Break Forth Into Joy

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Gregory Cole

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May 6, 2001, 9:15:49 PM5/6/01
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My parent's wedding had a piece by Bach entitled "Break Forth Into Joy" as a
recessional. I would like to use the music for my own wedding but I cannot
find a reference to the work anywhere. Anyone have any ideas? Help would
be greatly appreciated. Reply to group or email

Gregory Cole
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Philip van Casele

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May 6, 2001, 10:55:21 PM5/6/01
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"Break Forth Into Joy" is not written by Bach but part of some of Georg
Friedrich Händel's "Messiah"-versions. (don't know which one)

Philip

Roger Brown

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May 7, 2001, 7:40:12 AM5/7/01
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Maybe the version known as "Christmas Oratorio" ???????????

(Break forth o beauteous heavenly light etc. is the usual English
translation of this Bach piece)

(if you don't know the answer please don't guess)
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Ben Crick

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May 7, 2001, 6:53:35 AM5/7/01
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In article <9HmJ6.8169$4f7.6...@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,

"Gregory Cole" <gregor...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> My parent's wedding had a piece by Bach entitled "Break Forth Into Joy"
> as a recessional. I would like to use the music for my own wedding but
> I cannot find a reference to the work anywhere. Anyone have any ideas?
> Help would be greatly appreciated. Reply to group or email.

Try "Break forth, O beauteous heavenly light, and usher in the morning"
from JS Bach, /Christmas Oratorio/, BWV 248, No 12:

Weihnachts-Oratorium II (BWV 248)
Ź10 Sinfonia
Ź11 Rezitativ (tenor)
Und es waren Hirten in derselber Gegend auf dem Felde....
Ź12 Choral
Brich an, du schönes Morgenlicht,
Und laß den Himmel tagen!
Du Hirtenvolk, erschrecke nicht,
Weil dir die Engel sagen:
Daß diese schwache Knäbelein
Soll unser Trost und Freude sein,
Dazu den Satan zwingen
Und letztlicht Friede bringen.

Ben

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James Hamilton

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May 7, 2001, 7:40:04 PM5/7/01
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> My parent's wedding had a piece by Bach entitled "Break Forth Into Joy" as
a
> recessional. I would like to use the music for my own wedding but I
cannot
> find a reference to the work anywhere. Anyone have any ideas? Help would
> be greatly appreciated. Reply to group or email

I think its Handel's Messiah.

'Break Fofth into Joy -- Glad Tidings, Glad Tidings' but I cant find my CD
of
Handel nor can I find it on web-sites giving full text of Handel.

But still fairly sure since its not Bach Christmas Oratorio [I cant speak
German
so I just know that the opening is 'Rejoice!! Be Glad!! Up!! Praise your
days!!
as a translation of the back of a record].

James H


Ben Crick

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May 7, 2001, 6:54:04 PM5/7/01
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In article <na.a1e8644a76....@argonet.co.uk>, Ben Crick

<ben....@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Try "Break forth, O beauteous heavenly light, and usher in the morning"
> from JS Bach, /Christmas Oratorio,/ BWV 248, No 12:
[snip]

You'll find it published in Reginald Jacques and David Willcocks (eds),
/Carols for Choirs,/ Oxford University Press, 1961 and many reprints,
p 12f (preceded by the Recitative on p 10f).

Ben

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James Hamilton

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May 7, 2001, 7:59:30 PM5/7/01
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> My parent's wedding had a piece by Bach entitled "Break Forth Into Joy" as
a
> recessional. I would like to use the music for my own wedding but I
cannot
> find a reference to the work anywhere. Anyone have any ideas? Help would
> be greatly appreciated. Reply to group or email
>

I tried Google search of

"break forth into joy"+handel

and got ...

a) Yahoo ....

Albums Containing this Composition
SUITE Handel: Messiah Highlights / McGegan, Hunt, et al

Messiah, HWV 56: Break forth into joy
Composer: George Frideric Handel (1685 - 1759)
Conductor: McGegan, Nicholas Ensemble: Philharmonia Baroque Orchestra;
Berkeley Chamber Chorus


b) Dayton Bach Society Program Notes Messiah ...
www.udayton.edu/~bach-soc/prognotes/pnmess.htm

Here is a quote from theit web-site ...
"The 1742 Dublin version already had several changes from Handel's original
score from the previous summer. "But who may abide" and "Thou shalt break
them" were recitatives rather than the arias familiar to us today; "How
beautiful are the feet" was a duet followed by a chorus "Break forth into
Joy"; and "Their sound is gone out" was omitted. Subsequent performances saw
other changes, as Handel continually adapted the work to the display the
strengths (and hide the weaknesses) of the specific performers."

I have looked for text on web but it sems to leave out "Break Forth into
Joy".

Hope this helps !!

James H.


Gregory Cole

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May 7, 2001, 9:59:38 PM5/7/01
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I just wanted to thank everyone for their input. Many members of my family
have a musical background (including organ performance) but no one can
recall what this piece is. We are fairly certain that it is not from the
Messiah and we are also familiar with the Christmas Oratorio and that is not
it either. Tonight my father was able to locate a 7" reel recording of
their wedding, so hopefully in the not too distant future I may have an
audio sample to share.

Thanks again for you time and input

Gregory Cole
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Philip van Casele

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May 7, 2001, 10:26:18 PM5/7/01
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Roger Brown wrote:

> Maybe the version known as "Christmas Oratorio" ???????????
>
> (Break forth o beauteous heavenly light etc. is the usual English
> translation of this Bach piece)
>
> (if you don't know the answer please don't guess)
> --
> Roger Brown

Break forth, O beauteous heavenly light - J.S. Bach, Christmas Oratorio
Break forth into joy - G.F. Händel, Messiah (but not in every version)

(please know, if you don't, guess the answer)
:-)
Philip van Casele


Roger Brown

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May 8, 2001, 3:25:51 AM5/8/01
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Point taken - I have learnt something; I was certainly not familiar with the
duet version of "How beautiful" or this following chorus.

I am actually listening to it (pinched from Napster) as I send this.

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Roger Brown

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May 8, 2001, 3:28:12 AM5/8/01
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There is a St Martin in the Fields recording from 1976 of the chorus is
question (with the preceding duet version of "How beautiful" on Napster at
this very moment.

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Gregory Cole

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May 9, 2001, 4:57:23 PM5/9/01
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I now have an MP3 of the first 50 seconds of music from the recording at my
parent's wedding. If anyone would be willing to listen to it to help
identify the music I would greatly appreciate it. It is about a 400K file.
Email me and I'll send it to you.

Thanks again

Gregory Cole
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Roger Brown

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May 10, 2001, 9:07:02 AM5/10/01
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Well that tested me out. Once I heard Greg's mp3 I knew I had played the
damn thing as a young fellow (before I had ever learnt organ properly) but I
couldn't for he life of me remember from where. It was clearly Bach and from
Christmas Oratorio but severely butchered.

Turned out to be an old Lorenz arrangement from their "Bach made practical"
series (I'm almost ashamed to admit ever having owned such a thing) using
the above title. Greg's mp3 was a performance of the Lorenz arrangement note
for note.

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Roy McKenzie

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Jul 12, 2023, 9:14:05 AMJul 12
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Believe it or not, all these years later, folks are still looking for this piece for use as a wedding recessional. I've encountered at least 50 people who were researching the origins, having used it at their own weddings. My wife and I used it back in '88 - it was a favorite of our church choir because our organist at the time played it with such vigor and joy. Was happy we used it. Now my daughter and her fiance would like to use it for their own wedding. We had listed it as Bach in our program, but of course, couldn't find it anywhere. Turns out Roger Brown was exactly right: it was a Lorenz arrangement from their "Bach Made Practical" series. I believe the actual book title is "Bach Made Practical for Organists: Vol. 2", in which "Break Forth Into Joy" was listed in the sheet music. I have a copy of the book on the way and will confirm this is the exact piece once it arrives. Thanks Roger for putting me on the right track, even though it's not a Bach original. Thanks also to a YouTube post from Holly Simons which contains a performance of this piece. https://youtu.be/ggKs9_rEW-E Cheers!

Roy McKenzie
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