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David Hawk

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Oct 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/7/99
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Does anybody know to whom this refers in Up the pool - when the politician
look around and blame the mess on Edward Bear? The only English Edward Bear
with whom I am acquainted is the stuffed animal belonging to the son of
satirist A.A. Milne - Edward Bear of Winnie-the(r)-Pooh fame. But then I am
a Yank, so what do I know? (Even more ignorant of English stuff - a
Cherokee/Penn Deutsche Yank.)

David Hawk

NP: nothing - waiting for the @#!!* baseball game to be over so I can watch
M*A*S*H

tul...@my-deja.com

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Oct 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/8/99
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In article <7tjovu$qm4$1...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>,
> its Edward Pier
> Hurrah!!!

>


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Before you buy.

jeronimo...@my-deja.com

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In article <7tjovu$qm4$1...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>,
"David Hawk" <atwi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Does anybody know to whom this refers in Up the pool - when the
politician
> look around and blame the mess on Edward Bear?

Edward Pier is the pier in Blackpool, at the north-east coast of
England. Of course the question now is: How can one blame a pier? :)

Have a look at the Annotated Lyrics Site of Jan Voorbij:
http://www.angelfire.com/wy/voorbij/tulltext.html

Cheers,
Jeronimo

Tullscapes

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Oct 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/8/99
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Edward Bear refers to Ted (Edward) Heath, leader of the Conservative Party
in the UK and Prime Minister at the time. For further information, see my
annotations on "Up the pool" (URL below).

--
Jan Voorbij

Email: jvoo...@kabelfoon.nl
Website: "Cup Of Wonder : The Annotated Jethro Tull Lyrics Page":
http://www.angelfire.com/wy/voorbij/tulltext.html

David Hawk <atwi...@worldnet.att.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
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> Does anybody know to whom this refers in Up the pool - when the politician

David Hawk

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Oct 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/8/99
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Um - two different lyrics listings say Bear. Though the song sounds like
"beer" or "pier".

David Hawk
going through m*a*s*h withdrawal
tul...@my-deja.com wrote in message <7tk13a$vv3$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>>> its Edward Pier
>> Hurrah!!!
>
>>


David Hawk

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Tullscapes wrote in message <7tk28u$fif$1...@news.kabelfoon.nl>...

>Edward Bear refers to Ted (Edward) Heath, leader of the Conservative Party
>in the UK and Prime Minister at the time. For further information, see my
>annotations on "Up the pool" (URL below).
>
Thanks, Jan. I ought to have looked there first. I see you have started
working on Dot Com already.

David Hawk

Steven Paterson

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Oct 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/8/99
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The Pool referred to is Blackpool in the North-west of England. This is
where Ian Anderson was brought up (& he has been known to criticise for its
"tackiness").

I have always thought that IA meant Edward Heath who was Conservative Prime
Minister around the time that the song was written. As with many Tull
lyrics, I am probably wrong with this thought.

The political parties hold their annual conferences in Blackpool & the
Conservatives held their conference there this week (Maggie Thatcher was a
Conservative leader in the past & attended).

Anyway, enough of the political history lessons ... I will question you
about them later !!

Regards, Steve

David Hawk <atwi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
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Steve Smith

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The only one I know had a hit 20 years ago with a pop ballad called,
"It's The Last Song I'll Ever Sing For You."

Steve


Panglos

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Oct 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/8/99
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David Hawk wrote:
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> Does anybody know to whom this refers in Up the pool

Ian wanted to pen "blame the mess on Claire the Bear", in anticipation
of her tossing her brasseire onstage, but then reconsidered. Good thing
too, or she mightn't ever have done it.

Little-known fact: The name "Aqualung" was inspired by
Ian's favourite bra colour, aquamarine.

--
NP: Fun Lovin' Criminals, "Bear Hug"

Iva Ferris

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Oct 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/8/99
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Perhaps this is another of those infamous cartoon bears Haasmic keeps
warning us about!?! <g>

Iva


LeeAnn5ft

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Panglos wrote:

<<Ian wanted to pen "blame the mess on Claire the Bear", in anticipation
of her tossing her brasseire onstage, but then reconsidered. Good thing
too, or she mightn't ever have done it.

Little-known fact: The name "Aqualung" was inspired by
Ian's favourite bra colour, aquamarine.

--
NP: Fun Lovin' Criminals, "Bear Hug"

>>

Well done Wiseguy.

Jan.. I finally. FINALLY went to your site to see your annotated lyrics page...
I see I need about a week to read it all the way through.
Very nicely done.

LeeAnn

tullbear

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Oct 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/8/99
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Panglos wrote:

> Ian wanted to pen "blame the mess on Claire the Bear"

Oh my! The only mess is the one I created for myself here! What on
earth was I thinking jumping into that San Diego thread?!? :)

Thanks, Panglos! This response had me on the floor under my desk,
laughing my ASS off!!!!!!

- CtB (still wiping away the tears of laughter...which got our daily
trade sheets all wet, thank you very much!)


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Casey

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Oct 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/8/99
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tullbear wrote:

>
> - CtB (still wiping away the tears of laughter...which got our daily
> trade sheets all wet, thank you very much!)

I'm confused(again). Who would want to trade wet sheets daily..and why?
--

-Casey


Please visit my website at:
Http://www.angelfire.com/mi/nitecap/index.html

Haasmic

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Oct 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/8/99
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I agree with Iva on this one. Edward Bear was the name of a distant cartoon
bear cousin of Yogi. Instead of roaming around Jellystone National Park, he
capered about various parts of southern New Jersey, pillaging snack foods from
unsuspecting beach-bathers at the Jersey Shore, while stealing their brassieres
out of their beach cabanas, many of them aquamarine in color, (or colour for
those folks reading this in London)(the brassieres, not the cabanas were
aquamarine by the way), for future sale to unsuspecting Tull Road Warriors,
some of whom were named Claire or "Tullbear" as she is sometimes known as, just
so they could throw them at the band at a San Diego show. This happened so
much in the early 70's that it prompted the great rock lyricist Ian Anderson to
write Up the 'Pool, where he attempts to blame the mess caused by so many
aquamarine brassieres on the San Diego stage on the notorious Edward Bear.
With the whole world now alerted to his criminal nature, Edward was forced to
flee the country and it is now believed that he is the owner/operator of a
double-barreled slingshot manufacturing enterprise somewhere in the wilds of
Manitoba. :)

jeronimo...@my-deja.com

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Oct 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/8/99
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In article <01bf1164$b2786660$061b063e@default>,

"Steven Paterson" <S.Pat...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> The political parties hold their annual conferences in Blackpool & the
> Conservatives held their conference there this week (Maggie Thatcher
was a
> Conservative leader in the past & attended).

Very off topic: I saw her on tv, defending her buddy, the ex-dictator
Pinochet, who is responsible for the killing and disappearing of
thousands of people in Chile. Under his regime thousands of people were
brutally tortured and (ex) nazi's were most welcome. Mrs Thatcher calls
this man her friend and she also thinks that it's a shame that he
(probably - let's get our fingers crossed) will have to face an
independent judge for what he did. The misdeeds of that bloody dictator
were being trifled by the 'Iron Lady'. She even made some sick jokes
about it, claiming that Tony Blair is just as bad as Pinochet, because
also in the UK people get killed on the streets. She thinks that is
exactly the same. Of course she knows better than the thousands of
families in Chile who lost their beloved ones, simply because they were
suspected of being anti government. They will never know what happened
to them, they just disappeared.

And all the Conservatives at the convention just laughed and applauded
at the words of Thatcher.

What a disgrace! What an appalling figure this so-called lady is!
Disgusting. God Save the Queen and her fascist regime. The Sex Pistols
were right. My God, it was true, after all!

David Hawk

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Oct 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/8/99
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<groan>
It has been confirmed that, just as I suspected, Edward Bear has nothing to
do with *the* Edward Bear of Milne extraction. The Edward Bear/Pier
question has been duly answered, no longer a mystery - but what sort of
fungus has infected some feverish imaginations around here is another
mystery, one not likely to be resolved anytime soon.
btw, I am updating the http://home.att.net/~atwidner/index.html David Hawk
site, which has nearly nothing to do with Jethro Tull. Although there will
eventually reside there a link to my fractal art gallery I am building (as
soon as I figure out how to put together thumbnail index pages and upload
files to xoom.com with the limited ftp upload programs I have{Front Page
Express and Ulead Systems Web Utility}); and in that gallery will be several
fractal interpretations of Tull lyric passages. Someone from the Tullring
offered to assist me with web-building problems once, and I may have to take
someone up on that offer. I might see about making the "fracTull" part of
the fractal gallery a Tullring offering.

Anyhow - glad to see people having ALL SORTs of fun with my Up the Pool
query. I have been getting lots of chuckles out of it.

David Hawk
Haasmic wrote in message <19991008155829...@ng-cq1.aol.com>...

tullbear

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Oct 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/8/99
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Haasmic wrote:

> ...for future sale to unsuspecting Tull Road Warriors, some of whom


> were named Claire or "Tullbear" as she is sometimes known as, just
> so they could throw them at the band at a San Diego show. This

> happened so much in the early 70's...

Now just hold on a cotton-pickin' minute... :)

In the early '70's, I was in no need of such apparel, since I was only
born in 1968. :)

BELIEVE ME, there are MANY times when I do wish I was born longer
ago...and hearing about early '70's Tull concerts is one of those times!

- CtB (who sadly has only been to Tull concerts...with FULL apparel
intact and in place...since 1988)

tullbear

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Casey <nite...@megsinet.net> wrote:

> I'm confused(again). Who would want to trade wet sheets daily..and
> why?

You'll have to divert all questions to my PR folks. :)

Casey, you've got me ROTFLMAO, as usual!!

- CtB

Haasmic

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Oct 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/9/99
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<<Now just hold on a cotton-pickin' minute... :)

In the early '70's, I was in no need of such apparel, since I was only
born in 1968. :)>>

Isn't it possible that you used a time machine to get back to the early 70's?
:D

JEFCINLIN

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Oct 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/9/99
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(Throwin') Up'n the Pool

I’m throwing up in the pool, at a party the night before
where I drank too many Heinies, and stumbled to the floor.
The dandy hostess said, “You look sick and pale my friend
Now go quickly,
And get outta here, so you don’t barf
on my carpet there!”

My head throbs and pounds, there’s ringing in my ears
And all the freaking while my underwear disappeared.
The woman I hit on, must think I'm a moron
Especially when I said,
“I’d kiss you, babe, if I didn’t have
this puke breath.”

I drank buckets o' beer, ate nachos and dropped crumbs while I talked too loud
about the Vikings, Flyers and Canada’s silly idea of punting on third down
I wrecked chairs, dropped condoms, ogled thighs and touched some chick’s
knockers when she turned 'round.
Doubt I’ll be asked back to this place I left in a daze

(ALL SING)
We're throwing up in the pool, at a party the night before
where we drank too many Heinies, and stumbled to the floor.
The dandy hostess said, “You look sick and pale my friends
Now go quickly,
And get outta here, so you don’t barf
on my carpet there!”

We drank buckets o' beer, ate nachos, dropped crumbs while we talked too loud
about the Vikings, Flyers and Canada’s silly idea of punting on third down
We wrecked chairs, dropped condoms, ogled thighs and touched some chick’s
knockers when she turned around.
Doubt we’ll be asked back to this place we left in a daze

Casey

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tullbear wrote:
>

> - CtB (who sadly has only been to Tull concerts...with FULL apparel
> intact and in place...since 1988)

...And BEFORE 1988????
Partial apparel? <g>

Casey

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David Hawk wrote:
>
> which has nearly nothing to do with Jethro Tull. Although there will
> eventually reside there a link to my fractal art gallery I am building (as
> soon as I figure out how to put together thumbnail index pages and upload
> files to xoom.com with the limited ftp upload programs I have{Front Page
> Express and Ulead Systems Web Utility}); and in that gallery will be several
> fractal interpretations of Tull lyric passages. Someone from the Tullring
> offered to assist me with web-building problems once, and I may have to take
> someone up on that offer. I might see about making the "fracTull" part of
> the fractal gallery a Tullring offering.


Do you know El Marco?

David Hawk

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Casey wrote in message <37FEF0...@megsinet.net>...>

>
>Do you know El Marco?
>
>--
Don't think so. Unless by another name.
Figured out the only one of my programs that can do uploads is PhotoImpact,
which can publish .jpg and .gif files to the web. I am fairly certain I
can't upload a HTML using it. Gotta see if I can get MS Front Page 98 as a
stand alone or if I have to get a suite, which I don't need. I'm used to
composing html documents on Word 97, which I use for building internal
directories for my writing and stuff. I just can't upload the darn things.
My sluggishness with learning this web stuff is beginning to frustrate me.

David Hawk
rambling again and probably about to draw fire for OT posts.

NP: crickets chirping on the front porch and cats playing with a
catnip-stuffed mouse

David Hawk

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JEFCINLIN wrote in message <19991009031317...@ng-cd1.aol.com>...

>(Throwin') Up'n the Pool
>
<<clever re-write snipped - look upthread and laugh>>

Very good!

David Hawk
wondering if JEFCINLIN plays accordion and wears geeky glasses and frazzled
hair....

Panglos

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Oct 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/9/99
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JEFCINLIN wrote:
>
> (Throwin') Up'n the Pool

Marvelous stuff. Thanks for thinking the thoughts for us.

--
NP: Garth, "I Think I'm Gonna Hurl"

Shannara

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Oct 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/9/99
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Haasmic wrote in message <19991009002156...@ng-fd1.aol.com>...
this is starting to sound like an X-Files episode....

tullbear

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Oct 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/11/99
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Haasmic wrote:

> Isn't it possible that you used a time machine to get back to the
> early 70's?
> :D

You know, you've got a point there!

Actually, time was collapsing upon itself, so I couldn't get the time
machine's engine to turn over. :)

- C.

tullbear

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Oct 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/11/99
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Casey wrote:


> ....And BEFORE 1988????
> Partial apparel? <g>

I give up. I just plain ol' give up.

UNCLE!! UNCLE!!!! :)

- CtB

Panglos

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Oct 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/13/99
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tullbear wrote:
>
> UNCLE!! UNCLE!!!! :)

Oh, we haven't even started on the Bear Birthday Suit. <g>

--
NP: Albert Collins, "Honey Hush"

Claire the Bear

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Oct 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/14/99
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Panglos wrote:

> Oh, we haven't even started on the Bear Birthday Suit. <g>

Sheesh! Between you and Casey, I'm really getting ribbed here! :-D

My birthday's in 12 days, so I'll be needing that suit...

Or, is it 29 days until I need that suit?? I can't count to save my
life today...

- CtB

--
NP: Schoolhouse Rock for a little remedial counting assistance

Alan Blakely

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Oct 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/18/99
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Are you sad that you have only been to Tull concerts with your apparel
intact and in place, or are you sad because you have only been going to
Tull concerts since 88?

Alan
NP: Indigo Girls, "Come On Now Social"

Claire the Bear

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Oct 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/18/99
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Alan asked:

>>...or are you sad because you have only been going to Tull concerts since
88?<<

Bingo. I've been enjoying the Tull Touring Good Life for only 11 years and
wish it had been longer.

- Claire (almost 31 and hoping Tull keeps going as I approach and embrace
middle age)

Jckalynn

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Oct 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/19/99
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>Claire (almost 31 and hoping Tull keeps going as I approach and embrace
middle age)>

Ah, Claire..my daughter keeps telling me that I'm already old, not middle
aged...that my niece (29) is middle aged.
Sickening isn't it?
At least she told me I was 'cool' for likeing Tull:) hehe
Never too old to Rock and Roll,
Lou


Alan Blakely

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Claire the Bear wrote:

>
> Bingo. I've been enjoying the Tull Touring Good Life for only 11 years and
> wish it had been longer.
>

> - Claire (almost 31 and hoping Tull keeps going as I approach and embrace
> middle age)

By the bye... it appears that your fame is spreading beyond the newsgroup.
This morning I saw a license plate that said CKA. They don't have the quote
quite right (good lord, I can't believe I just managed alliteration with q's!),
but I think we can pardon them since they're undoubtedly new at the game.

Alan
NP: Haydn, Symphonie in D major, Hob. I:53, "L'Imperiale"


tullbear

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Alan Blakely <awbl...@ucdavis.edu> wrote:

> By the bye... it appears that your fame is spreading beyond the
> newsgroup.
> This morning I saw a license plate that said CKA.

Thank you for this, Alan...this provided a HUGE smile at the end of my
workday!!

(Loved the q alliteration, too... Good job!) :)

- C. (who does KA)

LeeAnn5ft

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Oct 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/19/99
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Claire wrote:

<< Claire (almost 31 and hoping Tull keeps going as I approach and embrace
middle age)
>>

Now Claire, don't rush it.. you're just a teeny bopper. 50 is middle age..
since 40 is what I'll be turning soon... ick. And I'm DEFINITELY NOT middle
aged.

Think I'll just "sit down and invent some fool, some grand court jester" to do
the aging for me. While I "drive on the young side of life."

Clairol anyone?


tullbear

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Oct 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/19/99
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I wrote:

> << Claire (almost 31 and hoping Tull keeps going as I approach and
> embrace middle age)>>


Then LeeAnn wrote:

> Now Claire, don't rush it..

I'm not rushing it...that's my point! Since I believe I will not be
approaching middle-age for about 15 more years, it means I want Tull to
continue for a GOOD LONG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!

- Claire (who actually feels like a schoolgirl) :)

Panglos

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Oct 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/19/99
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LeeAnn5ft wrote:
>
> Clairol anyone?

Don't you mean Claire-ol?

--
NP: George Harrison, "The Art of Dying"

Alan Blakely

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Oct 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/20/99
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I have always associated that lyric with a short story I read as a 4th grader
or thereabouts. The story was called Anansi's Fool and was about a man
who hired someone else to feel bad for him, so that when Anansi was upset
it was his fool who cried, or when Anansi was hungry it was his fool who
went around complaining about his empty stomach. The story ends with
Anansi getting a whipping, but I can't remember what happened with the
relationship between Anansi and the other man. (It's been soooo long since
I have read this.) Anyone else remember this story?

Alan
NP: J-Tull Dot Com

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