[HAM] Hamtech
Tim Stoel
well, wanting to join, and I never heard a thing.
What's the big deal, anyway?
Tim
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thefab5
Guy Sirois wrote, under the title "Refurbishing a C2" (a confusing
thread which went many directions), and included questions about
joining the *other* list:
>Hi Bill,
>
>Don't worry, it took me about three months and I think
>three E-mails before
>I suddenly received the set of "instructions" and the Quiz. And
>this was
>long after my third E-mail. Then, one month later, when I tried
>to post a
>message, I found out I still wasn't post-enabled...Fffffff!
>
>So I lurk and sometimes, if I'm lucky, my questions get answered
>when
>someone else coincidentally asks about what I needed to know.
Thanks for the "encouragement" Guy! It hasn't been three months
yet since my first email application so I'll just have to wait.
>I learn quite a lot from all of you guys here, and the ambience
>is quite
>enjoyable since "Tony" left.
I agree with you, but "Tony" has never actually been here...only
his quotations dragged by certain people into their posts here.
Most of the people he used to attack have moved on or don't care
anymore. He is still alive and well on the so-called "full"
version. I check occasionally just to see *what I'm missing* and
I can tell you that "Tony" has really mellowed. In fact, some of
his posts following 9-11 were downright patriotic and agreeable.
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Steve Roberts
all.
-steve-
Gary Allsebrook
Maybe I need a secret decoder ring or something (since owning a B3 and a C3
and having a wholesale musical instrument shop for 15 years isn't enough).
Tony
> Most of the people he used to attack have moved on or don't care anymore.
Well I certainly don't care and don't subscribe to your list so why should I
care?
Oh, I attacked? That is really interesting that you have no remarks or
criticism when *I* am/was attacked like for example when my deceased mother
was vilely flamed as on example.
Here is some shit I have had to deal with:
> Oh, you mean that nasty lady who used to hit you over >the head with the
waffle iron while she made you lick >her hindquarters? mother
I reply unpleasantly to this diarhea and I am called the attacker.
Shows you have no credibiliy or balance in your personal opinions and try to
go with little cliques that you percieve are popular in a member body or the
'in' little group who try to give people a bad name that don't fit in your
little buddy clique.
Easy to see through.
Tony
David Hagler
something to do with it.
DDH
--- Steve Roberts <St...@Roberts.org> wrote:
> I've tried a half dozen times in the past couple of weeks. No
> response at
> all.
>
> -steve-
>
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robroth1
emailing the administrator to see what was wrong and got no response.Usually
when a string like this gets going someone puts out a "here we go again"
sort of defense of Hamtech that implies anyone can get access if they
perservere. I invite them to prove it.
Rob
Magnus Enorson
> 've tried for over a year to get on Hamtech with zero response.I tried
> emailing the administrator to see what was wrong and got no
> response.Usually when a string like this gets going someone puts out
a
> "here we go again" sort of defense of Hamtech that implies anyone
can
> get access if they perservere. I invite them to prove it.
HAMTECH is a private forum, run and paid for by a private individual.
Not anyone may realise this, but running a mailing list costs lots of
money each year and somebody actually gets a bill for it. That said, the
situation on HAMTECH is, simply put, that it has LOTS of subscribers.
So many in fact that it's a close call ... I don't remember the actual
number, but it is close to the limit for a new bandwidth cost per month.
Therefore, the number of subscribers is limited just below the line where
the list server provider would start demanding a higher monthly cost.
The owner of HAMTECH is happy to keep running the list as-is, but
doesn't want to cross the line into the new price range. It's as simple as
that. And, btw, it's a rather strange attitude to be thinking "it's my right to
get in"... like I said it's a private forum, so taking it for granted would be
like taking for granted that you have the right to just barge into
someone's living room and start eating their food.
my 10 öre's worth,
/Magnus
robroth1
Rick Prevallet
Therefore, the number of subscribers is limited just below the line where
the list server provider would start demanding a higher monthly cost.
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532 subscribers presently. I think I have seen it near 580 in the recent
past.
The "tech" content is way down on that list, though access to the archives
is certainly a valuable resource. Perhaps everything has already been said?
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Gary Allsebrook
But why don't THEY say that? I have applied there 3-4 times over the past
couple of years and it's like the proverbial black hole! They are on a
public entity (the internet) and they claim to be open to a wide variety of
user's (from factory service reps to Hammond owner wannabe's) and their
reasons for exclusion are quite specific. If they are limited on bandwidth
and can't take any new subscribers -why don't they just say that. What do
we have to do -wait until somebody dies? That's absurd! Don't accept
applications if they can't - how tough is that?
After all, we musicians are a sensitive bunch and we don't rejection well!
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Steve Roberts
value. It is discouraging to be simply ignored.
-steve-
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Dennis Michael Wage
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From: "Rick Prevallet" <ri...@prevailingwinds.net>
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Sent: Monday, November 19, 01 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [HAM] Hamtech
> The "tech" content is way down on that list, though access to the archives
> is certainly a valuable resource. Perhaps everything has already been said?
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Steve Roberts
"Dennis Michael Wage" <dw...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Dan ''Spiffy'' Neuman
I dont know what SOME people would suggest ;) (big winky face) but to my
knowledge, you cannot access the archives without being on the list.
peace
dan
Brad Baker
> The "tech" content is way down on that list, though access to the
> archives is certainly a valuable resource. Perhaps everything has
> already been said?
and Dan Neuman wrote:
> I dont know what SOME people would suggest ;) (big winky face) but
> to my knowledge, you cannot access the archives without being on the
> list.
In my opinion everything was said by the time Marc Longo gave up the
first Hamtech list (zk3 list) - and those archives are available to
anyone.
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Don Erickson
> In my opinion everything was said by the time Marc Longo gave up the
> first Hamtech list (zk3 list) - and those archives are available to
> anyone.
Just click on the http://www.zeni.net/hf link at the bottom of every post
to this list and scroll to the bottom of the page. At the risk of beating
another dead horse, these ham...@zk3.dec.com archives were reconstructed
by Mark Longo and the members of hamplay after being removed from the
internet by Hamtech's current administration.
As an aside, Brad Baker was the original author/compiler of the
Hammond-Leslie FAQ currently hosted by theatreorgans.com and "Copyright
Marc Mercier and Brian Dodds". For some unknown reason Brad Baker is
not even listed as a contributor to the FAQ that he created.
Good to hear from you again, Brad.
Regards,
-Don
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Andrew Bohachewsky
>
>The "tech" content is way down on that list, though access to the archives
>is certainly a valuable resource. Perhaps everything has already been said?
I was once deemed worthy to be on the Hamtech list... at some point I
unsubscribed while I went on vacation and then couldn't get back on. I have
to say that near the end of my subscription (at least a year ago) there
wasn't much useful being posted at all.
In my opinion the archives are the ONLY worthwhile thing about Hamtech
right now... too bad the archives can't be put on a mirror site somewhere
so that they could be accessed without joining the list.
Andy
Tony
> Marc Mercier and Brian Dodds". For some unknown >reason Brad Baker is not
even listed as a contributor to >the FAQ that he created.
>
> Good to hear from you again, Brad.
Politics, ad nauseaum.
Any chance to throw throw Mercier a shot and Erickson is there. Why? Well,
for new posters, ya see, Erickson, operator of the Hamster list, was porting
the Hamtech Technical List to his zen.net server, unbeknownst to the HT
owner who caught him.
How did he do it? Well, Erickson was a subscriber of Hamtech that took his
personal list membership emailings and forwarded it to a newsgroup
enablement via his server at zeni.net and then making it public and
available without permission of the listowner having his list and friends
view the updated HT list, paid for by Mercier, without being a member and
opening it for spam.
That is why he has a *lifetime banishment* from HT.
So, the sourgrapes continue and the shots continue to Mercier and the
politics flow.
Tony
ReMark
> personal list membership emailings and forwarded it to a newsgroup
> enablement via his server at zeni.net and then making it public and
> available without permission of the listowner having his list and friends
> view the updated HT list, paid for by Mercier, without being a member and
> opening it for spam.
>
> That is why he has a *lifetime banishment* from HT.
> So, the sourgrapes continue and the shots continue to Mercier and the
> politics flow.
>
> Tony
Who cares?
Tony
Robert Hayton
> I was once deemed worthy to be on the Hamtech list... at some point I
> unsubscribed while I went on vacation and then couldn't get back on.
You're not the only one, Andrew! I accessed the subscription
page to update my status to "no mail", and then clicked on the
button below marked "Leave HamTech"-- which I =thought= would
send me back to the previous page. No warning whatsoever-- up
pops a box telling me that I've been unsubscribed!
For what it's worth (apparently not much!), I've been a member of
HamTech since the zk3 days of Mark Longo, but I haven't received
any response yet either.
good luck!
Robert Hayton
San Jose, CA
<http://www.myplanet.net/x77dude>