all the best and hope I hear him
again soon. I remember a little piece in AND about 3 years ago that said
something like "Beware all you pretenders Clive is back and looking for a
gig".
Going off on a tangent a bit
It seems to me that DOANE has either really changed his style or just got
better. Listen to the last 5 TULL CDs in reverse order. The percussion on
DotCom and RtB is very different and far moe complex than on say Catfish or
Crest - Hey just exactly when did Doane show up?
CatfishRI wrote in message <20000117214513...@ng-co1.aol.com>...
>Ok lets try this one
>
>Tull has have a few drummers over the years which one did you like the best
and
>why???
>I will start I enjoyed CB
>the reason : LOL best dressed
>ALL THE BEST SAM IN SAN DIEGO
>
>
>ô ô
> ż
Phil schrieb:
> Who can argue with BB for technical skill and just plain mastery of his kit!
> But *IF* I had too pick I would have to say CB. Why? Because of the raw
> energy and excitment that I still feel in those old recordings. Clive REALLY
> gave tme a bash! I know he went though some down times and recently is back
> on the stool and I for one wish him all the best and hope I hear him again
> soon. I remember a little piece in AND about 3 years ago that said something
> like "Beware all you pretenders Clive is back and looking for a gig".
which he found! He played with Solstice (a GREAT band, btw) which I saw at the
UK and german conventions in 1996 and 1997. 1998 Clive released his solo album
and now he's also working with Vikkie Clayton, a fine folklady from the
'Fairport Clan'. He's doing session works as well. But let's hope (Andy Glass,
you read this ?) that Solstice will reunite with Clive soon ...
> Hey just exactly when did Doane show up?
he started on the 1984 Tull tour, played some tracks on Crest and joined Tull
definitely for the tour. He wasn't available (doing a lot of studio works, etc.)
for the 1992 ALLM tour, that's why Dave Mattacks was choosen ...
Btw, Doane was always a Tull fan and -so tells the legend ... ok, Doane himself-
got his first drum lesson by Clive Bunker! This happened backstage ...
cheers,
Laufi
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Phil wrote:
<snip>
>It seems to me that DOANE has either really changed his style or just got
> better. Listen to the last 5 TULL CDs in reverse order. The percussion on
> DotCom and RtB is very different and far moe complex than on say Catfish or
> Crest - Hey just exactly when did Doane show up?
Doane showed up around 1984. Doane's playing changed dramatically (and rightly
so) for Divinities and continued on Roots to Branches. Right before Roots was
released he told me that RtB was his best work ever with Tull. I agree. Doane
is a great drummer and a very nice person (respectful to all).
Mark Craney was great on the "A" tour. Wasn't that music easy to play ;).
Is it true that Terry Bozzio was offered the Tull drumstool and turned it
down?!
Perhaps he couldn't fit Barries' big shoes?!
B'boom!
Kram
NP: Aphex Twin Selected Ambient Works Vol. II
>
>
> CatfishRI wrote in message <20000117214513...@ng-co1.aol.com>...
> >Ok lets try this one
> >
> >Tull has have a few drummers over the years which one did you like the best
> and
> >why???
> >I will start I enjoyed CB
> >the reason : LOL best dressed
> >ALL THE BEST SAM IN SAN DIEGO
> >
> >
> >ô ô
> > ¿
Take a look at the Doane Perry Page the
Drummer from Jethro Tull & Thread at:
http://www.doaneperrypage.com
>On 18 Jan 2000 02:45:13 GMT, catf...@aol.com (CatfishRI) wrote:
>Ok lets try this one
>
>Tull has have a few drummers over the years which one did you like the best and
>why???
>I will start I enjoyed CB
>the reason : LOL best dressed
>ALL THE BEST SAM IN SAN DIEGO
>
>
>ô ô
> ż
He is with Tull since 1984....
> Tull has have a few drummers over the years which one did you like the
best and
> why???
Barrie. Why? His drumming just seems to me to be more ballsy than the
others. (How's that for a technical term?) I'll give Clive a nod for the
Carnegie Hall show, but I don't think he consistently showed that kind of
ballsiness on the studio recordings. He was certainly capable of it, but
Barrie outdid him.
- CtB
I know this is cheating but I don't care.
How about best drummers in general? (not only Tull)
I'd go for:
1- Neil Peart (Rush)
2-Barriemore Barlow (Tull)
3-Vinnie Colaiuta (Zappa)
4-Terry Bozzio (Zappa/UK)
5-Doane Perry (Tull)
6-Phil Collins (Genesis)
7-Chester Thompson (Zappa/Genesis)
8-Bill Bruford (Yes/King Crimson/UK)
9-Stewart Copeland (Police)
10-Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater)
--
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Kram wrote in message <38849D6F...@loop.com>...
>
>
>Phil wrote:
><snip>
>
>>It seems to me that DOANE has either really changed his style or just got
>
>> better. Listen to the last 5 TULL CDs in reverse order. The percussion
on
>> DotCom and RtB is very different and far moe complex than on say Catfish
or
>> Crest - Hey just exactly when did Doane show up?
>
>Doane showed up around 1984. Doane's playing changed dramatically (and
rightly
>so) for Divinities and continued on Roots to Branches. Right before Roots
was
>released he told me that RtB was his best work ever with Tull. I agree.
Doane
>is a great drummer and a very nice person (respectful to all).
>
>Mark Craney was great on the "A" tour. Wasn't that music easy to play ;).
>
>Is it true that Terry Bozzio was offered the Tull drumstool and turned it
>down?!
>
>Perhaps he couldn't fit Barries' big shoes?!
>
>B'boom!
>Kram
>
>NP: Aphex Twin Selected Ambient Works Vol. II
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> CatfishRI wrote in message
<20000117214513...@ng-co1.aol.com>...
>> >Ok lets try this one
>> >
>> >Tull has have a few drummers over the years which one did you like the
best
>> and
>> >why???
>> >I will start I enjoyed CB
>> >the reason : LOL best dressed
>> >ALL THE BEST SAM IN SAN DIEGO
>> >
>> >
>> >ô ô
>> > ¿
My top 10:
Roger Taylor (Queen)
Clive Bunker (Jethro Tull)
Ginger Baker (Cream)
Keith Moon (The Who)
Bonzo (Led Zep)
Ringo Starr (The Beatles)
Ian Paice (Deep Purple)
Brian Downey (Thin Lizzy)
Mitch Mitchell (Jimi Hendrix Eperience)
Cesar Zuiderwijk (Golden Earring)
Thinking about it, I think the era of the real great drummers is gone.
I do like the drummer of Supergrass, but I don't know his name.
Ciao,
Jeronimo :)
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Before you buy.
NP: The Rolling Stones - Hot Stuff
I know that this is a litle late in the thread, but exactly what
criteria should one use to rate percussionists? Fast hands, energy,
sweat???
Maybe one of our drumming Tullies out there can bring to light the what
attributes do make a quality drummer.
Joe
Did you hear how Karen died?
She forgot to eat her drum sticks!
NYUK.
w - Always Eats Everything
D
NP It's All Over Now, Baby Blue - Dylan
On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Joseph Alden wrote:
> In article <20000117214513...@ng-co1.aol.com>,
> catf...@aol.com (CatfishRI) wrote:
> > Ok lets try this one
> > Tull has have a few drummers over the years which one did you like
> > the best and
> > why???
>
> I know that this is a litle late in the thread, but exactly what
> criteria should one use to rate percussionists? Fast hands, energy,
> sweat???
>
> Maybe one of our drumming Tullies out there can bring to light the what
> attributes do make a quality drummer.
>
> Joe
>
>
D
On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, wilburnn wrote:
> In article
> <Pine.OSF.4.21.000121...@student.uq.edu.au>, Derek
> Nuss <s31...@student.uq.edu.au> wrote:
> > some days Karen
> > Carpenter (well, OK, not really...)
>
> Did you hear how Karen died?
>
> She forgot to eat her drum sticks!
>
> NYUK.
>
> w - Always Eats Everything
>
>
Okay, of those I've seen in concert:
1. Carl Palmer - ELP
2. Barrie Barlowe - Tull
3. Barrie Wilson - Procol Harum
4. Buddy Rich
5. Neil Peart - Rush
6. Mike Shrieve - Santana
7. Omar Hakim - Weather Report/Sting
8. Zak Starkey - Who/Ringo's All-Starrs
9. Roger Taylor - Queen
10. Kieth Moon - Who (a lesser afternoon for him).
HONORABLE MENTIONS seen in concert:
11. One of the three Gentle Giant drummers (I have no idea which one).
12. Phil Collins - Genesis
13. Terry Bozio - Missing Persons/Jeff beck
14. Bonham
15. Charlie Watts (surprising good)
16. Clive Bunker - Tull
17. Ian Paice - Deep Purple
AVERAGE or BELOW AVERAGE:
18. Ringo - (only really puts out occassionally in concert)
19. Mick Fleetwood - the Mac
20. Graeme Edge - Moodies
21. Ginger Baker - solo & w/ Jack Bruce (seems to have lost all desire
live).
22. Dennis Wilson - Beach Boys
omitting countless others,
Steve
Ian Paice!! Definitely the best!!! Ooops! Sorry!! Wrong news group!!!
Jeff!!!!!! (plied with alcohol!!!!)!!!!
CatfishRI <catf...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Ok lets try this one
>
> Tull has have a few drummers over the years which one did you like the
best and
> why???
> I will start I enjoyed CB
> the reason : LOL best dressed
> ALL THE BEST SAM IN SAN DIEGO
>
>
> ô ô
> ż
couple of honorable mentions I think need to be made drummer-wise
Viv Prince - The Pretty Things
Ron Berg - Blodwyn Pig
Pierre Moerlen - Mike Oldfield, not to mention Gong
Tristan Fry - Sky and scads of other stuff
Carlton Barrett - The Wailers
Not an exhaustive list - just some candidates based on my recent CD
playing...
D
> > ¿
For best Tull drummer, I have to go with Doane. He was simply awesome on the
Under Wraps tour.
Even though I'm a big fan of the guitar, there are two albums (very obscure
albums) where the drummer really makes the record in my opinion. The first is
called Three Pound Universe by Wes Martin ... the drummer is Matt Chamberlain.
The second is called Sleepwalking by Gerry Rafferty ... the drummer is Liam
Genocky. If you haven't heard these (has anyone?) you should try. Sleepwalking,
in particular, was VASTLY underated. It was the first where Gerry veered away
from acoustic and toward a more modern sound (now, does that sound familiar?)
with fantastic results.
Stuart
NP: Kansas -- Freaks of Nature
1. Barrie Barlow (Just try playing like Barry...go on...try it!)
2. Neal Pert
3. Danny Carey (Just listen to Tool...go on...listen!)
Pssst-tink-Ba-Boom POW,
Kram
NP: Phillip Glass and Ravi Shankar, Passages
Bill
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Grassy Sound wrote in message ...
The only thing Bill Bruford ever exuded was rectal gas. I particularly
sight the electronic drums in Earthworks as his personal UW.
w - Hates Pretentious Drummers Who Color Coordinate Their Drum Sets and
Clothing
Other than that I thought they all performed well behind the kit.
--
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NP: Pokeman on the tele
"Naji Chmayssani" <na...@village.uunet.be> wrote in message
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> OK how about WORST drummer?
> i'd go for Dave Mattacks
>
>
> --
> Naji Chmayssani
> na...@village.uunet.be
> Grassy Sound wrote in message ...
> >1. Phil Collins (incredibly underrated as a drummer!)
> >2. Bill Bruford (exudes percussive excellence)
> >
> >Bill
> >
> >
> >
Bill
wilburnn <poet...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <g5ci4.4579$j63.5...@news1.rdc2.pa.home.com>, "Grassy
> Sound" <grass...@home.com> wrote:
> > 1. Phil Collins (incredibly underrated as a drummer!)
> > 2. Bill Bruford (exudes percussive excellence)
> > Bill
>
>>Well since we're going OT (outside Tull) on this drummers list...<<
Then I must throw my hat in the ring for...
GENE KRUPA!!!
Hands down. Wish reincarnation worked in reverse so I could come back
as he.
- CtB
Jeff
AdGuy998 <adgu...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Silly posting, really. No-one's ever heard of this guy and no-one ever will
(with any luck).
Jeff
sdavmor <sda...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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> Worst drummer? Ian Anderson's drum machine programming on "Under
> Wraps".
>
> Other than that I thought they all performed well behind the kit.
> --
> Steven Davies-Morris (SDM) -- A 21st Century Schizoid Man
> Personal: http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/1274
> Systems Theory: http://survivorsvoice.com/systemstheory/
> NP: Pokeman on the tele
>
> "Naji Chmayssani" <na...@village.uunet.be> wrote in message
> news:86c987$kg2$1...@newnews1.news.nl.uu.net...
> > OK how about WORST drummer?
> > i'd go for Dave Mattacks
> >
> >
> > --
> > Naji Chmayssani
> > na...@village.uunet.be
> > Grassy Sound wrote in message ...
> > >1. Phil Collins (incredibly underrated as a drummer!)
> > >2. Bill Bruford (exudes percussive excellence)
> > >
> > >Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
D
D
On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, wilburnn wrote:
> In article <g5ci4.4579$j63.5...@news1.rdc2.pa.home.com>, "Grassy
> Sound" <grass...@home.com> wrote:
> > 1. Phil Collins (incredibly underrated as a drummer!)
> > 2. Bill Bruford (exudes percussive excellence)
> > Bill
>
> The only thing Bill Bruford ever exuded was rectal gas. I particularly
> sight the electronic drums in Earthworks as his personal UW.
>
> w - Hates Pretentious Drummers Who Color Coordinate Their Drum Sets and
> Clothing
>
>
D
On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, sdavmor wrote:
> Worst drummer? Ian Anderson's drum machine programming on "Under
> Wraps".
>
> Other than that I thought they all performed well behind the kit.
> --
> Steven Davies-Morris (SDM) -- A 21st Century Schizoid Man
> Personal: http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/1274
> Systems Theory: http://survivorsvoice.com/systemstheory/
> NP: Pokeman on the tele
>
> "Naji Chmayssani" <na...@village.uunet.be> wrote in message
> news:86c987$kg2$1...@newnews1.news.nl.uu.net...
> > OK how about WORST drummer?
> > i'd go for Dave Mattacks
> >
> >
> > --
> > Naji Chmayssani
> > na...@village.uunet.be
> > Grassy Sound wrote in message ...
> > >1. Phil Collins (incredibly underrated as a drummer!)
> > >2. Bill Bruford (exudes percussive excellence)
> > >
> > >Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
(Mail me if you read this, Nigel - really.)
D
NP Sittin' On The Dock Of The Bay - Otis Redding (Otis, you da man...)
Don't get me started on drummers I have known...
Why was the drummer waiting outside the practice room ?
He couldn't work out when to come in...
D
On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, Jeff Cook wrote:
> The worst drummer in the history of the world is a guy by the name of Scott
> Urquhart. I played with this bloke (in a manner of speaking) and it wasn't
> a good experience. Great guy, but no matter what tempo a song started at,
> it finished at "his" tempo.
>
> Silly posting, really. No-one's ever heard of this guy and no-one ever will
> (with any luck).
>
> Jeff
>
> sdavmor <sda...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hOli4.1635$lN4....@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
Here's the history...
In 1971 Pegrum was playing drums with the Goldring twins in British
proggers Gnidrolog (taken from a corruption of *Goldring*). On bass
was Peter Cowling. After two excellent albums of music that traversed
"Stand Up" Tull, "H2HE" VdGG, early Gentle Giant and early Wishbone
Ash -- all imbued with a Monty Python sense of the absurd -- the band
packed it in.
The Goldring brothers went on to careers in pop music and production,
Cowling went on to play bass for Pat Travers, while Pegrum went on to
play drums for Steeleye Span.
Jump forward to 1998. Colin and Stewart Goldring discover that
progressive rock is still alive and well, around the same time as they
are itching to do something uncommercial and arty again. So they
reform Gnidrolog. On bass they enlist Rick Kemp on bass (from
Steeleye Span). Off they zoom to OZ to record their new album
"Gnosis". Downunder they hook up with keys man Chris Copping (Procol
Harum) and <drum roll> Nigel Pegrum, who will handle drums and the
production duties for the CD.
Kemp and the Goldring twins are now back in the UK, preparing "Gnosis"
for release, after a stopover in San Francisco to arrange dates for
the band in the US. I don't believe Pegrum is on board for the
*world* tour in support of *Gnosis*, but Gnidrilog will most assuredly
be playing in Europe and the US in 2000.
MP3s of some *Live 72* and at least one new demo can be downloaded
from the Gnidrolog web-site: http://stewartelliott.org/gnidrolog/
--
Steven Davies-Morris (SDM) -- A 21st Century Schizoid Man
Personal: http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Island/1274
Systems Theory: http://systemstheory.net/ [new as of today]
NP: nothing, but 45 mins ago it was MP3s of Gnidrolog "Live 72" ...
what a kwinkydink)
"Derek Nuss" <s31...@student.uq.edu.au> wrote in message
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>
> Don't know if this is your musical "scene", Jeff, but Liam Genocky
is now
> with folkies Steeleye Span (or was, last time I looked). He took
over from
> the wonderful Nigel Pegrum, who is currently "lost" somewhere in our
fine
> land of the Southern Cross.
>
> (Mail me if you read this, Nigel - really.)
>
> D
>
> NP Sittin' On The Dock Of The Bay - Otis Redding (Otis, you da
man...)
>
>
>
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, Jeff Cook wrote:
>
D
(just reposting my reply to Steven for NG purposes - didn;t rwalise it had
been posted here too...)
Witeklaw13
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