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what is a mojo pin?

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Chantal Phanekham

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Jul 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/31/00
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erm yeah

what exactly is a mojo pin?

aussie girl

carole

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Jul 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/31/00
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according to jeff it is just a dream

according to others it's a heroin needle.

according to others still it is music

It is therefore whatever you choose it to be
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Vincent Dijkema

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Aug 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/2/00
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Jeff only said that the song was about a dream not that a mojo pin is a
dream

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carole

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Aug 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/2/00
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oops! think I read that interview third hand and that is the way it came
across...

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Vincent Dijkema

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Aug 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/3/00
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No, maybe I was wrong! I thought you were referring to Live at Sin é where
he says 'It's a song about a dream'.

Vincent


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carole

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Aug 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/3/00
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Oh well. its probably a bit of both.

I think the interview i read was with (possibly) his mum and she asked him
was he talking about heroin and he said no it is a dream . Very open to
interpretation and probably just me and my interpretation!
Which just goes to show it can be whatever you want it to be LOL %-D
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Travelogue

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Aug 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/4/00
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I think the heroin needle is the most possible, cuz in Mojo Pin he sings
something about "the white horses flow", and I have heard that "white horse"
is a drug. Can't remember if it's heroin, though. Maybe someone with more
expertise in this subject (drugs), could help out.

Travelogue

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Claus Bech-Hansen

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Aug 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/5/00
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Well in my opinion it愀 just a porn magazine (listen to the lyrics)

Mike Daniels

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Claus Bech-Hansen <mik...@forum.dk> wrote in message
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> Well in my opinion it愀 just a porn magazine (listen to the lyrics)
>
>
>
>

don't need no "reader's wives" to keep me satisfied?

doppelganger_79

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Aug 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/6/00
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> I think the heroin needle is the most possible, cuz in Mojo Pin he sings
> something about "the white horses flow", and I have heard that "white
horse"
> is a drug. Can't remember if it's heroin, though. Maybe someone with more
> expertise in this subject (drugs), could help out.

I think it is heroin, but in Twin Peaks, a white Horse was used as a symbol
re: a cocaine addict, which al;ways confused me. so...?

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toma ljuldjuraj

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Aug 15, 2000, 11:44:57 AM8/15/00
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a needle i.e. for heroin.

Clare O'Brien

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Aug 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/16/00
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A mojo pin is a heroin needle in common parlance, but that doesn't mean he
was admitting to using heroin, in his own life, now does it? It's a
metaphor, as it "white horses" - another of the water motifs which are so
frequent in his work. "White horses" are the foam-flecked tops of waves in
the sea or a lake or river when the wind gets up. U2 use the same image in
"Who's gonna ride your white horses" on Achtung Baby.....in that song a
woman is compared to the sea.....

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Soundgarfield

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Aug 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/16/00
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Wait a minute, Clare, let's be fair here... although toma thinks in this
context (as do many others) that "mojo pin" means hypodermic needle, I don't
think he was insinuating that the song was autobiographical... we all know
that writers can take on many characters that don't necessarily reflect
their own lifestyle.

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Steven Wheeler

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Aug 16, 2000, 6:12:22 PM8/16/00
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Clare O'Brien wrote:
>
> A mojo pin is a heroin needle in common parlance, but that doesn't mean he

> was admitting to using heroin, in his own life, now does it? It's a
> metaphor, as it "white horses" - another of the water motifs which are so
> frequent in his work. "White horses" are the foam-flecked tops of waves in
> the sea or a lake or river when the wind gets up. U2 use the same image in
> "Who's gonna ride your white horses" on Achtung Baby.....in that song a
> woman is compared to the sea.....

I think that's "Who's Gonna Ride Your WILD Horses" actually...!

Sha la la... :-)

See ya,

Steve.

eric

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dans l'article B7Em5.23$bG.2...@nnrp3.sbc.net, Soundgarfield à
ggar...@garfieldco.com a écrit le 17/08/00 0:00 :

Jeff used to take some heroin and soŠ???
If any one has ever seen the "europe 1 radio gig called 'lungle sessions',
there is an interview at the end. He says, that heroin doesn't define him,
iy is just a pin point of in his life"


Eric

> Wait a minute, Clare, let's be fair here... although toma thinks in this
> context (as do many others) that "mojo pin" means hypodermic needle, I don't
> think he was insinuating that the song was autobiographical... we all know
> that writers can take on many characters that don't necessarily reflect
> their own lifestyle.
>
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Clare O'Brien

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Aug 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/17/00
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Good point!!!!! [g] I wonder if it's a difference in Irish usage.... I mean
it is used in the same context as "white horses" would be.

[looks up lyric sheet]

who's gonna ride your wild horses?
who's gonna drown in your blue sea?
who's gonna taste your salt water kisses?.........etc

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Carto

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Clare O'Brien <clare...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
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> Good point!!!!! [g] I wonder if it's a difference in Irish usage.... I
mean
> it is used in the same context as "white horses" would be.

being Irish, I could probably answer your question, but I'm not too sure
what you mean. Sorry


As for Mojo Pin- I always assumed it had some drug reference- "I wouldn't
need no mojo pin to keep me satisfied" seemed to make alot of sense. And
then I read someone's intrepretation of the song, and gave examples and
stuff and that backed what I already thought up. I get a feeling that people
don't really like the idea that Jeff could write a 'drug' song, but the fact
is is that he was only human, and everyone gets mixed up in bad business
from time to time.

It's worth remembering that Gary Lucas co-wrote the song so maybe the whole
drug thing is his slant?


>
> [looks up lyric sheet]
>
> who's gonna ride your wild horses?
> who's gonna drown in your blue sea?
> who's gonna taste your salt water kisses?.........etc
>
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> Clare O'Brien
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> (Replace "nospam" with "com" to reply)
> Wester Ross, NW Scotland
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Everytime I look at your name I keep on thinking you're Irish! It's a very
Irish name :)

Steven

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Tanya Strano

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Aug 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/22/00
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For what it's worth, Gary Lucas wrote the music only for "Mojo Pin"; he
had no input in the lyrics. Here's a quote from the June 1998 issue of
Les In

Carto wrote:

[snip]

Tanya Strano

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Carto wrote:

[snip]

> It's worth remembering that Gary Lucas co-wrote the song so maybe the whole
> drug thing is his slant?

[snip again]

For what it's worth, Gary Lucas wrote the music only for "Mojo Pin"; he
had no input in the lyrics. Here's a quote from the June 1998 issue of

Les Inrockuptibles:

WHEN DID YOU COMPOSE "GRACE" and "MOJO PIN"?

GARY LUCAS: At that moment. A week before, I was in the worst of
anguishes. And suddenly I created that music. The butterfly escaped from
the cocoon...I wrote it in a state of indescribable trance. The music
flowed out of me. I finished it all in 2 days, without pain. In any
event, if you spend too much time working on a piece, it becomes too
much. You reinforce the style too much. I've always tried to write fluid
music, gripping and poignant, that even without words could create a
strong emotional dimension. If an instrumental already has a dramatic
power, imagine what can be done when you add a voice and lyrics of the
caliber of Jeff! Jeff liked my music. He wrote the top line melody and
the lyrics. I don't know if it was hard for him. He was always very
mysterious about his creative process. And he would come back with
something extremely original. It was a real collaboration, 50/50. At
first Jeff didn't want to show me the words he had written. He didn't
want to reveal himself too much. With Jared Nickerson and Tony Lewis --
the rhythm section of Gods and Monsters -- we created a guitar bass and
drums arrangement for Grace and Mojo Pin. Jeff came to hear us practice.
I encouraged him to just jump in the water, assuring him that I had
confidence in him. Then one day the musicians and I finally went into
the studio to record the instrumental tracks of the songs. Jeff arrived
at the session, and then he took a deep breath. In one hour, he worked
out extremely sophisticated lines to the songs, impossibly beautiful
harmonies, with a feeling very...oriental. The demo of Grace that was
recorded that day seemed more mysterious than the version on the album.
Jeff magnified the piece, he mixed in an unheard of range of darkness
and pure ecstasy, of dramatic intoxication and sunny joy. This is what
Captain Beefheart also knew how to do: to create beauty out of what
could seem like a nightmare.

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